Blue and White Brothers is a podcast about all things Penn State football hosted by Tom and Andy Gathman: two brothers with two takes about one team. Tom Gathman, better known as “The Real Hiking Viking,” spends much of his time on trail and off grid living life to the full. Andy Gathman is the pastor of a small rural church and spends most of his time spreading the good news. We are as different as brothers can be with one exception: a passion for Penn State football. We bring our love of t ...
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Equipping Christians to think biblically about worldviews, apologetics, culture, and parenting in a challenging secular world.
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44. What Investigating Death Teaches Us About the Meaning of Life, with Detective J. Warner Wallace
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Cold-case homicide detective, popular national speaker, and best-selling author J. Warner Wallace joins me to talk about his new book, The Truth in True Crime: What Investigating Death Teaches Us About the Meaning of Life. Jim has incredibly unique and valuable insights about life from his many years working homicide cases. In this episode, he shar…
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Who Wants a Cupcake: Kent State Preview
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Tom & Andy take a look at their upcoming opponent, lowly Kent State. Can they extinguish the Golden Flashes? Plus Ten-Second takes, Mailbag, and By the Numbers with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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43. America's Disastrous Search for a More Inclusive Deity, with Erwin Lutzer
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My guest today is Dr. Erwin Lutzer. Dr. Lutzer is pastor emeritus of The Moody Church, where he served as the senior pastor for 36 years. He is an award-winning author of many books, including We Will Not Be Silenced, and the featured speaker on two radio programs heard on more than 750 outlets worldwide. In this episode, we talk about Dr. Lutzer's…
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Too Close for Comfort: Bowling Green Recap
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Tom & Andy dissect Penn State's near-catastrophe, when the Nittany Lions escaped with a close victory against a scrappy Bowling Green, and they discuss whether this was simply a fluke or an ominous sign for the rest of the season.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Orange + Brown Makes Green: Bowling Green Preview
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Tom & Andy take a look at Penn State's opponent for their home opener, the Bowling Green Falcons. Can the Nittany Lions keep the offensive fireworks going as they face the first of two straight MAC teams?By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Lightning Strikes: West Virginia Recap
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Tom & Andy recap Penn State's exciting 2024 season opener, a 34-12 victory against the West Virginia Mountaineers. Plus, hear Tom's Ten-Second-Takes on all the big opening week games.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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42. How The After Party Curriculum Is Sowing Political Confusion in the Church
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The After Party is a small group curriculum and corresponding book that's being heavily promoted this election year to individuals, churches, and Christian institutions. The marketing is designed to attract churches who would like to simply encourage charitable communication around politics, but the execution is designed to convince Christians that…
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Country Roads: West Virginia Preview
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Penn State football is back! Tom & Andy dive into the first game of the 2024 season, a tough road trip to Morgantown against the Mountaineers of West Virginia. Plus, they open the first mailbag of the season and go By the Numbers with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Special Teams Preview & Preseason Wrapup
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In their final preseason installment, Tom & Andy take a look at Penn State's special teams and give their final thoughts on the upcoming season.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Incoming Defensive Coordinator Tom Allen has big shoes to fill. With the 2024 season just days away, Tom & Andy discuss their hopes for another dominating defense and break down each unit's key contributors.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Big changes are coming to Penn State's offense, as incoming OC Andy Kotelnicki attempts to unlock the talents of Drew Allar, Nick Singleton, and Kaytron Allen. Tom & Andy take a close look at each unit on the offense including projected starters, areas of strength, and needs for improvement.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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41. Is There a Leftist Agenda Infiltrating the Church?, with Megan Basham
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Megan Basham's new book, Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda, has become the source of much discussion and controversy in the few days it's been out. In this episode, Megan and I talk about the central thesis of her book, the evidence for it, and why Christians should be concerned. She also responds to …
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As Penn State prepares to kick off a new campaign, Tom & Andy discuss the state of the program under James Franklin and take a look at the upcoming season.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Tom & Andy kick off their 5th season of Blue and White Brothers with their take on the seismic changes coming to the college football landscape this season.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Offseason Updates: Times They Are a-Changin'
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At the midpoint of the offseason, Tom & Andy weigh in on the major changes coming to college football this season. Plus, they take stock of the Nittany Lions after spring workouts wrap up and the transfer portal closes.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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40. How to Discern Truth from Culture’s Lies, with Pastor Jack Hibbs
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Deception of many different kinds is a pervasive problem in the church today. The problem with deception, of course, is that people rarely know when they're being deceived. In this episode, I talk about some of the most pressing examples of deception in the church with pastor Jack Hibbs based on his new book, Living in the Daze of Deception: How to…
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39. The Biggest Faith Challenges Facing the Next Generation, with Dr. Jeff Myers
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Culture has gone through an enormous shift in the last few years, and raising kids with a confident faith is more challenging than ever. Today I talk with Dr. Jeff Myers about the biggest faith challenges today and how parents (and grandparents!) should respond. Dr. Jeff is the president of Summit Ministries and is one of America’s most respected a…
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38. The State of Parental Rights, with Ryan Bangert of Alliance Defending Freedom
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Today I'm featuring the work of a very important organization that every Christian should know about: Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF). ADF is one of the leading Christian law firms committed to protecting religious freedom, free speech, marriage and family, parental rights, and the sanctity of life. Ryan Bangert, Senior VP at ADF, joins me to talk…
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37. The He Gets Us Campaign: Why Its Portrayal of Jesus is Still a Problem
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Super Bowl Sunday is in a few days, and He Gets Us will once again be running ads as part of their $100 million advertising campaign intended to "rescue Jesus's reputation." Last year, I wrote a viral article on 7 key problems with it. Since people will be talking about it all over again this week, I've done an updated evaluation of the campaign, i…
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36. The Pro-Life Movement, Culture Wars, and How the Church Got Soft, with Seth Gruber
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Seth Gruber is a bold and passionate pro-life speaker and the founder of The White Rose Resistance. His mission is to be a voice for unborn children and to educate and expose culture to the evil of abortion until every person has the right to be born. In today's episode, Seth and I talk about the state of the pro-life movement post-Roe, the history…
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That's a Wrap: Peach Bowl Recap & Season Finale
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In their final installment of the year, Tom & Andy look back at the college football bowl season as well as Penn State's first ever appearance in Peach Bowl. They unpack the team's lackluster performance and take a peek at what lies ahead next year, with all its uncertainties and possibilities.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Tom & Andy do a deep dive on Ole Miss, Penn State's opponent in the upcoming Peach Bowl. Plus a special bowl season By the Numbers with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Close, but No Cigar: Season in Review
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Tom & Andy take a look back at the 2023 regular season, highlighting all the highs and lows, the achievements and near misses, along with the key players and interesting statistics. Plus, a look at Tom Allen, our new DC who is set to replace the departed Manny Diaz, and a preview of the upcoming bowl slate.…
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35. Public Schools (Part 2): How to Know What's Going On in the Classroom (Plus Q&A), with Andy White
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In this part 2 on public schools (see episode 34 for part 1), my guest Andy White explains seven things Christian parents can and should be doing to know what's going on in their child's school and classroom. In the second hour, Andy answers a dozen questions from listeners. MENTIONED IN THE SHOW: Gateways https://gogateways.org/ Rise Up Christian …
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Just Peachy: OC Hire, CFP Madness, & Peach Bowl Preview
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Tom & Andy recap a momentous week of news for Penn State and the college football world. They unpack the hire of Andy Kotelnicki as Penn State's new Offensive Coordinator, review the championship week games, rant about the playoff seeding, and discuss Penn State's Peach Bowl bid vs. Ole Miss.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Regular Season Wrap & Championship Week Preview
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Tom & Andy dig into the mailbag and respond to listener questions about the gap between PSU and the rest of the Big 10, how we should feel about the team compared to other 2-loss teams, and what podcasts they'll be listing to during the offseason. Plus, a modified by the numbers and a preview of championship week games.…
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Offensive Explosion: Michigan State Recap
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Tom & Andy discuss the final game of the regular season, a 42-0 drubbing of the Michigan State Spartans, and wonder where that version of the offense has been all season?!?! Plus they recap all the exiting rivalry week action.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Thanksgiving Leftovers: Michigan State Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy look forward to post-Thanksgiving football, previewing Penn State's final opponent, the sputtering Spartans of Michigan State. Will they finish strong for another 10-win season and possible New Year's Six bowl? They also open the Mailbag and go By the Numbers for the last time in the regular season.…
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Tom & Andy dissect the 27-6 win against Rutgers, which saw backup QB Beau Pribula replace an injured Drew Allar early in the third quarter. And heading into the Thanksgiving holiday, the boys conclude with some thoughts about what they are grateful for with this Penn State football program.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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34. Public Schools: What Christian Parents Need to Know, with Andy White
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This is the third part of my series on educational choices for Christian families. In today's episode, I interview Andy White, a Christian who has been a public high school principal for the last 19 years. Our purpose is NOT to tell every Christian parent to leave public schools; we know that every family has different considerations and opportunit…
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Tom & Andy open up the mailbag to talk more about Penn State's future in the wake of the Michigan loss and Mike Yurcich's firing. Then they talk about how to avoid a letdown against a feisty Rutgers team. Plus, "By the Numbers" with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Groundhog Day, Again: Michigan Recap
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Tom & Andy are tired of watching Penn State act out the same script as review the deflating loss to Michigan. But first, they dissect the unprecedented firing of OC Mike Yurcich in the wake of the loss.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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I Saw the Signs: Michigan Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy peel back the layers to the upcoming Michigan game, including the latest on the sign-stealing drama and analysis of the on-field challenges that Penn State will face. Plus, they take a look in the mailbag and go By the Numbers.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Tom & Andy take a moment to enjoy the blowout win against Maryland. Plus an extended tangent during "News and Notes" has them talking about fan appreciation in solidarity with Tyler from Spartanburg.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Terrapin Trepidation: Maryland Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy are still shaking off that Indiana game and wondering what kind of team will show up to face a dangerous Maryland team. Will it be a get-right game or another letdown? Plus, a couple of interesting mailbag entries, and another By the Numbers with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Tom & Andy find themselves at full froth after a poor showing by Penn State, who narrowly escaped with a win against the upset-minded Indiana Hoosiers.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Palate Cleanser: Indiana Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy try to get the bad test of the Ohio State loss out of their mouths by looking ahead to Penn State's game against Indiana. First, they find that misery loves company as they go into the mailbag and talk through some questions and comments from their fellow fans in the wake of PSU's first loss of the season. They finish with another "By th…
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Same Old Song and Dance: Ohio State Recap
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Tom & Andy find themselves at full froth as they commiserate over Penn State's first loss of the season, after a dismal offensive outing in Columbus led to a 20-12 defeat.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Bring on the Buckeyes: Ohio State Look-Ahead
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It's Ohio State week! The biggest game of the season (so far) is upon us, and Tom & Andy get all hyped up to break it all down. Plus, Mailbag and By the Numbers.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Tom & Andy enjoy the facts and figures coming out of the big homecoming shutout win vs. UMass, and try and parse what it might mean for bigger games to come. Plus Tom's "Ten Minute Takes" (and a few tangents) on the Top-25 scoreboard.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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33. How to Have Better Conversations with Nonbelievers, with Greg Koukl
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Many Christians are finding that it's getting harder and harder to engage in faith conversations with nonbelievers. With culture becoming increasingly hostile to Christian beliefs (particularly on morality), it's natural to want to just slink away...but that's not what we're called to do. The good news is, it can be easier than you think to have fr…
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Just a Minute, Man: UMass Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy take a look at Penn State's next opponent, the Minutemen of Massachusetts. Plus, the open the mailbag and finish with another edition of By the Numbers.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Opportunity Knocking: Bye Week Breakdown
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Tom & Andy use Penn State's bye week as an opportunity to look back at the season so far, take stock of their strengths, parse their areas for growth, and consider the challenges and opportunities on the rest of the schedule.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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In most cases, a four-touchdown victory should feel great. So why is Penn State's 41-13 drubbing of Northwestern leaving Tom & Andy unsettled and unsatisfied? Plus, News and Notes and some football viewing recommendations for Penn State's upcoming bye week.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Wildcat Trap: Northwestern Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy take a closer look at Penn State's third-straight Big Ten West opponent. After losing their head coach to an ugly hazing scandal before the season, the Northwestern Wildcats seem to have found their rhythm. Can Penn State avoid the trap of overlooking a team out to prove themselves? Plus, the boys open the mailbag and are joined by Joel …
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32. Living Counter Culturally Can Make Your Kids Resent Christianity
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We're raising kids in an increasingly challenging world--which means we have to be intentional in raising them in a counter cultural way. But if we’re not careful in how we do it, it can lead to our kids’ resentment of Christianity over time. In today's short episode, I talk about four ways that can happen and how to avoid it. MENTIONED IN THE SHOW…
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Tom & Andy revel in Penn State's impressive shutout win over the 24th-ranked Iowa Hawkeyes, breaking down the incredible performance and impressive stat lines.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Like Father, Like Son: Illinois Recap & Iowa Look-Ahead
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With Tom away, Andy invites a special guest-host to help him break down the Illinois win and take a look at their next opponent, Big Ten West defensive powerhouse Iowa. Plus, News and Notes, Mailbag, and a return of "Rick's Picks."By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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Big Ten Opener: Illinois Look-Ahead
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Tom & Andy take a look at Illinois, their first Big Ten opponent of the still-young 2023 season. Will Penn State keep the good-times rolling or will the Illini stop them in their tracks? Plus, a special teams edition of "By the Numbers" with Joel Bettner.By Penn State Football by Tom & Andy Gathman
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31. When You Have Trouble Believing the Bible, with J. Warner Wallace
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Even Christians struggle with believing what the Bible says sometimes. We want to believe it's God's Word, but there can be doubts that nag at us. Can miracles really happen? If they can, why should we believe some of the stranger miracles in the Bible like a talking donkey? Why would God leave enough uncertainty around what the Bible says that peo…
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