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Interviews with founders, startup-advising CISOs, venture capitalists, and analysts discussing the issues of cybersecurity, new threats, and emerging technology. The Genealogy of Cyber Security brings listeners into forward-thinking conversations with industry visionaries, to explore big ideas, and discuss out-innovating the competition.
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My Top 5

Fleur Shomo, Luke Shomo

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From the everyday to the bizarre, everyone has a top five! Join Fleur and her co-hosts as they argue their cases and exchange preferences, stories and laughs with guests who bring a unique topic to the table.
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Founder spotlight interview with Varun Badhwar. Varun is the current CEO of EndorLabs, a three-time Innovation Sandbox finalist, and known for founding cloud security posture management startup RedLock, which became Palo Alto Networks PRISMA Cloud. Varun tells stories about evangelizing the new ways of cloud posture management with RedLock’s Cloud …
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CEO and Founder of Enterprise Browser startup Island, Mike Fey, talks about entrepreneurship, innovation, and the future of web browsing. Paul explores Mike's experiences working with venture capitalists like CyberStarts and Sequoia, and startup-advising CISOs, getting early customer feedback during the ideation, seed, and early growth stages. Mike…
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Innovation Sandbox finalist and Relyance AI Founder Abhi Sharma discuss privacy and compliance in a world where every company is a software company, and DevOps code produces so many data flows with your private and regulated data. Abhi points out a privacy solution must govern DevOps, “privacy is in the code.” Abhi discusses NLP, LLMs, OpenAI, and …
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Innovation Sandbox finalist, Cryptographer, and Zama VP Benoit Chevallier-Mames discuss Zama’s efforts to bring fully homomorphic encryption (FHE) into commercial use. How FHE would allow application developers and customers to benefit from the insights obtained by sharing data with AI providers, like OpenAI or ChatGPT, but without exposing private…
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Innovation Sandbox finalist and Astrix Security Founder Idan Gour discuss the rising attack surface created by API-to-API connections and non-human identities. How no-code orchestration tools, low code tools, and generative AI, like ChatGPT, are causing non-technical business users to build integration apps that access and sometimes share sensitive…
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Innovation Sandbox finalist and Valence Security Founder Yoni Shohet discuss the new SaaS-to-Saas attack surface produced by the proliferation of shadow integrations between SaaS apps. Today users are typically SaaS admins and often okay SaaS App requests to access other apps like their Calendar, Email, or SalesForce. Yoni explains how automation t…
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Innovation Sandbox finalist and Endor Labs Founder Varun Badhwar discuss the magnitude of open-source vulnerabilities, highlighting the developers behind vulnerabilities like CoreJS and Log4shell, and why strategic pieces of the internet depend on libraries that sometimes rest on a single part-time open-source developer, even developers with prison…
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Concentric AI Founder Karthik Krishnan discusses the new Data Security Posture Management market and answers the age-old questions of what data you have, where is it, and who’s accessing it. Karthik discusses advances in AI, natural language processing (NLP), Open AI ChatGPT, Large Language Models (LLMs), and what it all means to data classificatio…
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Chief Trust Officer Autodesk and recent CISO of Nutanix Sebastian Goodwin discusses advising startup, Concentric AI, in the new data security posture management (DSPM) space, and the importance of locating your data as a prerequisite for security. Sebastian and Paul discuss the recent maturity of natural language processing (NLP), and how ChatGPT a…
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Join the podcast as we dive into a fascinating conversation with Britta Glade, the Vice President of Content and Curation at RSA Conference. Discover the world of "people's trends" as Britta sheds light on her team's meticulous analysis of 2,400 speaker submissions from influential practitioners in the industry. Get an insider's perspective on RSA'…
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Paul Shomo’s 7th annual coverage of the RSAC’s startup competition, Innovation Sandbox, is out in DarkReading. In this episode, Paul recaps the show, tells you things you didn’t know about the finalists, some private thoughts from the judges, and highlights a very interesting trend in 2023: automation, ML and software-building tools are creating da…
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Interview with Innovation Sandbox 2nd place winner, Pangea. Pangea CEO Oliver Friedrichs, a former Founder of orchestration phenom Phantom, discusses the state of AppSec and what is wrong with the shift-left movement. Pangea discusses how shifting-left-of-left can bypass both arguments between SecDevOps and app developers, and false positives in co…
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Hidden Layer Founder Chris Sestito of RSAC Innovation Sandbox winner Hidden Layer, discusses AI adversarial attacks on ML systems, the ease of stealing intellectual property with ML, Chris Sestito’s history at Cylance building next-gen ML systems, and a historic 2019 attack on Cylance using adversarial ML. Hidden Layer brings us up to speed on this…
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Island CEO Mike Fey discusses unmanaged devices and the enterprise browser as the cloud’s successor to Data Loss Prevention (DLP). Paul and Mike discuss how Island’s browser is disrupting the Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI), and the Cloud Access Security Broker (CASB) industries. Paul and Mike debate whether these new browsers can create a sec…
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Ashland CISO Bob Schuetter on brainstorming secure enterprise browsers in their startup's incubation period. Bob discusses building the cloud’s secure edge, and how new web browsers like Island’s (@island_io) will disrupt Data Loss Prevention (DLP), and the Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) industries. Bob and Paul explore exactly why DLP failed…
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StrikeReady’s Chief Product Officer, Anurag Gurtu, discusses AI virtual assistants, the younger generation’s AI optimism, the problems of incident response, and the automation possibilities of artificial intelligence. Anurag and Paul explore how virtual assistants will disrupt cybersecurity, orchestration, SIEM, SOAR, and managed services. Building…
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The Genealogy of Innovation is a new kind of cybersecurity podcast, focusing on interviewing the people involved in emerging tech. Here we’ll interview top entrepreneurs, startup-advising CISOs, and analysts. Our topic? What’s wrong with cybersecurity. Security is an arms race full of hype. But when you focus on the inception point of innovation, y…
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Big changes at My Top 5, but before our season break for the summer, we’re going to be reminiscing with co-host Luke’s Top 5 Best Guests, Top 5 Topics Chosen & Top 5 Dream Guests. Join us as we say goodbye to Luke after 3 years of podcasting… but perhaps not forever? Ps. Keep an eye out for bonus episodes throughout the summer, and our return in th…
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Condiments for days, versatile herbs, important beverages and consuming bananas… harmonica style? This time we’re eating our way through our Top 5 Essential Fridge Items with Paul Marc Rousseau. PMar is lead guitarist/backing vocals for the band Silverstein. Around since 2000, they currently have 10 albums! Right now they are on tour with Beartooth…
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FaceTiming in public, TV spoilers, bad driving and technology that never works. This episode we’re crossing over with Bacon is My Podcast & bringing a two-episode event of non-stop complaining; it’s our Top 5 Pet Peeves! You can find the first half of this episode here: Crossover Part 1 Bacon is my Podcast is Mike & Jimmy! Musicians from Long Islan…
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East coast giants, city storytellers, underground artists & pure poetry. On this episode we’re locking down (if only temporarily) our Top 5 Rappers with Sonny Sandoval! Sonny is the frontman for P.O.D. A band since 1992, they took over the charts and the world, most notably with their 2001 album Satellites. Their most current album is 2018’s Circle…
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Food problems, sleeping in, superb pop music, the magic of sofas and running back to your exes? This time we’re judging each other’s Top 5 Guilty Pleasures with Alex Pearson. Alex is guitarist and backing vocals for Hands Like Houses. A band since 2008, they are signed to UNFD, have four studio albums, and their latest EP “Hands like Houses” was re…
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Bridging gaps between genres, CD players on the bus, entire discography’s, deep dives & hometown inspirations. We’re listening through our Top 5 Most Influential Albums with Neil Westfall! Neil is guitarist for ADTR. A band since 2003, they have 7 albums, most recently You’re Welcome in 2021. You can see ADTR at When We We’re Young Fest, in Vegas i…
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Beyoncé writing for Bon Jovi, Meatloaf explosions, lyrics that don’t make sense & ridiculously long music videos. This time with we’re with Collin Rigsby (aka Vesperteen) choosing our Top 5 Ballads & debating if the amazing genre still exists.Vesperteen is Collin Rigsby. Making music since 2015 he has released multiple EP’s and singles - most recen…
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Irish-themed pubs, speakeasies, New York gems & places that leave lasting impressions… just don’t ask us their names. This time we’re chugging our way through our Top 5 Bars (in the world!) with Jeremy DePoyster! Jeremy is guitarist & back up vocalist for The Devil Wears Prada. A band since 2005, their latest EP “ZII” was released in 2021 as a foll…
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Movie soundtracks, family traditions, depressing hits and Justin Timberlake’s iconic noodle hair. ‘Tis the season to be jolly & share Top 5 Christmas Songs with all 4 Shomos! Find our Christmas playlist on both Spotify & Apple Music! This is our only episode for December - enjoy the holidays & have a very Merry Christmas & a happy new year! We’ll s…
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TRIGGER WARNING: In this episode we discuss some heinous actions by horrifying people. Please don’t listen if it will affect you in any way. Communities coming together, FBI profiling, genealogy websites and some pretty dark moments. Strap in as we discuss our Top 5 Most Horrifying Serial Killers with Joel Birch. Joel is lead singer for The Amity A…
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Perfection of pizza, guac costing extra, the magic of potatoes & what exactly are jellied eels? This week we’re drooling over our Top 5 Food Genres with Seth Blake & guest co-host Caleb Shomo. Seth is lead guitarist for the band Wage War. A band since 2010, they have 4 albums, most recently this year’s Manic. You can catch them on their European to…
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Surviving isolation, foreign language films, speedy zombies and debating which is worse - pure gore or physiological terror. This episode we’re embracing spooky season for our Top 5 Horror Movies with Mark Pellegrino (& guest co-host Caleb Shomo.) Mark Pellegrino is an American actor who has starred in movies such as The Big Lebowski & Mulholland D…
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Sportsmen, royalty, comedians, legendary actors and just who the hell is cooking? It’s time to gather round the table for our Top 5 Dinner Guests with Ryan Locke. Ryan is the frontman for the band Seaway. A band since 2011, they have 4 albums, most recently 2020’s Big Vibes. Make sure to check out their website & Instagram for upcoming tours & musi…
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Puppies, friendships, food, food, food & the importance of live music. Today we’re thanking the world for our Top 5 Things That Make Life Awesome with Luke Bentham. Luke is the lead singer & guitarist for the band The Dirty Nil. A band since 2006 they have 3 albums, most recently Fuck Art. Find out where you can see them on their two upcoming tours…
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Dance tunes, pure pop, huge anthems, and some absolute classics. This episode we’re with the great Julie Benz breaking a sweat with our Top 5 Workout Songs. Julie Benz is an actress, starring in huge TV shows such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dexter, Defiance & Hawaii 5-0. You have also seen her in movies such as Rambo, Saw 5, Jawbreaker & most rec…
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A strange friendship, breaking into dreams, hieroglyphics and taking the red pill. This time we’re discovering our Top 5 Sci-Fi Movies with Si Delaney & guest co-host Caleb Shomo! Si is lead guitarist for British band Don Broco. A band since 2008, they have toured the world & headlined Wembley Arena. They have 3 albums, with their 4th Amazing Thing…
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Childhood superstitions, legendary dunks, the dominance of Michael Jordan and Fleur changing all the rules completely. This episode we’re with Garrett Russell deep diving into our Top 5 NBA Teams. Garrett is the frontman for band Silent Planet. A band since 2009, they have 3 albums - the last one When the End Began released in 2018. They are about …
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