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The Pool Envy Podcast is where real, licensed pool professionals speak up. In an industry overflowing with DIY chatter and surface-level advice, we dive deep into code, compliance, and craftsmanship that set licensed contractors apart. Our goal is to educate and elevate the industry — teaching safety, sharing knowledge, and helping those who build and service pools do it the right way.
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DIALED IN

The Iowa Department of Inspections, Appeals, and Licensing

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Welcome to DIALED IN, the podcast from the Iowa Department of Inspections, Appeals, and Licensing. DIAL's podcast will answer some of the basic (and not-so-basic) questions surrounding the work the department undertakes, from nursing home surveys, fraud investigations, and administrative hearings to licensing for food establishments, physicians, electricians, and more. Join us and get DIALED IN today!
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The Debaters is the hit show where comedians go toe-to-toe in a battle of laughs and logic. Hosted by award-winning funnyman Steve Patterson, the program is a combustible combination of sharply crafted comedic rants and hilarious ad libs. The engaging format is part stand-up, part quiz show and part comedy competition, with the live audience picking the winners.
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Clause 8

Eli Mazour

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The podcast listened to by sophisticated in-house counsel, judges from around the world, IP policymakers, senior USPTO officials, and top patent dealmakers and attorneys to stay ahead of the curve by understanding the personalities and forces shaping IP. Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insights about how to best deal with various pate ...
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Cash sounds simple. Skipping permits sounds faster. This episode explains how those shortcuts turn into fines, forced tear-outs, insurance headaches, and expensive fixes—sometimes years later, right when you try to sell. Cash jobs and “no-permit needed” promises are everywhere. They sound like a shortcut. But they often turn into the most expensive…
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At the 2025 Via Licensing Alliance Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Brian Dorini, Senior Director at Dolby, and Tyrome Brown, Dolby’s Chief Patent Counsel, offered a clear-eyed look at the state of patent pools and the shifting realities of the global SEP ecosystem. Far from being outdated structures, both emphasized that pools remain essential tool…
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Recent changes at USPTO are increasingly shaping the context in which Congress considers potential patent legislation. In the latest episode of Clause 8, the focus turns to how the USPTO’s evolving approach to post-grant proceedings at the PTAB is shaping the broader patent policy debate—and influencing what Congress may (or may not) do next. The e…
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In this short episode, Jason records from a Florida beach and explains why a simple 15-minute paid consultation can make a huge difference before your pool project goes sideways. If you’re worried about scams, half-finished jobs, or a “licensed” contractor who suddenly goes quiet, a focused consult lets you: Run a line from your contract past a lic…
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Corey Salsberg, one of the leading voices on intellectual property policy in the United States, joins Clause 8 to discuss surviving the anti-pharma activism of the last administration, why he’s encouraged by the current administration’s approach to patent policy, and even the scientific possibility of “resurrecting the woolly mammoth.” As Global He…
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Certified vs Licensed: They Said They Were Licensed… But They Lied – They Were Only Certified In this episode, Jason pulls apart one of the pool industry’s favorite magic tricks: calling a certification a “license” and hoping homeowners don’t know the difference. We walk through what a true state license is, what a certification actually means, and…
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Your Unlicensed Pool Contractor Secretly Hates You – The Fast Track to a Lawsuit In this episode of The Pool Envy Podcast, Jason digs into what really happens when you trust “the pool guy” who isn’t actually licensed—and why that decision can quietly put you on the fast track to a lawsuit. This isn’t just contractor drama. It’s about: How unlicense…
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At the Via Licensing Alliance’s Bridge Summit 2025 in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who ushered in the modern age of patent pools: Garrard Beeney, founder of Sullivan & Cromwell’s IP practice, and John Sideris, Principal Licensing Counsel at Philips. Their conversation traces the evolution of patent pools — from …
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Most pools look fine… until something happens and the insurance company shows up. Then suddenly the “perfect” backyard becomes a liability map. In this episode, Jason breaks down a real-world scenario he sees over and over again: beautiful pools that hide dangerous code violations, old components, missing bonding, gas-line mistakes, bad drain cover…
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Florida Pool Contractor Deposits: Don’t Pay & Pray Summary: Too many Florida pool projects stall after a big deposit. This episode gives homeowners (and honest builders) a clear, statute-anchored playbook: the 30-day permit / 90-day start clocks, how to verify a real DBPR CPC license, the red flags before you pay, and exactly how to file complaints…
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In this episode of Clause 8, Deputy Commissioner for Patents Jerry Lorengo joins host Eli Mazour to share valuable, practical insights for patent professionals navigating the USPTO’s new Performance Appraisal Plan (PAP). Jerry discusses what’s changed in the latest update — including the revised streamlined review process, new production expectatio…
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This week had range. Jason tracks down a diesel return-line drip on the plaster truck, spends time sharpening the website and comms, lands the most fun project of the year, and explains why November in Wisconsin is the perfect window to hydroblast and set a project up for a fast spring start. We keep it big picture, not DIY—how we diagnose, how we …
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Title: Pool Heater Gas Sizing: Heat Without Headaches Summary: Your heater doesn’t run on vibes—it runs on pressure and volume. In this episode we define what “good” looks like under IFGC §402 / NFPA 54 so owners and builders can communicate clearly and avoid the lockout blame game. No DIY here—this is the big picture, outcomes, and documentation y…
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When I first heard about Lisa Ascolese, known as “The Inventress,” I knew I wanted to bring her story to Clause 8. Lisa’s path into inventing began after her family moved to Brooklyn, New York, where her creativity and curiosity found room to grow. She started inventing at a young age, driven by the simple desire to solve everyday problems. That cu…
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Standards & references cited NEC 680.26 intent & scope: equipotential bonding to reduce voltage gradients; overview of (B)(1)–(7). ECM Web NEC 680.26(B)(2) perimeter surfaces: 3 ft zone; 12×12 in copper grid option; four points around conductive shells; note on nonconductive shells. Electrical License Renewal+1 NEC 680.26(C) pool water bonding: ≥ 9…
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Why do so many pool projects melt down? It isn’t “too much regulation”—it’s too little planning. Jason breaks down the fast-“yes” incentives, missing scopes, and communication gaps that push owners, builders, and inspectors into conflict. You’ll hear a clear case study (gas meter/regulator sizing), the homeowner’s 7 questions, and the builder’s 7 c…
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We’ve got a stone cold debate on whether curling should be Canada’s national sport. Then, who dishes out a better Thanksgiving, Canadians or Americans? Featuring: John Cullen, Elvira Kurt, Clifton Cremo, and Nathan Macintosh. Fill out our listener survey here. We appreciate your input!
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Tight closets and “creative” vents don’t make comfort—they make risk. In this episode, Jason breaks down the air-in / air-out / room-pressure triad and the simple clues he looks for on real walk-ins: white powder (zinc oxide) on vents, melted plastics, rust trails, and fried igniters. We stay owner-safe and brand-neutral: what to ask, what to photo…
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This trailer sets the tone for Pool Envy®—the show where licensed expertise meets real-world practice. Expect: Code clarity: ISPSC, VGB, NEC 680—decoded into do-this-not-that steps Compliance in the field: inspections, plan review, permitting, barrier & entrapment safety Subtle nuances the industry misses: hydraulics/turnover, AHJ interpretations, …
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Tech transfer has long been a critical but often overlooked part of the intellectual property system. For decades, the Bayh-Dole Act has guided how federally funded research moves from university labs into the marketplace. The system has generated hundreds of thousands of inventions and startups — and, as Laura Peter notes, led to nearly $2 trillio…
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In To Invent Is Divine: Creativity and Ownership, Jim makes the case that creativity and ownership are inseparable—and that weakening intellectual property rights threatens the flourishing that invention enables. He draws connections between faith, history, and policy to explore why protecting intellectual property is about more than law or economi…
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From Coke Morgan Stewart’s decisive actions at the USPTO, to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s unexpected “patent tax” trial balloon, to the ongoing Federal Circuit drama — it felt impossible to figure out where to start telling the story. The only way to make sense of it all was to bring in three of our favorite journalists who cover these issue…
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We’re not in the business of chasing headlines—we’re in the business of getting it right. In this episode, we fact-check recent reporting regarding certain audit findings, clear up what CMS data actually says, and explain why some reports aren’t ours to release. Then we shift gears to celebrate the two long-term care facilities recently honored wit…
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Think OSHA only shows up when something goes wrong? Think again! In this episode, we’re talking about Iowa OSHA’s free and confidential consultation services that help employers spot and fix safety issues before anyone gets hurt—and without any citations or fines. We’ll also discuss two programs for employers: SHARP, designed to recognize small bus…
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