The Pool Envy Podcast is where real, licensed pool professionals speak up. In an industry overflowing with DIY chatter and surface-level advice, we dive deep into code, compliance, and craftsmanship that set licensed contractors apart. Our goal is to educate and elevate the industry — teaching safety, sharing knowledge, and helping those who build and service pools do it the right way.
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Welcome to DIALED IN, the podcast from the Iowa Department of Inspections, Appeals, and Licensing. DIAL's podcast will answer some of the basic (and not-so-basic) questions surrounding the work the department undertakes, from nursing home surveys, fraud investigations, and administrative hearings to licensing for food establishments, physicians, electricians, and more. Join us and get DIALED IN today!
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The Debaters is the hit show where comedians go toe-to-toe in a battle of laughs and logic. Hosted by award-winning funnyman Steve Patterson, the program is a combustible combination of sharply crafted comedic rants and hilarious ad libs. The engaging format is part stand-up, part quiz show and part comedy competition, with the live audience picking the winners.
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The podcast listened to by sophisticated in-house counsel, judges from around the world, IP policymakers, senior USPTO officials, and top patent dealmakers and attorneys to stay ahead of the curve by understanding the personalities and forces shaping IP. Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insights about how to best deal with various pate ...
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Cash sounds simple. Skipping permits sounds faster. This episode explains how those shortcuts turn into fines, forced tear-outs, insurance headaches, and expensive fixes—sometimes years later, right when you try to sell. Cash jobs and “no-permit needed” promises are everywhere. They sound like a shortcut. But they often turn into the most expensive…
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Dolby’s Chief Patent Counsel & Head of Audio Patents on Building Valuable Patent Portfolios in Uncertain Times
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17:16At the 2025 Via Licensing Alliance Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Brian Dorini, Senior Director at Dolby, and Tyrome Brown, Dolby’s Chief Patent Counsel, offered a clear-eyed look at the state of patent pools and the shifting realities of the global SEP ecosystem. Far from being outdated structures, both emphasized that pools remain essential tool…
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Are children smarter than their parents? Does nothing beat a talent show?
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34:46It’s a battle of the brains when we discuss whether kids are smarter than their parents, then, we’ve got the X-Factor with a debate on talent shows. Featuring: Ivan Decker, Syd Bosel, Sean Lecomber, and Sterling Scott.
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Do candles deserve more appreciation? And is Tom Cruise the greatest movie star?
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37:38We’re waxing on about the pros and cons of candles, we feel the need for speed when we ask if Tom Cruise really is the Top Gun. Featuring: Jon Steinberg, Jan Caruana, Adam Cawley, and David Pryde.
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USPTO’s “One-and-Done” PTAB Approach and its Impact on the Patent Policy Debate
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1:20:57Recent changes at USPTO are increasingly shaping the context in which Congress considers potential patent legislation. In the latest episode of Clause 8, the focus turns to how the USPTO’s evolving approach to post-grant proceedings at the PTAB is shaping the broader patent policy debate—and influencing what Congress may (or may not) do next. The e…
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Does every home need a landline? Is Saint John superior to St. John’s?
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37:51We’re getting dialed in with a debate on landline phones. Then, we’re pitting two easily confused cities against each other - it’s Saint John, New Brunswick versus St. John’s, Newfoundland. Featuring: Matt Wright, Nikki Payne, James Mullinger, and Peter White.
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Before Your Pool Builder Buys a Private Jet With Your Deposit
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7:49In this short episode, Jason records from a Florida beach and explains why a simple 15-minute paid consultation can make a huge difference before your pool project goes sideways. If you’re worried about scams, half-finished jobs, or a “licensed” contractor who suddenly goes quiet, a focused consult lets you: Run a line from your contract past a lic…
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Should snowball fights be banned? And is 60 the new 40?
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27:35We’re right on target with a debate on snowball fights, then, it’s an ageless discussion on whether 60 is the new 40. Note, for all you keen Debaters fans, this is one from our vaults! Featuring: Derek Edwards, Dave Hemstad, Mike Wilmot, and Deborah Kimmett.
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Novartis’ Global Head of IP Affairs on How Patent Eligibility Mess Threatens Life-Saving Innovation & Why He Remains Optimistic
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1:10:19Corey Salsberg, one of the leading voices on intellectual property policy in the United States, joins Clause 8 to discuss surviving the anti-pharma activism of the last administration, why he’s encouraged by the current administration’s approach to patent policy, and even the scientific possibility of “resurrecting the woolly mammoth.” As Global He…
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Certified vs Licensed: They Said They Were Licensed… But They Lied
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13:41Certified vs Licensed: They Said They Were Licensed… But They Lied – They Were Only Certified In this episode, Jason pulls apart one of the pool industry’s favorite magic tricks: calling a certification a “license” and hoping homeowners don’t know the difference. We walk through what a true state license is, what a certification actually means, and…
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Are night owls superior to early birds? Does dogsledding bring the excitement?
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34:57It’s never too late for night owls to take on early birds, then, we decide if dogsledding is paws-itively thrilling. Featuring: Don Kelly, Yumi Nagashima, Graham Clark, and Jenny Hamilton.
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Your Unlicensed Pool Contractor Secretly Hates You – The Fast Track to a Lawsuit
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14:38Your Unlicensed Pool Contractor Secretly Hates You – The Fast Track to a Lawsuit In this episode of The Pool Envy Podcast, Jason digs into what really happens when you trust “the pool guy” who isn’t actually licensed—and why that decision can quietly put you on the fast track to a lawsuit. This isn’t just contractor drama. It’s about: How unlicense…
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Pioneers of the Modern Patent Pool Era at Via's Bridge Summit 2025
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38:12At the Via Licensing Alliance’s Bridge Summit 2025 in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who ushered in the modern age of patent pools: Garrard Beeney, founder of Sullivan & Cromwell’s IP practice, and John Sideris, Principal Licensing Counsel at Philips. Their conversation traces the evolution of patent pools — from …
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Is pool superior to darts? Does nothing beat growing up on PEI?
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36:32Right on cue, we’re pitting pool against darts. Then, two Prince Edward Islanders go potatoe-to-toe on whether their home province is the best place to grow up. Featuring: Kelly Taylor, Clare Belford, Meg MacKay, and Patrick Ledwell.
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Your Pool Looks Safe — Until the Insurance Claim Is Denied
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7:03Most pools look fine… until something happens and the insurance company shows up. Then suddenly the “perfect” backyard becomes a liability map. In this episode, Jason breaks down a real-world scenario he sees over and over again: beautiful pools that hide dangerous code violations, old components, missing bonding, gas-line mistakes, bad drain cover…
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Are baby showers great? Does nothing beat winter in Alberta?
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33:56We’re ready to rattle some nerves with a battle on baby showers, then, we’ve got an un-brr-lievably funny debate on Albertan winter. Featuring: Erica Sigurdson, Dakota Ray Hebert, Brittany Lyseng and Ola Dada.
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Florida Pool Contractor Deposits: Don’t Pay & Pray Summary: Too many Florida pool projects stall after a big deposit. This episode gives homeowners (and honest builders) a clear, statute-anchored playbook: the 30-day permit / 90-day start clocks, how to verify a real DBPR CPC license, the red flags before you pay, and exactly how to file complaints…
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Is having a plan superior to winging it? Are small airports a delight?
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34:21We’re deciding if it’s better to plan ahead or play it by ear, and if we should all get on board with small airports. Featuring: Nour Hadidi, Graham Chittenden, Shawn Hogan, and James Mullinger.
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Exclusive Interview: USPTO Deputy Commissioner Explains Changes to Examiner Performance Plan
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1:07:00In this episode of Clause 8, Deputy Commissioner for Patents Jerry Lorengo joins host Eli Mazour to share valuable, practical insights for patent professionals navigating the USPTO’s new Performance Appraisal Plan (PAP). Jerry discusses what’s changed in the latest update — including the revised streamlined review process, new production expectatio…
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Diesel, Deals & Hydroblast: A Week at Pool Envy (Code-Solid)
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11:48This week had range. Jason tracks down a diesel return-line drip on the plaster truck, spends time sharpening the website and comms, lands the most fun project of the year, and explains why November in Wisconsin is the perfect window to hydroblast and set a project up for a fast spring start. We keep it big picture, not DIY—how we diagnose, how we …
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Are high school friends the best friends you'll ever have? And are nosy neighbours better than noisy neighbours?
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36:06We’re deciding if high school friendships are forever, then, it’s no time to be a fencesitter when we debate whether a nosy neighbour beats a noisy neighbour. Featuring: Charlie Demers, Heidi Brander, Lisa Baker, and Derek Seguin.
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Pool Heater Pressure & Volume: How Good Looks Under Code
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9:44Title: Pool Heater Gas Sizing: Heat Without Headaches Summary: Your heater doesn’t run on vibes—it runs on pressure and volume. In this episode we define what “good” looks like under IFGC §402 / NFPA 54 so owners and builders can communicate clearly and avoid the lockout blame game. No DIY here—this is the big picture, outcomes, and documentation y…
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“The Inventress” Lisa Ascolese on the Realities of Being an Inventor: You Can’t Skip the Work
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43:28When I first heard about Lisa Ascolese, known as “The Inventress,” I knew I wanted to bring her story to Clause 8. Lisa’s path into inventing began after her family moved to Brooklyn, New York, where her creativity and curiosity found room to grow. She started inventing at a young age, driven by the simple desire to solve everyday problems. That cu…
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Ring of Safety: Equipotential Bonding Around Your Pool (NEC 680.26)
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7:17Standards & references cited NEC 680.26 intent & scope: equipotential bonding to reduce voltage gradients; overview of (B)(1)–(7). ECM Web NEC 680.26(B)(2) perimeter surfaces: 3 ft zone; 12×12 in copper grid option; four points around conductive shells; note on nonconductive shells. Electrical License Renewal+1 NEC 680.26(C) pool water bonding: ≥ 9…
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Are podcasts superior to music? Are date nights the key to a good relationship?
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32:29It's full stream ahead when we pit podcasts against music. Then, we go to town on whether date nights should be crucial to every couple. Featuring: Erica Sigurdson, Myles Anderson, Kyle Brownrigg, and Kate Davis. We value your input. Fill out our listener questionnaire here!
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Stop Blaming Regulation: A Builder–Owner Playbook
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12:50Why do so many pool projects melt down? It isn’t “too much regulation”—it’s too little planning. Jason breaks down the fast-“yes” incentives, missing scopes, and communication gaps that push owners, builders, and inspectors into conflict. You’ll hear a clear case study (gas meter/regulator sizing), the homeowner’s 7 questions, and the builder’s 7 c…
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Should curling be Canada’s national sport? Is Canada's Thanksgiving better than America's?
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39:38We’ve got a stone cold debate on whether curling should be Canada’s national sport. Then, who dishes out a better Thanksgiving, Canadians or Americans? Featuring: John Cullen, Elvira Kurt, Clifton Cremo, and Nathan Macintosh. Fill out our listener survey here. We appreciate your input!
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Secrets to Successfully Licensing in Asia from Via LA's Chief Licensing Officer & HDMI LA's President
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39:19By PodTechs Voice Department
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The White-Residue Clue: Why Your Heater Needs To Breathe
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12:59Tight closets and “creative” vents don’t make comfort—they make risk. In this episode, Jason breaks down the air-in / air-out / room-pressure triad and the simple clues he looks for on real walk-ins: white powder (zinc oxide) on vents, melted plastics, rust trails, and fried igniters. We stay owner-safe and brand-neutral: what to ask, what to photo…
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Is meeting the parents important? And is Victoria, BC cool?
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37:36We’re deciding if meeting the parents is a major milestone, and whether Victoria, BC has the cool factor. Featuring: Syd Bosel, Abdul Aziz, Ivan Decker, and Katie-Ellen Humphries. Fill out our listener survey here. We appreciate your input!
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Pool Envy®: Code • Compliance • Craftsmanship(Trailer)
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1:37This trailer sets the tone for Pool Envy®—the show where licensed expertise meets real-world practice. Expect: Code clarity: ISPSC, VGB, NEC 680—decoded into do-this-not-that steps Compliance in the field: inspections, plan review, permitting, barrier & entrapment safety Subtle nuances the industry misses: hydraulics/turnover, AHJ interpretations, …
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Does Velcro beat laces? Do dress codes at work matter?
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35:02We have a fasten-ating debate on Velcro vs. laces, then, we get down to business when we discuss dress codes at work. Featuring: Lisa Baker, Sean Cullen, Chad Anderson, and Brittany Lyseng.
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Ex–USPTO Deputy Laura Peter on How America Benefits from University Research and Proposals to Seize IP
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1:00:29Tech transfer has long been a critical but often overlooked part of the intellectual property system. For decades, the Bayh-Dole Act has guided how federally funded research moves from university labs into the marketplace. The system has generated hundreds of thousands of inventions and startups — and, as Laura Peter notes, led to nearly $2 trillio…
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Is wireless better than wired? And do you actually need a driver’s license?
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34:40We’re deciding if Bluetooth just makes you blue, and if everyone should be driven to get a driver’s license. Featuring: Arthur Simeon, Matt Falk, Jackie Pirico, and Derek Edwards.
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Should married couples renew their vows? And is living up North worth it?
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34:36We’re deciding if it makes sense to say “I do” all over again, and whether we should give living in the North the cold shoulder. Featuring: Charlie Demers, Erica Sigurdson, Gavin Clarkson, and Quincy Thomas.
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Why Creativity Needs Ownership: James Edwards on the Biblical Roots of IP & the Future of Patents
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57:45In To Invent Is Divine: Creativity and Ownership, Jim makes the case that creativity and ownership are inseparable—and that weakening intellectual property rights threatens the flourishing that invention enables. He draws connections between faith, history, and policy to explore why protecting intellectual property is about more than law or economi…
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Is 20 Years a long time? And do names need to have meaning?
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35:38It’s the premiere of our 20th season! So we’re asking: Is 20 years a long time? Then, what’s in a name? We’re deciding if these signifiers need significance. Featuring: Derek Seguin, Lara Rae, Ola Dada, and Wes Borg.
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20 Years of Debates: An Anniversary Special!
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35:21For the start of our 20th season, we're giving you a behind-the-scenes interview with our host Steve Patterson and Richard Side, creator of The Debaters! We'll be bringing you some of our most unforgettable debates, hearing from your favourite comedians, and getting the facts behind the funny!
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USPTO Changes, Patent Trends, and Judge Newman Through the Lens of Top IP Journalists
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1:02:42From Coke Morgan Stewart’s decisive actions at the USPTO, to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s unexpected “patent tax” trial balloon, to the ongoing Federal Circuit drama — it felt impossible to figure out where to start telling the story. The only way to make sense of it all was to bring in three of our favorite journalists who cover these issue…
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S2 E1: Facts over Fiction: Dispatching Misinformation in Reporting
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18:17We’re not in the business of chasing headlines—we’re in the business of getting it right. In this episode, we fact-check recent reporting regarding certain audit findings, clear up what CMS data actually says, and explain why some reports aren’t ours to release. Then we shift gears to celebrate the two long-term care facilities recently honored wit…
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Is Canada’s national anthem the best? And does everything happen for a reason?
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35:59It’s all about true patriot love when we ask if Canada’s national anthem is at the top, and a fateful debate questions whether everything happens for a reason. Featuring: Jon Steinberg, Ali Hassan, Courtney Gilmour and Nour Hadidi.
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Are shopping carts better than baskets? And is an invitation to the cottage the secret to summer fun?
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37:04Our season finale episode is a grocery grudge match and a real re-treat! Featuring: Matt Wright, Jan Caruana, Laurie Elliott, and Tamara Shevon.
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Which is better: Mother’s Day or Father’s Day? And do coaches matter?
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35:16We’re pitting parental holidays against each other, and deciding if coaches are a make or break mentor. Featuring: Dave Hemstad, Elvira Kurt, Emmanuel Lomuro, and Patrick Dussault.
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Are jeans the best pants? And is food delivery easier than ever?
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38:15We decide if wearing denim is a dream and whether ordering delivery is a breeze. Featuring: Stacey McGunnigle, Myles Anderson, Graham Clark and Lachlan Patterson.
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Which is better: Plastic or paper? And are you nobody until somebody hates you?
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35:21We decide if plastic beats paper and whether being hated has its benefits. Featuring: Ivan Decker, Martha Chaves, Nikki Payne, and Bruce Clark.
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S1 E7: Free, Friendly, and Focused on Safety: Iowa OSHA Consultation Services
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8:58Think OSHA only shows up when something goes wrong? Think again! In this episode, we’re talking about Iowa OSHA’s free and confidential consultation services that help employers spot and fix safety issues before anyone gets hurt—and without any citations or fines. We’ll also discuss two programs for employers: SHARP, designed to recognize small bus…
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Should you raise your family in Winnipeg? And is compromise the best solution?
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37:42When it comes to raising kids, does Winnipeg win? And is compromise a happy ending? Featuring: Chad Anderson, Lara Rae, Courtney Gilmour, and Jon Dore.
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Does nothing beat a day at the ballpark? And is Toronto the worst city in Canada to commute in?
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37:06It’s a homerun when we talk about a day at the baseball stadium, and whether commuting in Toronto is enough to drive you up the wall. Featuring: Patrick Dussault, Simon Rakoff, Isabel Zaw-Tun, and Don Kelly.
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Do butter tarts beat Nanaimo bars? And is there no shame in quitting?
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35:10Which Canadian confection are you sweet on: Butter tarts or Nanaimo bars? And do quitters never win? Featuring: Deborah Kimmett, Jon Steinberg, Graham Chittenden, and Leonard Chan.
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Shh! Is silence golden? Does a smoothie make a meal?
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36:33We decide if quiet is something to treasure, and whether a smoothie is meal-worthy. Featuring: Yumi Nagashima, Charlie Demers, Katie-Ellen Humphries, and Gavin Clarkson.
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