On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon Sanders and Les Hughes welcome guest Joseph Bennett, who shares his journey from the medical field to full-time ministry on a foreign mission field, and then from life in Honduras to returning to the United States where he now balances serving a pastor along with running a commercial cleaning business…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Ray Hilbert, founder of The Kingdom Factor, about the integration of faith and business. Ray shares the journey of his career and how he has navigated the challenges of aligning Christian values in corporate environments. Ray, Jon, and Les examine the American church's historical de…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Ryan Follis shares the story of his amazing transition journey from a corporate role with Target in which he honed significant skills in leadership and business acumen into the world of pastoral ministry. Ryan unpacks some of the struggles and frustrations he experienced as he made that transition and how…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast we welcome Scott Tharp, a bi-vocational pastor and financial coach, who shares his transformative journey from pastoral ministry to founding his business, Krisco Coaching. Motivated by personal financial triumphs and biblical principles, Scott now aids individuals in conquering financial difficulties, cha…

In this inspiring episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aisha “Wonderful” Jackson as she shares her transformative journey from corporate CFO to self-published author and entrepreneur. Facing tech barriers and self-doubt, Aisha embraced coaching, applied crucial business strategies, and underwent a profound spiritual realignmen…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Scott Benham, founder of the Intreprenuer Academy. Scott is on a mission to help people realize their giftings and talents to show up in the marketplace as key “intreprenuers” within growing organizations. He explains that people with an intrepreneurial mindset are similar to entrepr…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon talks with Chaz Freutel, a 'kingdompreneur,' and Director of the NOBLE Foundation Group (Network of Business and Entrepreneurial Leaders) about integrating entrepreneurship with Christianity. He encourages churches to make better use of underutilized spaces by creating entrepreneur centers and support…

For anyone who might find themselves serving in a toxic ministry culture where scarcity is the prevailing mindset, yet dreaming of a day where you could be walking in freedom and abundance, this episode is going to be a huge encouragement to you! In this “Saturday Replay” episode, Jon and Les have a conversation with Eric Reploeg about his journey …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Carl Cox about embracing marketplace opportunities for ministry. Carl shares his experience of expanding his ministry beyond traditional church walls and building relationships with diverse groups, including businesses, sports teams and first responders agencies. He emphasizes …

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

In this “Saturday Replay” episode Jon and Les will introduce you to another amazing entrepreneurial pastor. Alex Klimchuk and his wife Tanya are the founders and Lead Pastors of New Life Church in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Alex immigrated to the United States from Ukraine as a boy back in 1990. Having a life-long dream of owning his own business s…

What is the most important key to a successful business? Some might argue it is a great product or service. Others might say it is having a smart and savvy entrepreneur at the helm. Still others might suggest that it is a stellar marketing plan. While all of these elements are critical to the success of any great business, the most important key is…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Dr. David Powers about a platform he helps oversee called Passive Income Engines. David loves to see people develop streams of passive income through various activities that capitalize on their skills and passions. His true desire is to see people not only thrive financially, but to …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Jeff Elder about his life’s journey of surrendering to God’s calling into the ministry of business. Like many others, when Jeff was younger and desired to serve God with his life, he thought the obvious way to do that was through working as a pastor. However, God clearly intervened a…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Chris Orecchio about his role as Director of Business Development with ACTION Coach in Columbus, Ohio. In our conversation Chris shares the importance and advantages of leaning into kingdom principles in building and growing a business in the marketplace. Guest Info/Links: Link…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Robert Grice about his side hustle of counseling that not only compliments his pastoral ministry, but also provides an additional stream of income for his family. Robert shares how he got into the specific niche of grief counseling and how that has opened doors for ministry bey…

In this “Saturday Replay” edition of the EntrePastors podcast, we are going all the way back to the very beginning of our EntrePastors platform. In this episode you will hear Jon and Les share a little bit about their own personal journeys and the story of how they came together to serve pastors through this new endeavor. In doing so, you will also…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Josh Vidor about his life growing up in serious poverty in the home of a pastor’s family. While Josh’s experience as a youth didn’t drive him to a place of bitterness toward the Lord, it did have a tremendous impact on shaping his resolve that life would look different for him …

Who Not How is the second recommended book by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy. Les shares from his and Jon’s experience of implementing the principles in Who Not How. Being successful isn’t only about business principles and strategies. Success is about the right partnerships and relationships. If you’re trying to climb a mountain, it’s wise to go …

In this episode Les discusses one of two books by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy. The title sounds counter-intuitive, but 10x is Easier Than 2x is absolutely true. The authors discuss how to change your thinking and behavior to focus on the 20% of activity that’s leading to 80% of the results. Exponential growth only results in exponential thought…

Jon and Les have recommended The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler as much as any other resource. In this episode, Les talks about why they're so high on the book. It’s one thing to be able to coach someone, something that many pastors are great at. It’s something else to actually make money coaching. In the Prosperous coach, Litvi…

In this episode Les summarizes the impactful book, 48 Days to the Work and Life You Love by the late Dan Miller. Not only was Dan the personal friend and mentor of Jon and Les, his best-selling book has impacted thousands of people and helped them find meaningful and purposeful work. If you’re at a place in your life where you feel a little stuck, …

In this "Saturday Replay" addition of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les speak to the pastor who has come to the conclusion that the extra income from a side-hustle would be great, but they have no idea where or how to get started. Generally we find people in this space dealing with two different issues: On one hand, we see the common “problem” …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with pastor turned “purpose dealer,” Mark Delaney. Mark shares his journey of struggling with fulfilling his pastoral calling and feeling like a failure. He discusses the limitations of the church worldview and emphasizes the importance of a broader, more impactful vision for both pastors…

During the time of Jesus ministry here on earth, some of the greatest opposition he faced came from the leaders of the religious establishment of his day. At one point, Jesus compared the Pharisees to “old wineskins” implying that they were too rigid to accept him. Jesus could not be contained in their religious traditions and rules. This new move …

During the time of Jesus ministry here on earth, some of the greatest opposition he faced came from the leaders of the religious establishment of his day. At one point, Jesus compared the Pharisees to “old wineskins” implying that they were too rigid to accept him. Jesus could not be contained in their religious traditions and rules. This new move …

During the time of Jesus ministry here on earth, some of the greatest opposition he faced came from the leaders of the religious establishment of his day. At one point, Jesus compared the Pharisees to “old wineskins” implying that they were too rigid to accept him. Jesus could not be contained in their religious traditions and rules. This new move …

During the time of Jesus ministry here on earth, some of the greatest opposition he faced came from the leaders of the religious establishment of his day. At one point, Jesus compared the Pharisees to “old wineskins” implying that they were too rigid to accept him. Jesus could not be contained in their religious traditions and rules. This new move …

In this “Saturday Replay” addition of the EntrePastors podcast, we are reaching way back to one of our very first (and also most popular) episodes in which Jon and Les share four different profiles of people who will benefit from the EntrePastors message. In other words, who is this podcast for? Pastors who want to start, own, and operate a busines…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Rick Craig about his journey from church pastor to author and end-of-life planning consultant. Rick shares how he sought guidance through prayer, transitioned to a new ministry assignment, and actively pursued different income opportunities. He emphasizes the importance of end-…

So many would-be entrepreneurs get caught in the trap of “tomorrow.” They have a good business idea. They have a pretty clear picture of their desired future. But too often the plan is always to start “tomorrow.” They usually have a reason as to why they’re not ready to start today. In this 4-part series of podcast episodes, Jon shares what is usua…

So many would-be entrepreneurs get caught in the trap of “tomorrow.” They have a good business idea. They have a pretty clear picture of their desired future. But too often the plan is always to start “tomorrow.” They usually have a reason as to why they’re not ready to start today. In this 4-part series of podcast episodes, Jon shares what is usua…

So many would-be entrepreneurs get caught in the trap of “tomorrow.” They have a good business idea. They have a pretty clear picture of their desired future. But too often the plan is always to start “tomorrow.” They usually have a reason as to why they’re not ready to start today. In this 4-part series of podcast episodes, Jon shares what is usua…

So many would-be entrepreneurs get caught in the trap of “tomorrow.” They have a good business idea. They have a pretty clear picture of their desired future. But too often the plan is always to start “tomorrow.” They usually have a reason as to why they’re not ready to start today. In this 4-part series of podcast episodes, Jon shares what is usua…

How do you balance having a strong drive or ambition to grow and succeed on one hand with the command to be content in your current circumstances on the other? This is a common struggle for anyone who seeks to live a godly life, yet make a big impact in the world whether through their ministry or business pursuits. In this “Saturday Replay” episode…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les sit down with Trent Booth for a discussion about impacting the lives of others through a coaching business. Trent shares insights on the transition of pastors to coaching, spotlighting the skills and curiosity that make pastors well-suited for coaching roles. The conversation delves into the c…

Henry Ford is quoted as saying, “Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you’re right.” The truth is there is a powerful correlation between the level of our belief in success and the actual outcomes of our successes. If you have been in pastoral ministry for any length of time, it’s likely you’ve experienced some frustrating failures and set…

Henry Ford is quoted as saying, “Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you’re right.” The truth is there is a powerful correlation between the level of our belief in success and the actual outcomes of our successes. If you have been in pastoral ministry for any length of time, it’s likely you’ve experienced some frustrating failures and set…

One of the big limiting beliefs we see many pastors struggling with is the thought that they have very few skills that would be of value in the marketplace. They think since they received a Bible college and/or seminary degree and have been working exclusively in the church arena for so long that somehow they are “just a pastor” and don’t have much…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon talks about how to avoid a subtle and often overlooked form of arrogance that can creep into our hearts and minds as pastors. It’s the notion that the work we do in pastoral ministry is somehow a step or two above everyone else because afterall, it’s ministry…it’s eternal…it’s for the Lord. This flaw…

In this “Saturday Replay” episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les speak directly to those who sit on boards and leadership teams in churches all across the nation. Unfortunately, in many instances, pastors feel as though their potential to engage in some kind of marketplace ministry will be directly opposed by their boards. Jon and Les hav…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Les Hughes and Jon Sanders welcome weight loss coaches Alan and Angie Thomas to share their transformative health journey. The couple discusses the impact of obesity in the church and their unique coaching approach, emphasizing long-term transformations and individuals taking responsibility for their hea…

This week we are featuring a four part mini series from Les Hughes diving deeper into the subject of writing. We believe many pastors should give serious consideration to becoming published authors and we desire to help them do just that. In this episode, Les shares from his own personal journey into ghostwriting and how pastors can be successful i…

This week we are featuring a four part mini series from Les Hughes diving deeper into the subject of writing. We believe many pastors should give serious consideration to becoming published authors and we desire to help them do just that. In this episode, Les shares the three main ways to publish your books as well as the advantages and disadvantag…

This week we are featuring a four part mini series from Les Hughes diving deeper into the subject of writing. We believe many pastors should give serious consideration to becoming published authors and we desire to help them do just that. In this episode, Les shares three different categories of writing that can be source of significant income for …

This week we are featuring a four part mini series from Les Hughes diving deeper into the subject of writing. We believe many pastors should give serious consideration to becoming published authors and desire to help them do just that. In this episode, Les unpacks the various ways you can create revenue through your writing.…

For this “Saturday Replay” episode of the EntrePastors podcast we are reaching back to an interview Jon and Les did with David Hancock. David is the Founder and CEO of Morgan James Publishing. We discuss the benefits that can be realized when a pastor writes and publishes a book of their own. David shares some helpful tips on how pastors can build,…