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Origins are conversations with thought-leaders across an eclectic mix of disciplines (science, engineering, art, and design), crafted specifically for the category-defying society that we live in. We explore the thoughts, passions, and stories that defined these pioneers’ fascinating trajectories, arriving at the origins of the pivotal moments across their lives. Draw inspiration for your own trajectory from the intellectual and spiritual electricity of these eclectic conversations.
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Caitlin McShea

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A new InterPlanetary interview series from the Santa Fe Institute takes a page from the Strugatsky brothers' classic Soviet sci-fi novel, Roadside Picnic, to discuss a variety of transformative alien artifacts. Thirteen years ago, an alien civilization visited our planet, and left behind myriad, mysterious materials in their crash sites. These areas, Zones, behave very strangely, but the interplanetary items they contain could change the trajectory of our technological advancement. What appe ...
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Agustín Fuentes reads a multi-million year history of our world, a student of its myriad lessons that often subvert unquestioned modern narratives and the problematic ways we've arrived at them. His is an anthropological, ecological, refreshingly unalloyed sensibility, an uncommon concoction whose life of scholarship and insight illuminate what we …
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Hello friends, a new season of Origins is coming NEXT WEEK. Last season of this show was a season of flourishing. The episodes ahead we not be a season of something in particular but a movement toward process, toward open-endedness, toward unsettledness; of discipline, of intellect, of being. Great scientific breakthroughs are discoveries of proces…
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James Evans' life is one resplendent with ideas. His trajectory into research and learning in areas as wide as network science, collective intelligence, computational social science, and even how knowledge is created, is as irreducible as it is exhilarating, and is a beacon in disorienting times marked by seemingly accelerating paces of change. Ori…
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Ingrid Daubechies is endlessly, irrepressibly, beautifully curious. She is a Belgian physicist and mathematician whose scientific achievements have rippled across society in all directions for the past 35 years. But, more than that, she's a fierce champion of diversity and equality, in math and science, in women's rights, in opportunity. To sit wit…
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Mark Granovetter has made and remade our understanding of social networks, social theory, collective action, and economic sociology, making and remaking our world in the process. It would not be hyperbole to say that few living scholars have had the influence of Mark Granovetter. Origins Podcast Website Flourishing Commons Newsletter Show Notes: At…
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Tina Eliassi-Rad is a network science pioneer, and an intrepid explorer of where network science shows up in our world and how we understand that. Her work, as her life, falls across network science, complexity, artificial intelligence, and commitments to democracy and equality, itself a constellation of experiences and literacies befitting our inc…
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Judith Donath is a design thinker for some of the most important theory for how people interact in online spaces, drawing on evolutionary biology, architecture, ethnography, cognitive science. She just might be the voice we need for the multi-media multiscale world we're walking into. Origins Podcast Website Flourishing Commons Newsletter Show Note…
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There is something irresistible about the way C. Thi Nguyen thinks about and structures the world. From the lenses of trust, art, games, and communities he thinks about seemingly everything. In each of these topics, he's written pieces that I consider to be among the most important works on them. Origins Website Flourishing Commons Newsletter Show …
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We find ourselves living in a time of great complexity and flux, where the very fabric of our societies is being rewoven by the rise of artificial intelligence and the interplay of complex systems. How do we make sense of a world that is undeniably interconnected, with increasingly porous boundaries between nature and culture, human and machine, sc…
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Twins Dani Bassett and Perry Zurn are curious. Their work, individually and together, gives new conception and language to what curiosity is, the work that it does in the world. These are human beings of intelligence and integrity and deep care, and their reification of curiosity might just be a generative narrative of our time. Origins Podcast Web…
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After a generative break from new episodes, Origins Podcast is back with Season Six! 2023 has been a year of rapid change even as we carry the rupture of the last three years. It is precisely into this evolving landscape, that we are excited to announce that Origins Podcast returns with its Sixth Season! While it will continue to be a forum to expl…
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Frank White is a philosopher of space. In 1987 he coined the term "the overview effect," referring to the life-altering experience astronauts received upon witnessing our planet from outer space. His work, as his life, bring this transformation of perspective into sharper focus, presenting an alternative perception of ourselves, our world, and our …
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Nicole Stott has a towering range of knowledge and experience, from the heights of outer space as a NASA astronaut to the depths of the ocean as an aquanaut, from the rigor and structure of science to the openness and imagination of art. She continually defies category, and her life embodies the creativity and interconnection that we are called to …
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David Sloan Wilson is one of biology’s most prolific and impactful scientists. He is author of paradigmatic contributions to evolutionary theory and how organisms behave, such as multilevel selection and core design principles for the efficacy of groups. But the reach of his work is far beyond the domains of biology and sociology, in whole a toolki…
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Ed Finn might be best described as an imaginer. The rest of the many things that he is and does kind of fall into place with that foundation. He started and for the past decade has been Director of the unexampled Center for Science and the Imagination at Arizona State University. Origins Podcast Website Flourishing Commons Newsletter Show Notes: Gö…
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Alex McDowell is a worldbuilder. He builds future realities to envision worlds that don't yet exist. By working across disciplines to imagine the future, his worlds inform and inspire stories and open eyes to new possibilities. Origins Podcast website Show Notes: Quaker meeting (09:40) Empowerment The skills of listening and gathering (11:40) The p…
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Poetry comes up so often in my conversations these days. Our society in crisis seems to be desperate for it, without being able to name that desperation until a poem calls it out of us. For years, award-winning Poet David Hassler has been defining and redefining how poetry enters and moves people and communities. Show Notes: Jane Hirshfield (04:30)…
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Alicia Juarrero is Professor Emerita of Philosophy at Prince George’s Community College and the author of Dynamics in Action, a text that many consider to have laid the foundation for how we think about complexity in our society. So Alicia is a philosopher for this moment in human history. Show Notes: Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke (…
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Brandon Ballengée has a unique quality of attention, one that is not constrained by traditional distinctions between art & science and working & living. He wants to share that capacity to witness to liberate everyone's imagination of what this world can be, a world we are of rather than just in. This ecological consciousness informs his work as a v…
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Welcome back to Origins, listeners. After a few month hiatus, we're back with an exhilarating, generative, spacious season of the show--the hiatus was in part so that I could focus on research, to launch a new series of 'salons' with the Cultural Program for the National Academy of Science (see here for an example), help ignite a new initiative tow…
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Subscribe to The Flourishing Commons - a newsletter to accompany Origins episodes and to build a community around a rich forum for exchange. Sara Hendren is a humanist in tech. This may seem like a strange statement, but it may be a perfect place to pick up Sara's trajectory. She is a brilliant designer, an affecting educator, and just might be the…
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Michael Hochberg is Distinguished Research Director with the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (the French National Centre for Scientific Research) and based at the University of Montpellier, France. His research has for many years spanned fields from ecology to epidemiology to biodiversity to innovation to the communication of science a…
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For years Dave Snowden has helped me understand how to navigate a complex world better than perhaps any other thinker. He draws so widely from all schools of thought in forming frameworks for sensemaking. This episode is expanding. It will be with me for a long time and I hope it stays with you, too. Read more at: https://www.originspodcast.co/epis…
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Learn more about what was discussed in this Alien Crash Site episode by clicking through the links below: Lindy’s homepage Psyche Mission ASU's InterPlanetary Initiative Vesta Kleopatra Maxar Henry Stone at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Voyager Mission - Gravity Assist Lucy Mission DART Mission Psyche Inspired…
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Learn more about what was discussed in this episode by clicking on the links below: Gary’s homepage. Unfettered journey Dan Dennett Eugene Wigner Michael's Complexity Podcast interview with David Kinney 2019 IPFest World Building panel discussion Geoffrey West’s Scale Hanson's Age of Em SFI Symposium AI and the Barrier of Meaning ACtioN Climate Cha…
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Katy Börner is one of the great mappers of our age. Her maps tell the history of science, trace how communication has evolved from the stone age to modern day, and reveal the connections across our society. In her work, all of these things become visual and interactive. That is to say she is the perfect person to talk to in this age when complexity…
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Learn more about everything referenced in this episode by clicking the links below: New School Policy and Design for Outer Space SFI’s InterPlanetary Project Aging, Adaptation, and the Arrow of Time - A James S. McDonnell Foundation funded research track on Complex Time Complex Time video playlist InterPlanetary 2019 panel on Complex Time, featurin…
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This episode originally aired on June 4, 2020. There are new episodes coming to you soon, so stay tuned. But now is a good time to revisit wise words from one of my favorite previous guests, Cecilia Conrad, Managing Director of the MacArthur ('Genius') Fellows Program and the 100&Change program. The 2021 class of MacArthur Fellows was announced in …
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To learn more about items mentioned in this podcast: Natalie's homepage Co-Ordination: On Time Between Worlds - An InterPlanetary Panel discussion on Complex Time Chris Kempes's Alien Crash Site Interview on life detection "Towards a more universal life detection strategy" as submitted to the Planetary and Astrobiology Decadal Survey Arrival Ted Ch…
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Dr. and professor Jessica Flack has been a dream guest for Origins since the beginning - the kind of generous intellect and polymath whose words and work expand everyone around her. She also might be the person we can place our trust in to help us learn how to make sense of an increasingly complex world. Show Notes: Josh Epstein - agent-based model…
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JoAnn Kuchera-Morin is a composer. But the music she writes is more than mere notes; it embraces art and science and engineering and finds new frontiers at the intersection of them all. Her 'music' is both song and her research into new modes of immersive, interactive scientific and artistic investigation. Through art as with science, her work seek…
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Generalized Stoichiometry and Biogeochemistry for Astrobiological Applications Multiple Paths to Multiple Life Watch Chris Kempes and David Krakauer discuss multiple life in episode 2 of "Andromeda Strain and the Meaning of Life" Watch Sara Walker's critique of Multiple Life in episode 4 of "Andromeda Strain and the Meaning of Life" Allometric scal…
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I have trouble wrapping any adequate labels around this episode’s guest, Paco Nathan. Paco is a technologist, data scientist and an evangelist of a brighter data and technology future. He has an uncommon ability to synthesize the gaps and trends in this complex and evolving space, and gives me hope that we can create a more flourishing future withi…
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Learn more about everything referenced in this episode by clicking the links below: Identifying Molecules as Biosignatures with Assembly Theory and Mass Spectrometry. Generalized Stoichiometry and Biogeochemistry for Astrobiological Applications. Time Team Elemental Cycles DNA has Four Bases. Some Viruses Swap in a Fifth Bennu Hayabusa Mission Alie…
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Caitlin McShea is that special kind of curious that you cannot help but be inspired by, and she has the intellect to spread that curiosity over any domain. For the past ten years in roles varying from director of art galleries, curator and coordinator of exhibits, and now as a program manager at the Santa Fe Institute, she has been giving language,…
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Learn more about things discussed in this episode, by clicking on the links below: Timiebi Aganaba's home page And LinkedIn And Twitter Global Space Treaty Artemis Accords Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Lindy Elkins-Tanton of Arizona State University's InterPlanetary Project And the Psyche Mission The Court Case: Viasat, Inc (Appellant) Vs. Federal Co…
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Professor Anima Anandkumar is a meteor in the field of artificial intelligence or AI. Her rise in the space has been a phenomenon to behold and her voice is a refreshing and inviting one that might just alter the trajectory of AI and society. Show Notes: Artificial Intelligence (AI) (01:00) Love of the liminal spaces (03:20) Philosophy and connecti…
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To learn more about the items discussed in this interview, click through the links below. Ryan’s website Ryan on Twitter The Carrington Event Parker Solar Probe Mars MAVEN Ushering in a New Frontier in Geospace through Data Science Dictionary of Obscure sorrows What is an Individual? Jorge Luis Borges “Talk on Indolence” by the Avett Brothers "Mach…
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Dan Goods is a leader among the community of creatives at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, so he's an imaginer among imaginers. A creator among creators. He's one of the most innovative minds I've come across, and someone who embodies selflessness and that most wonderful and contagious quality that is an insatiable curiosity. Show Notes: How he de…
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During two years spent at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, curiosity-driven coffee conversations every morning with people who surprised and inspired me sparked an endless fascination with the pivotal moments across a life. Travels to leading art, science, engineering, and design institutions around the world nourished my passion and blossomed int…
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For more information on items mentioned in this interview, click through the links below. Vanessa’s Website InterPlanetary 2018 Festival panel "Intelligent Systems and Cognitive Assistance" featuring Vanessa, David Krakauer, Jonah Nolan, Graham Spencer & Kurt Squire. Dan Sperber Norman Rockwell's painting "The Gossips" Giant dragonfly - Meganeura A…
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Learn more about the items discussed in this conversation by clicking on the links below. The paper discussed: "Identifying molecules as biosignatures with assembly theory and mass spectrometry" "Scientists develop new molecular tool to detect alien life" - news article "Chemists design alien life detector" - news article The essay discussed: ($$ p…
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Learn more about everything referenced in this episode by clicking the links below:Herschel Moon History Natalie Elliot’s Homepage Alexander Pope’s “The Rape of Lock” Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar Hamlet Romeo and Juliet Claudius Ptolemy Nicolaus Copernicus Tycho Brahe Aristophanes’s Clouds Birds Fermilab Bison Antikythera Mechanism “Origin Story” fo…
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Learn more about everything referenced in this episode by clicking the links below: InterPlanetary 2018 - Planetary Policy, Law & Regulation Panel Earth Juijitsu Environment Now Ecuador’s recognition of Pachamama Slavoj Zizek Santa Monica’s sustainability ordinance, protecting the aquifers Brown v. Board of Education US Space Act (1958) Outer Space…
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Learn more about the things we discuss in this episode by clicking through the links below: Honeybee Capital Ever-Widening Circles, by Rilke Zero sum game Tom Seeley's work on honeybees Suzanne Simard's work about tree communication networks Geoffrey West's lecture on Scaling I Dream a Highway - Gillian Welch Ode to Joy - Beethoven Final scene of S…
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