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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Pod Like a Hole

The Beast With Three Backs

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Welcome to Pod Like a Hole. In season 1, this was the place to hear Marc Alan, Steven Earl, and Eric Monroe discuss all things Nine Inch Nails and give an album (or Halo) analysis on each episode. For Season 2, we discuss all of David Bowie‘s studio work, live albums, and anything else tangentially related to The Thin White Duke, Ziggy Stardust, Goblin King, Button Eyes, and more. For Season 3, we RUN THE GAMUT on artists, albums, and bands that we think are some of the most influential in m ...
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Are you a music nerd? If so, we already love you. Every week we dissect the entire discography of a different artist—album by album. That’s right…even the albums they wish you forgot. It's great. Especially if you love arguing. Come discover some amazing new artists with us every Tuesday!
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A goth talk podcast designed to help Babybats get into the Goth subculture while avoiding common hurdles. Tales from the Gatekeeper delves into the history of the subculture, the question of what makes someone Goth, and the realities of being involved in the Goth scene in the present day.
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I specialize in Classic Alternative. From the late 1970's through to this very day. Playing classic New Wave, Synth Pop, New Romantic, Post Punk, Industrial, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Brit-Pop, Grunge, Trip Hop, Alternative, Electronic and much more! Tune in for DJ BK's Modern Rock #1's which is uploaded every week. On this series I chronicle every single song that has ever hit the #1 spot on Billboard's Modern Rock chart. The chart started in 1988 with Siouxsie and the Banshees taking the top spot ...
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This week we're discussing the remaining albums by Siouxsie and the Banshees. This era covers 1984-1995, into their subsequent break up. While there are still plenty of beloved albums in this era, this is also where some complications hit the band. One of which being their brief stint with The Cure's Robert Smith on guitar. It's not all good, folks…
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This week we're discussing every album by Shellac. After covering Big Black and Rapeman in past episodes, it was only a matter of time before we eventually got to Shellac. However, due to the unexpected and tragic loss of Steve Albini this year, this episode is bittersweet. They were a fantastic band that we're happy to dissect in detail here. Clos…
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This week we're discussing Cometh the Storm, the latest album by the great High on Fire. Led by guitarist/vocalist Matt Pike (Sleep) and joined for the first time by drummer Coady Willis (Murder City Devils, Big Business, Mevlins), Cometh the Storm is High on Fire doing what they do best. Is it similar to their other albums? Yes. Does it rule? Also…
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On the 4th of July 2024, Pod Like A Hole is celebrating by uploading our discussion of Willie Nelson's The Red Headed Stranger. This concept album is a Sunday morning favorite in one of the hosts homes, and the boys seem to all agree that it's status as an All American Classic is no fluke. Willie bet on himself (and the talents of his sister Bobbi …
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This week we're discussing every album by Destiny's Child. Yes, you read that correctly. Do we want to cover this band? Absolutely not. Did someone pay us to do it? You're damn right. So we listened to all their albums as unbiased as possible. For the love of God, if you're a fan of Destiny's Child or Beyonce, do not watch this. Closing track: "Jum…
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This week we're discussing WAR., the newest album by noise rock band WHORES. This album hits insanely hard. If you find yourself in the mood for noise rock with a healthy dosage of sludge metal mixed in there, you'll have a hard time finding a better album than this one this year. Crank this one loud, folks. Closing track: "Quitter's Fight Song" Pa…
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This week we're discussing the debut solo album by Portishead vocalist Beth Gibbons titled Lives Outgrown. We honestly weren't sure what to expect from this record, but what we got is easily one of the best albums of the year. While there are hints of Portishead's sound here, Gibbons has taken a turn for the dark, orchestral, and tribal. This is on…
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Willie Nelson is many things: a lover, a traveler, a Texan, a guitar player, smoker, outlaw, hero, poet, fashion icon, actor, activist, philanthropist, gunslinger, wiseacre, animal lover, brother, father, husband (four times over), Hellraiser, braids and beard enthusiast, but most of all Willie is a friend to all. In this episode of Pod Like A Hole…
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This week we're discussing every album by hip hop trio Injury Reserve. Made up of Ritchie with a T, Parker Corey, and Stepa J. Groggs (before his untimely death in 2020), Injury Reserve made some of the most innovative and downright insane rap in history. This isn't for casual music listeners, but it is wholly unique unlike anything we've heard bef…
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This week we're discussing the latest album by metalcore band Knocked Loose, titled You Won't Go Before You're Supposed To. Now Alex and Mike aren't the hugest fans of hardcore/metalcore, but they are fans of extreme music. And let me tell you, ANY fan of extreme music must hear this album. The hype is real, folks. This is one of the most creative …
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This week we're discussing every album by Hot Snakes. Led by the prolific guitar duo of Rick Froberg and John Reis (Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt, Obits), Hot Snakes takes the post-hardcore technicality of Drive Like Jehu and condenses into shorter and more energetic song structures. An incredible band whose life was cut short due to the u…
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This week we're discussing Infinite Desires, the latest album by post-disco artist Donny Benét. This isn't the type of album we normally cover on this show, but after taking one look at Donny's incredible mustache and hairdo, we were sold. And the music? If you're open to funky, soulful, and dancey stuff, then it is a must-listen and one of the bes…
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WE'VE GOT BATS IN OUR BELFRY!!!!! Grey would be the colour if we only had a way to colour-coat episodes. It's Goth Month here on Pod Like a Hole, so get out your choker, get your eyeliner, and pick a safeword , we are covering Siouxsie and the Banshees and it is getting DARK. It is Intern Eric's final pick of the season, and does he go out with a b…
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This week we’re discussing the only album by Maskull. This album is the biggest mystery we’ve ever had on this show. After its release in 1997, Maskull vanished leaving virtually no trace, aside from a few rumors. The music itself? Completely insane and downright hilarious. Joined by Mike’s brother Robert, we dive deep into the rabbit hole to uncov…
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This week we’re discussing every album by Grotus (stylized as Grötüs). Die hard Mike Patton fans might recognize this band, as he championed them in the early 90s and even took them on tour with Mr. Bungle. However, Grotus’s music stands on its own as a brutal mashup of industrial and groove metal. An overlooked gem of a band that’s worth checking …
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Pod Like A Hole: Mastodon Part 3 - Emperor of Sand Track by Track The hosts riff and theorize about the journey of the Wanderer as he goes toe to toe with the Sultan on Mastodon's 2017 release: Emperor of Sand. This is the 3rd and final Mastodon episode in this Pod Like A Hole mini season. The first episode covered their history, the second was a d…
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This week we’re not only discussing Tarantula Heart, the latest album by the Melvins, but Buzz Osborne himself has graced us with an exclusive interview (which starts at 37:56). Tarantula Hearts marks the Melvins’ return to dual drummers (this time with Ministry’s Roy Mayorga) and it’s a delight. Later in the episode, our history guy Tom talks to B…
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Intense but Brief! Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key Surely not - Australian rules football of course! Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs! 3 gigs a night and it all paid off Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule b…
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This week, we’re discussing the latest album by sludge metal band BIG|BRAVE, A Chaos of Flowers. We’ve been following BIG|BRAVE since this show began and A Chaos of Flowers shows them evolving in a massive way. Still one of the heaviest albums you’ll hear, but with careful attention to atmosphere, minimalism, and beauty. A dense and destructive alb…
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Carpets and Bass Drums! Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives We all took numbers, and we all took a Name They were all unreadable when the next day Came The Journey is The Thing! Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away The Highs and Lows that made it Work…
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This week we’re discussing the latest album by Pissed Jeans, Half Divorced. If high speed hardcore punk with a noise rock edge is your thing, this is easily one of the best albums of the year. This is Mike and Alex’s first time hearing Pissed Jeans and they were delighted, to say the least. Give it a shot, this one’s hard not to love. Closing track…
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Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing! Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We? When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality? Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story! Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE? How Do We keep Sane? Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet! We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee? G…
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This week we’re discussing every album by Siouxsie and the Banshees from 1978 to 1982. Aside from being one of the most influential bands in modern music, Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees played a major role in pioneering goth music, along with Bauhaus and the Cure. In this episode, we’re tackling the early years where they laid the foundation. It’s…
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Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up! Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill, But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill? It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two! Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue! Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic! Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret…
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This week we’re discussing A Sudden Craving, the newest album by The Children… And for the first time ever, we have included an exclusive interview with the band. Made up of Michael Wiener, Jim Coleman (Cop Shoot Cop), and Phil Puelo (Cop Shoot Cop, Swans), The Children have created some of the most fascinating, texture-rich music you will hear thi…
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In what is one of my favorite talks this podcast has had, the hosts walk through the entire Mastodon discography - short of the track by track talk of Emperor of Sand and a Cold Dark Place that will be the bulk of the next episode. Starts with Call of the Mastodon, ends with Hushed and Grim. How many different ways can three 40ish Dads say "wow thi…
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Love it to Death! Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo? All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna? Hey, What do You Do? What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all? When counting a song in, could make a heart stall It’s not a choice, it’s t…
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This week we’re discussing every album by Foetus. However, there are a million EPs, remix albums, and collabs, so we’re just sticking with the core 10 albums. Foetus is the brainchild of JG Thirlwell, whom many will know as the music composer for The Venture Bros. and Archer. But Thirlwell’s roots stem all the way back to the New York no wave scene…
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Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany! It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer! Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens! Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places …
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For Tom's full interview with the band: https://tomosman.substack.com/p/episode-10-prisoner?r=6g776&triedRedirect=true This week we're discussing Putrid | Obsolete, the latest album by Prisoner. While these guys are self-described as industrial/metal/punk, the result sounds like all of these and none of them at the same time. Punishing, disturbing,…
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Washing upon the beach of your shipwrecked life is another episode of Pod Like a Hole. The first of 3 episodes dedicated to the mighty Mastodon of the south. Episode 1 (this episode) we cover the band's formation, the 4 members of this band, and the bulk of the discussion is the influences and peers that helped shape their sound. If you are a fan o…
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1st Gush. It’s all Greek in Brackets. Tokyo in stereo to the spirit of Ghosts. The sample debate and the bones of contention continue. No loops or samples except of ourselves. We get going as human beatboxes. 2nd Gosh. Are drums electric? Are drummers eclectic? Voices on the Air? We got Wooden Teeth! Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you The Sonic Poem…
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This week we’re discussing the one and only album by Mike Patton’s Peeping Tom. We all know Patton from Faith No More and Mr. Bungle (and his million other side projects, honestly), but Peeping Tom was the one time he tried mainstream pop music. Or at least his version of it, which of course sounds like no one else and could barely be considered po…
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‘Butch - He got the Hooks!’ Topper Headon – He got the Grooves Inspiration and Collaboration Clash! Butch got that magic Snare Fill! But our Hats go Off to Topper Headon! 'Butch as President of The Roxy Music fan club!’ King of the Fills? – Roxy’s Paul Thompson Caution the New drummer - Don’t Forget Those Hooks!! Phil Manzanera - a Guitarist on Fir…
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This week we’re discussing every album by Porno for Pyros. Formed by Perry Farrell and Stephen Perkins of Jane’s Addiction, Porno for Pyros is a completely distinct spin-off band. Where JA was more guitar-centric, these guys are more rhythmic and psychedelic. A completely different style, but dynamic and with plenty of musical depth. Also, the band…
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Bill or George, Anything but Sue! Clyde Stubblefield always arrived early Clyde made a so-so kit sound Great! How do the Greats sound the Way they Do? It’s all about Recognising the Good Mistakes! 3am Insomnia and the IQ Tour drop! Hey Butch, what’s on the Weather Channel tonight? How’s Your Bed of Nails this Evening? Shirley is a Natural Born Road…
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This week we’re discussing She Reaches Out to She Reaches Out to She, the latest album by Chelsea Wolfe. Aside from being a mouthful, this album has Wolfe once again taking a sharp detour from the style of her last album—this time into mind-bending, dark electronic. Wolfe rarely disappoints and this record is no different. Dig it. Closing track: “W…
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Well the dust is still settling from the betrayal that was our System of a Down episode, and it is positively palpable in the air. However, this ravaged warground is the perfect location for the power of Fugazi's "The Argument". Steve, Marc, and Eric spin this 2001 album, discuss DC Hardcore, the Dischord Records scene, the Post-Hardcore genre havi…
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Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?” A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham. Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another…
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This week we’re discussing TANGK, the latest album by IDLES. We’ve been huge fans of these guys for years, but now the rest of the world is finally getting around to them. TANGK is their biggest record yet, with production by Nigel Godrich and a guest appearance by LCD Soundsystem. But TANGK doesn’t just talk a big game—it’s their best album yet an…
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‘Fanfares and Tears’ Pan as Magician of Inspiration Brings Joy and Melancholy by Transmogrification Pan gets Deeper then Deeper than Deep! ‘Digging in the Dirt - to find the Places we got Hurt’ ‘Prepare for the Big Reveal’ In front of the TV Going through Puberty Fluorescent Erotica as Manhood dawns Between the Adult and the Child Lies the Hissing …
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This week, we’re discussing every album by Tupac Shakur. Or, more accurately, every album by 2Pac and one by Makaveli. It would take us a year to cover all his posthumous albums, so we’re sticking with just one. If you’ve heard of music, then you know 2Pac, plain and simple. But how do we feel about his actual full-length albums? Let’s just say thi…
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Brutality! Everything fitting as we’re thrashing about Looking for Clues as we Twist and Shout California dreaming no Communication Breakdown Lol knocks a beat out and we go Downtown! Religion! 20 seconds Over Babaluma It’s Metal Machine Madness Who’s in the Big box? Drums and Love are All around And a Dancebeat! Is Bigger better or is Better Bigge…
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This week we’re discussing every album by Primus. This band needs no introduction as core members Les Claypool, Larry LaLonde, and Tim Alexander have been gracing us with their insanity since the late 80s. Heavy, funky, kooky, technical, and above all else, memorable. Plus they did several South Park themes. If you’ve been putting this band off, th…
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We had to do a Nu Metal episode. One hosts lived and breathed it during his teens, a real Jinco Wallet Chain nerd. Another host dabbled in the scene, sometimes to just check on his friend and make sure he wasn't too far gone. A third host was drafted into the No Limit army at the time and was too busy fighting on battles on the Sun Coasts and misse…
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Dream (a Little Dream of Tea!) Shopping Mall testimonials, but.. Lol just wants to buy a shirt! Recognition comes when you least expect it Budgie’ll name that song in Three!!! Fame (What you Need You Have to Borrow!) On the Way Up or On the Way Down? How is that Old Band of Yours? My Grandad Loves you guys Fred Incognito in Las Vegas Liverpool (She…
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Tom’s full interview with Satyasena: https://tomosman.substack.com/p/episode-3-satyasena-interview?r=6g776 This week we’re discussing the debut album by Satyasena. Formed and led by Pej Mon (of Secret Chiefs 3 and Ghoul), Satyasena explores a side of metal that you probably haven’t heard before. Middle Eastern, industrial, and death metal, among ma…
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