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State of the Second

Gun Owners of America

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The State of The Second, an interview-style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism are having on the firearms industry, and the Second Amendment community. The State of The Second is hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, who each bring years of experience and expertise in both the firearms industry, and Second Amendment advocacy. Episodes will feature interviews with a wide variety of companies and individuals from across the firearms industry and community. The goa ...
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A show about what is happening around us, or things we find fascinating at the moment. We may discuss politics, or possibly a quack doctor who implanted goat testicles in people, promising a cure for everything. Topics can be current, or historical, and often one thing leads to another.
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John & Kailey sit down with Josh, the Director of Sales and Marketing at Freedom Ordnance. They discuss the difficulties of dealing with banks as a firearms manufacturer, the revolving door of ATF challenges and the release of their new Grip the FG15 that can turn your Rifle into a Gatling Gun! Learn more about Freedom Ordnance: https://freedomordn…
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Join John, Kailey, and Ben Nelson of Otter Waiver as they delve into the complications of phone marketing, text message regulations, and the nuances of security. Their discussion extends to topics such as comment periods, the influx of new gun owners, and the culture of instant gratification. Learn more about Otter Waiver: https://otterwaiver.com…
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Join John, Kailey, and Jordan, owner of Kill Flash Photography, as they discuss how to handle censorship and shadow banning on social media platforms and gain advice on customizing your first firearm. Dive into the other side of the conversation about ATF overreach, the Bump Stock Case, and hiding gun control in legislative bills. Learn more about …
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Join the conversation with John, Kailey, and Ari Bartolome from PWS & Lone wolf as they uncover Ari’s unique path to success and how he became an advocate for the entire Second Amendment community. As well as, offering insight to the human side of the industry. Learn more about PWS: https://www.primaryweapons.com/…
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Join John, Kailey, and Josh Silva from AR15.com as they navigate the diverse perspectives on the Second Amendment and its role in modern society, from self-defense essentials to the concealed carry lifestyle. As well as, discussing the vibrant world of firearms forums and how these platforms have shaped the 2A community. Learn more about AR15.com: …
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This episode packs a punch! Join John, Kailey, and Ken Ross from Primary Arms as they discuss a time when not everyone could exercise their rights equally. They dive into the efforts to fight for essential values and celebrate the rich tradition of hunting. Plus, learn about the 2A industry's experiences with challenges like FFL shipments, the Pist…
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In this episode, join John, Kailey, and Rachel from Night Fision as they explore the world of firearms and optics, tackling essential topics that every enthusiast should explore. From overcoming obstacles to understanding the science behind optics and exploring regulated radiation products, we’ve got it all covered. Learn more about Night Fision: h…
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Today on State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Daniel Holder of CZ-USA. They breakdown how CZ is working to change the relationship between hunting and the Second Amendment, and CZ’s plans for the newly acquired, legendary American manufacturer Colt. Learn more about CZ-USA: https://cz-usa.com/…
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This week on State of the Second John, Kailey, and special guest Print Shoot Repeat sit down to talk guns, printing, and secret identities. Come for the story behind the mask and stay for the breakdown on how 3D printing has made the tradition of making your own firearms more attainable for many in the 21st century. We get PSR on the record talking…
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Join John, Kailey, and Kevin Kinzler from GSL Suppressors as they dive into GSL’s history, gun education safety, the Shush Act, and state laws on suppressors. Explore the voting landscape with topics like moving the needle, the power of attendance, and contacting reps. Learn more about GSL: https://gsltechnology.com…
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A community of Earth System scientists at the Stockholm Resilience Centre asked a powerful question: How do we define a safe operating space for humanity with all that is currently known about the Earth’s various systems? They determined that there are there are nine critical thresholds that together define a safe operating space for humanity: bios…
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Engage in discussions on parenthood within the 2A community with Kailey, John, and Aimee Langdon of Langdon Tactical. Explore avenues for introducing gun education and safety to your children, maintaining situational awareness, and handling threats when accompanied by kids. Learn more about Langdon Tactical: https://langdontactical.com/…
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Join a discussion session with John, Kailey, and Jamin McCallum, the CEO of Palmetto State Armory, as they unveil the captivating origin tale of PSA, with a specific emphasis on the pivotal 90% factor and their groundbreaking innovations. Additionally, explore key topics such as the Pistol Brace Ban, the Bump Stock Case, and the ATF’s redefinition …
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Curious about the industry's behind-the-scenes dynamics? Tune in as Kailey, John, and Greg Tanacea from 2A Commerce dive straight into topics like credit card fraud, flagged transactions, and political challenges. Explore policy matters including the Safer Banking Act, the Shush Act, and more! Learn more about 2A Commerce: https://2acommerce.com/…
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Unveil the secrets of CMMG’s manufacturing process with John, Kailey, and Mike O’Dell in this episode. Dive into discussions on gun culture, navigating ATF regulations, the recent Pistol Brace ban, effective strategies for changing anti-gunner perspectives, and more! Learn more about CMMG: https://cmmg.com/…
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In the Northern Hemisphere, today marks the winter solstice designating a point in the year when we are afforded the shortest amount of daylight—of course, if you live in say Australia or Chile, you are experiencing the opposite. It is also around this time of year, that many of our spiritual traditions anticipate the return of light. Today we have…
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Join John, Kailey, and "Rapid Fire" Rachel in this episode as they discuss the wide range of machine guns. The conversation expands to address the challenges of carrying while pregnant, coupled with educational discussions about children and firearms. Explore topics like initiating firearm collections and policy issues, such as the bump stock case,…
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Join John and Kailey in an engaging conversation with Ryan from Rix Optics as they explore the diverse world of hunting, from tracking hogs, coyotes, and predators to addressing the Biden Administration’s impact on hunters. Uncover the truth behind thermal scopes, discuss the Lead Ammo Ban, and more! Learn more about Rix Optics: https://www.rix-nv.…
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GOA is proud to present the 14th episode of the State Of The Second podcast. In this episode John and Kailey sit down with Alex Brodsky, an industry expert. In this thought provoking discussion they delve into the American tradition of building firearms, and the intricate details of the ATF's War on Plastic, uncovering its ambiguous scope. Alex sha…
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Join the discussion with John and Kailey alongside Sylvan Arms Government Sales Executive, Mike Baldasarre. The conversation touches on the application of suppressors in hunting, insights into the Shush Act, reflections on government overreach, slumps and spikes of the market, and pushing back on the ATF. Learn more about Sylvan Arms: https://sylva…
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Today, the GOA Media team—Kailey, John, Tiffany, and Ben—share their greatest moments of 2023, the importance of the Second Amendment, and send a hearty THANK YOU to all our amazing members and supporters. If you've ever been curious about life behind the scenes at GOA this episode will give you a glimpse into who we are as a team, an organization,…
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Sit down with John and Kailey as they chat with Trey Miller, the owner of Ghost Tactical. The conversation explores different perspectives on what it means to be a Gun Rights Activist, the three essential rules governing firearms, and the advocacy for repealing the NFA. The dialogue extends to the idea of individuals being their own first responder…
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Join John and Kailey as they sit down with David Borges, the President of Sales at Matador Arms, as they discuss the government’s rules for thee and not for me approach to firearm regulations. Delve into the Bipartisan House Joint Resolution that condemned the ATF’s radical pistol brace ban. Learn more about Matador Arms: https://matadorarms.com/ -…
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To wrap up Domestic Violence month, John and Kailey sit down with Kerry Slone, the Executive Director of Education at crimeresearch.org. We emphasize women's involvement in the firearms community and the necessity of building knowledge and confidence. Our conversation also touches upon the intricacies of background checks and highlights the importa…
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The Israel-Hamas conflict has begun, and countless lives lost. Mark and Kevin discuss it a bit, before segueing into the inability of politicians to compromise, and the consequences for everyone else. Taylor Swift has movie, and Mark doesn't get it. Kevin can't help, as he doesn't get it either. There's a bit about societal norms, why suspenders ar…
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This week’s episode of State of the Second features an insightful discussion between John, Kailey, and Chase Duffey, the National Sales and Import Manager at EAA Corp. The episode offers an in-depth exploration of the ATF’s Zero Tolerance Policy, uncovering its implications for gun stores and the potential loopholes it presents. They also dive into…
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In this episode, John and Kailey are joined by Clint “Mag Dump” Morgan, the Brand Engagement Manager at Classic Firearms, one of the largest online retailers for military surplus firearms in the United States. Clint tells the story of Classic Firearms, as well as the challenges they’ve faced running a gun channel, and why he’s optimistic about thei…
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This week on State of the Second, Kailey and John sit down with VP of sales, marketing and product development of SAR Firearms, Jacob Phair. They address the full spectrum of issues and logistical considerations surrounding firearm imports, while also dissecting perceived inconsistencies within the ATF and deliberating on the potential consequences…
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Welcome to a special re-broadcast of our conversation with Deb Haaland and Sally Roesch Wagner in honor of Indigenous Peoples' Day 2023 This podcast was originally published on December 8, 2020. Deb Haaland now serves as Secretary of the Interior in the Biden Administration. She is the first Native American to serve as a Cabinet Secretary. Native A…
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When the Buddha was asked “Are you a reincarnation of God?” he replied “No.” “Are you a wizard then?” was the next query and “No” again he said. “So “What are you?” they asked, intent on knowing. He simply replied, "I am awake.” And true enough, Buddha means “the awakened one.” Buddha’s life work was teaching how to awaken. These days, however, the…
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In this episode, John and Kailey sit down with Nathan Kilburn, Senior Account Manager, and John Bohannon, Sales Director at Nine Line Apparel. Nine Line is a veteran-founded lifestyle brand, dedicated to giving back to the military and first responder communities that fought and died for our freedoms. They tell the story of how Nine Line was create…
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This week on State of the Second, Kailey and John sit down with Frankie Waddell, VP and Secretary at BattleBuddy3Gun, and Jack Smith, President at BattleBuddy3Gun.They break down the more compassionate side of the Second Amendment community and show how we can come together to make a difference for shooters who refuse to let any challenge—physical …
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Mark and Kevin discuss the latest drama in Wisconsin, Lauren Boebert's latest incident, rich businessmen who hate their employees and want them to stop feeling empowered, Boss Tweed, some logical fallacies, Donald trump (of course), and a few other items. Wisconsin Supreme Court candidates often speak out on hot topics. Only one faces impeachment t…
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In today’s very special podcast we will re-air a discussion that was originally recorded and produced by our good friends at the East-West Psychology Department of the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) for their own program, the East-West Psychology Podcast (https://east-westpsychologypodcast.com/). The discussion itself is an introdu…
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This week on State of the Second Kailey and John sit down with Adam Ruonala, the VP of Marketing and Business Development at Canik and Century Arms. They break down the latest on government overreach, import restrictions, ATF's War on Plastic, and the 1000% gun tax. Oh my! Want to help support our fight against the ATF? Grab our latest limited edit…
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Introducing The State of the Second Podcast, presented by GOA. Join Kailey and John as they pull back the curtain of the firearms industry through conversations with the community and industry leaders. We will discuss, policy, activism, and industry insights. Follow State of the Second: https://linktr.ee/stateofthesecond ------------------- Join GO…
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In this episode, we sit down with @eotechinc VP of Marketing, John Bailey. We discuss guns and games, how policy affects EOtech, and how EOtech got its start! Introducing The State of the Second Podcast, presented by GOA. Join Kailey and John as they pull back the curtain of the firearms industry through conversations with the community and industr…
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The news cycle never ceases to amaze Mark and Kevin. In this episode it's the billionaire who wants to live forever, otters attacking surfers, rich people's dogs, Threads, and Zuckerber vs Musk, in the battle of two evil billionaires, and Taylor Swift. This billionaire wants to live forever Gunfight at the O.K. Corral Deionized water Zuckerberg Vs.…
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A submarine imploded, Biden was blamed for a slow response, and obviously Trump, would have found it faster...probably by himself. The Supreme Court went crazy recently. Some people tie their self-worth to their favorite professional sports team, which Mark and Kevin find odd. The political organization, Moms for Liberty quoted Hitler in a recent n…
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Kevin spent the day of the podcast fixing things, whether broken or not, so that's how the episode starts. Mark has an encounter with a climate change denier who almost utters the words "global warming", but then catches himself in the nick of time. Unfortunately science has become a team sport, with political allegiance taking priority. New cars a…
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Major League Baseball is changing the rules. Mainly, because it kind of sucks. Pesäpallo, the national sport of Finland is kind of like baseball, but different, and cricket is confusing. Golf is even more boring than baseball. English food is pretty awful, but at least you can get any other kind of food while you're there. Some "sports" are really …
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SpaceX employees feels more calm with Musk focused on Twitter. Elon is like the man behind the curtain, desperately pulling levers. Attention seekers: Musk, MTG, George Santos, Andrew Tate, and others. Elon Musk is focused on Twitter, and his SpaceX employees feel a weight lifted off their shoulders with no Musk breathing down their necks. He and s…
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Mark and Kevin were obviously hungry and immediately began the show with a discussion of taco trucks, and food trucks in general. Kevin recalls the time when GOP strategist promised food trucks on every corner. Sadly, that never happened. Somehow the conversation morphs into a conspiracy theory about "Big Hamburger" convincing us to not like salads…
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The East Indian sage Ramana Maharshi was once asked, “How should we treat others?” He replied, “There are no others.” From the perspective of the sage, the universe is one being. It is for similar reasons that the values of respect, kinship, and love are inseparable in aboriginal culture, as are gratitude, humility, and sacred obligations to origin…
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This is the billionaire take-down episode. Elon Musk is always in the news, as is his intention. It's hard not to talk about him and his purchase of Twitter. New things come out everyday, and Mark and Kevin talk about those things once again. There's also Sam Bankman-Fried, Elizabeth Holmes, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, who thinks philanthropy …
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Mark and Kevin can't stop talking about Elon Musk. Now he's bought Twitter and now works 120 hours per week. Things don't seem to be going great at Twitter. Kyrie Irving gets in trouble and seems to double down. Billionaires can make their own reality, at least in the eyes of their supporters. Full self driving cars aren't happening anytime soon. T…
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Mark and Kevin discuss former British Prime Minister Liz Truss, dumb movies, Alex Jones and his billion dollar penalty, the origin of sin (according to the bible), Catholic night school (or is it Catholic Knight School?), and silly religious movies. There's also some Nickelback, Sharknado, SNL, and more.…
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