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Narrative Podcast

Tim Croll and Steve Gohl

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A new community where real stories matter. We are looking to encourage people to know, share, and live their best narrative. These stories shape our journey and inspire us to live out our best stories. Because real stories matter.
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Get the joke of the week along with ideas, information, and instigation to be a more playful human! If you need a little more fun, flow, and fulfillment in your life, we transform the burned-out and bored into energized and engaged Playful Humans. Rediscover the power of play, find out who is playing for a living, and learn how they pull it off to have the most fun possible in their life and career. Adulting is hard, and it’s easy to lose your way. But, you can beat burnout, quiet quitting, ...
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What happens when you mix Lego, business strategies, and playful creativity? Join us as we uncover the secrets with Tim Kroll, a seasoned business strategist and team-building expert who gained fame from season two of Lego Masters. Tim recounts his unique journey to the show, highlighting the special bond and collaborative spirit he shared with his…
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Ever wondered how to jump from a Target warehouse job to a full-time a creative career? This week, we sit down with R.Y. Givens, the innovative founder of Metamauic Entertainment, who shares his fascinating journey from the freedom and camaraderie of warehouse work to the structured confines of corporate life—and how it all led to his passion for v…
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"If the creator of the universe knows everything you're ever going to do and everything you ever might do. If you're so bad, why would he make you? Obviously, it's a rhetorical question, because, he wouldn't." - Mike Stapleton Mike had a pretty rough childhood, dealing with sexual abuse and later his parents' separation, which left him feeling a co…
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"There's something about real community. If you have real community and real friends and allies and people that understand and want to understand your story and what your life's about, that's huge." - Steve Gohl Life is not perfect for anyone. It may seem as though someone you know has it all but I promise you they too have faced hard times. What d…
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Ready to hear how being playful can supercharge your creativity? Our latest episode features the incredibly versatile Juan Punchy Gonzalez, an artist, musician, and producer, who shares his unique take on living a creatively playful life. We warm things up with some light-hearted jokes before Punchy dives into his solo musical project, "Cosmic Punc…
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"You won't profit unless you implement. And if you take the word profit out and you want to put in the word success, you won't have success unless you implement." - Vance Morris "You're going to college" said Vance Morri's parents and he didn't question it. That's what you were "supposed to do right?" Go to college, get a job, and eventually retire…
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"It's not something that I can change from my past, and I wouldn't change my past. My past has gotten me to where I'm at today." - Jen Pointer Growing up, Jen Pointer's identity was shaped by a false narrative that she had to conform to societal expectations and define herself through external achievements. She felt the pressure to follow a traditi…
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"Be the encourager for everybody. That you want for yourself." - Vinnie Fisher Vinnie Fisher has a captivating journey from a childhood marked by poverty and dysfunction to becoming a successful entrepreneur and mentor. Vinnie shared how he initially believed the false narrative that "I need to escape my family"due to his circumstances, define his …
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"Everybody has a story to tell regardless of what they look like, regardless of where they come from." - Mike Thomas Mike Thomas, a man whose journey from an emotional childhood to a purpose-driven adulthood always placed him in a position to fight for the underdog. Raised in a challenging environment, Mike's older brother, Bub, was born with Apert…
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"What does God say about me? And what God says about me is that because of Christ and what he did for me, I am good enough." - Warren Mainard Warren had an abundance of confidence that he could do anything. But when Warren's kindergarten teacher identified Warren Mainard as having dyslexia, he was forced to repeat Kindergarten. The message Warren t…
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"My true purpose, my true mission in life, is masculinity, marriage, and mindset." - Matt Clark Matt Clark shares his childhood struggles with imposter syndrome in baseball, shaped by a false narrative that he didn't measure up. Growing up Matt grappled with feelings of inadequacy which is common today due to societal pressures and the impact of so…
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"It's who I know that gets me in the door, and it's what I know that keeps me there." - Neil Twa Neil Twa shares how a false narrative of a scarcity mindset, around money, shaped his perspective on life from a young age. He saw other's with money so he just had to figure out how he could get some too. Discover how his early experiences of getting o…
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Gerry Wilson was an only child. She watched her father work 12 hour days. She saw her parents sacrifice to provide an idyllic childhood. Somehow she learned that she needed to be a good girl which meant being perfect and she didn't want to let her parents down! Gerry grew up and got married. Eveything seemed in place until her fairy-tale marriage t…
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I knew Kathy Izard's episode was worthy of revisiting. We discussed the powerful theme of "My Work Is My Identity." Kathy's early years were dominated by a high-achieving, picture-perfect family facade in Texas, where ambitions were high, and family struggles were kept behind closed doors. Discover how these early experiences forged a false narrati…
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I sat down with Gery Deer, diving into the early narratives that shaped him from a young age. Growing up surrounded by specific societal and familial expectations, Gery discusses how these early influences scripted his life in ways he didn’t initially see. Ever wonder how much of your life is shaped by what you're told you should do versus what you…
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JC Chanowsky's early years were filled with traditional Sunday dinners at his Italian Grandparent's house until upheaval struck, leaving him feeling unanchored and prone to bullying. How did a young JC navigate the chaos of constant moves and a family split? Tune in to discover the adversity that influenced his formative years. As his personal life…
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"If I do everything right, life will turn out well", this is the mentality that turned Josh into a bit of a people pleaser. Being a people pleaser is how he ended up in an unhealthy marriage. And in business, because Josh could figure things out, he noticed the expectations of him at work entailed more than just his job description. And guess what?…
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Get ready to explore the world of stand up and improv with the multifaceted Steven Morgan! You'll be hooked from the get-go with our password-themed dad joke, before diving into the delightful juggle that Steven masters daily—balancing a conventional day job with his night-time escapades in stand-up comedy and improv. His financial stability doesn'…
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Have you ever witnessed a child rebelling against their parent? Like, the more the parent says "This is the right way", the more the child continues to try to do it their way? That's kind of how Geoff Wollerman was growing up. He got the message early that you get married and find a job and that is how to find success in life. He rejected this ideo…
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When Tammy thinks back to her upbringing all she can do is offer empathy for her father. Her biological father made some very bad choices. But did that make him a bad man a bad person? Tammy knows how his parents were and understand how they shaped who he was. You have got to hear about her upbringing and things she can remember from a very early a…
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Growing up somehow Susun Finn understood that she needed to be the smartest person in the room but because she was a female, it was important not to outshine the boys. Susan got pretty smart and worked as a food scientist at a Dairy Farm. Susan ended up leaving that job to take care of her 4 children and the others who had adopted their family. Unf…
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Could the secret to peak performance lie in embracing imperfection and playfulness? Find out as I join forces with Jordana Confino in a revelatory discussion that promises to dismantle your drive for perfection and rewire your approach to success. Jordana, a former type A legal eagle turned positive psychology guru, shares her personal awakening to…
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Why narratives? Because every story matters. You know, so many people ask, "Is this a Christian podcast?" This is not the focus but what we know about personal development is that it usually includes an aspect of Spiritual, Mental, Physical, and Social growth. Some stories have a strong message from one of those areas, religion may just be easier t…
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Ever wondered how a symphony of ideas can emerge from the chaos of creativity? Angus Clark from SongDivision joins me to share the melody of innovation that resonates through improvisational music and playful songwriting. Tune in as we strike a chord with musician humor, discuss the true worth of a performance, and unveil how songwriting can be a p…
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Melissa Van Oss, watched her grandparents as she grew up, they represented the perfect couple. They complimented each other and one was never far from the other. Their example of a life long relationship became Melissa guiding light for her life. However, when she looked to her parents for that same example she saw divorce. She shared how she proce…
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How can laughter be the secret ingredient to a life of fulfillment and success? That's exactly what Connor Canine of Irishman Speaks brings to the table as he joins us to share his remarkable shift from corporate executive to motivational speaker. With the vibrancy of the Emerald Isle, Connor weaves tales of joy and the art of humor that have the p…
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Tyler Schmoll, self-proclaimed "gap filler" and human version of Curious George got vulnerable about how those personality characteristics ultimately made him close his business. Tyler had gotten good at filling the gaps, doing those things others didn't want to do. Or when things went arye, he was "Johnny On the Spot" willing to help in any way, s…
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Rob Hohmann's dad did a good job protecting his family and country, and Rob was watching. He too wanted to be a protector. He fell in love, got married, and before the year was up found himself getting a divorce. He felt like he'd gone from hero to zero. But like a true hero, he didn't give up on life and love. He learned the lesson of "What may se…
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When you grow up in abuse, neglect, and abandonment, it's easy to draw the conclusion Keegan Schaefer did. Keegan shared just a few of the injustices he suffered, as little as 2 years old. When he was 12 years old he weighed the pros and cons of continuing his Ritalin medication. It was one of the best decisions Keegan has made in his life. Keegan …
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How do you turn into a nice guy? Adam Troy grew up bigger than the other kids his age so his mom warned him not to get upset and react physically because he could hurt them. After a traumatic evening of simply wanting mac and cheese, he got what he wanted but then his house blew up with arguing and emotions. Throughout life, Adam put others first s…
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One would think that growing up with two deaf parents was not fair. Betty Galligan, our guest today, never picked up on that attitude from her parents and never experienced it herself. Betty and her siblings didn't know there was anything wrong with their parents until the rest of the world pointed it out. Her large extended family focused on what …
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On December 24th, 1995 Trunnis Goggins III was born and Trunnis Goggins II knew he needed to get his act together to provide and protect this little human who would be depending on him. Trunnis Goggin II, from Buffalo, NY, had been told from an early age that his dad's "empire" would be his. He felt like he lived in his dad's shadow. But Trunnis ha…
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Have you ever wondered what could happen if a stockbroker traded in their spreadsheets for sheet music? That's exactly what Rebecca Sue Fegan did, and the harmonious results speak—or rather, sing—for themselves. We're joined by the multitalented education professional, certified coach, and passionate musician, who shares her extraordinary journey f…
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"No Skateboards, you'll hurt yourself. No climbing trees, I don't want you to fall and get hurt. No guns in the house!" These were the rules of Drew Deraney's mom while his dad was away working to provide for the family. Little did he know, it was because of an incident in their family, that Drew's mom sheltered him so much. Drew was taught not to …
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Join us as we kick off the new year with a little laughter and the vibrant energy of Leanne Linksy, a comic genius with two decades in the game, who has innovatively tackled the world of online comedy. Discover the nuances of virtual laughter with Plauzzable, her bespoke live comedy platform designed to eliminate the dreaded audio lag and elevate a…
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What Hannah Larrew gleaned from life, growing up, is that as a woman her priorities should be to get married, have kids, and then focus on herself and her career. We discussed the pros and cons of this reality. The gift of being a wife and mom with the other side of that being sacrifice. She always felt like what she wanted to do was not as importa…
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We kick off year 4 with Ryan Ripken, former baseball player turned broadcaster and host of the Offscript with Rip podcast and the Ryan Ripken Show on YouTube. Ryan shares his unique experience growing up in a legendary baseball family and carving out his own path in the shadow of his Hall of Fame father, Cal Ripken Jr. He opens up about the realiti…
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There are two different types of people in this world, Rob Fenstermaker pointed out. He used the example of the movie Shawshank Redemption. Two men were released from prison. One, Brooks, was so comfortable with the walls that had been around him that he didn't know what to do with himself. The other character, Red, was honestly a little lost too a…
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Growing up with two high-achieving parents, Kathy Izard, naturally thought that if she too worked hard then her life would be perfect like her parents. The harsh reality was that her mother suffered from bipolar and her dad spent a lot of time taking care of her and keeping the peace. To others and apparently their children, her parent's lives seem…
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Experience a rejuvenating take on conquering burnout as Jennifer Tibidow joins us to share her expertise on this year-round challenge. Our conversation kicks off with humor and wit, yet quickly delves into the serious impacts of burnout and how embracing playfulness can be your secret weapon against stress. Jennifer, a seasoned attorney, opens up a…
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Imagine waking up in a psychiatric institution not knowing how you got there! Listen as Danny gives the accounts of his ex-wife’s cruel treatment to him. He’d been complacent and explained how he didn’t see things were taking a turn for the worst until it was too late. Had she ever loved him? But the final straw was the third gift she gave him. It …
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Have you ever considered how the world of the circus can have lessons for your productivity? Join us as we welcome the playful force of nature, Caelan Huntress, to take us on a whimsical journey, sharing his insights from acrobat to sales and marketing maverick. We explore how incorporating play into work, from virtual meetings to daily tasks, can …
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“The life you live is a lie. I have plans for you.” Michael Williams Stover II heard as he was being attacked by 6 guys when he was 19. Michael had a cruel childhood living in section 8 housing, seeing cop cars drive by not to mention the gangs. Michael's mom spokes lies into him and he believed them. When Michael’s brother was born he assumed the …
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Where are all the listeners that grew up in the country? Were your siblings your best friends? For Robert Peterson that was the case. He and his sister played together a lot due to the nearest neighbor being over a mile away. When Robert was little he went by Bobby. Little Bobby got bullied and took to heart all the terrible things the other kids s…
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Ever been on a long flight and stumbled upon a passion that would redefine your life? That's exactly what happened to our guest, Jamie Chalmers, also known as MrXStitch. He discovered the craft of cross-stitching mid-flight, finding it meditative and calming. He turned his craft into a career, becoming a celebrated figure in the world of needlework…
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"Edwina the Encourager" as she introduced herself, actually Edwina Adams. She hasn’t always been that way though. She grew up as a middle child - 8 years apart, on either end. She didn’t have much in common with them nor did she have cousins her age like her sisters did. This left her feeling alone often. And it’s funny because her family told her …
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Imagine stepping onto a stage, microphone in hand, ready to make a room full of people laugh. Sounds thrilling, right? In this episode, we're getting the inside scoop from Alfie Noakes, head honcho at the We Are Funny Project, to guide us through the exciting world of stand-up comedy. Alfie reveals how the 'comedy bug' can spark a passion for perfo…
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Some people get to grow up with pretty normal childhoods. They get to see an example of a father who works hard as the Captain of the Fire Dept. who also became Mayor but maybe plays a little too hard too, a little mother with a beautiful voice to raise you, and 4 brothers and sisters to look up to. They may not have said “I love you” all the time …
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"Pick their brains" was a phrase David's mother said to him once. This made him a curious person. He also knew he wanted to be a business owner. David was so impressed one day seeing a stack of his dad's business cards. But how was he going to get there? He also loved music so when he wasn't pursuing art, he was pursuing music. He worked with a bus…
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In the last episode we talked about false narratives holding us back from our goals. In example, if your narrative is that you don't deserve love, then when you find it you will likely end up self-sabotaging it. Jeff Wickersham knows this "game." His false narrative was that he didn't matter. He really struggled to identify his self-worth. So when …
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