What are the evangelical messages around sex, desire, spirituality, and beauty actually doing to us and our children? Sheila Wray Gregoire shares research on this question, and offers healthy, Jesus-centered alternatives. We also hash out social media conversations, celebrity, and much more. Find more from Rebekah at The Kingdom Outpost. Her articl…

Once again, we dive into Judges, and think about how the mighty Gideon fell from faith to cowardly idolatry. But first: a recap of what we’ve been reading lately, and corny poems for spring. I mentioned Scribd at the top of the episode - it's a better-than-Audible audiobook and ebook platform. Use my referral link to get two free months: scribd.com…

This week, I drag @WalterRothbard off Twitter and into a wide-ranging conversation on political theory, marriage, and anger. David (real last name not disclosed) has an amazing testimony of the transforming power of Christ's peace over anger. We get into some turbulent waters as we consider critiques against an author that David has benefited from …

Lisl and I are excited to kick off a new season (era? reboot?) of That Jesus Podcast! After the usual navel-gazing, we pick up with the book of Judges, exploring the rise of Gideon. Does God want us to demand signs before we act? Is cowardice a sin? Did Gideon make noise with a ram's horn or with a trumpet? Tune in to find out. You can catch up on …

What is liturgy? Are written prayers a form of “vain repetition” or a tool to avoid that rut? An Anglican pastor joins Dru to discuss this and more, along with friend-of-the-pod Kimberly Witmer! Check out Dave's church: www.cotcboston.org A great resource for the Daily Office on phone or computer: www.dailyoffice2019.com Reach out on WhatsApp: 1.21…

Francis is departing in peace.

Tis the season for pumpkin spice and, err, spicy interviews? Sheila Wray Gregoire joined us to rescue sex from the unbiblical errors that often permeate Christian messages. Whether married or single, this conversation provides helpful insight into God's design for sexuality, along with practical pointers for growing in intimacy. Check out Sheila's …

David Carlson joins us again, this time sharing his journey in memorizing Scripture as a spiritual discipline. But first, The Cohost dreams about Dru and we discuss the ethics of AirSoft rifles. Tune in after the end for a few minutes of liturgy with David, from the book of Genesis. Resources mentioned in this episode: https://www.amazon.com/His-Wo…

It's episode 100 folks! The cohosts begin by discussing eternal conscious torment since it's just that time of the year. Then, Dr. Barbara L. Peacock joined us to talk about spiritual formation and soul care from a historic African American perspective. Dr. Peacock's ministry: https://www.barbaralpeacock.com Dr. Peacock's school: https://www.peacoc…

We are back with Season Five! In this episode, we talked about an article that was recently published in the Kingdom Outpost by one of the hosts on the pursuit of pleasure in Christ. Paradoxically, discipline may be the path to spiritual euphoria. Link to the article: https://kingdomoutpost.org/sacred-euphoria…

We are wrapping up Season 4 and looking forward to the next chapter of the podcast!

Styles of parenting have a way of stirring up conflict like few other things. Perhaps that’s because parenting is so real. We’ve all been parented - for better or worse - and many of us are parents. Most of us will be - again, for better or worse. In today’s episode, we have Patricia Lewis on to share about an alternative to the traditional fundame…

This episode was worth the wait: Dru talks with David Carlson, who recently achieved “Twitter virality” for his parody of what he calls “patriarchal theobros.” But that conversation is just the warm-up. Dru and David talk theological formation, devotional life, and how creativity can draw us to God.That’s not all, folks: Before we get to David, Tit…

Titus was invited onto Clubhouse for a debate on Christian pacifism. Enjoy!

We're back with another look at Judges - this time, we explore four judges from chapters 3-5. Why does God keep testing Israel? Was Barack a judge, a coward, or just a guy that God used? And what is the ACTUAL melody for the children's song with Shamgar in it? Join the conversation by texting or sending a voice message on WhatsApp. Dru's number is …

Dru and Lisl begin a study in the Old Testament book of Judges. It's a bit different from our usual fare, but quite possibly worth a listen! They discuss genocide, the sovereignty of God, and how fast a person could run without their big toes. Join the conversation by texting or sending a voice message on WhatsApp. Dru's number is 218.353.1725. You…

What kind of Apocalypse do you believe in? Are you premil, amil, preterist, or just a panmillenialist? Our guest explains why most eschatology systems miss the point of John’s revelation. It’s really good stuff.Before the good stuff though, Titus and Dru talk about prayer retreats and longform prayer. Dru rants about panmillenialism and forgets the…

This week, we (sorta?) field questions from our audience, except those that Titus doesn't like. Dru edits out the stuff that is especially egregious - so what's left? The cult of domesticity, Hutterites, small businesses, and a bit on the end of Acts. If you listen very closely, you might just hear a cry for help. Reach out on FB at: facebook.com/t…

Without Titus around, Dru manages to ramble through a conversation with a couple Midwesterners: Packy Sporre and Tim Lattin talk about their experiences with the Mennonite church and community, before diving into an ill-fated discussion on gun control. Like all our episodes, this is a conversation, and there's more to be said. Let us know what you …

Alright, this one is intense. Dr. Baxter is an intellectual mystic (not a contradiction of terms) who joined us to for an extremely packed interview about Christian mysticism (also not a contradiction of terms). Just give it a shot. Jason's work: https://www.jasonmbaxter.com

Into the yawning void caused by a lack of guys yammering about abortion on podcasts, Dru and Titus nobly step into the gap. Listen in for confessions of childhood dream jobs, the perfect wedding, and some heartfelt reflection on how Jesus people should respond to restrictions on abortion. Dru also rants about stare decisis and flat Bibles. We warml…

It's Episode 87 of That Jesus Podcast and we finally got around to talking about Jesus! In this edition of the show, Titus struggles to describe some misgivings he has about how much Christians talk a lot about issues relating to Jesus and his church but often seem to miss centering on Jesus himself.…

Is social media the greatest tool for evangelism since Pentecost? Is it shallow noise that makes us feel good about being connected without making a difference? Or, in the words of Titus, is social media the devil? Joash Thomas knows a thing or two about social media and he joins Dru to answer this question once and for ALL. Or, at least share some…

Francis is back from his trip and has some harrowing stories to tell. God was teaching him and the rest of the team how to trust in the Father and that things are not actually in our control. Support us! https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast

How should Christians view authority and leadership in the church? How do we faithfully navigate the complexities of power structures? Responding to the heartbreaking reality of abuse of power in the church, Jon Carlson, pastor of Forest Hills Mennonite Church and Moderator-Elect of Mennonite Church USA, joins Dru and Rebekah for a discussion drawi…

With Titus recovering from his trip to India, the Midwesterners took over this episode to talk about entertainment, evil, and the power of story. Let us know what you think by reaching out on Facebook, WhatsApp, or on our Anchor page - we’d love to hear from you.Find bonus segments at our Patreon: patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast…

Our very own Reverend Dru Lattin has become widely known for his propensity toward nuance. In order to set him straight, we invited Emily Smucker to share her thoughts about the famous Mennonite ditch analogy. Why do we always think we are in the middle of the road and everyone else is in the ditch? Is moderation and balance a Christian virtue? Tun…

Rebekah Mui helped us interview Dr. Drew G. I. Hart, an activist, author, and professor, about critical race theory (CRT). Is CRT simply Marxist propaganda? Is it contrary to the Gospel and a Christian worldview? Tune in to hear Dr. Hart offer an informed historic perspective and tie in the importance of working to see justice for the marginalized.…

We are back with Season 4 of That Jesus Podcast! Dru & Titus catch up a bit and discuss their devotional lives and current ministry opportunities. Then, Austin Lapp joins Titus to discuss how followers of King Jesus are formed into the image of their King. SPOILER: it involves not staring at your phone so much (like you are doing right now). Austin…

We look back at a few of our favorite episodes from Season Three, and share about our plans going forward. Titus again brings up his snoring bulldogs and Dru manages to sneak the word "epistemology" into a Christmas rant - twice. Vintage TJP. Don't forget to fill out our Listener Survey: forms.gle/sQagkHjkw57eNcc26…

It looks like Roe v Wade might get overturned next year thanks to Trump's Supreme Court nominations! Was Titus wrong all along for opposing white evangelicals' support of the Donald? Tune in to hear this and more current events discussed like the trial of Arbery's killers and the saga of a contested Confederate battle flag. Then, we discussed how i…

Kimberly Kirtz, from Sattler College, joins Dru and Patrick to discuss all things college: Who should go? Are universities dens of wickedness? What about debt? And is Sattler the best option for everyone ever? More about Sattler College here: sattlercollege.org

Justice is such an important part of the restoration of God's rule on earth. Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost. The three guests were our very own Francis, Derek Kreider of the Fourth Way Podcast, and Joash Thomas, who is Canada's national director for the International Justice Mission, the la…

Mennopolls is at it again, showing some of the dark underside of the conservative Anabaptism world. 10% of conservative Anabaptists seem to be okay with using the n-word to refer to black people. Titus rants about this despicable reality and a very white Dru adds his privileged perspective. Then, Titus makes a case for baptismal regeneration and Dr…

Dru and Titus discuss their experiences with observing the Lord's Table and tackle some practical questions about how we celebrate. But first, Titus entraps Dru into talking about CRT and racism and Dru admits he is white. Also, Dru admits he is white. We'd LOVE your feedback on this topic, or anything else! Reach out on our Facebook with @thatjesu…

After catching up on the latest news about hundred-year-old Nazis, hundred-year-old priests, and 500 year old boats, we discuss Halloween and eating blood. Then, at 33:45, Dru talks ESL ministry with Sam, a veteran instructor passionate about using English teaching as a tool to fulfill the Great Commission. Asia's Center for TESOL: actesol.comReach…

Anthony Witmer, a friend from Francis' church, joined us to talk about the kidnapping of CAM workers in Haiti and the implications of using the term missionary to describe kingdom work overseas. Then we interviewed Gary Miller about his latest book: Reaching America. Reaching America: https://tgsinternational.com/product/reaching-america/ Support u…

Abram Martin joins us to report on his experience at the Revoice Conference. While Abram passionately shares about discipleship and diversity in the church, Dru and Titus try to distract him with apostrophes, John MacArthur slams, and snoring bulldogs. Some resources from Abram: What comes after the Ex-Gay Movement? Gay vs. Same Sex Attraction You …

It's Indigenous Peoples’ Day! Holly Helton, a member of the Ojibwe tribe, joined us to talk about the fraught relationship of Christianity with indigenous peoples throughout history. But before that, we covered some very morbid pieces of news and Pastor Dru cured Titus’ mental health issues. Our patreon where you can sow and reap mere health and we…

In this packed edition of TJP, Dru shares a convo with Stephen Russell from Faith Builders about Scripture. They touch on the history of the church, tradition, community, and using the Chronicles of Narnia in family devotions. But before the interview, the crew has it out about religious exemptions for vaccines and Rebekah shares her latest opus on…

Keeshon Washington and Emily Smucker joined us to discuss the potential benefits of consuming fiction, Josh McDowell's racist remarks and subsequent resignation, and how to effectively share the love of Jesus in the post-Christian West. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus' creative genius at work in our new segment jingles. Keeshon's blog: ht…

Dru and Emily review the disastrous consequences of fasting while driving, and then talk with Luci Kinsinger about her new book, Turtle Heart. We discuss boundaries and sacrifice in ministry, developing genuine relationships, not being a jerk about racism, and much more.Check out Turtle Heart here: lucindajkinsinger.com/turtle-heart-release/You can…

Joshua Lloyd Parker joined us to help Titus push back a bit on Dru's appearance with Joel Nisly on Strength to Strength. We talked about the IHOP-KC movement and discussed whether or not something is missing in our churches if we are not experiencing the supernatural. If you have an interpretation for Titus' tongues at the beginning of the episode …

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Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost with Dru Lattin, Tim Whittaker, and Jon Carlson. They discussed Christian nationalism, nonviolence, and more. We will be back next week with some fresh content!

Today: A conversation about the so-called New Apostolic Reformation. But first, Titus complains about boogeymen and shares a supernatural experience of his own. The original discussion with Joel Nisly and Dru was hosted by Strength to Strength, a community that seeks to advance the Kingdom through sharing teaching, convos, and testimonies. Check ou…

We discussed Titus' experience of revival at Kingdom Fellowship Weekend, the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan, Biden's blasphemies, and more. Then we were joined by a few of our friends--Emily Smucker, Kristi Mast, Tim Kuepfer, and Jon Quesenberry--to hear about their devotional lives. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus sing a powerful line of …

Dru and Titus provide empowering thought leadership around superstition, lightning strikes, and the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. Then, Stephen Russell shares his journey from Catholicism to embracing non-violence and joining the Beachy Amish. Steve's book: https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Evil-Gods-Way-Nonresistance/dp/0981656900/ref=sr_1_2?Th…

If you ever get past deciphering the title you are in for a real treat today. Our friends Rebekah and Christopher joined us to push back on Titus' insensitivity in the last episode. We went long, just like your deconstruction should (unless you believe in reconstruction like Dru). Check out our sponsors: creativedesignsbyfern.com…

Matthew has a few thoughts.