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Crue Trime: A True Crime Podcast

Savannah Smith and Maddi Davis

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Welcome to Crue Trime where two crime obsessed best friends discuss all things murder and macabre. Join us every Monday for your healthy dose of true crime! EXPLICIT CONTENT | Cover art created by Shadrach Darger | Intro and Outro music created by Key Johnson | Twitter: @CrueTrime | Instagram: @cruetrimepodcast | Email: cruetrimetruecrime@gmail.com
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Keeping a positive energy throughout; our TRiME Hats & Clothing team plan to help small businesses, start ups, and regular dreamers build off of collective ideas with positive promotional clothing and marketing strategies, all while building Trust, Respect, Inspiration, Motivation, and Education.
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Prison Mindfulness

Prison Mindfulness Institute

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Prison Mindfulness Podcast for those bringing mindfulness and transformational contemplative practices to underserved populations. Our nonprofit focuses on teaching mindfulness in prisons, jails, and all those impacted by the criminal justice system.
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From the Teaching Mindfulness Summit April 24. Meditation, mindfulness, and self-compassion. Mindfulness and self-compassion teaching methods. Trust, intuition, and teaching wisdom. Christopher Germer, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and lecturer on psychiatry (part-time) at Harvard Medical School. He co-developed the Mindful Self-Compassion (MSC…
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In this episode, Chia-Ti Chiu talks with Vita Pires about her work with Lineage Project. Embodying a trauma-conscious and resilience-based methodology Unpacking privilege, biases, and blind spots The evolution of the Lineage Project CHIA-TI CHIU (she/her) Chia-Ti has been working with the Lineage Project since 2009. As a senior teacher, she shares …
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In this episode, John MacAdams talks with Garth Smelser about his experiences working with both incarcerated individuals as a chaplain and as a mindfulness trainer for corrections professionals. Stepping into the alien environment of custody Relating to inmates, relating to security staff What’s important about training corrections professionals JO…
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In this episode, Martine Batchelor talks with Vita Pires about her experiences working with those in prisons and teaching Secular Buddhism. Developing the path of secular Buddhism Practices for fear and anxiety Working with those who have resistance to meditation and/or (seemingly) don't care about the consequences of actions MARTINE BATCHELOR Mart…
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In this episode, Matthew Hahn talks with cohost John MacAdams about his experiences with mindfulness while incarcerated and his work post-incarceration as a facilitator for Mindful Prisons. The value of creating safe spaces What happens after volunteers leave the facility Full circle, returning to Folsom Prison to teach the Dharma MATTHEW HAHN Matt…
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In this episode, Richard Shankman talks with Vita Pires about his experiences teaching meditation in California prisons in the 1970s and how that has influenced his work to date. Early days (1970s) of contemplative programs in California Prisons Working with Youth (mindful schools) Importance of humility and ‘not knowing’ mindset when working with …
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In this episode, Jonah M. David talks with John MacAdams about his experiences volunteering and facilitating creative arts workshops in men's and women's prisons. Creative Arts programming; Giving a voice to the unseen The challenges of long-term artistic collaborations with inmates Personal growth from the wisdom found inside the walls JONAH M. DA…
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In this episode, Trime Persinger speaks with John MacAdams about her work as a prison chaplain with the Oregon Department of Corrections. Seeing Yourself and Loving Well in prison work. Stable, Caring Presence: providing environments where practice can flourish behind bars. Mindful Communication: the program, how it started, and what happened when …
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In this episode, Bill Brown talks with Vita Pires, about his work with the Prison Yoga Project. The harm punitive incarceration causes for the incarcerated, staff, and families. Working with the body to discharge unresolved trauma Yoga as a tool for tapping into embodied wisdom BILL BROWN, C-IAYT, Bill is the Executive Director of Prison Yoga Proje…
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In this episode, Micah Anderson speaks with Fleet Maull about his experiences working with incarcerated youth through the Mind Body Awareness Project. 3 steps for creating safety while facilitating training/workshops Barriers to using a curriculum with traumatized youth Importance of partnerships for sustainable support for youth parolees MICAH DAV…
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In this episode, Liz Richardson talks with Fleet Maull about her new play, Unconfined. Her play, based on a real-life story of an incarcerated prisoner’s contemplative journey while in prison and on death row Drawing parallels between this prisoner’s experience and her voluntary, 3-year confinement at Gampo Abbey retreat Contemplating beliefs of wh…
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In this episode, Lama Justin von Bujdoss talks with Vita Pires about his experiences working as a chaplain for the New York City Department of Corrections. Shadow sides of working in prisons Limitations of mindfulness work for highly traumatized populations (the incarcerated and correctional staff) How to do this work in a culturally sensitive and …
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In this episode, Gabriella Savelli talks with Fleet Maull about her work with the International Association for Human Values. The International Association of Human Values (IAHV) program-reducing offender recidivism The impact of secular breath-work on prisoners and prison staff Actualizing networks of programs with different modalities for positiv…
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In this episode, Jared Seide talks with John MacAdams about his work as the Executive Director for the Center for Council. What Council looks like inside prisons How Council embodies mindfulness and supports compassion Benefits of learning presence, resisting distraction, and speaking/listening from the heart JARED SEIDE Jared Seide is author of th…
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In this episode, Rebecca Foster talks with Vita Pires, about her experiences bringing PMI's Path of Freedom training into prisons. Training “Inside” apprentices (facilitator training for incarcerated men & women) Integrating laughter, movement & play into the classroom The transformative power of social meditation “Inside” REBECCA J FOSTER Rebecca …
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In this episode, Kalen McAllister speaks with Fleet Maull about Laughing Bear Bakery, and the resources and opportunities it gives those who are formerly incarcerated. Starting “The Laughing Bear Bakery” business focused on employing ex-prisoners on parole (https://laughingbearbakery.org/) The barriers and rewards to starting a business of this nat…
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In this episode, Roshi Fleet Maull talks with John MacAdams about his time incarcerated and the creation of the Prison Mindfulness Institute (Prison Dharma Network). Origins of Prison Dharma Network The only real choice; "Practice like my hair was on fire" Unending opportunities to serve the world on the outside FLEET MAULL Fleet Maull, PhD is an a…
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In this episode, Venerable De Hong talks with Vita Pires about his work with the Engaged Buddhist Alliance, providing programs in facilities and through correspondence courses. How Buddhist Psychology supports Insight Development & Trauma Healing Working with those serving life (or LWOP) sentences Developing correspondence curriculums VENERABLE DE …
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In this episode, Marshall Lane talks with Fleet Maull on his experiences with addiction and incarceration and his life post-incarceration, focusing on his work with Tiffany's Recovery Inc. The complexities of recovering from addiction in prison and the role meditation can play Taking responsibility and shifting self-blame/shame from the past to cre…
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In this episode, Carmen Alonso talks with John MacAdams about her experiences facilitating PMI's Path of Freedom program. Connecting incarcerated folks with the outside community through each group taking PMI’s Path of Freedom course and writing to each other Working in supermax and maximum security environments Cultivating humility and patience as…
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In this episode, Gail Jackson speaks with Sandy Inkster about her experiences working as a probation and parole officer, and her work with drumming and sound immersion. Mindfulness Inside: Point of view of a parole/probation officer/certified mindfulness teacher Drumming, gongs and sound immersion: how it helps ground both prisoners and those worki…
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In this episode, Dave Smith talks with Vita Pires, about his work in prisons and recovery groups. What is the Secular Path of Dharma? Prison work as service work. Training in mindfulness-based emotional intelligence in prisons and recovery groups. DAVID M SMITH Dave Smith is an internationally recognized Buddhist meditation teacher, addiction treat…
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In this episode, Michael Yellow Bird speaks with Fleet Maull about his experiences working with indigenous youth, and his research focused on "Neurodecolonization". The systemic impacts of Colonization and abolishing indigenous sacred meditative practices “Neurodecolonization” The conceptual mindfulness framework and healing trauma in incarcerated,…
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In this episode, Leslie Booker speaks with cohost Julie Paquette about her time working with incarcerated youth. “What do we do about it?” The inspiration to truly see the unseen The process of developing trust “The function of freedom is to free someone else" LESLIE BOOKER Booker is a Buddhist Meditation Teacher, Writer and Lover of Liberation. Sh…
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In this episode, Michal Warshavsky speaks with Vita Pires, about her work bringing mindfulness practices to Israeli prisons and rehab centers through "The Quiet Within". Working within a deeply divided society with Israeli/Palestinian prisoners Developing paths for more prisoners to be actively involved in class presentations The power of a bi-ling…
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In this episode, Kim Grose Moore speaks with John MacAdams about her work as executive director of the GRIP Training Institute. Leaving prison before you get out: A year of deep transformation The power of accountability and forgiveness for those sentenced to custody (and for all of us) Maintaining program integrity, consistency and impact while sc…
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In this episode, Dr. Sam Himelstein speaks with Fleet Maull about his work with the Center for Adolescent Studies and his experiences with incarcerated youth. The impact of having positive and supportive role models for incarcerated youth The pros and cons of tech programs and apps for mindfulness Authenticity and predictability as a foundation for…
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In this episode, Robina Courtin speaks with Vita Pires, about her correspondence work with prisoners and her experiences with the Liberation Prison Project. Knowing the nature of the mind: the path of dharma inside The power of learning dharma through the mail with a prison pen pal “You could sit through a month of fiction films and not come across…
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In this episode, Rev. Dr. Michael Christie speaks with John MacAdams about his experiences starting as a volunteer and then as an employed chaplain and supervisor working for the Connecticut Department of Corrections. Moving from volunteer to full-time professional in prison How each volunteer’s self-awareness is essential to being impactful in pri…
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In this episode, Venerable Thubten Chodron speaks with Fleet Maull about her work with Sravasti Abbey and her experiences providing resources and support for incarcerated individuals. The transformative nature of compassion when working with incarcerated individuals The importance of diversity in the Buddhist teaching groups offered to prisoners. O…
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In this episode, Sita Lozoff and Erin Parish talk with Vita Pires, about the past, present, and future of the Human Kindness Foundation. How the Human Kindness Project began in 1973 Nurturing the creative spirit “inside” Offering opportunities for prisoners and former prisoners ways to share their wisdom ERIN PARISH Erin Parish is the Executive Dir…
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In this episode, Bernard Moss speaks with Fleet Maull about his experiences with incarceration, learning alternatives to violence, and his work with the GRIP program. The rationale behind engaging in violence and a gangster lifestyle Shifting value systems - from violence to peace-making Creating safety for transformation through the GRIP program B…
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Shout out to our listener of the week Rusty Blonch Jr! This week Mads tells us the story of "The Gorilla Man" aka "The Gorilla Killer" aka "The Dark Strangler". A kid from the early early 1900s who experienced a terrible childhood accident that made an array of behavioral issues even worse. At a young age, Earle went on to live of life of violence …
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TRIGGER WARNING THIS EPISODE : This episode contains brutal rapes/murders to young children and wanted to give the heads up to those who may need it! This week Mads tells us about Donald Henry Parrot better known as Pee Wee Gaskins, a man who is as small as you would think but not quite as Disney as you would think. With 15 confirmed murders and 90…
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Welcome to the short story of Benjamin Atkins. Serial Killer who had a rough start that led to a rough middle that led to a rough fuckin end. Targeting prostitutes, Benjamin went on a spree of sorts leading him to be considered Americas fastest serial killer. We love you guys, thanks again for all of your love and support and we hope you have a goo…
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This week we are back at it with Mads telling us about Herbert Mullin, a serial killer in California during the 1970s. A religious zealot trying to prevent Armageddon, but what if it was all in his head? This episode we talked a lot about mental health as its something we all deal with and a lot of us really struggle with, Our hiatus has been reall…
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This week Mads shares with us the story of the Speed Freak Killers, 2 meth addicts who went on long roadtrips/meth binges and made really horrible choices which unfortunately included murder. Loren Herzog and Wesley Shermantine started out as childhood best friends who developed into a team of killers with no consistent method or location. Also we'…
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Sorry for the lack of episode last week guys! This week we get into the Hillside Stranglers, killing in California during the 70s. 2 cousins who did a lot of horrible things on their own but the things they would do together? Fucking yikes. Enjoy this weeks episode as we get ridiculously drunk and find out exactly what kind of awful shit these dude…
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This week our listener of the week is all of you! We've had so much fun putting out the last 27 episodes and we're so stoked to have all of you on the other end, so thank you all! Mads tells us the story of classic American serial killer William (or Bill) Suff, a man who initially has us thinking hes some sort of stand up guy but then quickly loses…
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This week our listener Alan recommended Winnie Ruth Judd, The Trunk Murderess, an early 1900s woman with tuberculosis and a baby obsession. As you can imagine some drama is bound to stir up when your secret love affair not only has a wife, but at least 2 other mistresses. Those other mistresses? Your best friends. Your best friends? Dead in some tr…
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This week is part 2 of killers who fed people their victims and the story Mads shares had us gagging the whole way through. Leonarda Cianciulli, born in the late 1800s, had a tragic childhood and moving into adulthood things only seemed to get worse. Curses, palm readings, the deaths of 13 out of 17 children?? If your family had been cursed, would …
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This week we were inspired by Ellies request for Joe Metheny, a story about a human hamburger serving killer (mini episode coming later) that inspired the topic of killers who fed people their victims meat. Savs story is about Armin Miewes, a German computer technician in his 40s who happened to really want to try some human meat and of course what…
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Back from Cancun and drunk talking about shitty moms! This week Mads tells us about Diane Staudte, a woman with no shame and now basically no family. Not only does this woman end up murdering half her immediate family for reasons that baffle us, but theres so many unexpected twists so buckle up! We also want to shout out Nate and Aidyn, our listene…
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This week Savs covering the story of murderous mother Casey Anthony, suggested to us by loyal listener Kam! First we want to apologize in advance and let you guys know there will not be an episode the next 2 weeks as we will be taking a much needed break in CANCUN!! In this weeks story, Sav tells us about Casey Anthony and her 2 year old daughter C…
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This week we have Mads telling us all about the falsely accused teenagers known as The West Memphis Three, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. The West Memphis Three were accused of murdering 3 young boys in their area, Stevie Branch, Christopher Byers, and Michael Moore. The boys bodys were found naked, bound, and bloody in a w…
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This week was going to be 2 stories as usual, 1 from Sav and 1 from Mads but it seems our stories just keep getting longer and longer and no it’s not just because we keep getting drunk and going off on tangents 👀 So we’ve decided to split this heart wrenching episode of the falsely accused into another 2 parter, check back next week for Mads tellin…
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We missed you guys last week but hope you had the most enjoyable holidays! We are back at it this week with Sav covering Jeffrey Dahmer. This episode could have gone on for hours based on all the fucking crazy shit Dahmer did in his life, however an hour seemed long enough to talk about this mans truly horrific crimes which were committed over the …
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This episode comes to you as another 2 parter with the topic of killers who keep body parts from their victims, ew fucking nast. This week Mads shares the absolutely horrific and awful details of the murders committed by Dennis Nilsen. Dennis Nilsen committed his crimes in London in the late 70s/early 80s, picking up gay men from bars and train sta…
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