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Welcome to Until Saturday, The Athletic's NEW college football podcast. This is your home for everything college football. Join Ari Wasserman, David Ubben, Nicole Auerbach, Max Olson, Chris Vannini, Sam Khan Jr., and The Athletic's CFB staff as they break down the game we all love.
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Everything you need to know about college football recruiting in 2024 (so far)
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The dead period has arrived, which presents a great opportunity for Ari Wasserman, Mitch Light, and Manny Navarro to fill you in on everything you need to know about college football recruiting in 2024 through June. From Kalen DeBoer's impressive start enlisting high school talent into the Alabama ranks to Rutgers' and Memphis' hot starts (and USC'…
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David's burning CFB thoughts while on paternity leave: EA Sports CFB 25, best new coaching hire & more!
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A sleep deprived, but exuberant, David Ubben returns to Until Saturday! He joins Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini in New York while in New York for a company event. David has been champing at the bit to share his thoughts about recent college football news and developments since being on paternity leave, including EA Sports College Football 25, the …
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Reasonable & unreasonable expectations for Alabama, Michigan & more of CFB's most interesting teams with Ralph Russo
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What are reasonable and unreasonable expectations for fanbases of some of college football's most interesting teams? Ari Wasserman is joined by The Athletic's Kennington Smith III and Ralph Russo of the Associated Press to solve what rational, and irrational, benchmarks Alabama, Michigan, Colorado, Clemson, and more should hit this season. Kenny an…
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The Allstate 12?! Biggest trap games & Notre Dame vibe check with Jessica Smetana
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Chris Vannini and Ari Wasserman discuss reports of the Big 12 and CUSA, among other conferences, exploring private equity investment and selling the naming rights to their conferences. Does the Allstate 12 roll off the tongue? Later, special guest Jessica Smetana, co-host of The Dan Le Betard Show and Notre Dame alumnus, hops on Until Saturday to s…
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BIGGEST Pressure Cooker Games of 2024 + Top 5 College Football 25 teams we can't wait to play as
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We are less than 100 days from the start of the college football season! Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini pinpoint the year's biggest 'pressure cooker games', or the matchups that will draw the strongest overreactions from either fanbase and send supporters into a tizzy. Would the losing party in LSU-USC lose faith in their head coach after a season…
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Is Georgia or Michigan's title blueprint harder to replicate + Who REALLY won the 2020 recruiting class?
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Which national championship model is harder to emulate: Georgia's or Michigan's? Ari Wasserman and Max Olson thoroughly mull over Rodrigo A's fan-submitted question. Which programs could model themselves after either champions? Max went through the arduous task of re-ranking the 2020 recruiting class in an effort to see who REALLY won it. What did …
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Is Red River the BEST SEC rivalry? + Tier list of top weeks 1-3 games
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Chris Del Conte, athletic director at the University of Texas, gave the college football world a gem last week while on the Paul Finebaum Show. There he exclaimed just how great the Red River Shootout is compared to its new conference mates' rivalry games. So, is Texas-Oklahoma the BEST SEC rivalry game? Ari Wasserman, Max Olson, and Scott Dochterm…
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ELITE Nick Saban stories, Alabama's standard + ex-player on CFB evolution with Damien Harris
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Former stud Alabama running back and NFL vet Damien Harris joins Chris Vannini on today's show! Damien opens up about how his family and newborn son have helped him weather his difficult transition out of the NFL following a scary injury last season with the Buffalo Bills. He also weaves some hilarious and insightful stories about Nick Saban, his f…
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We PLAYED NCAA 25! Gameplay, features & more with EA Sports' Ben Haumiller & Christian McLeod
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The rumors are true, we PLAYED EA Sports College Football 25...well, Chris Vannini did (Ari Wasserman definitely isn't jealous). While at a function hosted by EA Sports in Orlando, Chris had a first-account of what the gameplay is like; from the revamped running and passing mechanics to the pagentry and electric in-game atmostphere. Chris walks us …
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Describing EVERY Big 12 team in one word + What House vs NCAA approval means
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In the NEW Big 12, the one with 16 teams, separation between teams is infinitesimal. There are seven teams (nearly half the league) that are within one O/U win total of each other (per BetMGM). Sam Khan Jr. and Justin Williams use one word to describe each of the 16 conference teams to deliniate where each team is at this season. But before then, J…
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Is Florida State an outlier, or the new gold standard for team building? with Mike Norvell
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Florida State head football coach Mike Norvell joins Ari Wasserman to discuss the Seminoles' approach to team building. Does Norvell believe his team's portal to high school recruiting ratio is a recipe for success? Is it sustainable? Manny Navarro, The Athletic's AuFlority, then hops on the mic to breakdown Norvell's roster construction from a ana…
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EA Sports NCAA 25 features + trailer reveal! How NIL and the portal REALLY work: Players, coaches & agents weigh in
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Ari, Chris and Max share their instant reactions to the first EA Sports NCAA 25 trailer! Chris also shares what features fans can expect in the game. You may think you know how the transfer portal and NIL works, but Manny Navarro, Chris Vannini, and Ari Wasserman tells you how it REALLY works. Manny, Chris, and several other The Athletic reporters …
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Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains + Baylor's bet on Dave Aranda & coaching timelines
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One of Until Saturday's most dedicated listeners, Sad Husker Nate, did it again. He left another gem of a question for Ari Wasserman, Sam Khan Jr., and Mitch Light on the Until Saturday Phone Line (316-462-9852): Who's on our Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains? The trio go meta with some of their choices (like the Pac-12's cognoscenti that destroyed th…
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Where was Ari wrong (and right) in his Post-Spring Top 25? + Brian Kelly and NIL overreaction
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We asked you, Until Saturday and college football fans alike, to weigh in on Ari Wasserman's Post-Spring Top-25 rankings. Ari takes fan feedback on his list as well as input from Chris Vannini, who joins him on today's show. Why was Utah ranked so low? Was a Group of 5 team considered, and a fan thinks Ari's story was DISGUSTINGLY...rational? Plus,…
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Post-Spring Top-25 Rankings Reveal + Breakdown with Dan Wetzel
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Ari Wasserman is joined by Max Olson and Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports sports writer extraordinaire and 1/3 of the 'College Football Enquirer' podcast, to discuss his post-spring top-25 rankings. Which teams are ranked too high, too low, not at all? We want to hear your thoughts about Ari's rankings, so call the Until Saturday phone line and leave a voi…
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Are Colorado & Deion CFB's biggest villains? + Top players in 2024
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A vortex of social media activity ensued after Tuesday's podcast with Max Olson (which can be found in your feed). Multiple ex-Colorado players spoke with Max about their experience being cut from the program when Deion Sanders took over, and those thoughts were shared on this show. Since then, Deion and Shedeur Sanders have responded to some of th…
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What happened to Colorado's castoffs? Miami & Auburn's portal splashes
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What happened to Colorado's players that weren't deemed to be Louis? Max Olson takes us behind the scenes of 20 Buffaloes players that were cast off when Deion Sanders took over the Boulder based program. Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini then discuss the buzz about a Group of 5 playoff. Is a postseason imminent for the G5? What's incoming AAC commis…
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Is the NFL terrified of next year's CFB QBs? Changing college football history & Reggie Bush justice
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Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini sat down right after the NFL Draft to share their biggest takeaways from Thursday night. Michael Penix Jr. and Atlanta is a curious case, but the dude can rip the football. J.J. McCarthy left an impression on Ari as a teenager in high school, but will his spunk and skillset translate? Bo Nix, Penix, and McCarthy all …
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NFL Draft prospects vs CFB eye test + Spring games observations with Bruce Feldman
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Ari Wasserman welcomes Bruce Feldman to the podcast ahead of the NFL Draft to analyze prospects he believes are polarizing based on their body of work in college. Ari questions Michigan QB's J.J. McCarthy's draft stock, which has soared to astronomical heights. Bruce shares his opinion as well as that NFL sources and CFB head coaches to provide a c…
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Portal intel & Colorado's sneaky smart move + Notre Dame's high expectations in 2024
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The spring portal continues to rewrite the record books. Max Olson joins Ari to contextualize data, trends, and share his portal intel. Shilo Sanders' social media post directing transfers to message him or his brother, Shedeur, drew skepticism from college football fans. Was too much made of Sanders' invitation? Ari believes so, while Max thinks t…
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The Spring Portal begins, but do fans love or hate it? + Alabama and Georgia spring recap
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The spring transfer window opened Tuesday morning, and players flooded the system. The number of entrants were over double that of last year's opening day. There are new reasons for fans to be excited and loathsome of the portal, but what's the consensus? Do fans love or hate the spring window? Ari and Chris discuss the pros and cons of the structu…
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Spring transfer portal preview + Will Drew Allar & Penn St. make the leap?
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April 16 marks the beginning of the college football spring transfer window. And, according to some, it will be the most chaotic spring portal period to date. Ari, Chris, and the Portal Authority, Max Olson, prepare you for next week's barrage of player movement by identifying which teams are likely to be the most active (Alabama and Washington, am…
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CFB realignment that makes sense, Is Quinn Ewers the Heisman favorite? + Impact Freshmen
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In the wake of last week's Super League report, Sam realigned all 70-plus top-tier programs in divisions that make sense. Ari and David share their thoughts on the ode to regional ties, and is there a future where we have leagues that actually make sense geographically? Is Quinn Ewers the Heisman frontrunner? The Longhorns' QB might be the signal-c…
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Spring mysteries: Does Ohio State have a QB competition? | How would a Super League work? | Sneaky-good portal gets
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Is college football in store for a super league in the future? The Athletic's Stewart Mandel and Andrew Marchand reported on Wednesday about a budding organization created by a very influential group of people involving just that. Ari and Max discuss what a super league would look like, who would benefit, what major roadblocks are preventing a cong…
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Wild Card QBs in 2024 | Way-too-early hot seat watch | How Cason Beck's navigated NIL and the portal
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At a position with both constants and questions, quarterback is the most make-it or break-it position in college football. But, which QBs fall in the middle of that scale? Who are the sport's wild cards? Ari and David each list several pigskin hurlers who fit that criteria in 2024. Later, Seth Emerson pops in to talk about his exclusive interivew w…
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