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SERIES TWO STARTS SEPTEMBER 19, 2024. Artificial intelligence is changing business, and the world. How can you navigate through the hype to understand AI's true potential, and the ways it can be implemented effectively, responsibly, and safely? Wharton Professor and Chair of Legal Studies and Business Ethics Kevin Werbach has analyzed emerging technologies for thirty years, and created one of the first business school course on legal and ethical considerations of AI in 2016. He interviews th ...
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The Story of Stuff Project (www.storyofstuff.org)

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The Good Stuff is the (mostly) monthly podcast of The Story of Stuff Project (www.storyofstuff.org). Annie Leonard's conversations on the Good Stuff highlight people who are rolling up their sleeves and making positive changes in their communities - right now. Whether they are entrepreneurs, community leaders, or neighborhood kids, these inspiring individuals prove that anyone can make a difference and by joining together we magnify our power to accomplish remarkable things.
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Join Professor Kevin Werbach in his discussion with Helen Toner, Director of Strategy and Foundational Research Grants at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology. In this episode, Werbach and Toner discuss how the public views AI safety and ethics and both the positive and negative outcomes of advancements in AI. We discuss Toner’s…
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Join Kevin and Nuala as they discuss Walmart's approach to AI governance, emphasizing the application of existing corporate principles to new technologies. She explains the Walmart Responsible AI Pledge, its collaborative creation process, and the importance of continuous monitoring to ensure AI tools align with corporate values. Nuala reveals her …
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Join Kevin and Suresh as they discuss the latest tools and frameworks that companies can use to effectively combat algorithmic bias, all while navigating the complexities of integrating AI into organizational strategies. Suresh describes his experiences at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and the creation of the Blueprint for…
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Kevin Werbach speaks with Diya Wynn, the responsible AI lead at Amazon Web Services (AWS). Diya shares how she pioneered a formal practice for ethical AI at AWS, and explains AWS’s “Well-Architected” framework to assist customers in responsibly deploying AI. Kevin and Diya also discuss the significance of diversity and human bias in AI systems, rev…
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Kevin Werbach is joined by Paula Goldman, Chief Ethical and Humane Use Officer at Salesforce, to discuss the pioneering efforts of her team in building a culture of ethical technology use. Paula shares insights on aligning risk assessments and technical mitigations with business goals to bring stakeholders on board. She explains how AI governance f…
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Kevin Werbach speaks with Navrina Singh of Credo AI, which automates AI oversight and regulatory compliance. Singh addresses the increasing importance of trust and governance in the AI space. She discusses the need to standardize and scale oversight mechanisms by helping companies align and translate their systems to include all stakeholders and co…
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Kevin Werbach speaks with Scott Zoldi of FICO, which pioneered consumer credit scoring in the 1950s and now offers a suite of analytics and fraud detection tools. Zoldi explains the importance of transparency and interpretability in AI models, emphasizing a “simpler is better” approach to creating clear and understandable algorithms. He discusses F…
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Professor Kevin Werbach and AI ethicist Olivia Gambelin discuss the moral responsibilities surrounding Artificial Intelligence, and the practical steps companies should take to address tehm. Olivia explains how companies can begin their responsible AI journey, starting with taking inventory of their systems and using Olivia's Value Canvas to map th…
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Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Beth Noveck, New Jersey's first Chief AI Strategist, as they explore AI's transformative power in public governance. Beth reveals how AI is revolutionizing government operations, from rewriting complex unemployment insurance letters in plain English to analyzing call data for faster responses. They discuss New Jerse…
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Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Jean-Enno Charton, Director of Digital Ethics and Bioethics at Merck KGAA, as they explore the ethical challenges of AI in healthcare and life sciences. Charton delves into the evolution of Merck's AI ethics program, which stemmed from their bioethics advisory panel addressing complex ethical dilemmas in areas like …
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Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Dominique Shelton Leipzig, an expert in data privacy and technology law, as they share practical insights on AI's transformative potential and regulatory challenges in this episode on The Road to Accountable AI. They dissect the ripple effects of recent legislation, and why setting industry standards and codifying t…
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Join Professor Werbach and Dragos Tudorache, co-rapporteur of the EU AI Act and one of the most essential AI policymakers in the world, to discuss the world's urgent need for AI regulation and collaboration. They discuss the nuances of the Act's attempt to balance mitigating risk and fostering innovation and dissect the legislation's approach to en…
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In this episode, Professor Kevin Werbach and Dr. Richard Benjamins, former Chief Responsible AI Officer at Telefónica, discuss Telefónica's journey towards responsible AI, corporate strategies to address these challenges, and Benjamins' views on generative AI and the European AI Act. They explore the role of the Responsible AI Champion in embedding…
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Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Elham Tabassi, Associate Director for Emerging Technologies at NIST, as they explore the nuances of the NIST AI Risk Management Framework (RMF). Their discussion illuminates the science of measurement, the challenges of operationalizing legal and governance requirements for AI, and the pursuit of standards for trust…
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Join Professor Werbach and Reid Blackman, the founder of Virtue and author of ‘Ethical Machines,’ to unravel the fabric of ethical responsibilities in AI development. They navigate the transition from 'AI ethics' to 'responsible AI,' debunking the myth that ethics is just a matter of opinion and showcasing how it can be both objective and actionabl…
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Professor Werbach is joined by Azeem Azhar, a leading expert in exponential technologies, for a riveting conversation on the trajectory of AI, regulation, and the larger challenges of concentration in the tech sector. They traverse Azeem’s professional journey, highlighting the pivotal moments in AI development, such as the rise of deep learning, a…
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Welcome to the Road to Accountable AI. Explore the crucial intersection of technology, law, and business ethics with Wharton professor Kevin Werbach, as he and his guests examine efforts to implement responsible, safe and trustworthy artificial intelligence. In this initial episode, Professor Werbach describes the concept he calls Accountable AI. H…
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Stiv Wilson was in the middle of the ocean, hundreds of miles from land when he decided to quit his job to devote himself to putting a stop to plastic pollution. In Episode 18 of the Good Stuff, Annie sits down with Stiv Wilson from 5 Gyres and takes a close look at plastic pollution in our oceans, lakes, and rivers. Annie wraps this episode with a…
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Want to share more Stuff, but don’t know where to start? In Episode 17 of The Good Stuff Annie sits down with sharing champion and legal rebel Janelle Orsi. Their conversation reminds us all what’s so great about sharing – whether it’s new friends, a smaller environmental footprint, or supporting a just economy – and just how easy it is to do. Read…
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In a world where too many of us are weighed down by ever-increasing piles, drawers, and closets full of Stuff, sharing provides a deceptively simple solution. In this episode, Annie interviews Adam Werbach, founder of yerdle.com, about the sharing economy. Just imagine how radically different it would be if when you needed something, you could firs…
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“The best antidote to worrying about a problem is getting involved in trying to fix it. The same is true for our kids.” In the context of climate change, it’s all about moving towards a clean energy economy that is kid safe and climate safe. For Episode 15 of The Good Stuff, Annie sits down with Lisa Hoyos, co-founder of Climate Parents, to discuss…
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Meet Alex Freid and Amira Odeh. These two young people saw something amiss in how their communities related to Stuff and decided to do something about it. From eliminating waste during dorm move-out season to putting a stop to bottled water sales, here are two great examples of what it looks like to take action for "better" instead of "more."…
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When a thermometer factory in New York closed because of increasing U.S. regulation of mercury, the operation was moved lock, stock and barrel to India, where enforcement of environmental laws is lax. Now a subsidiary of Unilever – the company behind everyday brands like Vaseline, Dove Soap and Lipton Tea – which operated the factory in India, is t…
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If it's on the store shelf, it's been tested and found safe, right? Guess again. Bev Thorpe of Clean Production Action talks about the hidden chemical dangers in everyday products and how ‘green chemistry’—designing materials and products without harmful chemicals—promises to transform the relationship between us and our Stuff.…
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In 2007, two kids in Michigan set out to earn their Girl Scout Bronze Award by raising awareness about the endangered orangutan. They learned that the orangutans’ habitat is being destroyed to plant oil palm plantations. After making the shocking discovery that palm oil was an ingredient in Girl Scout cookies, they launched a campaign to make Girl …
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Protecting our health from toxic pollution is too important a job to be left to scientists, government regulators or even professional environmental activists. Annie looks at two communities, half a world apart, where citizens showed that people on the front lines of pollution have the power to fight back against being poisoned.…
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This podcast, recorded in January of 2013, turns the tables – or rather the microphone – on Annie as she’s interviewed by Jearlyn Steele of WCCO-AM in Minneapolis. Given the recent shift in public discourse, Annie and Jearlyn talk about what must be done to combat climate change. Annie also reflects on the first five years of The Story of Stuff Pro…
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From corner bakeries to one of Spain’s largest companies, worker-owned co-ops around the world are providing an alternative model to business as usual. Annie talked with worker-owners of the Evergreen Cooperatives, which are transforming an economically distressed neighborhood in Cleveland, Ohio – and changing lives at the same time.…
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Being a citizen isn’t about where you were born or whether you have the right papers – it’s acting on our responsibility to stand up for the planet and other people. In Part 1 of a special podcast, Annie talks to leading changemakers about citizenship – “the freedom to participate in power.” Next month, Part 2: how citizens can make change.…
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That’s the manifesto of the growing movement to make our Stuff repairable rather than disposable. And some people are going beyond repairing their Stuff to making their own. In this episode, Annie talks to a couple of high-tech entrepreneurs about the importance of the fourth R: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle – and Repair.…
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Know someone who says they’re too busy to reduce their waste? Or says it’s too hard? A very busy wife, mother and entrepreneur near Philly shares how she did it! Earlier this year, Annie spent a day with Karla Trotman in her home near Philadelphia for a taping of ABC’s The Revolution. Like many busy women, Karla has her hands full with kids, work a…
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