Life is a series of trade-offs. Let’s be more transparent about them. Our guests share the tough, unglamorous sides of the decisions they’ve made to live big lives and chase their dreams. Get inspired to own the hard choices YOU’LL make and stand confidently, even when it’s not what society says you “should” do. IG: instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast Web: fortheloveofpod.com
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How Ryan Devlin Embraces the Struggle of a Multipassionate Lifestyle
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This man has played many a serial killer on TV, but he's way more down to earth than his characters may appear. Ryan Devlin is an entrepreneur, rock climber, rad dad, and actor best known for his roles on shows like Veronica Mars and Grey's Anatomy. In his words, he’s “just trying to fit it all in.” He's also the host of The Struggle Climbing Show,…
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How Sunny Stroeer Transformed Her Corporate Skills to Advance Gender Equity in the Outdoors
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Ever get the urge to throw all your stuff in an Astrovan and leave your corporate job for good? Sunny Stroeer is a record setting adventure athlete and entrepreneur known for her feats in extreme sports and her work in outdoor adventure media. She runs two adventure guiding services and the nonprofit Summit Scholarship Foundation. Sunny combines he…
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Inside the Life of a Storm Chaser with George Kourounis
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Would you take a job that has you stand in a fiery pit that’s been burning for decades in the Turkmenistan desert, rig a rope across a boiling lake, and put yourself in the middle of Tornado Alley? George didn’t take the job– he made it, and he took his camera with him. George Kourounis is a National Geographic Explorer, storm chaser, science commu…
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12 Great Conversation Starters for Your Next Dinner Party
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Ready to be the most intriguing conversation sparker in the room? Angie and Jeni spill their previously unshared thoughts on life purpose, gratitude for pain, imposter syndrome, alcohol, and more as we surprise each other with deep questions inspired by our guests. It’s our celebration of 24 episodes with guests who’ve gotten honest on the trade-of…
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Combining Art Forms and Identities with Drag Raptress Samuel Thrower, AKA Slutashia
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Everyone can feel the confidence of a drag queen on stage, but there’s more than meets the eye. Samuel Thrower performs as Slutashia, Oregon’s drag raptress. Samuel is a multi talented drag queen, vocalist, and rapper from Eugene, Oregon. Slutashia possesses a modern-day hip-hop aura and delivers her original rhymes with strong power and confidence…
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How a Pararescueman Found Purpose After Leaving Special Ops with Matt Schollard
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Picking up “The Perfect Storm” at a Blockbuster could forever change your life… Or at least it did for Matt. Matt Schollard is a former special operations Pararescue team leader and lifelong action sport athlete. As a water confidence coach, he is passionate about developing future special operations candidates, extreme athletes, and anyone curious…
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How a Cancer Diagnosis Can Transform the Body, Mind, and Life Passions with Adam Spillman
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Being told he might have a week to live ended up changing Adam’s life for the better. Adam Spillman, once an athlete, transitioned into a coach, mentor, and motivational speaker following a life-altering cancer diagnosis at age 30, when he was initially given just one week to live. Now, Adam helps others unlock their full potential and enhance thei…
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The Florida Man Who’s Changing the Definition of Adventure: Mason Gravley
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The places we don’t always think of as adventure destinations are precisely the places Mason Gravley likes to explore. Mason grew up somewhere between the swamps, orange groves, and cattle ranches of central Florida. After vagabonding throughout the western US, he’s come back to find a deep relationship with his home state. Now, Mason's Lead Advent…
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Why Kayaker and Filmmaker Rush Sturges is Rethinking Work-Life Balance
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Kayaking waterfalls and creating epic films looks glamorous from the outside, but if there’s one thing the river’s taught Rush, it’s humility. Rush Sturges is one of the world’s most influential whitewater kayakers, a prominent action sports filmmaker, and a devoted musician. Rush has honed his filmmaking and paddling skills on location in some of …
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Mel Strong on Life After Nike: Pathological Optimism and Financial Empowerment
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Like it or not, we live in a capitalist society– so, what can we do to benefit ourselves and the world? Mel Strong started her career as a first grade teacher and journalist. A fateful interview with her long-time running hero Joan Benoit Samuelson led to a long-shot interview for an entry level job at Nike — a process that included running twice a…
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Exiting the MLB and Finding Joy Again with Mental Performance Coach Adam Bernero
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We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs. This former MLB pitcher discovered that he has more meaning and impact …
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From Corporate Career to Entrepreneur in the Wake of Sobriety with Emily Holland
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We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs. Emily Holland is a podcast consultant and strategist in Boulder, CO. In…
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How a Traumatic Brain Injury Led Pro Athletes Brandon Scheid and Sensi Graves to Find Gratitude and New Perspectives on Life
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What if the day you faced a life-threatening sports injury was one of the best days of your life? And what does that mean for your loved ones? Married couple Sensi Graves and Brandon Scheid are professional wind sport athletes. Sensi is a pro kiter, retreat host, founder of Sensi Graves Swim, and speaker. Brandon is a pro athlete and kite designer,…
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Turning Life’s Challenges into Confidence through Mindful Mountain Biking with Coach Bekah Rottenberg
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Sports mirror life. So how can we use sports to live our happiest, healthiest, bravest lives? Bekah Rottenberg is the founder of Brave Endeavors, a professional mountain bike instructor, a NASM certified personal trainer, a Patagonia mountain bike Ambassador, and a former professional enduro racer. She retired from pro racing to focus on coaching a…
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How Living Seasonally and Wild Entrepreneurship Led Tamara Jacobi to Run a Mexican Jungle Eco Lodge
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What do you get when you mix a business idea with an out-of-the-box lifestyle? Wildpreneurship. Tamara Jacobi is the author of “Wildpreneurs” and founder of the Tailwind Jungle Lodge in San Pancho, Mexico. She's lived in the jungle on the Mexican Pacific for nearly 20 years. We talk about… - Blending personal and professional dreams to build an unc…
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How Motherhood Changed Pro Ice Climber Majka Burhardt’s Relationship to Risk, Adventure, and Philanthropy
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Raising tiny humans is, for many people, the ultimate life trade-off. What happens when you’re a professional athlete, traveling the world and pushing your body, who then finds out you’re pregnant– with twins?! Majka Burhardt (she/her) is a professional climber, social entrepreneur, author, filmmaker, mother of twins and the Founder and Executive D…
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Big Trade-Offs We're Still Thinking About: Reflections from Jeni + Angie after 12 conversations with athletes, activists, and adventurers
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Having produced and released 12 podcast episodes into the wild feels like a reason to celebrate. Listen as Angie and Jeni revisit some of the thought nuggets that guests shared that they haven’t stopped thinking about. So far on For The Love Of, we’ve spoken with… A BFF who threw her life upside down to go to Antarctica A Mt. Everest guide who made…
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Managing Expectations in a High Pressure Academic Environment with Dr. Hannah Prather
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Most people see lichens as the weird stuff that grows on rock. But did you know their more glamorous role as “innovations arising from collaboration”?! Dr. Hannah Prather (she/her) is a NSF Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Biology whose research has focused on the intricate relationship among lichens, bryophytes, and…
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How Getting Diagnosed with Breast Cancer Motivated Lisa Thompson to Climb the Seven Summits
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Being a woman isn’t easy, period. But being a woman who climbed the high points of all seven continents fresh after a cancer diagnosis? We’ve got a lot to learn from Lisa. Lisa Thompson ventured into mountaineering after overhearing others’ adventures in her corporate office. She was climbing globally and had eyes on some of the world’s highest mou…
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How a Mountaineering Accident Taught Doug Beardsley to Live Life to the Fullest
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After losing a toe in a mountaineering incident, Doug vowed to never let that stop him from living the adventures and seeking the awe he craved. Doug Beardsley has a background in pediatric neuroscience and as a public school science teacher. He’s filled his life with adventure, from velodrome racing to alpine guiding and from the first known solo …
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Why Erika Vikander is Fighting for Gender Equality in Freeride Snowboarding and Women’s Sports
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Women have made huge strides in sports to work towards equality, but there’s still far to go. As one of the most accomplished competitive snowboarders in the world, Erika “The Viking” Vikander has spent the better part of her life chasing snow and podiums all over the globe. Over the years, she became disappointed to see the lack of gender equality…
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What Kayaking and Paddleboarding Taught Anna Levesque about Fear, Confidence, and Mental Agility
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After over 30 years of devotion to whitewater kayaking, what can one learn about life from the river? Anna Levesque is a mental agility and white water kayak coach who is passionate about empowering her clients with courage and confidence through her company, Mind Body Paddle. Anna is the author of the book Yoga for Paddling, was named one of the m…
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How to be an Imperfect Advocate and Pursue Outdoor Adventures in a Changing Climate with Alpinist Graham Zimmerman
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When talking about huge, scary topics like climate, it's easy to get all doom 'n' gloom. But nothing is ever black and white. Graham Zimmerman is an award-winning professional alpinist who's climbed across Alaska, Patagonia, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, and all over the lower 48 and Canada. He holds leadership roles in a range of nonprofits and outdoor co…
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How Divorce, Death, and Motherhood Changed Jan Redford’s Relationship to Rock Climbing and Risk
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When your sport is closely linked to your relationships, how can you find your own path and feel fulfilled on your own? We chat with a rock climber, writer, and mother who’s been through decades of ups and downs, from losing a partner in an avalanche to ending an unhealthy marriage and from putting herself in death-defying outdoor situations to bui…
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How Pro Kitesurfer Jason Slezak Stopped Chasing Highs to Avoid His Past Trauma and Changed His Approach to Sports and Mental Health
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A passion can add so much happiness to your life, but it can also be a way to run from trauma. We get to hear what that looks like from a pro athlete who’s experienced the highs in lows on the water, in relationships, and in his own mind. Jason Slezak is a professional kitesurfer and Patagonia Kitesurf Ambassador who has a 25 year (and counting) ca…
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What It’s Like to Face Your Fears on the “Mt. Everest of Kayaking” Stikine River Expedition with Julian Stocker
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Home to rapids with names like “The Hole that Ate Chicago”, the Stikine River Canyon in British Columbia is a Class V boater’s paradise. It’s packed with three days of big volume, remote whitewater, with no ways to leave until you make it through the staggering canyon. We get to dive into the mind of someone who recently paddled it all. Julian Stoc…
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How Dancing Transformed Nika Kermani’s Mental Health After Depression
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From booty-shaking to crying in the dish pit, we’re welcoming the breadth of human emotions with Nika Kermani of NK STUDIOS! Nika is an artist, dance and yoga instructor, and the creative visionary behind NK STUDIOS, a repurposed autobody shop turned dance studio catering to movement, dance, art & community in Bingen, WA. Nika lights up any room sh…
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How Dave Watson Navigates Relationships and Fatherhood as an Everest Mountain Guide
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There are some stellar photos of the alpine facets of Dave’s life: a handful of Everest summits, two decades of ski patrol, the first ski descent of the Bottleneck Couloir on K2… But, more than anything else, Dave is a rad dad. After growing up in Connecticut and learning to ski at age 9, Dave found himself drawn to the mysterious call of the Himal…
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The Trade-offs of Seasonal Work, Shifting Identities, and Kite Skiing Across Greenland with Katie Crafts
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At age 29, Katie pulled a classic career move: throw your desk upside down, leave your stable 6-figure recruiting job, and go work in Antarctica. You know… as we do. 🤷♀️ What started as a bartending gig in Antarctica quickly grew into a multi-year career as a Polar Expedition Guide: lecturing aboard the National Geographic ships in Antarctica, lea…
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Trailer: For The Love Of with Jeni and Angie
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