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Archetypes and the Planets

Béa Gonzalez & Jenny Montgomery

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Join Jenny Montgomery and Béa Gonzalez for an in-depth exploration of planetary archetypes. Humans have forever projected their longing, psychology, and religions onto the sky. The podcast weaves together elements from astronomy, mythology, psychology and literature through the vehicle of the planets. Is this the mother mythology? Join us and begin to make connections for yourself.
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Gatherings

Bea Gonzalez & Jay Redelsperger

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Two artists sit down to talk about books and music. They also share their love of depth psychology and explore how it applies to the artistic process. Each episode features recommendations for books and music you should read/listen to and why, and how their own creative output connects to those works. Join us if you love books, music, depth psychology and intriguing digressions! ​
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In this episode, we explore dreams from both ancient and modern perspectives. We discuss how dreams can be viewed subjectively and objectively, considering personal experiences alongside universal symbols. We also look into possible connections between astrological elements and dream content. The conversation covers the potential healing effects of…
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In this episode, we delve into the impact of illness on the narrative of one’s life by examining the contributions of Marion Woodman and Monika Wikman. Both are Jungian analysts whose extensive commentary on the topic stems from their own paths to healing. Particularly noteworthy is Woodman’s focus on the body, marking her as a key figure in the dr…
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In this episode we take a look at the phenomenon of projection through the lens of the birth chart. Projection is a term increasingly being thrown around in the current political climate but what is it exactly? Why do we project and how do we retrieve our projections? Books mentioned include: 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘙𝘦-𝘊𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘑𝘶𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘗𝘴𝘺𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘺, Mari…
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In today’s episode, we delve into a pivotal phase of the life cycle: the journey into adolescence. This coincides with two planetary cycles, the first Saturn opposition to itself, and the first Mars 15-year cycle. The weight of this transition is echoed in our cultural lore and legends. We dissect the progression of this metamorphosis through the l…
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In this episode we explore the lives of the Brontë sisters—focusing primarily on Emily Brontë and her groundbreaking work, Wuthering Heights—and how it connects to trauma, the animus, the discovery of Neptune, the Gothic, vampires, and so much more! We both love the Brontës and had a glorious time discussing their lives and work! Links to the chart…
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In this episode we discuss the work of Jungian analyst and Clinical Psychotherapist, Donald Kalsched, author of two powerful books---The Inner World of Trauma and Trauma and the Soul. In his work, Kalsched shows how "depth psychotherapy can open both analytic partners to "another world" of non-ordinary reality in which daimonic powers reside, both …
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In this episode, I introduce my new co-host, Jenny Montgomery [www.Jenny-Montgomery.com] ​​Jenny is a consulting astrologer who specializes on readings with an emphasis on developing the authentic self. Her approach is based on traditional techniques and informed by themes in Jungian psychology: shadow dynamics, soul health and purpose, and reconci…
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Uncover the Journey of the Feminine Archetype through Time In this episode, Jay and Béa discuss the myth of Inanna, the two Venuses, and the evolution of the feminine archetype across various cultures and eras. They initiate the conversation with an in-depth exploration of Inanna's myth, drawing parallels with the movie Barbie while emphasizing the…
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In this episode, Jay and Béa explore the many dimensions healing can take. There seems to be a lot of attention placed on the notion of healing in the public sphere but what does this look like? Is it possible to ever fully heal? And if so, what modalities can help us on this journey? Authors and books mentioned: Dr. Gabor Maté [The Myth of Normal]…
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In this episode of Archetypes and the Planets, Béa and Andre explore the upcoming year and what may be in store archetypally. The next two years include a lot of change as the three outer planets move into new signs. What might these changes bring? Nothing is set in stone and all we can do is connect some of the themes associated with these archety…
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In this episode, Béa has a conversation with a member of the Sophia Collective---Geneviève Caron, photographer, documentary film maker, artist and spectacular human! Geneviève has just released an exquisite 8-minute documentary where she invites the viewer to journey with the artist Ljubodrag Andric, as he travels through Jaipur, India. We talk abo…
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In this episode of Archetypes and the Planets, we explore the upcoming ingress of Pluto into Aquarius. We had a taste back in March when it ingressed into Aquarius for two months before returning to Capricorn. Some of the themes that were highlighted then were developments in Artificial Intelligence, the ongoing battle between democracy and fascism…
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Béa and Jay wrestle with the question of whether doing inner work is enough to change things in the external world as well. Does doing shadow work and wrestling with our inner demons rid the world sufficiently of the burdens we place on others---or do we have a duty to address the social problems of the day as well? If so, how does doing inner work…
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In this episode, we discuss Jeffrey Kripal's book, “The Flip” which is an exploration of what happens to people who have an experience that is life transforming but which cannot be explained in rational terms. Other thinkers mentioned include Bernardo Kastrup [More than Allegory] and Rupert Sheldrake [Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Hom…
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In this episode we explore how landscape might map onto Jung's typological system. What do the landscapes that attract us say about our typological orientation? We also discuss Lance Owen's book, "Jung in Love" and the Jeff Buckley biography, "Dream Brother: The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley" by David Browne. The song in this episode is f…
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Jay and Béa are back after a summer break to discuss some of the issues they have with the way the word "spiritual" is used. What does the word mean? How can we approach what it encompasses? We also discuss how the word drifts into a subject that keeps showing up---UFOs and the search for intelligent life in the universe. Is this part of an age old…
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In this episode we explore how planetary aspects to the natal Moon in the chart can impact the personality. These planetary conversations can be challenging or supportive depending of the nature of the geometric relationship between the planets in question, but they always imply a meeting of archetypal forces. Please be sure to share this discussio…
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In this episode, we begin our exploration of planetary aspects. Aspects are the conversations that the planets have with each other and which colour the expression of their significations. We begin the Sun and what it means when it conjuncts [or occupies the same space] as the other planets. Chart examples include Joseph Campbell, Oprah Winfrey and…
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We are back after a brief hiatus with an exploration of the "anti-hero". We discuss how the film industry has changed its portrayal of the figure of the anti-hero--from "Bonnie and Clyde" and "The Godfather" to "The Sopranos" and "Succession". We also look at how this has been explored in literature [Lazarillo de Tormes, The Idiot, Catcher in the R…
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In this episode we shift to an often overlooked part of any astrological examination---the elements [Fire, Earth, Air, Water.] From the work of the pre-Socratic philosophers to CG Jung and typology and finally, the recent work of neuro-anatomist, Jill Bolte-Taylor, we explore ways to deal with the element in the chart that might be weak, but which …
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"Discovered" in 2005, you might be inclined to discount this planetary body which demoted Pluto due, in part, to the work of self-described Pluto killer, Mike Brown. The mythology of this dwarf planet is fascinating and important. She plays the key role in igniting the Trojan War and is also responsible, according to the poet Hesiod, for the turnin…
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Jay wanted to talk about "The Wizard of Oz" and so we did. This led us into a discussion about the importance of fairy tales and to my book recommendations for the month which are all by Marie-Louise von Franz. Begin with "The Interpretation of Fairy Tales" and then read all of her other books that deal with these stories. She was a great master in…
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In this episode, Andre and Béa explore the archetypal Pluto, demoted in the world of astronomy but still very much present in the archetypal world which scoffs at our attempts to repress things. In this episode we explore the personal, the political, the motivational and the inevitable expressions of this archetype. Is Pluto the planet of transform…
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In this episode, Béa and Jay explore the subject of dreams and how to approach them. The books mentioned include: "The Way of the Dream", Marie-Louise von Franz; "Dreams", CG Jung [Bollingen]; "Inner Work", Robert A. Johnson. The song featured in this episode is a new release by Jay---"Lead me to Gardens". You can find it on all music distribution …
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In this episode, Andre and Béa journey into the psychedelic-like dream world of Neptune, the god of dreams, mystery, and addiction. As we examine some of the tales connected to this archetype, we ask--is it possible to speak about such things without slipping into the mist? You might be surprised to learn about the archetype's darker side and be in…
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With this episode, the archetypal begins to really take shape. The visible and invisible spheres of the world are separated by the planets that lie beyond Saturn. The first of these planets is Uranus, whose "discovery" in 1781 heralded the unmistakable entry into the modern era. Uranus is electric, quirky, brilliant, and revolutionary. Every seven …
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Books discussed in this episode: The Gnostic Gospels, Elaine Pagels; The Gnostic Jung, Stephan Hoeller; Answer to Job, CG Jung. Music: Sigur Rós, Björk, Radiohead. Béa laments the burning of the library at Alexandria and Jay explores the notion of mystery and how it applies to music. Song: This 'Ol World from Jay's album, Harvesting James. You can …
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In this episode, Béa and Jay discuss what they love the most--books and music. Both make recommendations for books/music you must read/listen to and why; books/music they are currently reading and listening to; and how this is all translating creatively. Themes that come up are: shadow work, the Apollonian and the Dionysian in music and how a book …
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In this episode, Jay interviews Béa about the SophiaCycles project --- the group that has been running for fifteen years. They discuss how it was formed and why, the importance of dream interpretation to the group, the public program that will launch in April, and how to set up a similar group for those who may be interested. We also discuss someth…
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In this episode, Béa and Jay explore the "anxiety of influence" by looking at those writers and musicians who have inspired them. They also discuss what works survive the test of time and why. Finally, they also explain how their own artistic work has changed over time and what recurring themes they see appearing there. The song featured in this ep…
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Béa and Jay explore the individuation process using the film “The King of California” and the novel “Don Quijote” as examples of what this journey looks like. They also discuss Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey and how misunderstandings have been created around what that means. Other works mentioned include: “Searching for Sugarman” “Star Wars” and …
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Béa and Jay explore the concept of the shadow and how it appears in our lives. They examine the difficulties encountered by people living in a culture that does not match their orientation as extraverts/introverts. They also discuss how the shadow shows up during the mid-life transition. Other subjects: the body in exile, music as a form of cathars…
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In this episode, Jay and Béa tackle the thorny issue of romantic love and its many facets. Works mentioned include: He, She, We by Robert A Johnson and The Eden Project, James Hollis. They weave their way through notions of love as they emerged during the Middle Ages through the Celtic myths--in particular, Tristan and Isolde, and in the tradition …
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Béa and Jay explore the terms feminine/masculine and the reactions they generate on social media. They also look at the burdens placed on men [book mentioned: Under Saturn's Shadow, James Hollis]. Béa guides Jay through an exercise to spur the imagination and they discuss why storytelling matters. Other works mentioned: The Iliad, The Skeleton Woma…
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Jay and Béa discuss the metaphorical killing of the parents through an examination of work from The Doors, Richard Wagner, James Joyce, Star Wars and Pedro Almodóvar. They also discuss the inherent pitfalls in refusing the call to maturity. Books mentioned in this episode: Now or Neverland: Peter Pan and the Myth of Eternal Youth, Ann Yeoman & The …
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Béa and Jay introduce themselves, they recount how they each discovered Jung and they discuss how it has impacted their creative output. They also look at dreams and their importance. The music used in this episode is Jay’s Rain and Gold from his album, Harvesting James. You can find it on YouTube bit.ly/3APibAU and on all music platforms.…
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