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The Bible. Wait… What?!

C3 Camden Picton Thirroul

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Pastor Rohan Bell is by various guests from C3 Camden Picton Thirroul as they discuss some of the more confusing, complicated, challenging and sometimes confronting bible passages in the C3CPT weekly bible reading plan. Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebiblewaitwhat Rohan Facebook: @RohanSBell Instagram: @rohanbell Ministry Matters Podcast Facebook: @ministrymatterspodcast Instagram: @ministrymatterspodcast C3 Israel Tour 2024 ...
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Ministry Matters

Rohan and Jill Bell

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The Ministry Matters podcast is ideal for small to medium size church pastors, department leaders, small group leaders and anyone wanting insight into the specific characteristics of small church ministry. Rohan and Jill Bell bring 30+ years of Christian ministry experience from diverse church sizes straight to your ears! They currently serve as Lead Pastors at C3 Camden Picton Thirroul, a three location multisite church in South Western Sydney and the Illawarra region of NSW. In this Podcas ...
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Amanda rejoins Rohan to continue our Deuteronomy series. They discuss the famous blessings and cursing passages to see if they are still relevant for us today. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Deuteronomy 26 - 8:00 Deuteronomy 27 - 31:10 Deuteronomy 28 - 58:40 Deuteronomy 29 - 1:23:40 Deuteronomy 30 - 1:34:05 Find us on the Socia…
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Rohan and Jeanie continue our Deuteronomy series digger deeper into some of the Torah laws of this ancient text and discuss how they can inform our lives in the 21st Century, Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Deuteronomy 21 - 9:35 Deuteronomy 22 - 1:14:25 Deuteronomy 23 - 1:55:35 Deuteronomy 24 - 2:32:35 Deuteronomy 25 - 2:52:45 F…
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Rohan is joined for the first time by C3 Picton Youth Leader Annaleise Forbes for our fourth episode in our Deuteronomy series. They examine some of the more challenging passages and laws in this book and discuss how we can apply 3500 year old law code to our lives today. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction and Deuteronomy 16 - 0:00 Deuter…
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Steve Danyi from C3 Picton joins Rohan for the first time for the third episode in our Deuteronomy series as they discuss some of the peculiarities of ancient Jewish worship practices. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Deuteronomy 11 - 7:40 Deuteronomy 12 - 31:50 Deuteronomy 13 - 53:25 Deuteronomy 14 - 1:10:35 Deuteronomy 15 - 1:2…
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Kenny Bartley joins Rohan as we continue our Deuteronomy series. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Deuteronomy 6 - 17:10 Deuteronomy 7 - 33:55 Deuteronomy 8 - 56:00 Deuteronomy 9 - 1:10:30 Deuteronomy 10 - 1:23:25 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebiblewaitwhat Rohan…
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Becky Babbington joins Rohan as we kick of our new series on the book of Deuteronomy. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Deuteronomy 1 - 14:25 Deuteronomy 2 - 23:50 Deuteronomy 3 - 30:35 Deuteronomy 4 - 37:15 Deuteronomy 5 - 56:55 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebib…
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Jeanie and Rohan round out our short series on Paul's letter to the Galatians. They discuss Paul's firey mood as he emphasises the true meaning of the gospel he preached and the human tendency to default back to seeking righteousness by obedience to lists of do's and don'ts. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Galatians 2 - 8:35 Gal…
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Jeff Baxter and Rohan Bell round out our series on 1 Corinthians and then discuss the first chapter of Galatians. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction and 1 Corinthians 12 - 0:00 1 Corinthians 13 - 57:15 1 Corinthians 14 - 1:18:30 1 Corinthians 15 - 1:47:40 1 Corinthians 16 - 2:19:35 Galatians 1 - 2:28:40 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. …
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Rohan and Amanda Bartley tackle some of the more confusing passages in 1 Corinthians. Marriage and singleness. Eating meat sacrificed to idols. Should the church offerings support pastoral and admin staff? Should woman wear head coverings when they come to church? And more... Timeline for this conversation: Introduction and 1 Corinthians 7 - 0:00 1…
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In this episode Jeanie and Rohan discuss the challenges in the church at Corinth and how we can and must learn from them today in order to build church communities that honour Jesus. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 1 Corinthians 2 - 12:15 1 Corinthians 3 - 52:05 1 Corinthians 4 - 1:18:00 1 Corinthians 5 - 2:07:50 1 Corinthians 6…
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This week Aaron Waters joins Rohan for the first time on the podcast. They finish our series on Ecclesiastes and commence our new series on 1 Corinthians. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Ecclesiastes 9 - 4:00 Ecclesiastes 10 - 29:55 Ecclesiastes 11 - 49:00 Ecclesiastes 12 - 1:03:40 1 Corinthians 1 - 1:17:45 Find us on the Social…
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Shannon Moir rejoins Rohan for the next episode of our Ecclesiastes series. They discuss this complex and often misunderstood book showing how it doesn't have to be a depressing text but can actually bring us hope. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction and Ecclesiastes 4 - 0:00 Ecclesiastes 5 - 25:10 Ecclesiastes 6 - 47:40 Ecclesiastes 7 - 1…
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Simon Perini joins Rohan to complete the Revelation series and introduce the book of Ecclesiastes. Strap yourself in folks. Rohan and Simon geek out and dig into some deep philosophy and theology around the natues of the New Heavens and New Earth, what it will look like and just who may be welcomed into it. Timeline for this conversation: Introduct…
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Jeanie and Rohan continue the Revelation series discussing the meaning of the Fall of Babylon in Revelation 16-20. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Revelation 16 - 20:00 Revelation 17 - 1:01:15 Revelation 18 - 1:27:45 Revelation 19 - 1:52:45 Revelation 20 - 2:25:45 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook:…
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Jeff Baxter joins Rohan for this third episode in our Book of Revelation series. They discuss some of the more challenging passages in the book. Who are the two witnesses? What's with all the beasts and dragons? What's the Mark of the Beast? Who are the 144,000? All that and more in the episode! Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 R…
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Welcome to the second episode of our Revelation series. Rohan, Phil Wearden and Phil’s dog Spencer continue on from last week's episode, this time tackling chapters 6-10. They also shed some more light on how to approach the book by imagining it as a stage play, encompassing several scenes. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Revela…
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We commence our new series on the Book of Revelation. Rohan and Phil Wearden discuss what makes this book so challenging for many. Phil’s dog Spencer also makes his presence know throughout this episode! 😉🐶 They suggest a fresh and exciting way to read it to encourage us the same way it encouraged the first-century saints of Asia Minor. Timeline fo…
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Jeff Baxter rejoins Rohan for this episode. They round out the discussion on the book of Mark by discussing its often controversial final chapter. Then they take on the often just as controversial book of Jonah and discuss how this important little book still applies to us in the 21st Century. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction / Mark 16 …
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Rohan and Jeanie continue their discussion on the book of Mark. This week they discuss chapters 11-15, the Passion Week, the final week of Jesus' encounters with the religious and Roman leader culminating in his crucifixion. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Mark 11 - 5:40 Mark 12 - 36:20 Mark 13 - 1:13:10 Mark 14 - 1:43:40 Mark 1…
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Rohan and Jeanie continue their discussion on the book of Mark. They discuss chapters 6-10 in this episode. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Mark 6 - 7:15 Mark 7 - 59:05 Mark 8 - 1:34:20 Mark 9 - 2:15:35 Mark 10 - 2:40:15 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebiblewaitw…
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We're back with our first biblical discussion episode for 2024. Rohan and Jeanie sit down to open up our new series on Mark. In this episode they discuss Chapters 1-5. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Mark 1 - 9:45 Mark 2 - 46:40 Mark 3 - 1:12:20 Mark 4 - 1:42:30 Mark 5 - 2:14:55 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Po…
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Rohan and Phil Wearden discuss the current Israel / Hamas war in this special episode. What is the history of the Arab / Israeli conflict? Should we support Israel? Or the Palestinians? What is a Christ-centred response? Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebiblewaitwhat Rohan Facebook: …
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In this first episode of 2024, Rohan and Jeanie discuss our plans for the year. This year, we will be tackling some of the more challenging and confusing Bible books. It's going to be a great year on the Pod! Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! Podcast Facebook: @thebiblewaitwhat Instagram: @thebiblewaitwhat Rohan Facebook: @RohanSBell …
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Simon Perini rejoins Rohan for our Christmas week episode to close out our Advent series. Simon takes some fascinating perspectives that prompt from really interesting discussion. Timeline for this conversation: Hosea 11 - 0:00 Isaiah 6 - 21:15 Isaiah 7 - 34:25 Isaiah 8 - 55:20 Isaiah 11 - 1:04:00 Hebrews 6 - 1:18:10 Hebrews 7 - 1:25:35 Hebrews 8 -…
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Georgia Cross, youth leader at C3 Thirroul joins Rohan for the fourth epsisode of our Advent series. Timeline for this conversation: Hosea 1 - 0:00 Hosea 2 - 11:05 Psalm 9 - 18:45 Psalm 15 - 24:55 Psalm 16 - 32:00 Luke 1 - 40:45 Luke 2 - 52:20 Luke 3 - 1:04:25 Hebrews 1 - 1:14:50 Hebrews 4 - 1:23:40 Find us on the Socials… The Bible. Wait… What?! P…
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We continue our Advent series in the run towards Christmas. In this episode Rohan is joined by Adrian Schlosser from C3 Picton and officially the youngest guest we've had on the podcast to date. Timeline for this conversation: Isaiah 36 - 0:00 Isaiah 37 - 23:25 Isaiah 38 - 43:10 Hosea 1 - 1:00:10 Psalm 19 - 1:12:00 Revelation 22 - 1:21:00 Matthew 1…
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This is the second of a three part mini-series about how leaders can create a church culture where there is a sense of FAMILY, where they labour together in a FIELD and stand together in the FIGHT. It's based on Philippians 2:25 where Paul commends Epaphroditus as a brother (Family), co-worker (Field) and fellow soldier (Fight). Thanks to Pastor La…
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Jimmy Brennan returns to the podcast this week as we continue our Advent series discussing the theme of Peace. Rohan and Jimmy discuss several of Isaiah's promised of peace and vindication for the righteous, provide a breif overview of the book of Job and then dig into some tips to help interpret the book of Revelation. Timeline for this conversati…
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This is the first of a three part mini-series about how leaders can create a church culture where there is a sense of FAMILY, where they labour together in a FIELD and stand together in the FIGHT. It's based on Philippians 2:25 where Paul commends Epaphroditus as a brother (Family), co-worker (Field) and fellow soldier (Fight). Thanks to Pastor Lar…
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As we kick off our Advent series we welcome Leonie Schlosser, our very first C3 Picton guest to the Podcast. Rohan and Leonie discuss several of Isaiah's messianic prophecies and well know Christmas passages from the New Testament. Timeline for this conversation: Isaiah 2 - 0:00 Isaiah 4 - 20:10 Isaiah 5 - 28:25 Isaiah 9 - 37:30 Isaiah 12 - 45:15 M…
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Rohan and Jill discuss how they find hope and courage to keep leading and serving in challenging times. As leaders we must learn to build resilience and find our strength in the Lord so that we can lead from and leaders others into hope. Find us on the Socials… Ministry Matters Podcast Facebook: @ministrymatterspodcast Instagram: @ministrymatterspo…
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Rohan is joined by Shannon Moir as he makes his first appearance on the podcast. They round out the prayer series discussing the topic of God’s Provision. Shannon has a fascinating take on the passages and discusses how he can see God’s provision of his kingdom resources in each chapter they discuss. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0…
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With our society so polarised these days around hot topics it can be hard for ministry leaders to know how to approach these issues. How do we address sensitive issues that carry so much emotion for so many? Should we bury our head in the sand and pretend these questions don't exist? Are we take a side and rail against the opposing view? Or is it p…
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Jeanie and Rohan continue the prayer series taking a deep dive into the concept of protection. What does it mean to have the promise of God's protection. Protection from what? How does this promise apply in the face of such suffering as the recent Hamas attacks? Do our prayer matter? Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Psalm 18 - 6:…
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In this episode Rohan and Jill discuss the importance of rest in the life of a leader. The prevailing culture in recent decades often left little space for rest, holidays and sabbath etc. Fortunately, this is changing. Taking time to switch off and recharge is vital to a sustainable leadership ministry. Find us on the Socials… Ministry Matters Podc…
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Jimmy Brennan is back for this edition of the podcast. He and Rohan discuss the important but often misunderstood topic of lament as a form of prayer and relationship with God. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Psalm 88 - 6:50 Psalm 130 - 30:25 1 Corinthians 4 - 44:55 1 Corinthians 5 - 57:10 1 Corinthians 6 - 1:15:10 1 Corinthians…
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Rohan and Jill continue their conversation from the previous episode about finding, training and releasing people for ministry and leadership. This time they shift the conversation from young adults and share their thoughts and experience on helping release seniors into their valuable roles within church life. Find us on the Socials… Ministry Matte…
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Kenny Bartley rejoins Rohan for this episode. They kick off our new theme of Prayer looking in particular at the topic of Praise. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 Psalm 135 - 9:20 Psalm 136 - 25:35 Psalm 145 - 35:55 Romans 1 - 45:25 Romans 2 - 1:06:10 Romans 3 - 1:19:00 Romans 4 - 1:35:15 Psalm 147 - 1:44:15 Psalm 150 - 1:50:00 1…
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Training and releasing people into serving and leadership is vital in any size church. And finding younger Millennial's and Gen Z's who are willing to put their hand up seems harder that it was 15 years ago. In this episode Rohan and Jill discuss their experience with how to connect with the younger generation in a way that inspires them towards se…
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Pastor Jeff Baxter is back on the Pod for this episode. He and Rohan discuss the latter days of King David's life and then dig into the New Testament to look at Paul's letters to Philemon and Titus. They round out their conversation with a study of Romans 15. Timeline for this conversation: 2 Samuel 20 - 0:00 2 Samuel 21 - 17:20 2 Samuel 22 - 40:15…
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Engaging a small church in Kingdom Mission work can be a challenge. Limited resources make it impossible to do everything. But you can do something. And you can train and equip your people to live their own lives with a Kingdom Mission focus. In this episode Rohan and Jill discuss how they’ve been able to establish Mission work at each of their loc…
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Phil Wearden from C3 Camden rejoins Rohan for this week’s episode. They continue the Ministry Series and discuss passage through the lens of God’s people being involved in volunteering for the Kingdom’s purpose. Timeline for this conversation: 2 Samuel 15 - 0:00 2 Samuel 16 - 22:05 2 Samuel 17 - 32:30 2 Samuel 18 - 40:15 2 Samuel 19 - 56:25 2 Timot…
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In this episode Rohan and Jill turn their attention to the topic of preaching. They discuss how they plan their preaching themes and prepare and train their preaching teams across their three church locations. Find us on the Socials… Ministry Matters Podcast Facebook: @ministrymatterspodcast Instagram: @ministrymatterspodcast Rohan Facebook: @Rohan…
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A very croaky Rohan is joined by a somewhat less croaky Jimmy Brennan for this episode. They continue the ongoing discussion from the last several weeks about King David's life and then jump into the New Testament to discuss a number of passages related to Spiritual Gifts. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 2 Samuel 10 - 5:45 2 Sam…
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An effective leader will always be a relevant leader. In this episode Rohan and Jill discuss the importance of being committed to life long learning. They share some practical tips and tricks they've learned along the way to make sure that we do what we can as leaders to stay curious and keep learning so that we can stay relevant and fresh to those…
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Rohan and Jeanie kick of a new season and new theme on the podcast this episode, Kingdom Life - Ministry. They continue the discussion from the previous several episodes looking at the life of King David and discuss how he was shaped to serve as Israel's King. And in thie week's New Testament passages they finish of the book of Acts and discuss the…
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In the first of what will likely be many episodes about Pastoral Care, Rohan and Jill discuss some of the basic values and essential practices to effectively love and care for those we are called to shepherd. A useful episode for anyone who cares for other people in church life, from small group leaders, department leaders, pastoral care teams, new…
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Rohan and Jeff continue the discussion from the previous few episodes looking at the life of David in our Old Testament passages and the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament. Timeline for this conversation: 2 Samuel 1 - 0:00 2 Samuel 2 - 19:45 2 Samuel 3 - 33:50 2 Samuel 4 - 50:05 Psalm 7 - 1:03:05 Acts 21 - 1:13:35 Acts 22 - 1:39:10 Acts 23 -…
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Ministry life rarely lives up to our hopes, vision and expectations. And even when things are going well a visionary leader will still see further ahead to what could be. How we manage the gap between our vision and our reality will play a big part in our effectiveness as leaders. In this episode Rohan and Jill discuss how we can stay full of faith…
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Jeanie rejoins the podcast this week as she and Rohan continue the discussion from the previous two episodes looking at the life of David in our Old Testament passages and the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament. Timeline for this conversation: Introduction - 0:00 1 Samuel 26 - 6:00 Acts 16 - 33:45 1 Samuel 27 - 1:21:45 Acts 17 - 1:38:15 1 Sa…
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