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Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier

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Welcome to the Thereafter, a place where we explore life on the other side of faith change. We’re here to break down the binaries, deconstruct the dualities, and wander through what it looks like to live in the gray. In church, we were told that life after leaving would be a bitter wasteland of unfulfilling hedonism. But we’ve discovered quite the opposite. There is actually a vibrant community of people on the other side of faith who are finding space for hope and healing. Come along, as we ...
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Today's guest on the pod is Tia Levings, a writer, creator, guest expert, and content specialist. She shines light on the abuses of Christian fundamentalism and offers contextual insight into the true horrors of religious trauma. Her memoir, A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy, releases with St. Martin’s Press on August 6th, 20…
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We are so stoked to have Benji back on the pod! And even better yet this week joins us for our intro (Twitbits and the Gram Slam) for a bit of discourse before the main interview! If you haven't already, make sure you follow Benji in all the places! On Twitter https://x.com/_heytherebenji and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/heytherebenji. If yo…
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We are so excited to be sharing this interview with Jordan Morris today! We ramble about some current events in the intro segment but if you're wanting to jump right to the conversation you can skip to 21:33. Jordan is a comedy writer with experience working in TV, features, comics, podcasts, digital comedy and video games! For television he's writ…
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Quick TW/CW about the begging of the episode. We talk a bit about the child sex abuses by Robert Morris and the response of Gateway Church. This topic may not be for everyone so feel free to skip over it to timestamp 17:00 to jump right to the main conversation of the episode. This story was originally published here: https://x.com/wartwatch/status…
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We know we've been so behind!! We promise we have more amazing episodes on the way with some incredible guests. Today we bring you a conversation we recorded a while back with our dear friend Celeste Irwin. It was such an amazing convo and we're so glad we're finally getting to share it! Celeste Irwin (she/her) is a transgender, lesbian woman. She …
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This week on the pod we bring you a conversation with Phil Drysdale. For over a decade Phil has been sitting with people as they navigate the difficult process of deconstructing their faith. As well as doing research on the phenomenon. Check out all his work at https://www.phildrysdale.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider headin…
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Today we are releasing a more impromptu conversation that we got to have with our dear friend @Transvangelical about the ways we react when prominent straight white men in evangelicalism decide to become affirming of the LGBTQ+. Fort those who may have missed our previous conversation with Transvangelical on the pod make sure to scroll back and che…
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This week we're so grateful to be sitting down with Sarah McCammon. Sarah is the author of the newly released book The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church. She is a National Political Correspondent for NPR and cohost of The NPR Politics Podcast. Her work focuses on political, social and cultural divides in Americ…
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On today's episode we sit down with our guest Alycea, better known around the web as @Transvangelical. Alycea is a trans theologian, linguist, Bible translator, and sex worker. Much of her work focuses on reclaiming sexuality as an integral part of who we are. Make sure to go give her a follow in all the places! You can find links to all her things…
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On this weeks episode of the pod we sit down with Brandon Flanery! We are so excited to share this episode with you. Brandon's new book is out now and available everywhere! You can find links to follow Brandon everywhere and get a copy of his book at his website: https://brandonflanery.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider headin…
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This week we don't have a guest. It's just Meghan and Cortland sitting down to chat about the Content Warning Event which happened over President's Day weekend in Portland, OR. If you missed attending virtually, a replay copy of the recorded sessions will be available soon via ContentWarningEvent.com. Also, be on the lookout for details about next …
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This week on the pod we have Carly Butler on to talk about her soon to be released book Apocalypse Child. We're so grateful to have this chance to chat with her and are so excited to be sharing it with you! You can find all the links to pre-order the book and follow her on all the socials at: https://linktr.ee/carlymbutton Remember, that there's st…
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Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod (again!) to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 2 of our conversation! Remember, that there's still time to register for the #ContentWarningEvent (both Virtually and In Person). You can register to attend at https://www.contentwarningevent.com/ We'd love to hear from yo…
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Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 1 of our conversation! We had so much to talk about we had to break it up. Look out for part 2 next week! We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You ca…
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This week we sit down with Trey Ferguson (known to many of us as PastorTrey05)! We're so excited to share this conversation with you and hope you take a moment to visit https://www.pastortrey05.com/book and pre-order a copy of his soon to be released book! And don't forget to follow @PastorTrey05 across all the socials! We'd love to hear from you t…
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No guest this week! Instead, Meghan and Cortland catch up about the conversation that seems to be constantly coming back up from evangelicals on the internet, which is, WHY WE'RE ALL DECONSTRUCTING. We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hos…
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We are so sorry this is out late! But we are so very excited to be releasing this episode with Flamy Grant! In an effort to get it out ASAP I'm going to make the show notes here short so we can get get this published and have you enjoying it right away! You can check out Flamy's Kickstarter at: https://KickFlamy.com or visit her website https://www…
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This week we have a return guest!! Will from episode 013 returns to the show for an amazing conversation! Don't forget to give Will a follow over on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/heretical_theology/ and leave them a comment telling them you found them through the pod! Also, for those interested in the event we mention at several points in …
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This week on the pod we are so grateful for the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Brittany Bruton! Brittany has been a dear friend of ours since before we were podcasting and we've wanted to have her on the pod for so long now! Make sure you give her a follow over on IG at: https://www.instagram.com/brittnbloom/ Also, if you're looking for a …
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No guest this week. Cortland and Meghan sit down to chat in a shorter episode than usual. We cover all kinds of topics coming off a weekend of getting to hang out IRL. Get into it! If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email…
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What an honor to have the one and only Almighty God on the pod! They, of course, need no introduction so let's all just jump in to the interview! Don't forget to follow God around the socials: on Twitter: https://twitter.com/almightygod on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@real_almightygod on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/almightygod.bsky.socia…
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We are so excited to be sharing our conversation with Matthias Roberts on the pod today! Matthias (he/him) is a psychotherapist specializing in religious and spiritual trauma and the author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms. He hosts Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being and holds two master’s degrees from The Seatt…
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Meghan and Cortland chat about what we've been up to and what we have planned for season 4. We're so excited for the conversations we're going to be having and sharing with all of you this season! If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to …
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Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we…
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Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we…
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Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we…
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Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we…
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This week on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Erica Smith! Erica, is an award winning sexuality educator and consultant with over 20 years of experience. Throughout her career, she has provided comprehensive sex education and advocacy to young women and LGBTQ+ youth in Philadelphia’s juvenile justice system, worked in abortion care, and …
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We are so excited to share our interview with Benjamin Perry on today’s episode! Benjamin Perry is a minister at Middle Church and an award-winning writer whose work has appeared in outlets like The Washington Post, Slate, Sojourners, and Bustle. With a degree in psychology from SUNY Geneseo and an MDiv from Union Theological Seminary, Perry has wo…
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No guest interview on today’s episode! Cortland and Meghan talk about harm reduction, shared ethics beyond deconstruction, and the contrast with some of the large conservative platforms that exist in harmful and toxic ways. A content warning on this episode as we discuss Steven Crowder and a recent abusive video that surfaced and other aspects of d…
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We are so excited to share this episode with you! This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers and Chloë Abigail. Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers is a best-selling author, speaker, and researcher on sexual shame and healing religious sexual trauma. She is professor emerita of sexuality, and Marriage & Family Therapy, and the Foun…
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Hosts Cortland and Meghan spend today’s episode hanging out with folx from the Thereafter community. This was a spur of the moment episode celebrating what we love most about making this podcast - the people we get to interact with. The episode is a bit chaotic, but we hope you’ll have as much fun listening as we did making it. We also hope to do t…
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We are so excited to have Jenna DeWitt as our guest today on the pod! Jenna DeWitt (she/her) is a writer, editor, and resource curator. She uses her powers as a sapphic aromantic asexual to advocate for queer belonging in the church and greater awareness of aromanticism and asexuality within affirming theology. Her website, InvisibleCakeSociety.com…
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On today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with Justin Gentry, former pastor and also co-host of two fabulous podcasts: REVcovery and Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk. Justin joins us for #twitbits and a larger conversation about ministry, forced tithing, and the exploitation of church staff and volunteers. Check out Justin’s podcasts here: REVcovery:…
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Quick TW/CW up at the top! We do get into some conversation during the TwitBits portion at the beginning of the episode that could be triggering. We discuss sexual assault and rape in regards to the discourse around David and Bathsheba that has been happening on twitter once again. If you are not in a place to hear conversations on this topic this …
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We are so very excited that today’s guest is Camille Hernandez! Camille is an abolitionist, community facilitator, and poet. In all her avenues, she uses care-centered leadership models to help survivors know their voice, be nourished in community, and develop self-compassion practices in order to birth new liberated realities into existence. Her d…
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Today on the pod we sit down with the one and only Josephine Jael Jimenez or as you may know her from around the web @JosieTakesTheWorld. Josie is the host of the Speaking in Church Podcast along with being the a photographer, writer and numerous other amazing things! She is a dear friend of the show and we are so excited to have her on the pod tod…
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Today's guest is the one and only Jennifer C. Martin, and we couldn't be more excited for her to be our Valentine's Day guest! She is a writer and editor living in Richmond, Virginia with her two partners, two children, and two pets. A former Pentecostal and current member of the United Church of Christ, she writes on religion, theology, sexuality,…
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Today we are honored to have Marla Taviano as our guest on the pod! Marla is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). She's the author of two books of unconventional poetry: …
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Today’s guest is Kristina Hart who is one of our favorite follows from around the web! Kristina is a writer, comedian, podcaster, and all around amazing human! On this episode Kristina brings her unique perspective as a Persian woman who grew up in Christianity, began her online career blogging about Christian singleness and has since seen her fait…
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Today’s episode is one we’ve been excited to release for awhile. Cortland and Meghan chat with Shannon TL Kearns. A former fundamentalist who became the first openly transgender man ordained to the Old Catholic priesthood, Shannon TL Kearns believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a write…
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On this episode we chat with Emily Pfenning. Emily is an "almost" Oregon native originally adopted as a baby from India. She works in real estate as the director of operations for a small local team. Emily serves on her office's DEI committee, and several other committees and groups. Outside of the office, she enjoys reading constantly, teaching En…
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In our first episode of the year we sat down (on New Years Eve) with friend of the show and returning guest, Kevin Nye! We discussed a semi viral tweet he had last week, the epic Greta Thunberg take down of Andrew Tate and more. We jump around quite a bit and have quite a bit of nuanced conversation. As always a reminder that much of what we talk a…
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This week on the pod we sit down with Twitter friend and creator Vy (https://twitter.com/WyldViolet). We discuss a lot of different topics along Vy's journey from growing up in evangelical purity culture to finding herself as a lesbian and reclaiming her sexuality through her work as an Only Fans creator. It was such a treat to get time with her an…
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On today’s episode, hosts Cortland and Meghan interview Paula Stone Williams. Paula is an internationally-known speaker on issues of gender equity, LGBTQ advocacy, and religious tolerance. She has been featured in TEDWomen, TEDSummit, the New York Times, Red Table Talk, TEDxMileHigh, the Washington Post, NPR, Good Morning America, CNN, ABC News, PB…
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This week on the show we talk with writer, theologian, and podcaster Robert Monson (@robertjmonson on Twitter). We are thrilled to share this interview about theology, atheism, spirituality, race, progressivism, and more. If you enjoy the show, please support Robert’s work! You can subscribe to his substack, join the Patreon for the Three Black Men…
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We are so excited to be having Jess Heathen Queen on the pod this week. If you are not yet familiar with her work on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and more where have you been? She is an absolute delight and one of our favorite follows from around the web. In this conversation we talk a bit about her story and the work she's been doing helping others to…
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Today on the pod we sit down with Tim Whitaker from The New Evangelicals. Growing up, Tim always felt at home in evangelical spaces – until years later, when his studying and questions caused him to no longer be welcomed at in his church community. Brokenhearted, but undeterred, Tim continued to pursue a deeper understanding of faith, history, theo…
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Today on the pod we have the honor of talking with not one but two amazing guests! Returning to the pod is the one and only Jo Luehmann along with the brilliant mind of Rabbi Mike Harvey! Many of you probably already know Jo Luehmann (she/they), who is a Colombian born and raised writer, documentary producer, and podcaster who moved to the US to ge…
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On today’s episode we sit down with Benjamin Faye (@HeyThereBenji on IG). Ben has been a favorite follow of ours for a while and we are so excited to have him on the pod to talk about faith, race, and his experience in the American Evangelical Church. Ben is a writer, speaker, advocate, #exvangelical, and spiritual abuse survivor who is creating co…
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