Two guys. One truck. Two thousand miles. One big, audacious adventure. Why would two brothers leave comfortable jobs to move across the country, starting a business in a foreign industry and unknown land? Amidst all these challenges, could it be successful?Dale and Brian Karmie are the brothers, family men, and co-founders behind ForeverLawn: an exploding international business with over 80 dealers nationwide. Their journey wasn’t always easy; yet throughout persistent trials, tribulations, ...
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In this episode of Impact Without Limits, Dale and Brian revisit their annual Deliverance Day celebration, a heartfelt event marking a pivotal victory in their exhausting 10-year legal battle. The day serves as a testament to God's faithfulness throughout their journey. They recount the significance of 2012 when the court allowed them to reinstate …
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Dale and Brian are back to take you behind the scenes of their legal saga that’s heating up as ForeverLawn heads back to trial after an unsuccessful settlement conference. When things couldn’t get more complicated, Attorney Dan—once Matt and Diana's lawyer who helped secure a $1 million judgment—re-enters the picture, but this time, he's on the opp…
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29. Back to the Battlefield: New Trial Date
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In this episode, Dale and Brian take you back to the intense legal battle that ForeverLawn faced in early 2012. After a tough loss in the 2010 trial, a successful appeal in 2011 brought the fight back to the courtroom. Now, with the stakes higher than ever, the focus is on proving no damages were caused while the plaintiff’s attorney digs deep to u…
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28. Interviewing Attorneys and Crashing Parties
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In this hilarious episode, Dale and Brian provide some unintended comedic relief in their ongoing legal battle. Returning to California in search of a new attorney, the brothers recount a memorable day spent meeting with three different law firms. True to their claim of always finding fun in any situation, Dale and Brian share the comical stories t…
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Join Dale and Brian as they navigate the retelling of their intense legal battle. The brothers recount their experience, from facing setbacks in their attempt to resolve the conflict personally to the relentless pursuit of justice. Despite winning their appeal, the battle was far from over as they began to strategize how to collect the costs awarde…
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In this suspense-filled episode of the Impact Without Limits podcast, Brian and Dale Karmie recount a bittersweet time in their legal journey. Just when they thought they were on the brink of losing everything due to a grueling legal battle, a last-minute appellate court ruling reversed their fate. The initial celebration quickly turned to concern …
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In this captivating episode of Impact Without Limits, Brian and Dale share the harrowing details of their battle with a $1.1 million judgment that threatened to dismantle their business. As the walls closed in, they faced the terrifying prospect of losing everything—from their assets to their hard-earned company. You are sure to be on the edge of y…
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In this episode, Dale and Brian continue to recount the legal battle that pushed them to the brink. As they navigate the labyrinth of legal motions and appeals, the Karmie brothers face relentless challenges, including the threat of jail time for contempt of court. With their business and personal lives on the line, they grapple with the decision t…
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This week on Impact Without Limits, Dale and Brian dive into the fallout from the verdict and its impact on their business relationships. The judgment against them prompted their supplier’s attorney and accountant to scrutinize ForeverLawn closely, resulting in new recommendations for collaboration. As the attorney and accountant dug deeper, the re…
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Welcome back to Impact Without Limits. In the last episode, Dale and Brian discussed filing a notice of appeal. However, this didn't halt the other proceedings. The plaintiff, anticipating the appeal would favor ForeverLawn, hired an attorney in Ohio to collect the money before the appeal could be processed. With the help of a trusted attorney, the…
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After the judgment was made, many urged Dale and Brian to file for bankruptcy, but it didn’t feel right to them. They felt a deep sense of responsibility toward their team and dealers. While bankruptcy might have been the easiest solution for the brothers, it wasn't the best option for ForeverLawn as a whole. They wanted to consider the collective …
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In this week’s episode, Dale and Brian open up about their vacation to Florida with their family following the unexpected verdict. Despite the high emotions, they managed to find moments of joy and solace surrounded by their supportive loved ones. As reality set in, they realized they needed to figure out their next steps. Confident they would win …
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In this gripping episode, Dale and Brian recount the verdict reading. True to form, the journey was filled with unexpected twists and turns. From the closing arguments and a last-minute suggestion from the judge to the reading of the verdict and the unexpected appearance of a substitute judge, the brothers were engulfed in a whirlwind of emotions. …
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Imagine this: You’re taken to court on false accusations. The proceedings begin, and your accuser takes their time presenting their case against you. It's been a disaster for them—they even requested a mistrial, which was denied. Finally, on Wednesday, it's your turn to defend yourself, but the judge warns that if the case isn’t handed over to the …
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After wrapping up 10 days of trial, Dale and Brian were just getting a chance to build their case. Brian was eager to take the stand, yet they opted for a strategic decision: refraining from placing him on the stand to avoid providing an opportunity for cross-examination that might delve into sensitive financial matters. They brought in their numbe…
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Welcome back to Impact Without Limits. As the trial progresses, tensions rise. Despite the judge warning the plaintiff that they're losing the jury's attention and need to expedite proceedings, little changes. Brian takes the stand and seizes the opportunity to recount the botched job that Matt was responsible for. But as the plaintiff's attorney s…
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Welcome back to Impact Without Limits as Dale and Brian continue walking listeners through the trial. In this episode, they share a weekend they decided to stay in California after a week in court to blow off steam before resuming the following week. Setting the scene, they share that court ended for the week with the Judge telling the plaintiff th…
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Last week, Brian hinted at Dale taking the stand for this week’s episode and what a captivating performance it turned out to be. Typically, witness examinations in court follow a conventional pattern of yes or no inquiries. However, Dan leaned toward open-ended questions, transforming the courtroom into what the duo affectionately calls ‘Storytime …
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Step into the courtroom chaos in today's episode as the plaintiff's attorney digs through papers while a witness waits impatiently on the stand. Minutes drag on, but even after enlisting the help of the witness, the document remains unfound. With objections mounting and the plaintiff’s attorney’s question-asking skills lacking, the scene becomes a …
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Sometimes, you’ve got to find joy in the journey, even in the face of the unexpected. The Karmie brothers embody this philosophy as they take listeners through an extraordinary trial experience. From savoring the mouthwatering bacon at their hotel to recounting the record-breaking number of objections in the courtroom, this episode will keep you on…
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Welcome back to another episode full of twists and turns as the Karmie brothers journey through their unprecedented trial. In today’s episode, the plaintiff’s attorney throws a curveball. What could it be, you ask? Well, you'll simply have to tune in to unravel the mystery. As the trial unfolds, objections and contradictions fly, leaving the courtr…
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The circus is just starting, and Dale and Brian are primed to entertain. With laughter echoing through the car, they share tales en route to court, setting the stage for a day that promised amusement and intrigue. Little did they know the unfolding events would make them question the reality of the trial itself. As the trial commenced, the atmosphe…
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The adventure continues this week as Dale and Brian delve into the commencement of the trial. With the jury duly selected, anticipation mounts as the trial unfurls its initial proceedings. Confident in their preparations, they brace themselves for what lies ahead. An unexpected sight greets them as the trial begins: the plaintiff's attorney enters …
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In this podcast episode, Dale and Brian find themselves in the midst of a whirlwind of events leading up to their trial. A week before the trial was set to begin, they were in Mexico City helping set up a new dealer, unsure if the trial would even happen given its numerous postponements. However, with no indication of further delays, they headed to…
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In today’s episode, Dale and Brian invite listeners back into their decade-long legal saga, offering an intricate look at the complexities they encountered. As the narrative unfolds, the brothers navigate a whirlwind of activities, from frequent trips to California for courtroom battles, engaging in negotiations with a prominent corporation, and ev…
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6. An Interesting Thing Happened on the Way to Trial
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Dive into today's episode as Dale and Brian set the stage for a pivotal moment in their legal journey. In 2009, as the economy plummeted, their heavily residential-focused business faced a daunting challenge - their first year in the red. However, amidst the turmoil, glimmers of hope emerged: new dealers joining the fold, prestigious projects like …
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In this light-hearted episode, Dale and Brian reminisce about some of their most unforgettable experiences during their legal dispute. Amidst the countless surprises and challenges, the brothers often found themselves waiting, needing to let loose and blow off steam. These narratives serve as a poignant reminder that even amidst life's storms, ther…
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Special Feature, Pt. 2: Servant Leadership with Jeff Evans
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Welcome back to Part 2 of February’s Special Feature with Jeff Evans! If you didn’t listen to Part 1, please check it out first! In this compelling episode, adventurer and esteemed speaker Jeff Evans delves into his gripping experiences in Mosul, Iraq, offering profound insights into navigating adversity. Jeff also opens up about his remarkable fea…
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Special Feature, Pt. 1: Servant Leadership with Jeff Evans
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For February's 2-part Special Feature, Dale and Brian are excited to welcome you back to the 2024 ForeverLawn Dealer Conference, where they're thrilled to share Jeff Evans' inspiring speech with listeners. Jeff Evans isn't just your average speaker—he's an adventurer extraordinaire known for guiding the first and only blind climber to summit Mt. Ev…
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As Brian and Dale embarked on the next stage of their legal journey, the deposition loomed ahead like an unavoidable hurdle. For those unfamiliar, a deposition is a formal legal procedure where witnesses and involved parties provide sworn testimony outside of the courtroom setting. It serves as an opportunity for both sides to document testimonies …
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The journey continues as Brian and Dale dive into their decade-long legal battle. In today’s episode, they unveil the highs and lows of the mediation process and the invaluable lessons gleaned along the way. Here’s the thing about mediation… It only works if both parties are willing to negotiate. Yet, in the Karmie brothers' case, they found themse…
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Picture this: it's the spring of 2007, and Dale and Brian already deeply entangled in one lawsuit, suddenly find themselves in yet another legal debacle. In today's episode, the brothers open up about this second legal ordeal, in which a customer was now making a claim against them. As they made their way through the mediation process, they quickly…
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Special Feature: Live Conference Recording - Being a High Performer in the Midst of the Unexpected
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For this month’s special feature, Dale and Brian are coming to you live from the 2024 ForeverLawn Conference. The episode emphasizes the significance of pursuing excellence rather than perfection. The central theme revolves around acknowledging that challenges are inevitable in life, but how we conduct ourselves in those testing moments truly defin…
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Welcome to Season Three of Impact Without Limits. If you’re an avid listener, you may notice that the format is slightly different. This season, the Karmie brothers will walk us through the decade-long trial that became a formative & refining season in their lives & their business. As Brian and Dale kick off this season, they set the stage for what…
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What do you do when the best part of your business becomes the worst part of your business? In late 2005 and early 2006, the volume sold in the California market had come to a grinding halt. A once thriving market was now yielding no volume. What had gone wrong? Brian and Dale began to look into this situation and were alarmed by what they found. I…
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35. The End of An Era: The Move Back to Ohio
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Have you ever driven a forklift through a busy intersection? The time had come; Dale & Brian had decided to move their families back to Ohio. It was the end of an era, but at the same time, they were purchasing a building that would become ForeverLawn headquarters in Albuquerque. So how would their move affect the business? Would the business conti…
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34. An Incentive For Success: The First ForeverLawn Achievers’ Trip
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What are you looking forward to? Sometimes, having a tangible reward in place when goal setting is the extra incentive we need to press on in times of adversity. This is what Dale and Brian had in mind when they began crafting the first ForeverLawn Achievers’ Trip. In this episode, the brothers take us on a journey through the inaugural Achievers’ …
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As the festive season envelops us in a flurry of activities – from decking the halls to exchanging gifts – it's easy to get swept away in the hustle and bustle of Christmas. In this episode of Impact Without Limits, Dale & Brian delve beyond the surface to explore the profound significance of this holiday and its enduring impact on their lives and …
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Do you remember where you were 17 years ago today? In this fun episode, the Karmie brothers share about a memorable vacation they took 17 years ago, today, with their families in Angel Fire, New Mexico. One of the things that set this trip apart from previous ones was that it was the first vacation the families had taken together that had no ties t…
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32. Think Big - The 2007 ForeverLawn Dealer Conference in Albuquerque
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Do you remember doing ‘show and tell’ when you were in school? Step back to January 2007 and join Dale and Brian for an exciting episode recounting ForeverLawn's first dealer conference in Albuquerque. Like the days of ‘show and tell,’ the brothers were eager to showcase their local projects and spend time casting visions for the future. Amidst the…
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31. Operating with Integrity: The Playground in the Navajo Nation
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How do you leave the country without leaving Arizona? Dale and Brian recount their challenging experience installing an expansive 8,000-square-foot playground in the Navajo Nation on New Year's Day. Despite the project's complexity and cold weather, the brothers were determined to complete the project with integrity. Their determination to see it t…
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Special Feature: Challenges Within The Educational System with Fred Karmie
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For this month’s special feature, Dale and Brian are sharing another segment from Moments with Fred. In this segment, Fred Karmie shares his thoughts on the educational system as it stood back in the 80s. Fred sought higher education and the American dream when he came to America. After graduating college, he began to teach. But the educational sys…
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30. There’s Always Something to Be Thankful For: The Thanksgiving Story
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What are you thankful for this Thanksgiving? The actual Thanksgiving story is one of incredible sacrifice and Biblical devotion that helped lay a foundation for generations to come in our nation. In this episode, Brian and Dale share the true story of the Pilgrims who settled in America, which often gets squandered in today’s world. As we seek to p…
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Have you ever looked for something and not been able to find it? Today, Brian and Dale continue their SportsGrass journey through the first ‘official’ SportsGrass project in Lubbock, TX, and another exciting trip along the way. As they arrive at the project location, they realize the base is unacceptable. Could they just go with it and install the …
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How do you handle it when somebody lets you down? In September of 2006, the ForeverLawn Albuquerque office was getting into a good groove. The office staff threw a party on a Friday to celebrate the 4th birthday of the business… but to Dale and Brian’s surprise, one of their integral office members didn’t show up the following Monday. Where was she…
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Special Feature: The Recipe for a Good Leader with Steve Largent
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This year, at the annual conference, ForeverLawn had the privilege to glean leadership insight from one of the NFL’s all-time greats, Steve Largent. From his humble beginnings to his induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Steve's story is inspiring. Throughout Steve’s life, he has experienced leadership in various forms, from the football fi…
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Are you open to following God’s calling on your life? As Dale and Brian share about their journey of moving to New Mexico, building a business, and eventually moving back to Ohio, it’s easy to see the thin threads between these changes. It all started with an article Brian saw that Dale’s alma mater was putting in a turf field; then, the brothers w…
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How do you sell a premium product in a commoditized market? In today’s episode, Dale and Brian discuss ForverLawn’s emergence into the sports field market. When they first came onto the scene, they quickly realized that the sports field market was highly commoditized. ForeverLawn had a high-value, quality product, making it higher priced... So, the…
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25. Something Has Got to Give: The Sale of the Albuquerque Market
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What kind of questions do you attract? This may sound like a riddle, but it’s reality - How you carry yourself will attract different questions. For this reason, if you are intentional about your actions, you can, in turn, lead people to ask the questions you are eager to answer. On this stop in the ForeverLawn story, the Karmie brothers share abou…
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24. Expand Your Vision - The Montaño Private School
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Have you ever bought a Rhino? In case you’re wondering - we’re referring to a Yamaha Rhino, not a live one. One that, in the fall of 2006, the Karmie brothers hadn’t yet purchased... But they soon would after a large project. In this week’s episode, Dale and Brian are sharing about a time when ForeverLawn was tasked with their largest project in Al…
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