Examining TV and movies through the lenses of politics and genre: its definition, its limits, and what we can learn by exploding them. Madeline is a writer, cultural critic, and the author of 'Comedy Against Work: Utopian Longing in Dystopian Times.' Dave is a comedian and actor, who has appeared on 'This American Life' and FX's 'The Bear.' Sometimes it's just them. Sometimes they have guests. Each episode, one person chooses a tv show or movie to discuss. At the end, we do a "genre reveal" ...
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The only podcast that bites back! Jay and Kayte talk about the most delicious taboo: cannibalism. Join us as we devour movies, art and theory!
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Graduation Movies (Reality Bites and Kicking and Screaming (1995)): We Do Nothing
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This week we talk about two canonical gen-x graduation movies: Reality Bites and Kicking and Screaming (no, not the one with Will Ferrell). Spoilers: 90s bisexual cinema, friendship cinema, lots of kinds of "cinema," geriatric millennial talk, chain smoking, Troy was a fuckboi but maybe Madeline forgives him because he gives good apology, more chai…
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More Student Uprisings (if.... and Class of 1984) with guest Sean O'Brien: We Like Tigers
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It's our second double feature of student uprising films, including perhaps the most legendary movie in the genre, 1968's if... And Class of 1984 is also here. Joining us is Sean O’Brien, a writer and researcher who teaches at the University of Bristol. Spoilers: animal sounds, the worst movie we’ve ever watched for the podcast, the young Michael J…
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YellowJackets Season 1 with Madeline Lane-McKinley
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Press play on your PJ Harvey cassette tape, we are talking about season 1 of Yellowjackets with writer Madeline Lane-McKinley! We dissect themes of adolescence, maenadism, fandom and ‘90s culture. Plus! Are teenage girls really that mean? Is there enough cannibalism in Yellowjackets or just enough? Buy Madeline’s book Comedy Against Work here Pre-o…
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Student Uprisings (Over the Edge and Bambule) with guest E Conner: We Only Got One Law
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This week we talk about two excellent films from the 1970s about two very different contexts of student uprising. We're joined by E Conner, editor of The Weakly and TANC organizer in the Bay Area. Spoilers: teen runaways, rioting, Meinhof talk, the young Matt Dillon, being young and doing crimes, movies that end in the back of a bus with ambivalent…
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School Scandals (May December and Notes on a Scandal) with guest Milo Muise: We Don't Think We Have Enough Hot Dogs
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This week we're joined by Milo Muise to discuss what we're calling the "School Scandals Double Feature," May December (2023) and Notes on a Scandal (2006). Both films deal with the sexualization of the teacher/student relationship, abusive power dynamics, obsession, and divas. We felt this was a fascinating double feature, but we also flirt with th…
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Hannibal (2001) with Jon from Horror Vanguard!
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This week, Kayte and Jay are joined by Jon from Horror Vanguard and we are back in the world of Hannibal Lecter! We talk about Ridley Scott's 2001 movie Hannibal and the Thomas Harris novel (1999) of the same name. On the menu: Dante! Opera! Hannibal shopping! Florence! Surveillance and Mediation! Sources discussed in this episode: "A Postmodern Re…
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All Teachers Are Cops (Dangerous Minds and Kindergarten Cop): We Lack Discipline
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We put together another double-feature for this week called "All Teachers Are Cops." We watched a couple '90s, VHS classics: Dangerous Minds (1995) and Kindergarten Cop (1990). Spoilers: white savior complexes, child actors, "police school," sweat pants, leather jackets, Coolio, junk food diets, Michelle Pfeiffer hasn't won an Oscar, watching women…
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021 - Ravenous with Vicky Osterweil
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Writer, worker and agitator Vicky Osterweil joins us this week to talk about the 1999 horror western dark comedy (?) Ravenous! Come along with us as we head out to the snowy wilds of the Western mountains; we talk Wendigos, colonizers, monstrous gays, the myth of the "noble frontiersman" and bravery. Also, a bananas soundtrack by Michael Nyman and …
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Precocious Students (Rushmore and Election): We're Here for the Extracurriculars
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This week we discussed two films about precocious high school students that came out in 1998 and 1999, which were both second features made by precocious indie filmmakers: Wes Anderson's Rushmore and Alexander Payne's Election. These films have a lot in common, but they also have very different takes on the adolescent / mid-life crisis dynamics the…
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Inspirational Teacher Comedy Double Feature (School of Rock and Hamlet 2): We Have a Device
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This week we followed up our boarding school trilogy with an inspirational teacher comedy double feature: School of Rock (2003) and Hamlet 2 (2006). These are two incredible antidotes to Dead Poets Society. Spoilers: abolish grades!, the power of theater, Jack Black is sexy and everyone knows it, politically incorrect lyrics, Erin Brockovich on sta…
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020 - Love Lies Bleeding with Mae and Beth
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Hello Sapphic sickos! It's a femme extravaganza this week on Tender Subject as we are joined by Mae of the Ladykillers pod and Beth of Kayte's polycule to talk about Love Lies Bleeding! We talk about service tops, muscle mommies, Macho Sluts and giant women! Plus, is the end of the film real or fantasy and does it matter? Sources mentioned in the e…
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Boarding School Trilogy (Dead Poets Society, School Ties, Flirting): We Sound Our Barbaric Yawp
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To start off our latest season "School Days," we made you another trilogy! We discussed The Boarding School Trilogy: Dead Poets Society (1989), School Ties (1992), and Flirting (1991). Spoilers: shower scenes, acne, poetry, anti-semitism, the horrible history of 'boarding schools' and genocide in the US, Thandiwe we love you, hand jobs, book deals,…
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This week, Kayte and new co-host Dave Maher are talking about David Cronenberg’s earliest features, Shivers and Rabid. We dish about sexual repression, white flight, zombies and wonder what it would be like if the United States funded arts and culture. Sources we referenced: “Film Bodies: Gender, Genre and Excess” by Linda Williams “A Mindless Orgy…
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018 -Santa Clarita Diet with Radio Free Tote Bag!
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We are joined by Donovan and Audrey from Radio Free Tote Bag to talk about the Netflix Zombie show, Santa Clarita Diet! We talk about the origins of zombies, the Capitalist hoard and what to do if your partner is undead. Some readings Kayte references: On the Frontlines of the Zombie War in the Congo: Digital Technology, the Trade in Conflict Miner…
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BONUS: Training Day: We're Sorry We Exposed You to It with Dylan Rodriguez
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We've got one more chat about Season 2's theme "We Don't Need Another Hero." For our bonus episode we talked about Training Day (2001), featuring Denzel Washington's Oscar-winning performance as a crooked cop. Scholar, activist (and sports dad!) Dylan Rodriguez helped us think through this film, LA politics, and Hollywood copaganda. Spoilers: Ethan…
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017 - Eat the Rich feat. Luisa Díez
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----more----Om nom nom. Eating the Rich: why aren’t we doing it yet? This week we are Joined by Luisa Diez from Why You Mad to dish over the “Eat the Rich” movie trend. We talk Saltburn, The Menu, and Triangle of Sadness plus, Luisa has an “Eat the Rich” movie Taxonomy! Eat the Rich: The Evolution of a Slogan By We are the Mutants https://wearethem…
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016 - Hannibal Season 2 w/ Leòn from The Left Page
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Leòn from The Left Page and Here Be Media joins us again to discuss season 2 of everyone's favorite queer cannibal show: Hannibal! Find Leòn (and Frank) wherever you get your podcasts: https://linktr.ee/leftpagehbm Follow us on Twitter @tender_subject and on Instagram @tendersubjectpod We're also on Bluesky @tendersubject.bsky.social Art by Anya R.…
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Mike Birbiglia's My Girlfriend's Boyfriend: We Know, We're in the Future Also with Lucas O'Neil
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To close out our season on heroes and villains, we talked about Mike Birbiglia's 2013 comedy special My Girlfriend's Boyfriend with guest Lucas O'Neil. Spoilers: comedy talk, aspirations, inspirations, Death Cab for Cutie, white guys, "which," humiliation, controlling the narrative, Georgetown, geriatric millennial vibes, one man shows, clowns. Fin…
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Fargo Season 5: We've Got Our Own Reality with Kyle Lane-McKinley
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This week we dug into the recently concluded fifth season of FX's Fargo, with guest Kyle Lane-McKinley! We discuss the series as an adaptation of the 1996 Coen Brothers' film, and more broadly the Coenesque world. And we keep reflecting on the theme of our own season, heroes and villains. Spoilers: Coencidences, Wizard of Oz, nipple rings and prost…
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015 - Cannibalism and Origin Myths w/ Justin
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Saddle up that celestial cow, we're talking about origin myths. Media mentioned: Crecganford video: https://youtu.be/Cgku-koMiLM?si=YJCZtg64whw5vQiy Patai (1967) The Hebrew Goddess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hebrew_Goddess Wakeman (1969). https://www.jstor.org/stable/3263723?casa_token=4KQFNyu0U8kAAAAA%3ASMiTgV4YZTO_-XS013hZaXBv9-su2WO3lpnb2…
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Inventing Anna: We Do Not Have Time for This with Jasmine Bridges
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This week Madeline's best friend Jasmine joins us once again - our first second appearance on the podcast! We hope to have her on every season. This time around Jasmine assigned us with Inventing Anna, the 2022 Shonda Rhimes mini series about Anna Delvey aka Anna Sorokin. Spoilers: poor people pretending to be rich and rich people pretending to be …
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Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains: We're Against You, Russell with Ariel Elias
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This week we talked all things Survivor with comedian Ariel Elias. Like Dave, Ariel is a Survivor super-fan, and had lots to say about Season 20: Heroes and Villains. Spoilers: Russell's eyes, poop in the ocean, pandemic binging, Russell's hat, libertarianism, all-coconut diets, Coach's vulnerability, Mae Martin & Parvati, no one gets to be a hero.…
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The Hunger Games: We Went Back for the Cat with Hope Barnes
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This week we talked about The Hunger Games franchise with special guest Hope Barnes! Spoilers: Peeta revenge fantasies, sperm creatures, post-Occupy vibes, what if cannibalism?, fascism. Follow Hope @hope.ellen.barnes on Instagram. Follow us @genrerevealpod on Instagram and Twitter, and email us at genrerevealparty@gmail.com with your thoughts, sug…
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014 - Flux Gourmet (2022) w/ Dave Maher
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Have you turned your flangers down? You better, because this week, we're joined by Dave Maher to talk about the film Flux Gourmet! This film had us questioning the nature of authenticity, and it also made us equate farts with noise music, but in a good way. Dave Maher is a super cool comedian! You can view his work, such as the podcasts This Is You…
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Jennifer's Body: We're Still Here Breathing Now
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Is this season secretly about horror? Maybe. This week we talked about Jennifer's Body. Spoilers: pronunciations of "Seyfried," being late to learning about Megan Fox, bad lip syncing, production company conspiracies, speculative making-of mocku-dramedies, wtf another Diablo Cody movie? Follow us @genrerevealpod on Instagram and Twitter, and email …
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Women Against Power Trilogy: We Don't Need Sugar with Phil Longo
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We made another trilogy episode! This week we talked with Phil Longo about the "Women Against Power Trilogy": The China Syndrome (1979), Silkwood (1983), and Erin Brockovich (2000). These movies each feature a bad-ass woman (Jane Fonda, Meryl Streep, and Julia Roberts) standing up against a power plant conspiracy, and we had a great time thinking a…
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A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night: We Like the Way You Stir It with Johanna Isaacson
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This week we talk with special guest and feminist horror critic Johanna Isaacson about Ana Lily Amirpour's 2014 Persian-language western Neo-noir vampire film A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night. Spoilers: sexy vampires, terrible men, Chester Cheeto, skateboarding, the "Jurassic Park rule," hipster directors, Tony Hawk 380. Special Guest: Johanna Isaa…
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King of Comedy: There's Only One Problem, We're 34 Years Old with Eleanor Russell
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This week we talk with special guest Eleanor Russell about that one time when Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro tried to make a comedy as their follow-up to Raging Bull. King of Comedy stars De Niro, Jerry Lewis, and the incredible Sandra Bernhard. Spoilers: we are all Rupert Pupkin, Joker talk, obsessive fandom, Liza Minelli/Martin Scorsese/Mikha…
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Interview with the Vampire: We Belong In Hell
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This week we talked about Neil Jordan's 1994 film Interview with the Vampire, adapted from Anne Rice's 1975 novel, as an eerie portrait of '90s sexy leading actors who are actually vampires pretending to be men: Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, and Antonio Banderas. Spoilers: "how avant garde," there will be blood, the existence of Tom Cruise, immortality, t…
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Four Lions: We're Real But Not Anymore
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A comedy about terrorism? Released in 2010, Four Lions follows the story of four British Muslims who decide to become suicide bombers. It's... funny, tragic, confusing, satirical, and maybe a spoof of The Lion King. Directed by Sam Morris, and written by Morris, Sam Bain, and Jesse Armstrong, the film stars Riz Ahmed, Kayvan Novak, Nigel Lindsay, A…
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Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome: We Don't Need Another Hero (Hero, Hero)
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We're launching our second season with Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, the film that inspired our season's title, "We Don't Need Another Hero." Made in 1985, the film is the third installment in George Miller's Mad Max franchise, and the last (thankfully) to star Mel Gibson. Stealing the show are Tina Turner as Aunty Entity, who rules over Bartertown. …
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Who's hungry? This week, all the way from the bottom of the stew, we're joined by noted Herschell Gordon Lewis expert LaborKyle to talk about Blood Feast (1963). In doing so, we summon Ishtar (which means we talk about all sorts of stuff like treating your artistic work as work, how Victorians ate mummies, and the warm piss stream of Marxism). You …
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012 - Head of the Family LARP w/ Jacqueline Bryk & Jason Burnett
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"Food doesn't get a last will and testament." This week, Kayte and Jay are joined by the designers of Head of the Family, Jacqueline Bryk/Jax Romana and Jason Burnett. What's Head of the Family? We're glad you asked! Head of the Family is a Live Action Role Playing game (LARP) that your co-hosts were invited to participate in! Why? Because: It's a …
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011 - Buddhism, Chöd, and Cannibalism as Compassion
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This week, Jay tells Kayte about the Vajrayana Buddhist practice of chöd, where a person visualizes sacrificing their body for a feast of buddhas and demons. Through this, we explore death, the use of human remains in ritual, and the liberatory potentials of this kind of practice. Jay also talks about this practice a little on the Empty Man episode…
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010 - Tender is the Flesh/Meat Love
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This week, Kayte and Jay discuss two books about the relationship between capitalism, the meat industry, and the exploitation of both human and non-human animals. We also talk about how people involved with cannibal media keep going vegetarian: Guillermo del Toro, Bryan Fuller, Agustina Bazterrica, and now Kayte! Tender is the Flesh by Agustina Baz…
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009 - The Texas Chain Saw Massacre w/ Johanna Isaacson
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Did somebody order head cheese? If you did, you're in luck! This week, we're joined by Johanna Isaacson, author of Stepford Daughters: Weapons for Feminists in Contemporary Horror, to talk about the one, the only, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre! We ask the important questions, such as, "does Leatherface represent feminized labor?" and "is Leatherface…
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008 - Hannibal Season 1 w/ Leon from The Left Page
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Strike Information: https://www.sagaftrastrike.org/ https://www.wgacontract2023.org/ Leon from The Left Page and Here Be Media joins us to discuss season 1 of everyone's favorite queer cannibal show: Hannibal! And what is a podcast? Is it not when people come together and forge a connection? The boundaries between the Self and the Other merging lik…
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007 - Cannibalism and Early Christianity w/ Justin from librarypunk
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We're finally gonna talk about cannibalism and The ChurchTM...but probably not in the way you expect! Justin from the librarypunk podcast joins us to discuss such things as the existential paranoias of 2nd century Christians, whatever happened to Jesus' foreskin, and the reason gay sex is so cosmologically threatening. Articles and books mentioned:…
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BONUS: Season 1 Finale: We Are Just Getting Started
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In this bonus episode we reflect on the season and the films and shows we watched, our awesome guests, and our plans for next season. Thanks for listening! Spoilers: theme for next season, "lens" crafting, the end of Casablanca, self-critique, uninformed feelings about Bo Burnham, thoughts about stan culture, RIP Pee-wee, RIP Sinead, the beginning …
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006 - Manifesto Antropófago w/ Frank from The Left Page
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We're due a good manifesto, don't you agree? This week, we're joined by Frank from The Left Page/Here Be Media podcasts to discuss the Manifesto Antropófago, or the Cannibalist Manifesto, by Brazilian poet Oswald de Andrade. The translation we're working from: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20119601 Frank's references: "Cem anos da Semana de Arte Mod…
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Rothaniel: This Only Works If We Feel Like Family with guest Tim Barnes
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To conclude our first season on "Family Matters," we watched Jerrod Carmichael's 2022 comedy special Rothaniel with special guest Tim Barnes. Tim helped us unpack this incredible special and Carmichael's discussion of family secrets, Black kinship and family experiences, coming out, and more. We also talk about Carmichael's relationship to other ic…
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Cruising: What We’re Doing Is Affecting Us with guest Max Fox
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This week we discussed Cruising, William Friedkin's highly controversial 1980 film starring Al Pacino as a cop who goes undercover to catch a serial killer who's targeting gay men in the underground subculture of S&M and leather bars of New York City. Joining us this week to help us think about this confusing, confused, and fascinating film is writ…
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005 - Antiviral (2012) w/ Jon aka TheLitCritGuy
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Jon aka TheLitCritGuy, one of the two co-ghosts of Horror Vanguard, joins us to discuss Brandon Cronenberg's debut film Antiviral. Make sure you get your vaccine series of celebrity and the Spectacle, and don't forget your boosters of radical collectivity and the importance of being a weird little guy. You can find Jon on Twitter and Bluesky as the…
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Jordan Peele's Us: We Are Americans
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We are them and we watched Us. Jordan Peele's 2019 movie Us. Spoilers: Santa Cruz housing crisis, Hands Across America bookkeeping, the Jordan Peele trilogy, Madeline thinks infamous horror villain Jason is a ghost. Follow us @genrerevealpod on Instagram and Twitter, and email us at genrerevealparty@gmail.com with your thoughts, suggestions, guest …
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You asked, we delivered. Comedian and podcaster Jake Flores joins us to talk about Julia Ducournau's 2016 film Raw. You can find Jake everywhere @feraljokes. Listen to his podcasts Pod Damn America and Why You Mad. Follow us on Twitter @tender_subject and on Instagram @tendersubjectpod We're also now on Bluesky @tendersubject.bsky.social Art by Any…
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The Royal Tenenbaums: We're Not Related By Blood
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This week we took some time to revisit The Royal Tenenbaums, a film neither of us had seen in about twenty years, but which falls very clearly into this season's theme of films about family with lots and lots of genre troubles. We chatted about Wes Anderson's career, the politics of his aesthetics, and also what we didn't notice about this film in …
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Caché: We Did Not Send the Tapes with guest Bettina Johnson
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This week we discussed Caché, the 2005 French film by Austrian director Michael Haneke, starring Daniel Auteuil, Juliette Binoche, and Maurice Bénichou, and suggested by our guest Bettina Johnson. Caché is about a well-off French family terrorized by a series of surveillance videotapes left on their front porch. This terror reverberates from the Pa…
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003 - Motel Hell (1980) w/ Ashley Darrow
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We're joined by our very first guest, Ashley Darrow from the Horror Vanguard podcast, to talk about the 1980 horror film Motel Hell. This movie has everything: class politics, eco-Christofascism, chainsaw fights, swingers. It also sparked a great discussion about the ethics of meat production and the politics of total liberation. You can find Ash h…
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Fate of the Furious: We Are the Crocodile at the Watering Hole with guests Em Gonzalez and Jo Giardini
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We learned so much in this episode about the meaning of family, freedom, and driving real fast. While Dave was a fan already, Madeline had never seen a Fast & Furious movie, so we called on two experts to fulfill this mission: Em Gonzalez and Jo Giardini. Em and Jo help us unpack everything from the geopolitical to the penis allusions of the entire…
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This week, we talk about a very hot-button issue: art! Our main course is the Spectator article Art is Eating Itself by Emma Webb. This discussion leads us through a delectable buffet of Modernism, Feminism, Marxism...and Hannah Gadsby. NOTES FROM THE EDITOR: We sometimes use incorrect pronouns for Hannah Gadsby. This was not intentional, and we ap…
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