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The Last Human Voice Podcast

Marcus Hutton, Dr Mathilde Pavis & Annette Rizzo

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Two voice artists, Annette Rizzo and Marcus Hutton, join forces with Dr Mathilde Pavis, an expert in intellectual property law, ethics and new technologies. In conversation with artists and activists, they explore the professional, legal and ethical issues in Artificial Intelligence in the creative sectors and performance synthesis. * Music: “Songs for Ancestors” by Juno Reactor. With kind permission from Juno Reactor/Ben Watkins. www.junoreactor.com *Discussions over the course of these pod ...
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Should the creation of Deepfakes be a protected right under the banner of Free Speech? How do existing laws balance our right to Free Speech with our Right to Privacy? Dr Dimitri Kagiaros is Assistant Professor in Law at the University of Durham and an expert on the regulation of Freedom of Expression. He has written extensively on the topic and hi…
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This time, we get a philosopher's take on AI. Jumbly Grindrod is a lecturer in philosophy at the University of Reading. He specializes in the philosophy of language and epistemology, which refers to the theory of knowledge itself. Does it - or should it - matter to us whether AI or a human being is talking, writing or engaging with us? What happens…
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In this episode, we select from the latest AI stories that have grabbed the headlines or slipped by stealth into our feeds. From the miscommunication that made Mamma Mia actor, Sara Poyzer, trend on Twitter, to the discovery of Marvin Gaye's long lost demos, we look at legislation, regulation and how artists and creative performers are responding t…
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Much of the fear generated by AI is about theft; the companies that own the technology will steal your image, replicate your voice and replace you with an AI version of you that takes your job. But perhaps it doesn't have to be that way. Since their collaboration on the documentary "Gerry Anderson: A Life Uncharted", Ben Field and Jamie Anderson ha…
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How would it feel to see a digital deepfake of someone you love who has died? What would you need to consider before agreeing to create it? Jamie Anderson and Ben Field can answer both of these questions and more. "Gerry Anderson: A Life Uncharted" is their 2022 documentary about the life and work of Gerry Anderson, TV and film producer, director, …
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Dr Dominic Lees is an award-winning filmmaker and director. He is also Associate Professor of Filmmaking at the University of Reading, with a research specialism in deepfakes. In 2019, "Virtual Maggie" was among his projects, exploring how AI technology could be used to resurrect Margaret Thatcher for a contemporary drama called "Rebel Bus". Dr Lee…
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Who is going to own your clone? Who gets to control your digital double after you're dead? And what kind of deal can unions do for the departed? In the second of two episodes dedicated to unpicking the SAG-AFTRA Deal, we move on from the rules and requirements for the creation and use of "employment-based replicas". These are replicas tied to speci…
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On the 14th of July 2023, the American actors’ union ‘SAG-AFTRA’ joined the strike already begun by the WGA (Writers' Guild of America.) The dispute with the AMPTP (Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers) was about pay, working conditions and AI. An interim deal was struck in November and approved by SAG-AFTRA members on the 5th of Dec…
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Our guest in this episode is Yvonne Muinde, an award-winning visual effects artist whose credit list takes in a range of iconic films, including the Planet of the Apes, The Hobbit, and Avatar. An established fine artist, Yvonne's work has featured in several collections, including the The Chemistry of Color Collection at the Philadelphia Museum of …
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“A ground-breaking, innovative new contract”; that’s the headline for the deal negotiated between SAG-AFTRA, the US Actors’ union and Replica, the company using AI to create digital voice replicas. What does the deal cover? What does it omit? As the first agreement of its kind, what could it mean for actors and performers both in and outside the US…
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What does it mean to have your voice or performance cloned? Is there a difference between cloning and synthesis? If I agree to the creation of my digital double, do I have any say in what it does next? And wherever it goes, will the Law be running to catch up? Put simply, do I want to be a clone?By Marcus Hutton, Dr Mathilde Pavis & Annette Rizzo
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The phrase "Know your worth" is often repeated among artists, performers and other freelance workers who have the responsibility for negotiating their own rates and terms of employment for every job they do. But how do you go about valuing yourself and your work? And how do you then convey that to an employer, especially in a landscape where cost, …
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Agents are the hard-negotiating, multi-tasking, contract-savvy industry experts, working to match the Talent they represent with paying clients. In what can be long contractual chains, agents provide a layer of protection for performers, who trust them to act in their best interest. Our guest this time is Daniel Hinchliffe, managing director of the…
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The EU Artificial Intelligence Act has been described as the most ambitious attempt to date at creating a legal framework for AI. We are joined this time by Dragos Tudorache, Member of the European Parliament, Vice-President of the Renew Europe Group and - as one of two Rapporteurs leading on the proposed Act - a key figure in policy making. What i…
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What does the term "Buyout" mean? What's the best way to respond to buyout requests from clients? And if you've agreed to a buyout, does that mean you consent to any and all uses - even to AI imitations of your voice/performance without additional consent or payment? In a discussion that ranges from fertiliser to Freedom of Contract, taking in Span…
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For Artists, AI offers an exciting toolkit - particularly tools for performance synthesis. But alongside the creative opportunities looms a potential threat to their creative futures. Annette, Mathilde and Marcus talk with composer, musician and technologist, Sarah Angliss, about her integration of technology and music and her experiences of workin…
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Why have America’s actors and writers gone on strike? And is why AI so important in the biggest Hollywood artists' strike since 1960? Tim Friedlander is founder of the National Association of Voice Artists (NAVA). Tim chats with Marcus, Mathilde and Annette about current events in the US. He explains what has led SAG-AFTRA and the Writers' Guild of…
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