Shawn Ferris and Josh & Luke Younggren of Evolving-Hockey.com talk weekly about hockey focusing on NHL players, teams, and other current events from an analytical and statistical perspective.
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The episode Josh and Luke have been waiting for all season. We spent the vast majority discussing our Awards picks for the '24-25 NHL season (accompanying the recent article on the site). In between we chatted golf, The Truman Show, and advertising.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Since our week off, we've become a sports talk show. In the first half we chatted about Ovechkin's record (and differing levels of interest around it) while discussing other interesting records. Later, we covered the overlooked (by us) Habs and wondered why more people don't utilize the 10-key portion of their keyboard.…
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Episode 140: Canucks, Rangers, and Twisters
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1:09:15We're making our way to the regular season finish line, and we're vibing. In the first half we chat about the draft, exercise habits, old tweets, and the dismal Canucks and Rangers. Later the twins rant about Twisters, discuss Ovechkin, and cover a few horrendous defensive skaters.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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It's possibly the most boring time of the season - everyone is waiting for six teams to figure out which two will take the last wild card spots. That didn't stop us from getting chaotic. We spent the first half discussing the recent Athletic ownership survey. Later we reined things in w/ the playoff race and explained Rush to Shawn.…
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Episode 138: Trade Deadline Review (2025)
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1:15:53Just like that, the 2025 NHL trade deadline came and went! We spent the entire episode recapping last week/the actual deadline. Along the way we discussed handling team changes re: modeling, Buffalo and Seattle, life hacks, and skunk cabbage.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 137: Trade Deadline Preview (2025)
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1:07:12After a long night, Luke and I finished and released our Trade Deadline Targets article on the site (check it out)! We spent the entire episode discussing the article, the current trade market, philosophical ways of evaluating trade targets, our favorites, and a couple movie recommendations in between.…
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We took a week off to fully enjoy the 4 Nations Face-Off, and now it's time to evaluate. We spent the first half doing just that (to varying levels of success). Later we dove into some deep model talk, quizzed Shawn on decade-old draft orders, and pondered Classical Music.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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We've officially entered the 4 Nations break, with the tournament only a few days away. In the first half we attempted to cover all the Nations while rambling about file systems and technology. Later we analyzed the evolution of dump and chase vs. zone entry systems and bad skateboarding.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 134: Trades and Ambidextrous Skaters
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1:07:53In the last week, three (well really four) major trades occurred. We spent the entire episode breaking down each one. In between we rambled about fast food, faceoff specialists, haters, and why aren't there ambidextrous hockey players?By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 133: The Rantanen Trade (and Bedard)
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1:12:48The biggest trade in years happened last Friday. We spent the first half discussing the transaction, our analysis, and home improvement stores for some reason. In the second half, Josh was accused of questioning Bedard's value, so we talked bad teams, #1 overall picks, and vibes.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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After a week off due to another Vikings playoff loss and a physical move by Shawn, we're back to cover the current playoff landscape. Fair warning: we did our classic poor job of staying on topic, but we tried. In the mix: Blue Jackets, Bruins, Canadiens, and Connecticut?By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 131: The Social Media Landscape
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1:16:41We're, once again, back at our regularly scheduled time. We've never been late. In the first half we discuss the current social media landscape re: hockey, Frank Vatrano's interesting new contract, and tax evasion. Later we chat about Canucks drama and Classic Rock.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 130: The Stars Break the Rules
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1:10:14The last remaining authentic podcast is back. We spent the first half investigating the Stars' wrongdoings then talked try-hard hockey players and misleading prospects. Later we covered audio engineering, Hockey WAR history, bad sports movies, and rivers.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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New York, as a state, is struggling. As certified East Coast Skeptics, we do some Sabres and Rangers forensic analysis, discuss alternative between-period entertainment options, break down defensive player types, and reminisce about our prior laughable models.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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We're back after an unexpectedly long absence while Shawn's on the road. In the first half we chat about the interesting nature of fandom. Later we evaluate some of the public team projection models, discuss Awards (against Shawn's will), and talk movies that make you feel terrible!By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 127: The Bruins, Free Agent Review (in-season), and ESPYs
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1:15:43We recorded several hours after the recent firing of Jim Montgomery. We spent the first half discussing the Bruins and similar teams out East. Later we checked in on recent additions from the summer, tried to figure out Seattle, and debated the validity of the 2005 Best Play ESPY.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 126: Everything GAR! Plus the Capitals and Jets
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1:08:47We recently released all of our GAR/xGAR/RAPM data along with every corresponding chart for the '24-25 season. We spent the first half covering the models and interesting early results. Later we tried our best to figure out the Capitals and praised the Jets.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 125: Go Vote! (Plus: Probability Theory and Division Roundups!)
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1:10:21It's election day! Please make sure you get out and vote! We spent the rest of the episode discussing shaky probability theory, potential GAR standouts, special team curiosities, mathematical education, solfège, and early-season division standouts.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 124: The Wild, TV, and Hockey Stats History
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1:06:41It's still a little too early to make "proper" evaluations of teams and players (GAR and RAPM aren't out yet), but that didn't stop us. In the first half we discussed declining NHL viewership and America's Team. Later we covered some site house cleaning items, interesting traded players, and hockey stats history.…
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Episode 123: Frozen Frenzy and Way Too Early Evaluations
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1:06:24We're once again delayed a day, which means we get to record during the early part of the Frozen Frenzy. We chat about this annual "tradition", the Predators surprising start, statistical uncertainty, Hellebuyck, the Sharks defensemen group, and classical composers.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 122: Week 1, Moneyball, and Jacks
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1:00:45We're (about) a week into the '24-25 NHL Regular season, and while there's little to talk about re: useful stats, there's plenty of hot takes to discuss. We battled through some Twin tech issues (it's fine) to cover Utah, Georgiev, the NHL schedule, surprises, and farm jacks.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 121: '24-25 NHL Regular Season Preview
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1:19:23A new NHL regular season begins today (sort of), and we're all in. We spent the whole episode discussing our team point projections for the coming year, our recent article, division strengths and weaknesses, cup favorites, and dark horses. Buckle up.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 120: NHL Offseason Review & Contract Model Evaluation
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59:36With our recent Free Agency Review article up on the site, it felt like a good time to devote an entire episode to it. We discussed our contract model's performance, outlier contracts, winners/losers of the summer, recent signings, and Gothenburg.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 119: Jarvis, Draisaitl, and Monetary Policy
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1:09:55We're back with a real doozy. Outside of a few rambling moments, we spent most of the episode discussing Seth Jarvis' new deal, contact structures, team/player benefits, SOFR, and modeling. If you're someone who enjoys numbers, this one is for you.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 118: Fantasy Projections, Offer Sheets, and Coffee Makers
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1:09:17We took a month off because, frankly, not much has happened and/or we all needed a long break away from hockey. But ... we're back in true and proper form. We discussed golf, coffee, offer sheets, our recently fantasy projections release, and the Minnesota State Fair all while kind of forgetting how to do a podcast episode. It's nice to be back.…
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Episode 117: League Round Up, Mailbag, and Cronenberg
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1:16:40We took a few weeks off to recover from July 1st, but we're back in full force with this rambling excursion. In the first half we covered recent NHL news, discussed Byfield's contract, and pondered the Sabres' status. Later we answered listener questions and talked films!By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 116: Around Free Agency in a Day
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1:18:01Even though it's only been two days, the NHL decided to spend a Billion dollars already. We spent the entire episode covering free agent signings, our contract model's performance, team evaluation, and winners/losers. This was chaos, just like Monday.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 115: 2024 NHL Free Agency Preview!
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1:20:20The Panthers! We spent the first half discussing the Final, team management, and general league happenings. In the second half, we took the timely opportunity to dive into Sabermetrics, WAR theory, and contracts while previewing this summer's Free Agency!By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 114: Stanley Cup Final & CapFriendly
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59:53We're two games into the 2024 Stanley Cup Final, and there's some stuff to discuss. In the first half we chat about our Cup projections and team construction/expectations. Later we discuss the recent CapFriendly news and contract data/information in general.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 113: Round 3 Recap, Stanley Cup Preview, and Generational Discussion
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1:04:49The 2024 Conference Finals have concluded, and we now move on to the Stanley Cup Final! in between we do our odd version of a post-mortem for the Rangers and Stars, discuss team construction, and ponder the meaning of "generational talent".By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 112: 2024 Conference Finals Preview!
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1:00:49In typical fashion, we're moving on to the Conference Finals with more pressing matters to discuss. In the first half we chatted about buyout structures, AI, and the Selke award. After the break we discussed second round results and our favorites for the Conference Finals!By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 111: Boston, Carolina, and Veracity
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46:15We're about halfway through the second round, and things are a little tense. Don't worry, we're here to alleviate your tension. We spent a full segment diving into the series (that we've watched), discussing the Canes and/or angry Rangers fans, and teaching Shawn the meaning of veracity.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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We're on to the second round of the 2024 NHL playoffs! We spent a full hour with no breaks discussing the first round and our models' thoughts on the second round while covering some interesting past playoff performances and geography.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 109: Round 1, Idioms, and Coffee
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1:03:58Round 1 of the 2024 NHL playoffs is halfway done, and we're here to discuss archaic idioms and our coffee habits instead. In between we spend the actual majority of our time covering the ongoing series, a few interesting statistical tidbits, and The Leafs.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 108: 2024 NHL Playoff Preview! Round 1
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1:18:30We're a few days late, but that's not our fault! The NHL decided to start the playoffs earlier than expected, so we're scrambling a bit to catch up. We spent the entire episode covering each of the first round series. In between there's some nonsense as usual.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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It's been a few weeks, but we're back to discuss... Kyle Dubas in the twitter replies. Later (and before) we chat about the terrible Eastern Conference wild card race, potential changes to the NHL playoff structure, shooting talent, and eclipses.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 106: Tanking, Models, and the Playoff Picture
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1:05:03It's that time of year again: bad teams. We use the Sharks and Blackhawks as a jumping off point to talk historically bad teams (the '92-93 Senators and Sharks), and then cover the current playoff picture. In the middle, we chat about preseason expectations and models.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 105: 3v3 Goalie Pulls, Twins, and Post-Tade Deadline
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1:15:45The NHL trade deadline came and went, but we had more important things on our minds: 4v3 strength states. In the first half, we talked twins, the Wild's bold 3v3 goalie pull, and scoring rates. Later, we did a full breakdown of the deadline!By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 104: Rempe, The Devils, and Wikipedia
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1:14:36With the trade deadline fast approaching, we first explained to Luke why everyone is talking about Matt Rempe and then cover the very recent Devils coaching change. Later we reminisce about Wikipedia-while-working and chat about the ongoing deadline happenings.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 103: Trade Deadline 2024 Extravaganza
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1:17:47We just published our '23-24 NHL trade deadline targets article on the site and spent well over an hour talking about our targets, the Evolving Tanev deal, and contending vs. non-contending teams. This one was a blast. Article can be found hereBy Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 102: Columbus, Jágr, and Trade Deadline Targets
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1:09:31We're back after a long holiday weekend to chat about Jarmo Kekäläinen's firing, the Blue Jackets, and the tank race. Later we cover some Jágr trivia, trade deadline (non-) targets, and music composition.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 101: NHL Audit, Empty Net Goals, and Vacuums
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1:02:09It's time for some data discussion! The NHL recently announced that they completed a season-long audit of their tracking methods, and we took this as an on-brand opportunity to spend the first half chatting about it. Later we discussed the awesome Greig empty-net slapshot, empty net goals in general, geography, and vacuums.…
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Episode 100: Trades, Rest of Season Predictions, and NHL Recitals
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1:05:37We're back - at our proper time! In the first half we discussed the All Star game, Lindholm & Monahan, the Canucks, and regional pronunciation. Later we talked NHL players in recital, expansion cities, and team predictions for the rest of the '23-24 season.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Evolving Hockey Guest Spot: Charlie O'Connor, Again!
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1:08:13It's our pleasure to welcome our first returning guest! Charlie, one of our favorite people in hockey, stopped by to chat about the Flyers' surprise season, the coaching and organizational overhaul, interesting players, Tyson Foerster, and some of our favorite albums from 2023. Charlie O'Connor can be found here: PHLY Sports Twitter In light of the…
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Episode 99: Fleury, The Blackhawks, and Technology
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1:11:01We're halfway through the season, and it's a perfect time to discuss some exceptionally bad teams. In the first half we chat about Fleury's recent climb among goalie greats and goalie stats this season. Later, we debate terrible rosters, fuel economy metrics, and historical stats.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 98: The PWHL, Gauthier / Drysdale, and Nylander
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1:17:33In rare form for this season, we've had some actual big news over the last week! In the first half, we chat about the early success of the PWHL and the unique Flyers / Ducks trade. In the second half, we discuss Nylander's extension, aging curves, and great hockey names.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 97: The Winter Classic, Preseason Expectations, and Airports
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1:13:04New Year, Same Us. We spent the first half discussing the Winter Classic, language stack exchanges, and airports. In the second half we chatted about public models, team performance relative to preseason expectations, and the state of public data/tracking in 2024.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 96: Naughty & Nice Lists, Twin Cities, and Olympic Rosters
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1:19:42It's Christmas Eve in podcast form, so we took a prompt from Shawn and spent the first half discussing our individually-defined naughty & nice lists for the NHL this season. In the second half we chatted about GRIT and stumbled into 2026 Olympic hockey roster speculation.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 95: Player Evaluation, Philosophy, and Ohtani
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1:09:49Last week we discussed a few others' award picks. This week, we used our own picks as a means to discuss player evaluation philosophy, under-looked players this season, and Connor Bedard. Later we talked Ohtani's new contract and NHL parallels.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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Episode 94: Awards Talk, The Sabres, and Geography
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1:12:06We're quite late, and that's the twins' fault. We spent the first half rambling about the crazy Pacific teams, handwriting, and some important geography. In the second half, however, we got serious: The Buffalo Sabres and Awards talk.By Evolving Hockey Staff
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