Dear Colleague- I hope this finds you well. I’m writing to share an exciting resource and ask for feedback. As you know, I’ve produced a podcast for a number of years. I’ve recently recorded the first of a series of interviews with my longtime mentor, Hans Stahlschmidt, PhD. Hans is a true master of the craft of psychotherapy and part of the PACT C…

Hello there. We have arrived at the final episode of Season 2 of Human Nurture. I'm Jason Brand, your host, a PACT level 3 therapist out of Berkeley, California. What a journey this has been— pandemic, shelter in place, tele-health, three couples and a whole lot of consultant interviews… AND… we made it. I’ve got a great final episode for you. Kris…

Hello and welcome to the final half of the final clinical interview of this season of Human Nurture. I’m Jason Brand, this season has been a deep dive into “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?!?” I’ve been answering it along with 3 wonderful couples and whole lot of consultants. Okay, without further ado, the second half of the Charley a…

Hello and welcome to The Human Nurture Podcast. I am your host Jason Brand, a couples therapist living and working in Berkeley, California. This season we have been asking the question, “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?!?” And we are down to the final couple and the final clinical interview of this season. Back again with Charley and …

Hi there. Welcome to Human Nurture. I'm your host Jason Brand a practicing couples therapist in Berkeley, California. This season of the podcast, what I've been doing is answering the question-- "How does a couples therapists learn to do that?" And I'm answering that question through actual couple interviews and then follow up interviews with consu…

Hi, welcome to Human Nurture. I'm your host Jason Brand, couples therapists out of Berkeley, California. This is the second half of the second couple clinical interview with Charley and Yael in my office. So we pick the interview up at the point where Charley's describing the bind he finds himself in when he gets angry during conflicts with the Yae…

Hi there. You're listening to Human Nurture. I'm your host Jason Brand. A PACT Level 3 therapist out of Berkeley, California. And this season, we're asking the question, how does a couple's therapist learned to do that? So, we give you an insider's view into couples therapy and the consultation sessions between couples therapists. What you're about…

This is Human Nurture. I’m Jason Brand, a couples therapist and we are asking the question– “How does a couples therapist learn to do their Job?” Today we’ve a consultant interview with Beth O’Brien. Beth is out of Fort Collins, Colorado. She’s a Level 3 PACT therapist, she’s a highly trained trauma therapist and I found out in the interview that s…

Welcome back to The Human Nurture Podcast where we ask the question– “How does a couples therapist learn to do that??!” I’m your host Jason Brand, a couples therapist trained in PACT - a Psychobiological Approach to Couples Therapy. Today, we are going to jump right into the second half of the first clinical interview with Charley and Yael. This ep…

Hello, and welcome to The Human Nurture Podcast. I'm Jason Brand a couples therapist from The City of Berkeley in The State of California and I'm your host. This season, we're asking the question– “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?!?” And we're doing it through long form interviews with actual couples and then feedback sessions where I…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello again, this is Jason Brand, the host of the Human Nurture Podcast. I'm a couples therapist in Berkeley, California and as you know, in this season, we've been exploring the “how to” of couples therapy. This episode is a little bit of a departure from the usual format. Editing my own interviews always comes along with some d…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi again. Welcome back. If you've come here for an interview between an actual couple and an actual couples therapist and you're asking yourself the question, “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?” Well, you're in the right place. I’m Jason Brand, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Berkeley and a PACT Level Three ther…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi there. Welcome to the Human Nurture Podcast. I'm Jason Brand, a couples therapist and your host. This season we're interviewing couples and getting consultation from my fellow PACT therapists. The podcast gives you an insider's view into how a couples therapist learns to do their job. In this episode, I get another opportunity…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi there. Time to get going on another leg of this season-long journey into “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?” I'm Jason Brand, this podcast is called Human Nurture and in this episode, I've got another wonderful PACT therapist along for the ride. My colleague Inga Gentile joins us from Oslo, Norway. Inga is a licen…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi there, I'm Jason Brand, I'm a couples therapist out of Berkeley, California and this is the Human Nurture Podcast. Going to keep this intro brief to get you quickly to the second half of the Ron and Chakaheir episode. If you're just jumping in now, please go back an episode and check the first half. Going to pick this up at th…

A NOTE FROM JASON: This is Human Nurture. I'm Jason brand, a psychotherapist in Berkeley, and the podcast covers the head-scratching question of how does a couples therapist learns to do that? A few episodes back, you met Ron and Chakahier. They're out of the Southern part of the United States and they've established separate domains inside their h…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi there. Ready to get prepped for another clinical interview with Ron and Chakaher? Well, this is the place. What you're about to hear is a conversation with my producer, Margaret Martin. You will recognize Margaret from a couple of episodes back, she's a wonderful PACT 3 therapists out of Austin, Texas, In this episode, Margare…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi again. In this episode I’ve got my colleague, John Guy along with me to reflect on the Ron and Chakahier initial couple clinical interview. John hails out of Seattle and he has a private practice seeing couples, a background in facilitating groups focused on race and gender and is a practicing Buddhist. I called John because I…

A NOTE FROM JASON: I'm excited to introduce to you our second couple of the season, Ron and Chakahier. I suggest that you go back an episode and listen to the 10 minute introduction that I did with my producer, Margaret Martin, to get situated for this interview. This is the first of three interviews that I did with Ron and Chakahier and of course …

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello and welcome to our second couple deep dive of the season! This season we are asking the question-- How does a couples therapist learn to do that?!? To introduce the second couple of the season, my producer for this leg of the journey Margaret Martin joins me. Margaret is out of Austin Texas and she’s a level 3 PACT therapis…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Greetings, this is the final episode of the first leg of this three part journey. Today we wrap up with our first couple Bart and Susan. In this first series of episodes, there has been a conversation going on behind the scenes with my producer Carolyn Sharp. The conversation has been about not only the content of what you have h…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello! So we are beginning to wrap up our time with the first couple of the season, Bart and Susan. What you are about to hear is a consultation interview with my level 3 PACT colleague, Debbie Campbell out of Dallas Texas. I don’t know if I’ve ever read a list of a persons background that better describes their clinical style an…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello from Berkeley- We all know the therapy cliches about how we end up marrying our parents or how our early childhoods lay out the behavior patterns of our functioning as adults. The cliches are true-- one way that we learn to help couples is by understanding models of human development and early relationship patterns. The the…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hey, I hope you got a chance to listen to the first half of the second interview with Bart and Susan. Just in case you are not up to speed, Bart and Susan are an engaged couple in their 50’s who have been together for 3 years. They face challenges around, “money, work and time” that keep them from moving securely towards marriage…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello and thanks for listening. So far this season we met our first couple, Bart and Susan, and then listened in on my consultation session with Hans Stahlschmidt. It’s now time to hear a follow up session with Bart and Susan. In the first interview with Bart and Susan, we heard the couple describe the very different ways they ma…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello - I hope you got a sense of what it’s like to be in the couples therapist’s chair in the clinical interview with Bart and Susan. In this episode, I’m excited to give you a sense of what a consultation interview between therapists sounds like. My colleague and mentor Hans Stahlschmidt joins me as we discuss his impressions o…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi Again- In this second half of our first couple clinical interview we finish up the interview with Bart and Susan. On the surface, their challenge in moving their relationship forward is about money, time and work, however, as we get into the session we find that the question of managing feelings of inadequacy is really where t…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hello Again- In this first half of our first couple clinical interview we meet Bart and Susan. On the surface, their challenge in moving forward in their relation is about money, time and work, however, as we get into the session we find that the question of managing feelings of inadequacy is really where the help is needed. ABOU…

A NOTE FROM JASON: Hi there- In this introductory episode you will meet the 3 couples that will be featured throughout the season, hear about the process of making season 2 of the podcast and get some tips for listening with the ear of a psychobiologist. Thank you for checking it out. JB ABOUT SEASON 2 of HUMAN NURTURE: Hosted by Jason Brand, LCSW …

We have arrived at the final episode of Season 1 of Human Nurture! Not only is this the finale, it is also about attachment theory-- one of PACT's main ingredients -- and it features the renowned researcher Ed Tronick. Ed joins us with his co-author Claudia Gold to discuss their recently released book, The Power of Discord. Ed and Claudia offer a t…

In April of 2020, Rob Fisher joined us for the Somatic Episode (Episode #11) and I rushed it out because it provided some much needed grounding as COVID-19 began spreading to the United States and we entered into those early days of sheltering in place. Releasing the episode quickly meant that I was unable to get Stan Tatkin's take on the interview…

We are getting close to the end of this first season of the Human Nurture Podcast as we do our deep dive into the underlying elements of the Psychobiological Approach to Couples Therapy. This episode is a second look at somatic therapy as seen through the perspective of Marjorie Rand, a long time Integrative Body Psychotherapist. Marjorie co-author…

In this episode we delve into the underlying PACT element of neuroscience in interviews with Lou Cozolino and Stan Tatkin. Dr. Cozolino is a professor at Pepperdine University and the author of numerous books and articles about the overlap of developmental neuroscience and psychotherapy. Dr. Tatkin is the founder of the PACT Institute and has writt…

In this quarantine bonus episode I check-in with my PACT colleagues a few weeks after we published our article about adapting PACT therapy to telehealth. We discuss the ups and downs of life as a couples therapist behind a digital screen and share our observations about what the couples we work with are facing during the COVID19 pandemic. Here is a…

I thought it would be helpful to have Rob Fisher's couple meditation as a separate mp3 file. Enjoy! Resources----- Rob's website: https://robfishermft.com/ Rob's book: https://www.amazon.com/Experiential-Psychotherapy-Couples-Creative-Pragmatist-ebook/dp/B014JMZE96/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rob+fisher+mft&qid=1586648062&sr=8-1 Rob helps translat…

In this episode, we explore the underlying PACT element of somatic practice with Rob Fisher, MFT. The episode was scheduled for release in June, however, it feels important to make it immediately available as we grapple with with the uncertainty of the COVID-19 outbreak. Talking to Rob would have been helpful at any time but during this unprecedent…

"What really grounds PACT is its emphasis on Social Justice theory and the idea that couples must have a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning, a shared vision, a shared mythology for why they are together above and beyond the ephemeral and changeable elements such as new love, romantic love, attractions or common interests." This is Stan Tatkin, th…

Over the past couple of weeks, we have all been living through a huge shift in our lives due to the outbreak of the Covid-19 virus. For PACT therapists, this has meant moving our work as couples therapists from our offices to online. For many of us, myself included, this has come with quite a bit of worry about the effectiveness of working online, …

In episode 8 of Human Nurture, we explore PACT's core element of meditation with George Haas the founder of Mettagroup, a meditation center in Los Angeles. We are also joined by Stan Tatkin, the founder of PACT as he reflects on the interview with George and talks about the influence of meditation on PACT theory and practice. George's training and …

Special Bonus Episode- Jeff Zeig joins us again to talk about The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference coming up in Anaheim, December 9-13, 2020. For more info on the conference: https://www.evolutionofpsychotherapy.com/By humannurture

As PACT therapists we need to quickly organize a great deal of information within a reliable yet flexible structure while still remaining present with the action unfolding between the couple. In order to do this, we rely heavily on the theory and practice developed by family therapists. In this episode of The Human Nurture Podcast, we explore PACT'…

The difficulty of learning object relations theory, frustrates you and makes you feel like a bad therapist, however, if you listen to this episode it is an opportunity to get more comfortable with the theory and it’s clinical applications. You see what I did there? I used James Masterson’s intervention strategy (pain, self, defense) to encourage se…

In this 4th episode of the Human Nurture Podcast - Season 1 - PACT in Theory, we take a look into the core element of Gestalt Therapy. In the intro interview, Stan explains Gestalt's influence on PACT as, "the importance of discovery," "being in the present moment," and "staying within the intersubjective field." Our guest, Robert W. Resnick, PhD h…

Episode 3 of the The Human Nature Podcast covers the core element of trance. It features Jeffrey Zeig, PhD and an introductory conversation about trance and PACT with Stan Tatkin. Jeff has an encyclopedic knowledge of not only hypnosis/trance but also the history and people that have created psychotherapy as we know it today. He is the perfect guid…

The second episode is an interview with David K. Reynolds. David, is the creator of Constructive Living. Constructive Living is based on Morita Therapy and the Naikan mindfulness practice both of which originated in Japan. PACT's emphasis on "outside focused attention" and doing what needs to be done to promote secure functioning come from Construc…

This first episode is an introduction to the podcast. It features an interview with Stan about the theories behind PACT and how they come together in our work with promoting secure functioning in couples therapy. The episode also looks into how Stan approaches research and stays open and excited in his own learning process.…