This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and ...
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S7E2 - Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the contentious topic of "Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators." With a mix of humor and candidness, they explore the distinctions between true expertise and the rise of social media personalities.The episode opens with Jenn and Daren discussing the importance of understanding the difference between e…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren launch the seventh season by diving into the nuanced topic of boundaries versus walls. They discuss their personal journeys and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in various aspects of life, from relationships to social media to work environments.The episode begins with Jenn sharing insights from Nedra Taww…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the significance of Black lesbian visibility during Pride Month. With a mix of humor and heartfelt reflection, they explore the resurgence of Black lesbian representation in media and society, emphasizing why it matters now more than ever.The episode kicks off with Jenn and Daren sharing their excitement f…
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S6E9 - Black Workers and Disney’s Exploitation of Labor
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the exploitation of Black labor, drawing from their personal experiences working for Disney. They shed light on the harsh realities faced by Disney workers, particularly Black employees, and discuss the broader implications of these labor practices within the context of American capitalism.The episode …
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the harrowing topic of domestic violence and physical abuse, focusing on the entertainment and music industries where violence against women, especially Black women, is rampant. They urge listeners to take care of themselves and provide resources for victims and survivors of abuse at the end of the episode…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren ask the questions “what qualifies as rest” and "what does it take for rest to qualify as resistance?”In the first segment, Jenn shares an Instagram conversation that sparked the episode's theme. They question if rest, defined as the absence of activity, can be considered a form of resistance. They reference Dr. Trici…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring to light April as Autism Acceptance Month by highlighting the unique experience of being Black and neurodivergent, focusing specifically on autism. In the first segment, Jenn shares their own experience of being a Black neurodivergent person and conversations they had online with Black autistic people around th…
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S6E5 - Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren highlight Sexual Assault and Prevention Month. In the first segment, Jenn shares how sexual assault is an unavoidable part of her Black Politics course, and Daren shares his experience watching the “Quiet On Set” documentary that exposes the mistreatment and abuse of child actors at Nickelodeon during the 1990’s.In t…
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S6E4 - RUNDOWN | Amanda Seales, Diddy, and Gabrielle Confederacy
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In this Rundown episode, Jenn and Daren get caught up on recent pop culture news. They start off talking about how apt it is that during Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month, it appears that accused abusers like Sea “Diddy” Combs and Russell Simmons are being held accountable. While they are not advocates of the carceral system of punishme…
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In this “Where Have You Been?” episode, Jenn and Daren let everyone know where they have been for the last few weeks. They start things off by talking about their recent spot in Huffington Post Black Voices series “Black Love on Our Terms,” in which they share how their relationship works and how others can use their model to find love on their own…
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S6E2 - The Rundown | HISS, Big Foot, and “I Don’t Unbend My Elbows Barbie”
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In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren catch up on important happenings from the last few weeks. In the first segment, they recap the high points of Megan Thee Stallion’s “HISS” and Nicki Minaj’s failure of a response “Big Foot.”In the second segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the wins Black folx took home from the 2024 Grammys and Oscars, celebrat…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren welcome everyone into the new year with an update on everything that is going on with them. Since the end of the last season, Jenn’s book "Black Women Taught Us" is available for purchase, Daren had eye surgery, and they have released people who couldn’t respect boundaries. They urge everyone listening to radically c…
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S5E10 - Poly For The Holidays Part 2: Letting People Go
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In this second part of their holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about the importance of chosen family, and not just for queer communities. With Jenn’s partner Jamelle as a guest, they share how they celebrated the holiday season together as a poly family.In survey after survey, it shows that people, especially younger generations, are incr…
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S5E9 - Poly For The Holidays Part 1: Chosen Family
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In this holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about how celebrating the holidays in a non-traditional way can sometimes be the way that best serves you. The queer community has a legacy of chosen families, building families not based on blood but based on the community that loves and supports you. For much of their lives, Jenn and Daren opera…
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In this queer themed episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate LGBT History Month and Asexuality Awareness Week by marking the importance of “self-naming” and the power of being able to define yourself for yourself outside of society’s rules and standards. They talk about vulnerable queer youth and how self-naming can be a source of empowerment for them, a…
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren mark World Mental Health Day (October 10) with a much needed mental health check-in. As the season changes, temperatures drop, and the state of the world is constantly changing, it is important that we check-in with ourselves and with each other to make sure that we are each OK.They emphasize how the trauma of going …
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S5E6 - The Rundown | Acknowledging Black Women’s Brilliance
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In this rundown of topical matters, Jenn and Daren celebrate the sheer brilliance of Black women. They start with using Drake’s recent conflict with Halle Berry as an example of how not to treat Black women. Next is a walkthrough or recent major wins for Black women, ranging from the global economic impact Beyonce’s Renaissance tour to the enduring…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate September (Virgo Season) and update everyone on where they have been. They also explain how important literacy is and how comic books play a part in not just bringing young people to reading but also helping minority and queer readers see themselves reflected in print.In the second segment, they discus…
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S5E4 - Understanding The Roots of Black August
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In this episode spotlighting Black August, Jenn and Daren talk through the legacy of the Black radical tradition, from the Haitian Revolution to today.In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the limited amount of Black history that they were taught in their youth and how that history tended to skew towards elements that support capitalism. But…
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S5E3 - Hip-Hop, Hoochie Daddies, and Montgomery
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren reflect on 3 expressions of Blackness that brought them joy this week: the 50th anniversary Hip-Hop, the reality show “Hoochie Daddies,” and Montgomery Riverfront Beat-down.They opine on the beauty of Black solidarity and folding chairs, share how Hip-Hop has been a triumph and how it has let us down, and explain why…
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S5E2 - Navigating Disability and Gender Policing
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In this episode, Jenn and Daren meditate on the ways that our own experiences with disability policing dovetails with other forms of anti-Black policing in society. We expand the conversation about Disability Pride Month to have a conversation about how our intersectional identities should be considered especially when we discuss our disabilities. …
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In the opening episode for season 5, Jenn and Daren focus on the laundry list of obstacles that are facing marginalized people and why it is that much more important to support Black creatives in these times. From Supreme Curt decisions legalizing discrimination and striking down affirmative action to book bans and the proliferation of DEI(&A) init…
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S4E10 - Mental Health Awareness Month Debrief
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To close out May/Mental Health Awareness Month, Jenn and Daren recap how the month went for them and just how much they focused on their own mental health. A typically busy month for most people due to annual celebrations like the end of school years and Mother's Day, it is a partiularly busy month for them as they also celebrate Daren's birthday a…
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Jenn and Daren take a different approach to Mental Health Awareness month in this episode, talking about the self care habits that have worked for them personally instead of focusing on how poor mental health can lead to negative outcomes. In this conversational format, Jenn and Daren ask each other questions about their own self care journeys and …
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Jenn and Daren highlight the dangers of burnout and how this can have heightened impacts for marginalized communities in this 4/20 themed episode. While many people think that sleeping in over the weekend can cure their burnout, the side effects of burnout can extend for anywhere from one year to ten years. This is why it is so important to priorit…
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S4E7: Honoring Black Poets and the Struggle of Being a Black Writer
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Jenn and Daren tribute Black writers in this episode for National Poetry Month. They start by highlighting Black poets that every reader should have on their pull list including Nate Marshall, Claudia Rankine, and Donika Kelly. Daren then dives into hard facts and figures related to how white-dominated the writing and publishing industry is, and ho…
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S4E6: The Rundown | "Swarm" and the Push to Ban TikTok
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In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren laugh and chat their way through the current events stuck on their minds. First, they pay homage and mourn the loss of fan favorite actor Lance Reddick and comment on how we are losing Black men at younger ages. Check on your Black man friend today.Then they run through a collection of topics from the looming…
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S4E5: Giving Black Trans Women Their Flowers | Women’s History Month
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In this Womens History Month episode, Jenn and Daren discuss the high-profile threats to transgender people and why this is even more reason to spotlight them during month. Recent comments from Republicans at the CPAC conference and from famed writer Alice Walker prove how important it is for us to always center and elevate the experiences of all B…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain how attacks on Critical Race Theory (CRT) and "Look What I Can Do" culture can hinder Black Excellence. In the second segment, they discuss how Black folx endorsing damaging messaging and white women acting as stand-ins for diversity are perfect examples of how gatekeeping holds us back and why we need t…
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S4E3: Exploring the Legacy of Black Creatives
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In this Black History Month episode honoring the legacy of Black creatives, Jenn and Daren share some of their favorite Black creatives from the old school, contemporary times, and present day.In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about the legendary and super Black contributions of Ma Rainey and Henry Ossawa Tanner. In the second segment, they…
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S4 Bonus E1 : Kenya Barris Doesn’t Love Us
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain that they like to watch bad movies, but “You People” is not the enjoyable kind of bad movie.In the second segment, they give a quick synopsis of the movie and discuss a litany of issues that this movie has, including implicit racism, gross misrepresentations of Los Angeles, and simple lazy writing.In the…
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S4E2 : THE RUNDOWN - The Good, The Bad and The Corny
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight Jenn’s recent talk on polyamory and the breakthrough nominations for the The 95th Academy Awards (2023).In the second segment, they discuss how corny white conservative s are showing up in the news, from trying to legislate away drag queens to Florida’s war on “wokeness.”In the third segment, Jenn and …
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S4E1 : Transforming Black Political Futures
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Jenn and Daren open season 4 of That Black Couple exploring what the political futures of Black folx looks like. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their feelings about recent political developments like the "Red Wave" that wasn't and the historic and embarrassing vote for the Speaker of the House. In the second segment, they discuss the im…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the most important things they learned in 2022, including not to overthink things and that you are enough all by yourself.In the second segment, they discuss the things they will be taking with them into 2023, from having more confidence and self-assurance to clarity around wants, goals, and personal …
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S3E43: Black Masculinity, Manhood, and Mental Health
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren mourn the loss of Stephen “tWitch” Boss, other recent celebrity losses, and how so many people in society don’t understand that the personas celebrities put forth are not the entirety of who they are.In the second segment, they discuss the rising rates of suicide in the Black community and do a deep dive on what…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren detail the problem with centering pain in Black narratives and how white people struggle to understand Black characters without pain as an entry point.In the second segment, Jenn and Daren rave about the brilliance of “The Woman King”, Lashana Lynch, the film’s costuming department, and John Boyega’s twist out. …
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain where they have been for the last month and detail the initiatives you should tap into like the Black Feminist Book Club and thri upcoming Author Series.In the second segment, Daren asks “Who really cares about the Queen?” and Jenn talks through why we are not obligated to mourn her loss.In the third seg…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren speak about the brilliance of Jordan Peele’s NOPE and Beyoncé’s Renaissance and how we should all be putting respect on the names of artists that elevate artistry.In the second segment, Jenn and Daren talk through Britney Griner’s current situation and how it speaks volumes about the disparities in professional…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how Kendrick Lamar's "Family Time" exposes the complexities of "daddy issues".In the second segment, Daren lays out the stats around fatherhood and single motherhood in America, and Jenn makes it plain how imperative it is that children seek therapy to deal with their daddy issues and that we focus on th…
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren spotlight the intersection of Black Music Appreciation Month and how much of a tragedy it is that we will never "know know" the truth about Luther Vandross. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren share their own experiences of how they came to understand and accept their queerness. In the third segment, Jenn and …
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the current threats to Roe v. Wade and how the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars brought discussions around toxic masculinity to the forefront.In the second segment, they bring up a range of current examples of toxic (Black) masculinity including Kevin Samuels and Tory Lanez.I…
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S3E36 - Black Women and the Downside of Being the First
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate the landmark confirmation of Ketanji Brown Jackson to the U.S. Supreme Court and the burden that she will need to bear as a result.In the second segment, they discuss why celebrating “firsts” for Black people can be complex and problematic and ask if the “race for firsts” is even a good thing for Black…
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S3E35 - Petty Politics: Rihanna, Kanye, and Ukraine
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their current favorite things, including PJ Morton and JoJo’s new song “My Peace” and the Peacock show “Bel-Air.”In the second segment, they talk through how Kim and Kanye’s divorce shows that stalking and harassment are never OK, why everybody needs to stay up to date on the war in Ukraine, and how people…
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S3E34 - The Black Futures Episode: How To Move as a Healing Black Person in 2022
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the recent increase in Black deaths from suicide and why it is imperative that we seek healing in 2022.In the second segment, they discuss bell hooks’s book Sisters of the Yam, talk through the troubling statistics around Black mental health, and share their “4 Steps to Moving as a Healing Black Person…
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S3E33 - bell hooks, breakups and Blackness
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Jenn and Daren start season 3 of That Black Couple with a rundown episode covering some of the hottest topics of the month.In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share what has been on their minds like the little known long-term success of recent chart topper Muni Long (Hrs And Hrs), the merits of white on white violence in HBO’s Euphoria, why they’d…
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S2E32 - Looking Forward: What's Next for That Black Couple?
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Jenn and Daren close out the season looking back at how far they’ve come in the 5 years that they’ve been creating the That Black Couple podcast and announce what listeners have to look forward to in 2022.In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about what changes you can expect in season 3 of TBC. All of the graphics will be getting a facelift, a…
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S2E31 - The Looking Back Episode: Our Favorite Moments in the First 2 Seasons
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren laugh their way through their favorite drags of the first 2 seasons, focusing on what makes Kenya Barris's shows tick and why white people should be cleaning up after Octavia Spencer for the rest of her life.In the second segment, they discuss their favorite intellectual moments of the first 2 seasons from the "…
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S2E30 - Black Healing and Trauma During COVID-19
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In the first segment "First Things First," Jenn and Daren talk about how important it is to take lessons from the past year or two since COVID-19. For Black people, this time has shown us exactly how anti-Black and white supremacist these institutions are and how they often harm Black life. In the second segment, "The Conversation," Daren shares th…
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S2E29 - Why Young Black Folx Are Leaving The Black Church
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through their own relationship with the church and spirituality and the difficulty they had in finding a church for their own family.In the second segment, they invite Jenn’s partner Tia into the conversation to discuss why Black millennials are leaving the church and how they have come to adopt alternative…
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S2E28 - That (Queer) Black Couple: Gender Fluidity and Asexuality
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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through how the COVID-19 pandemic has been an opportunity for self-exploration and the start of new ventures.In the second segment, they discuss how they discovered their own sexual (asexual) and gender (gender fluid/genderqueer) identities and what those identities mean.In the third segment, Jenn and Daren…
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