Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (COO). The two co-founded software company Appvia, have backgrounds in engineering and platform development, with years of experience using Kubernetes. Here they take a light-hearted look at cloud engineering under the lens of platform teams. Discussing how developers, platform engineers, and businesses can leverage cloud-native software development practices successfully.
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AI Monopoly Madness: Microsoft’s Moves and the Future of ChatGPT! | Episode 39
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In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Lewis and Jon explore the latest in AI and cloud computing, discussing Microsoft's board changes and the evolving AI landscape. They also examine the practical applications of ChatGPT and its impact. Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/clo…
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CIO of Sportradar, Ian Poland: How to manage your cloud spend well, career journey to CIO | Episode 38
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Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podc…
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GitOps: The gaps it has and what can be done about it! | Episode 37
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In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon to discuss the challenges of the Gitops model, what's good about it and where it is lacking! Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: ht…
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Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines with Lewis Marshall and Mark Hughes Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines | Episode 36
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In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon in the unknown of Open Source, Cyber Security and the takeover of cars and rogue washing machines! Is Open source a risk for companies to adopt? What assurances are there around it? And What are we doing collectively to help support the maintenance of open-source projects that don't have e…
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Head of Engineering of Moonpig, Richard Pearson: Career Progression, Leadership and Enablement teams | Episode 35
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Richard Pearson joins The Cloud Unplugged podcast to talk discuss his career journey to become Head of Engineering at Moonpig. We take a look at how he began his career, from studying AI to working for an ISP and now heading up Engineering at Moonpig. We also discuss what the engineering function at Moonpig looks like, how the teams are structured …
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Product vs. Program, what's the difference and do you really need them? | Episode 34
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Jon and Jay sit down to discuss what a program is, what a product is and what the difference between the two is. Are they company-specific and completely unrelated, or, are they reliant on each other? This light-hearted episode covers the ins and outs of products and programs. Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social medi…
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The importance of consistency in cloud infrastructure: Cloud Landing Zones | Episode 33
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CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.link…
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Rafe Colburn, Depop (owned by Etsy). Pitfalls of measuring engineering productivity | Episode 32
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CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.link…
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Dean Bryen, CTO of Cloud UBS maintaining innovation with new technologies | Episode 31
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CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.link…
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Idriss Selhoum, Marks & Spencer's cloud adoption journey | Episode 30
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David Heinemeier Hansson, 37 Signals & Ruby on Rails. Rent vs buy: do cloud providers really save companies money? | Episode 29
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Matthew Skelton, Team Topologies, the complexities of managing team in the modern workplace | Episode 28
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What is Culture in the Modern Workplace? | Episode 27
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Viktor Farcic, Upbound. Platform Engineering, Role Evolution and Optimisation | Episode 26
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Product Manager vs. Product Owner, is there a difference and do you need one? | Episode 25
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Product management versus delivery management... two distinct but complementary roles within a company, each serving essential purposes. Understanding their significance can shed light on their importance to an organisation. Some may argue that both are essential, while others might contend that product management alone is enough. Let's explore and…
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Nicholas Chang & Steve Nicholl, Kainos. Navigating Cloud Adoption | Episode 24
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In this episode of The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, Nicholas Chang, and Steve Nicholl, from Kainos, join Jon to share insights on the challenges of navigating cloud adoption framework, platform engineering, and the significance of collaboration in the industry. They cover keeping up with the rapidly evolving cloud technologies through social networking…
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Chris Stura, PwC UK. Platform Engineering & Business Success | Episode 23
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Jon sits down with Chris Stura, Director of Financial Services at PwC. Together, Jon and Chris delve into the realm of cloud computing and software development, highlighting the challenges that businesses in the technology sector face. Gain valuable insights on leveraging technology for business success and the crucial role of integrating technolog…
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Colin Humphreys, Syntasso. Anti-Patterns Exposed: Building Platforms the Right Way | Episode 22
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In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Jon sits down with Colin Humphreys, CEO & Co-Founder of Syntasso. The two tackle the confusing jargon prevalent in the cloud industry and its impact on effective communication, they delve into the significance of product management and design as crucial elements of platform engineering, and they relive the challe…
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Haseeb Budhani, Rafay Systems. Bridging the Gap: Development and Developer Experience | Episode 21
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In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, host Jon is joined by Haseeb Budhani, the Co-founder and CEO of Rafay Systems. Rafay Systems is at the forefront of delivering cloud-native Kubernetes management and operation solutions to corporations and managed services. Jon and Haseeb explore the thought-provoking topic of build vs. buy in the platform engine…
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Richard Simon, T-Systems. Every Cloud Migration Has a Silver Lining | Episode 20
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Jay is joined by Richard Simon, CTO at T-Systems, a business that drives digital transformation for companies by offering integrated end-to-end IT solutions. Jay and Richard discuss the four stages of cloud migration, how to establish a Cloud Centre of Excellence, what polycloud is, and why you need more than a hammer to build a house. Richard Link…
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Charles Humble, Container Solutions. Technical Writing in the Cloud Era | Episode 19
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In this episode, Jay is accompanied by Charles Humble, the Editor-in-Chief at Container Solutions, a cloud native consultancy. Having the benefit of being a writer in such a technical field, Charles brings a fascinating perspective to cloud discussion. Together, Jay and Charles discuss working remotely in the cloud space, why some companies fail at…
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Kasper von Grünberg, Humanitec. What it Means to be a Platform Engineer | Episode 18
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This time on Cloud Unplugged, hosts Jon and Jay are joined by Kaspar von Grünberg, the Founder and CEO of Humanitec. Working as a platform orchestrator, Humanitec is a product that enables companies to build internal developer platforms. In the episode, Jon, Jay and Kaspar discuss what it means to be a platform engineer, if the industry has a measu…
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Optimal Platform Engineering Team Sizes | Episode 17
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In this episode, Jon and Jay discuss the ideal sizes for platform engineering teams. During the course of their conversation, the pair talk through ways to optimise team size to ensure business efficiency, what an ideal platform team size ratio would be, why some platform teams have become bloated, and hypothesise about the concept of a ‘zero-perso…
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Enabling Developer Self-Service with Existing Technologies | Episode 16
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In this episode, Jon and Jay explain how platform engineers can enable developer self-service with existing technologies. They touch on the evolution of self-service, and how cloud technology has made it easier to do well. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud…
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The State of DevOps Report 2023 | Episode 15
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Jon and Jay analyse the findings of Puppet’s recent report on the state of DevOps and platform engineering. The pair discuss what they thought was lacking from the report, the difference between platform teams and platform engineering teams, and Jon finds an excuse to have a rant about the term 'cognitive load'. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@…
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Teams and Talent: Unlocking Team Potential with OKRs | Episode 14
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Jon and Jay discuss the best ways to manage and lead platform engineering teams. Sharing what they've learnt from running their own business, Jon and Jay talk through setting objectives and key results (OKRs) that are anchored to business goals, the importance of diversity and collaboration, and secrets to unlocking talent and potential amongst you…
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Cloud Platform Engineering: Saving Time, Money and Effort | Episode 13
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Jon and Jay tackle the complexities of cloud platform engineering, including cognitive load, the total cost of ownership, public and private cloud, and more. Learn how to save time, money, and effort by taking advantage of cloud services while managing cost and security properly CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social…
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Single or Multi-Tenant Clusters: Security | Episode 12
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This time, Jon and Jay take a deep dive into the security decisions surrounding single and multi-tenancy on Kubernetes cluster architectures. Covering everything from role-based access control to, encrypting secrets stored in the cloud, and process isolation to root read-only file systems. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow u…
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Single or Multi-Tenant Clusters: When and Why | Episode 11
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Jon and Jay get stuck into the concept of single versus multi-tenancy in Kubernetes cluster architectures. They talk through the decision criteria on when to go single tenancy and when to go multi-tenancy, addressing the compromises you may be making when you share infrastructure... and whether Jon can say "Goodbye" in French. CU Youtube https://ww…
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Cloud Strategy: What Is It and Why You Need One? | Episode 10
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In this episode, Jon and Jay dive into what exactly a cloud strategy is, how it differs from a business plan and how to measure its success. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https…
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The importance of DevExp for larger developer teams | Episode 9
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Jon and Jay dive into what a good developer experience really is, from writing code to troubleshooting. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Pod…
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Day 0, 1 & 2. Decision making in cloud deployment | Episode 8
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Jon and Jay discuss what Day 0, 1 and 2 mean in cloud deployment and touch on the role of platform teams and developers during these stages. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https…
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Bryan Ross, VMware Tanzu. What makes a Successful Platform Team? | Episode 7
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Bryan Ross joins Jon on the podcast, discussing the process of building a developer platform in enterprise organisations while ensuring true value is understood and measured. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloud…
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Richard Smith, Codification.io. Common Cloud Struggles with DevOps Teams | Episode 6
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Richard Smith from Codification.io joins the podcast. He has helped build several enterprise cloud-native platforms, often modernising legacy applications with the Cloud. The key player involved in the DevOps team, and especially during a transformation, there are some everyday struggles. Richard shares the common DevOps struggles that he witnessed…
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Build vs. Buy, Cloud Platforms | Episode 5
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You wouldn’t build your own car, so why would you build your own platform? Jon and Jay consider the pros and cons of building your own. Spoiler alert: they advise against it. Cloud provides innovation behind the scenes, whereas building your own means you have to hire a team and sink enormous costs before providing any business value. CU Youtube ht…
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Jon and Jay discuss models to implement at a non-enterprise level. Looking into squads, chapters, agile delivery teams, platforms, and cloud delivery. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spot…
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Is there a place for DevOps in a Cloud Native world? What does Cloud Native really mean? CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://…
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Avoiding the Cloud Money Trap | Episode 2
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People are the most expensive resource in any organisation. Jon and Jay discuss how much can you outsource/insource while remaining lean and ensuring secure application delivery in the cloud. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.…
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Authentication & Authorisation: Best Practices in the Cloud | Episode 1
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On this Episode of Cloud Unplugged, Jon and Jay cover authentication and authorisation best practices, avoiding complications with multiple teams and projects. Topics include the importance of establishing SSO, using a single identity from the get-go and authorising and managing access for various groups across the 3 main cloud vendors. CU Youtube …
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