Prepare to be amazed as we sit down with the extraordinary magician, Chris Michael! From his early days inspired by a local librarian magician to captivating audiences at high-profile corporate events, Chris’s journey is nothing short of magical. He shares heartfelt stories about the emotional bonds formed through magic, particularly with his mothe…

Unlock the secrets to booking your own magic shows and lectures as you follow my whirlwind journey through August! In this episode of Discourse in Magic I’ll take you on a thrilling tour that begins at the Magic Live convention in Las Vegas, sweeps through a performance in LA, includes a business convention in Fiji, and features lectures in both Sy…

Renowned magic consultant Rory Adams joins us to share his incredible journey from a childhood fascination with magic, sparked by his grandfather’s box of tricks, to a decade-long career in magic TV show writing. Discover how his innovative approach of posting daily magic tricks on Instagram led to a consulting gig with Dynamo and paved the way for…

Unlock the secrets to producing successful public ticketed magic shows with me, Jonah Babins. This episode pulls back the curtain on the often unseen challenges and rewards of organizing these captivating events. From the intensive workload involved in venue selection, marketing, and ticket sales to the financial realities that can make or break yo…

Discover the remarkable journey of Spanish magician Jandro in this captivating episode of Discourse in Magic. Inspired by the legendary Juan Tamariz, Jandro recounts his serendipitous discovery of a local magician’s academy in Valencia and his evolution into a renowned magician and TV personality. With anecdotes from his 15-year tenure on a Spanish…

Unlock the secrets to making your magic performances more natural and convincing. Join Jonah Babins as he reveals his three favorite magic projects that have profoundly influenced his approach to magic and performance. From magic theory to practical techniques, these projects have reshaped his understanding and execution of the craft. Whether you’r…

Legendary magician Gaetan Bloom joins us to share his journey from a curious child to becoming an iconic figure in the world of magic. Throughout our conversation, Gaetan opens up about the pivotal mentors who shaped his path and how these relationships inspired his most famous tricks. He discusses his innovative approach to magic, which involves t…

What if charging $250 per show is the very thing holding you back from building a $100,000 magic business? This episode of Discourse in Magic, hosted by Jonah Babins, dives into the powerful strategy of reverse engineering your way to a six-figure income in the magic industry. Do the math! Drawing from his unique background in pure math and his exp…

Jeki Yoo joins host Jonah Babins to discuss his magic journey, experiences in competitions, and his unique approach to crafting magic for television and social media. They explore the magic scene in South Korea and delve into Jeki’s process of creating engaging pop-up magic videos, which can take weeks to perfect. Jeki shares his organizational met…

In this episode of the “Discourse in Magic” podcast, host Jonah Babins discusses the ten-hour rule for running a magic business. He advises magicians to limit administrative work to ten hours a week to focus on performance and creativity. Three ways to stop wasting time: Ineffective tasks should be stopped Effective tasks should be optimized or sca…

In this episode of “Discourse in Magic,” host Jonah Babins interviews Franz Harary, a renowned magician and illusion designer. Franz shares his magical journey, starting with a childhood magic set that sparked his interest in fooling adults and led to his passion for creating original illusions. A journey into magic and illusion design Franz recoun…

In this episode of “Discourse in Magic,” host Jonah Babins shares the exciting news about the podcast’s return. Listeners can look forward to fresh interviews and episodes covering a wide range of topics within the magic community. Jonah’s “Fool Us” Jonah discusses his recent experiences, including his appearances on the television show “Fool Us.” …

Jonah returns from the wild to let you know that tomorrow, November 9 2023, he and Ben Train will be appearing for the second time on Penn & Teller’s Fool Us! In this special magic appetizer, Jonah offers up the three biggest lessons he learned on his second appearance of Fool Us and why you should apply to appear on this show or any other. Lesson …

Jonah is joined by Juan Esteban Varela, a master at performing without props. Juan is the mind behind Magic in the Dark and in this conversation he talks all about it, about magic without props, and shares his personal story through magic and how wonderful it is. Moving to Madrid Like many others, Juan got bit by the magic bug at a very young age a…

In this magical appetizer, Jonah makes a case for counting tricks. Love them or hate them Jonah is convinced that they should be a staple trick in your roster and lays out his reasons why. Specifically we are discussing one type of card trick, the counting card trick, where you end up counting to a number. It could be any number, a card, a position…

Jonah is joined by Dustin Dean, an incredible mentalist who you may have seen on your TikTok feed. He has over half a million followers and countless videos with millions of views. In this conversation we’ll learn all about his success, how you can get into growing your social media presence, and how to thread the line between fooling your audience…

In this magic appetizer Jonah offers up three ways that you can grow your business to making more than 3k a month in the next six months. In the past Jonah has taught master classes and entry-level classes for magicians looking to increase their business and in this episode he’s going to share his insights on the three biggest mistakes that new mag…

In this magic appetizer Jonah offers up three things that you may want to think about when you are creating magic, making routines, and putting stuff out in the world. #1: Clarity Comes from Action and Not Thought When you are coming up with an idea or when you are working on something, it rarely feels like you’re gaining ground when you are just s…

Jonah is joined by David Gerard, a magician who started later in life after a career working in silicon valley marketing for startups. David’s unique background and experiences blends perfectly with Jonah’s interests and curiosity in this conversation that covers everything from how to face the harsh reality of criticism and examining what it feels…

Today Jonah talks about how to sell tickets to your public magic show by offering up four ways that you can use to sell out your public ticketed magic show. Tip #1: Submit to Listings This is an easy one, an obvious one, and one that you should always be doing. submit to listings all over your city. There are journals, newspapers, online news place…

Jonah is joined by FISM winner Markobi where they talk all about what it takes to win a competition, what it’s like to work with a team, and what it’s like to work alone. Free Videos and Social Media Markobi learned his first magic tricks from those very same free youtube channels that magicians in the industry today can’t stand. From those videos …

Jonah invites you to join in on his mastermind course where you can scale up your magic business. Join The Mastermind Jonah is re-opening up the doors for the Mastermind this month, and he’s looking for five magicians who want to add 3k to 5k per month to their magic business in the next 90 days. All of the tips, all of the magician appetizers that…

Jonah is joined by Jason Suran who shares his advice on how to build lasting relationships to support your magic business. Jason is a mentalist based in New York and has done a ton of work on TV and company gigs and has even performed for four NBA teams. He gives us tips on how to grow a loyal group of clients and shares stories on what has gone gr…

Jonah offers up the world’s shortest but most effective business tip towards booking a client. There is a very famous email in the world of marketing, called Dean Jackson’s 9 Word Email, and Jonah breaks down why it works so well and how you can adapt it to the world of magic. For more help like this be sure to sign up for Jonah’s e-mail at discour…

Laura London is a legend in the magic community. She’s been on Penn & Teller’s Fool Us and The Next Great Magician. She’s had her own show, Cheat, in the Edinburgh Fringe. She’s an Inner Magic Circle member of the Magic Circle and she shares her incredible story and upbringing into the way of magic and how you can build a show too. In this discussi…

Jonah dives into artificial intelligence and how it can potentially help you out with your magic business. In this magician’s appetizer he’ll touch on three ways to use AI in your magic business including how to fix your replies to clients, help drive more traffic to your website, and how maximize the effectiveness of your cold emails. You can chec…

This week Jonah is joined by sideshow and magic legend Todd Robbins. Todd has had an action packed career that has sent him around the the last of the sideshows to creating theatre productions alongside Teller to running what may be the greatest magic show that has ever existed, Speakeasy Magic at the McKittrick Hotel. In this conversation Todd sha…

Jonah connects with Kim Andersen, a comedy magician from Denmark who has created some unforgettable magic products. In this conversation he’ll share with Jonah how he found himself immersed in the Danish magic scene, how he found himself creating content for his own television show, how he goes about challenging himself to keep creating, and why he…

This week Jonah connects with magic inventor and creative genius Tobias Dostal. Tobias is creating stuff that is not unlike anything you have ever seen before with tricks like Silhouette, Ping, and Stay Cool. In this conversation Tobias shares with Jonah his background in visual arts, his love of photography, and how he was able to use his unique b…

Jonah is back with all new episodes of Discourse in Magic! After taking time off after the busy holiday season, Jonah has been busy touring and attending events around the country and beyond. In this episode he’ll catch you up on his lecture and performance tours as well as filling you in on his experiences attending Magifest and Blackpool. Jonah w…

Jonah is joined by Siegfried & Joy. This duo from Germany has been taking the world by storm with their silly and engaging TikTok videos, an hilarious performance on America’s Got Talent, and sold out shows wherever they go. They’ll reveal to Jonah all of their secrets, except where they get their fabulous outfits! More Than A Parody When you first…

Jonah and Ben answer all your questions about how they got their appearance on Penn and Teller’s Fool Us, and how you can get yours too. How Did We Get On? Ben had actually been approached before as his name was passed around as a potential candidate, but back then when he applied they declined. As years went on and Jonah and Ben found themselves l…

This week Jonah wants you to do one thing, which is to watch him and Ben Train perform on Pen & Teller’s Fool Us which airs for the first time on Friday November 4th, 2022! The post Fool Us, Starring Jonah Babins and Ben Train! appeared first on Discourse in Magic.By Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams

Mortenn Christiansen is a Danish magician who recently won first place at FISM 2022 for comedy. He shares with Jonah his story about growing up without any magicians around him to aim higher and farther than even he originally thought he could accomplish. A Kid and a Magic Shop Mortenn was twelve when he discovered his local magic shop, eventually …

Jonah shares with you his secrets on how to get an extra 50 to 250 leads in Q4, the busiest time for a magician. The information in this episode comes directly from a two hour workshop that Jonah hosted. There are three simple things that you can do to earn you extra quality leads and in less then ten minutes you’ll be all caught up and ready to ta…

This week Jonah connects with cardistry legend Franco Pascali. Franco is an amazing magician, thinker, and creator and he’ll share his secrets on how he develops his skills and grows his communities. Seeing Magic Young Magic found Franco when he would spend time with his fathers friends when they were playing card games. Even though none of these f…

Jonah is back with an update on all the places he’s been since the last podcast update and brings with him some tips for you as magicians enter their busiest time of the year. Since the last time you heard from him Jonah has been all around the world, he attended the FISM 2022 World Cup in Quebec, he’s been to Barcelona, Israel, and Chicago. He sha…

Jonah connects with magic consultant Blake Vogt. Together they walk through how to be creative, how to work with a team, and Blake shares some incredible stories from his time as a magic consultant. Dropping School To Work In Magic Blake loves telling the story of how he first came to learn about magic. It was at a Pizza Hut and there was a magicia…

This week Jonah connects with Kevin Li. Kevin is a two-time contestant on Fool Us, and a prolific social media magician who expanded his business into virtual performances. Throughout this conversation he offers up tips on how to build your brand, your identity, and your magic from influences outside of the magical realm. A Walking Marketer Kevin L…

This week Jonah connects with Mark Desouza. Mark might be one of the most well connected magicians around with a deep curiosity of the art of magic and an even deeper collection of magic props. Magic Communities Mark Desouza has a reputation for knowing everyone and having a foot in both classic and modern worlds of magic. He opens up with Jonah ab…

This week Jonah breaks down the three biggest mistakes that magicians make when they’re testing our new material for their shows. If you’re trying to get a new trick better, if you’re performing on open mic nights or putting it in your show, or trying to test material in your stage show, how do you make it better? How do you make it work? And more …

This week Jonah connects with movie writer & director Kate Tsang to talk about her latest movie, Marvelous and the Black Hole. Marvelous and the Black Hole features stars such as Rhea Pearlman and is a story about a teenager who teams up with a magician and navigates her inner demons and her dysfunctional family by learning about sleight of hand ma…

This week Jonah speaks with Benjamin Barnes about the unique Chicago magic scene and what to look for when you want to build your own magic community. Benjamin Barnes is a staple of the Chicago magic community, with direct ties to Eugene Burger, a huge hand in the recurring show Chicago Magic, and now the Entertainment Director of the Chicago Magic…

This week Jonah offers up three tips to consider when making your promo video. Your promo video is the most valuable asset that you have to get yourself booked as a magician. The biggest difference in your magic business as to whether or not people choose to book you or not. If you have been trying to book yourself out as a magician for any amount …

This week Jonah is joined by Jonathan Bayme, CEO of theory11, to talk about his work applying magic minded thinking to his business and the products he creates. Jonathan was five years old when he watched a performance of David Copperfield, and by thirteen he was headlining events to sold out audiences. Soon he’d finish highschool early to begin pr…

Jonah returns with all new interviews and discussions coming your way. Looking Back It’s been almost two years since the pandemic and what a journey it’s been. And we remember that in March or April of 2020 saying that when this whole pandemic thing wraps up, when it ends, when you go back to normal, you’re going to miss the time that you had. And …

This week Jonah is joined by prolific magician and prop maker, Bizzaro. Bizzaro has been a staple in the magic world, both as a performer and as a prop maker. In this episode he and Jonah discuss building a workshop, creativity, and problem solving. Build It Yourself Bizzaro has always been best when left alone to his own devices, from a kid who wo…

This with Jonah connects with Bao Hoang to discuss how he’s grown as an online magician and his success in creating and selling unique collectible card sets. For a long time Bao still performed for corporate gigs and kids shows but ever since the pandemic he’s realized that the way he shares his magic is a lot more scalable as an online video, capa…

This week Jonah offers up his suggestions for the best software you can use to maximize your team’s potential. If you have a growing magic business then you probably have an expanding team. And with that, you have to manage all of the documents and data and opinions and files and feelings of your team members. And to be able to communicate with you…

Ben Train pops in to offer some important tips to help you overcome any fear you may have surrounding performing the magic tricks that you’ve been practicing on. For those of you who don’t know Ben, he is Jonah’s housemate, his business partner, and the better looking half of their duo act (his words). And over the next few months, Ben is going to …