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Lifelong Educators Show

Dotan Tamir & Josh Chernikoff

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COVID and technology has changed what we thought was possible in education, but what does this mean for educators?The Lifelong Educators Show, presented by Clickto was designed to answer this exact question. We will showcase and learn from our community of educators that are successfully adapting their businesses to not just service, but to increase the impact they can make in their students’ lives.At Clickto, we believe that the future of education is community, accountability, and interact ...
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In this conversation, Josh Chernikoff interviews Kathryn Adabonyan, the founder and CEO of Go Pursue, a company that helps high school students explore career options and connect with professionals in those fields. They delve into Kathryn's journey as an entrepreneur, a testament to her resilience in overcoming sales and marketing challenges. Kathr…
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In this conversation, Josh Chernikoff discusses his nine-step process for building lead generation machines that produce high-quality and high-converting leads on repeat. He addresses the common challenge of not knowing how to get leads and emphasizes the importance of founder-led sales. Josh shares his own experience of starting a tutoring busines…
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Don’t miss the Catalyst at Penn GSE Innovation Summit on June 21st at the University of Pennsylvania. It’s a must-attend event for entrepreneurs in the education sector, filled with insights on advancing your business. Register now at https://mailchi.mp/gse.upenn.edu/catalyst-summit-2024 Rose, a successful entrepreneur and educator, shares her expe…
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Don’t miss the Catalyst at Penn GSE Innovation Summit on June 21st at the University of Pennsylvania. It’s a must-attend event for entrepreneurs in the education sector, filled with insights on advancing your business. Register now at https://mailchi.mp/gse.upenn.edu/catalyst-summit-2024 Welcome to today’s episode where we delve into the world of l…
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In this episode, Josh discusses the importance of identifying the main stakeholders in the education space and how to sell to them effectively. He shares case studies of Brent and Katherine, who faced the challenge of determining who to sell to and how they overcame it. Josh emphasizes the need to focus on the benefits and transformation your solut…
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In this episode, Josh Chernikoff interviews David Dworkin, the CEO and founder of Hire Cause. They discuss David's experience in the Ed Sales Elevation Experience program and the impact it had on his business. David shares the challenges he faced before joining the program, including the difficulty of setting up consistent meetings with potential c…
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In this episode, the host discusses how to transform a LinkedIn profile into a sales page that generates more leads. The importance of having a professional and engaging profile picture is emphasized, as it sets the tone for others to perceive you. The headline is highlighted as a hook that captures attention and showcases how you can help your ide…
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Summary In this episode, Josh Chernikoff discusses how to confidently start conversations with potential clients that lead to booking more calls. He addresses the challenge of initiating conversations and offers strategies for building rapport and making connections. Josh emphasizes the importance of offering value and following up with potential c…
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Summary In this episode, Josh Chernikoff discusses the importance of having a Signature Solution to generate more leads and close sales faster. He emphasizes the need for clear communication of value and the challenges entrepreneurs in the education space face in this regard. Josh explains that a Signature Solution is a clear visual roadmap that ou…
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In this episode, Josh Chernikoff discusses the challenge of promoting oneself without feeling salesy or inauthentic. He shares his personal experience with imposter syndrome and how he overcame it. Josh also addresses common fears and challenges faced by entrepreneurs and provides tips to overcome the fear of self-promotion. He emphasizes the impor…
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In this conversation, Josh Chernikoff and Brent Newton discuss the power of LinkedIn for business growth and networking. They highlight the evolution of LinkedIn from a resume platform to a sales funnel and emphasize the importance of improving LinkedIn profiles. The conversation also covers the challenges of consistently posting on LinkedIn and th…
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In this episode, Josh Chernikoff discusses how to effectively use LinkedIn for lead generation in the education industry. He debunks common myths about LinkedIn and provides tips on optimizing your profile to attract the right audience. Josh emphasizes the importance of nurturing connections and leveraging social proof through testimonials. He also…
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In this episode of Breaking the Grade, host Josh Chernikoff is joined by guest Rose Hastreiter to discuss breaking free from traditional goal setting. They explore the difference between goal setting and achieving goals, the importance of designing the experience of success, and the power of the past tense in goal setting. Rose shares actionable ti…
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Sher Downing has been a successful business owner for over 20 years. She’s become the go-to in the ed-tech space and also hosts her own podcast, “Ed-tech Speaks”. But Sher told us that she never discounts her own humble beginnings as an employee of a music store that really prepared her to climb the ladder in her own career. We were lucky to have S…
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A fantastic time spent talking with Erin Dowd and how she found her true calling in life! Erin comes from a family of educators, and she always looked up to her father and grandfather as mentors. They were more than just mentors; they were the key to unlocking her true potential. Erin's father, a master storyteller, weaved enchanting tales that mad…
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For as long as she can remember, Susan Gold has been the “kid whisperer.” She just gets kids and they get that she gets them. A match made in heaven, especially since she founded her school in 2010. But - that didn’t mean that Susan’s peers in school got her. In fact, her middle school years were packed with bad days and bullying. By listening to o…
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A high-powered personality in the fashion industry decides she wants to move into the education space. And she is successful in her first attempt to create a beautiful space for parents to work and children to learn. But, what happens when our education entrepreneur - Keltse Bilbao - decides she wants to take her concept from California to New York…
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Eric Nelson has made a habit out of turning setbacks into silver linings. Having grown up in a family of educators, Eric was taught early on to prioritize how to, “learn like a champion”. This lesson served him well as he faced his own hurdles personally and professionally that led to the development of Fanschool; the platform that promotes trust, …
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Alberto Rossi always dreamed of being an airplane pilot or even an astronaut. A boy can dream all he wants, but this was a tall order for a young man who couldn’t even drive due to visual impairment. But Rossi, the son of parents from Italy and the Canary Islands, never saw a challenge or an opportunity in life that he didn’t want to drink up and d…
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Lisa Friedlander is that family member, friend, colleague, and mentor that we all want in our lives. She is strong, smart, and super driven, and that has been evident throughout her personal and professional life. But, sharing all of these essential qualities with other people has come at a cost at times for Lisa because she has not always put hers…
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Oliver Knott excelled in school from childhood through university. No surprise there because Knott was lucky enough to attend one of the UK’s prestigious grammar schools, which set him on a path to success. But – his brother, who did not attend the same school and struggled as a student, had a very different educational experience growing up. UNTIL…
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Brian Zapf has always been good at math. And the strategic CFO has taken those number skills from his start at a community bank to investment banking, to M+A advising, and his strategic CFO business today. But – it wasn’t until an accounting course at the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University that Zapf fully grasped how financial statemen…
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Growing up in California in the 1970's, Mike Lawrence was surrounded by technology. He was a fan of Jobs, Woz, and Apple before they had fans around the world. His love for tech was just a hobby - at first - and once he got older, he stayed in Cali and became an English teacher. But -- Mr. Lawrence - as the cool kids called him in English class - q…
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Virtual Reality allows learners to experience an immersive environment where they can play, engage, and explore with real-time feedback. In this episode of Breaking The Grade, we will have an exciting and grade-breaking discussion with Malcolm Lee, CEO and Founder of Gabb Global, on games and VR tech in language learning. He will share with us: How…
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With the rise of disinformation and biased media and content, how can we raise a generation that can sift through and process information in a healthy way? Join us with Daniel Stedman. Founder and CEO of Pressto. And let’s dive into The importance of learning how we can break the manipulations of social media and what it means for the future genera…
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Every child should have the opportunity to achieve their full potential regardless of their uniqueness with their own path. But what happens if neurodivergent children's only option to learn is the same as the norm - a thing that is working against them? Join us with Dr. Celest Austin. Founder and CEO of GoManda. And let's address this and dive int…
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In the era of advanced technology and rapid change, what is the role of the leaders in the education space in responding to the challenges it entails? The Breaking the Grade crew, had the opportunity to have a conversation with Dr. Quintin Shepherd to talk leadership as a Superintendent and his new book “The Secret to Transformational Leadership.” …
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College students invest thousands of dollars in their education and the other things that come with it, not to mention the time and energy they put into providing for themselves only to come out making less than $35K a year. In this episode of Breaking The Grade, we will be joined by Nancy Soni, CEO, and Founder of PathMatch in discussing: The real…
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🎥 GoManda is on camera! Often an entrepreneur is inspired by an experience or maybe even a family member. In the case of Celest Austin, MD, PhD Austin, it was both. She founded GoManda after watching her sister’s amazing way of thinking – as an autistic person. The name of the company comes from her family’s time celebrating whenever her sister Ama…
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Our students deserve to know they belong. But equality isn’t always placed as the priority it deserves to be. Alexa Escobedo discovered this as she was teaching elementary, and immediately switched gears to create an impact. She knew she could affect far more than her group of 35. She moved out of the classroom and into larger education organizatio…
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We know social-emotional learning is essential. But we haven’t all figured out how to teach it effectively. Nicole Lipkin, Clinical Psychologist and founder of HeyKiddo, is breaking traditional methods with her unique curriculum. Join us today as she shares: Why social, emotional, and leadership skills are so important for kids in current times. Wh…
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Schools are at the forefront of learning, but they don’t always feel up to par. Kevin Chavous is an education activist, lawyer, author, and podcast host with innovative ideas on how to fix this. Join us to hear how: The education system is breaking, but we as a culture can build it back better. Education isn’t an end-goal, but a lifelong process. V…
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The future of the educator has moved online, as virtual courses allow them to teach anyone at any time from anywhere. But securing, training, and certifying the world’s best teachers has proven to be quite the challenge on the academy side. That’s why we’ve gathered experts and members of 2022’s ASU+GSV Elite 200 to share how to: The new role of th…
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In the first episode of Breaking the Grade, we interview our very own John Gamba, Entrepreneur in Residence & Director of Innovative Programs at the University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education. Join us as we dive in to see the grade-breaking changes and initiatives that John is actively pursuing and what else can listeners expect in the…
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Online learning is accessible to all, but is it truly benefiting diverse education outcomes as we predicted, or is it mainly accessed by privileged communities? How can we use our thoughtfully curated, engaging content to reach all students and close the achievement gap, instead of only benefiting wealthier learners? We’ve gathered four CEOs of ASU…
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Breaking the Grade is a thought-provoking podcast that follows entrepreneurs as they transform learning and advance equity and impact in the global education space. Tune in for stories about breaking norms, introducing new ideas, and shaping our future through every lesson learned. Breaking the Grade hosts Josh Chernikoff and John Gamba have been e…
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Online academies have absolutely exploded in recent years with cohort-based live instruction providing quality, effective education to students in all corners of the globe. That's why we’ve invited the top experts in this field to share best practices that drive growth in their businesses. Specifically, we’ll be hearing from members of this year’s …
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Kristine Dizon grew her virtual school from a sole venture to a ten-teacher academy in less than a year. The Music and Langauge Learning Center is immersive, effective, and fun for students and staff alike. In this live episode of Lifelong Educators, we’ll dive into: How Dizon grew her business so quickly in the online space. How she finds and mana…
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Are you interested in starting —or scaling— your own online coding course? In this episode, we’ ll hear from a tech field-to-classroom expert on his professional experience, his transition into teaching, and the incredibly successful online coding business he grew from the ground up. Yumio Saneyoshi will join us live on the Lifelong Educator Show t…
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Online enrichment has been exploding in the past 2 years, and the arts have been one of its leading verticals. BUT there are unique opportunities and critical challenges that you need to master to find success. To help you out, we’ve invited the top experts in this field to share best practices that drive growth in the field of online art classes. …
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"Online enrichment has been exploding in the past 2 years, and Language has been one of its leading verticals, BUT there are critical challenges, and unique opportunities that this new medium represents, hence we invited the top experts in this field to share best practices that drive growth in the field of online language classes. In this fascinat…
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Are you ready to carry your online chess class to new heights? Or maybe you currently teach in person, and need advice on your transition to the virtual space. Elliot Neff has formed one of the most successful and impactful online chess companies to date. He’ll be joining us live on the Lifelong Educators Show to discuss: Advice on how to be succes…
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Online enrichment has been exploding in the past 2 years, and Chess has been one of its leading verticals, BUT there are critical challenges, and unique opportunities that this new medium represents, hence we invited the top experts in this field to share best practices that drive growth in the field of online chess classes. In this fascinating eve…
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Online enrichment has been exploding in the past 2 years, and coding has been one of its leading verticals, BUT there are critical challenges, and unique opportunities that this new medium represents, hence we invited the top experts in this field to share best practices that drive growth in the field of online coding classes. In this fascinating e…
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Do you want to bring your course creation to a new level — reaching more students, cultivating engagement effectively, and sharing knowledge that can transform lives? Nuseir Yassin of Nas Daily and Nas Academy has been there, done that, and he’s coming to the Lifelong Educators Show to share his lessons learned with you. Nuseir joins us to discuss:…
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Thomas always knew he wanted to be an educator and got the training for it, but could not find the opportunity for many reasons. So he created his own! Thomas Joseph, Territory Sales Hunter and Ed (Tech) Sales Aficionado is here to inspire you with his journey, and help you: - Identify and break barriers to teaching students wanting to learn from y…
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Do you wish students were more engaged with classroom learning? You should take a page out of what Microsoft did with Minecraft! Deirdre Quarnstrom, VP of Educational Experiences at Microsoft, brought the video game Minecraft to mainstream education which now reaches millions of students and educators around the world. Deirdre joins us to talk abou…
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As parents and educators, it often feels as if our educational system is broken, but Kevin has found a few ways to fix it! That's why we're bringing Kevin Chavous, an Attorney, Author, Education Reform Activist, Podcast Host, and President of Stride, Inc., a company with a mission to help students reach their full potential through inspired teachin…
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