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Real talk at the heart of creative entrepreneurship with Kate Tyson and John Gerber. Kate and John, longtime small business advisors, drink whiskey while dishing hard-won wisdom for entrepreneurs and leaders. We also publish "Boss Talks" episodes: interviews with leaders on new possibilities in business and economics and are possibly the only business podcast out there to feature special musical guests.
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Whiskey Friday's is on Summer Break! But we're recording new episodes for the fall and have a tiny sneak peak on what we're working on. Mostly: Money. Learn more about Kate Tyson: Wanderwell Connect on LinkedIn Sign up for Kate’s Newsletter Learn more about John Gerber: Unlawyer Instagram: @un.lawyer Connect on LinkedIn Featuring Music by Billy Duf…
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Ep 17 – What Every Small Business Owner Should Know About Paid Leave
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So you want to offer your team members paid family and medical leave? Yeah, good luck with that. The few government programs that exist to help businesses support paid leave policies often don’t apply to small businesses. So, owners who want to provide paid leave are left to cobble together solutions and policies of their own. Kate discusses the hi…
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Ep 16 – Why You & Your Business Need (Legal) Space
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If your relationship status with your business is “it’s complicated,” then it’s time for some clean-up. You and your business need some space. And that space? John calls it legal hygiene. And if you take the time, you and your business can enjoy a long and fruitful relationship. John shares three real-life examples of legal hygiene gone wrong, from…
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BONUS - Building Solidarity in the Creator Economy
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Today is a bonus episode featuring Kate, Charlie Gilkey, and Tara McMullin discussing the creator economy. It originally aired in the What Works feed—the first part of this conversation is here. "How do I want to live?" Philosopher Rahel Jaeggi says this question is bound up in the concept of alienation. Our disconnection and dissatisfaction keep u…
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BONUS - 'The Creator Economy Is Eating Creative Acts'
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Today is a bonus episode featuring Kate, Charlie Gilkey, and Tara McMullin discussing the creator economy. It originally aired in the What Works feed. Part 2 of this conversation will be available on Thursday! *** It seems the creator economy is booming. Or is it? And what even is the creator economy?? Platforms like Instagram, YouTube, and TechTal…
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Ep 15 – Boss Talks: Engaging Unionization with Access Matters CEO Melissa Weiler Gerber
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If an organization is progressive and cares about its staff, then workers don’t need a union, right? Employee survey says: Nope. Unions are taking off in all sorts of mission-driven non-profits and small businesses. Management can work with the union or against it, stagnate in defensive mode, or ultimately see it as an opportunity for the organizat…
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Ep 14 - Ditch the Bonus - Towards Transparent Profit Distribution
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Should you reward your employees with performance-based bonuses? Kate says… No! The more equitable move is transparent profit distribution. Kate explains why performance-based bonuses make a false connection between hard work and profit, can’t be accurately measured, and lack transparency. Her thesis is that profit distribution ties additional comp…
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Once you give an employee equity, does that mean you’re partners for better…and worse? In this bonus addendum to Episode 13 – Employee Equity: Sharing the Pie – John talks through all the glorious nerdy technical details around ensuring you can buy back shares from employees. Go and listen to the full episode here - Episode 13 - Employee Equity: Sh…
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Ep 13 – Employee Equity - Sharing the Pie
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Employees are critical to business growth and success. So, shouldn’t they get a piece of the pie? Well…maybe. Offering employee equity is a process. You’ve got to consider the whats, whys, whos, and hows to ensure it’s the right move for your business (and your employees!). Kate interviews John about the finer points of two employee equity models–p…
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Money shit is hard, even on a good day. So, what should you do when a client refuses to pay you, even after you have fulfilled your end of the agreement? You’ve done your part, but the client is refusing to pony up? Kate and John use two real-life examples of service-based businesses to explore payment structure, well-drafted contracts, and what yo…
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Ep 11 - Boss Talks: Fixing the Plane While We Fly It with Charlie Gilkey
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“I want us to fix the plane while we fly it.” Charlie Gilkey believes that dominant power structures need reforming – that we can change the way we relate to each other in our teams and at work. Kate and Charlie get into how cultural change is a long-term play and why better team habits are a critical component of the process. Charlie is the CEO of…
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Ep 10 - Boss Talks: Staying with the Trouble with Sarah Ryhanen
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How do we build worlds of interdependence, regeneration, and care? Sarah Ryhanen, founder of Saipua and Worlds End School of Thought, Agriculture, and Craft joins Kate to talk about dreaming, and most importantly, doing the work of building new worlds when the ones we exist in no longer serve us. Learn more about Sarah Ryhanen: Saipua Worlds End Sc…
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Ep 9 - Incentives vs Caring: The Shifting Language of Labor
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Kate digs into the language of employment and teases out a shift she’s seeing that reimagines the employer-employee relationship. Learn more about Kate Tyson: Wanderwell Connect on LinkedIn Sign up for Kate’s Newsletter Learn more about John Gerber: Unlawyer Instagram: @un.lawyer Connect on LinkedInBy Kate Tyson And John Gerber
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Ep 8 - Boss Talks: The State of the Messy-Ass Restaurant Industry with Chef Jennifer Zavala
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The rules of how we interact with restaurants and the service industry at large are changing. But not without significant confusion, pushback, and sometimes outright belligerence. The restaurant industry as we know it is fundamentally broken and inequitable, a fact made all too clear during the pandemic when restaurant and service workers were hail…
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Ep 7 - Breaking Up is Hard to Do: Navigating Business Divorce
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D-I-V-O-R-C-E. In part three of this series on partnerships, Kate and John are talking breakups. John dives into why your partnership needs the business equivalent of a prenup, why your business lawyer can’t take sides, and the sticky math of valuation when it’s time to split up. Resources: Slicing Pie Handbook: Perfectly Fair Equity Splits for Boo…
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Ep 6 - Shared Wonkiness: Navigating Partnership Changes
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Business Partnerships change over time, whether you like it or not. In part two of a series on business partnerships, Kate and John dig into the messy middle of partnerships and how we navigate change. They break down what drives change, what breeds resentment, and why being self-aware enough to see things going wonky is key to maintaining the busi…
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Ep 5 - Boss Talks: Grief as a Portal with Sebene Selassie and Jennye Patterson
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For so many of us, grief is a near constant companion in our lives. And that loss and accompanying grief show up whether we have the space to deal or not. As I've been exploring failure, business closures, and endings during the Summer of Failure series I've been writing these past few months, I knew I wanted to close with a conversation about grie…
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Ep 4 - Creating a Better Business Partnership
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In part one of an (at least!) three part series on business partnerships, Kate reveals her secrets to a better business marriage, which prompts John to rethink his approach to forming partnerships. Learn more about Kate Tyson: Wanderwell Connect on LinkedIn Sign up for Kate’s Newsletter Learn more about John Garber: Unlawyer Instagram: @un.lawyer C…
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Ep 3 - Boss Talks: Shutting It Down with Heather Thomason of Primal Supply Meats / Part 2
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Part 2 of Kate's conversation with Heather Thomason of Primal Supply Meats. You might want to listen to Part 1 of our conversation before you listen to this episode. We left off with Heather finally coming to terms with her need to exit her business. Part 2 is what happened next, including the weird double identity issues involved in orchestrating …
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Ep 2 - Boss Talks: Shutting It Down with Heather Thomason of Primal Supply Meats / Part 1
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Part 1 of Kate's conversation with Heather Thomason, founder of Primal Supply Meats, the Philadelphia based butchery she closed in May of this year after seven years in business. This is Heather's first public conversation since the closure. Heather and Kate talk about the past few years of pandemic turmoil, the toll leading the business took on he…
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Why do business owners decide to close down their businesses? Since Kate is currently deep in the middle of a summer project about failure, she naturally wanted to talk about business closures. In today's episode John and Kate discuss: the number one reason they see business owners closing what happens after you make that decision, and how to ensur…
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Whiskey Fridays is a collaboration between myself and my friend and colleague, John Garber. I, Kate, lead Wanderwell, an advisory and bookkeeping practice that supports thriving small businesses while investigating new ways of being in business. John is the principal of UnLawyer, where he provides legal counsel to small business owners at all stage…
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