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On the Journey

The Coming Home Network: A Network of Catholic Converts

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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Church Unlimited is a vibrant and life-giving church in the North Lakes area of Brisbane. Under the leadership of James and Paula Hensley, Church Unlimited has grown to be a key church of influence in our region. Our prayer is that if you don't already have a church to call HOME, you would come and join us in the great things God is doing with Church Unlimited.
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Join co-hosts Chris and Ari for a discussion of animal training, behavior, human-animal relationships, and all things NEI-TEC (the Natural Encounters Inc Training and Education Center), and featuring guests from the NEI team and around the professional animal care world! Email us at podcast@naturalencounters.com if you have a question or something you'd like us to discuss on the show!
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After wayyyyy too much time of talking about making it happen, Chris and Ari finally sit down to chat with the legendary Ken Ramirez! Ken shares his inspiring and unique journey through the animal training field—from his early passion for guide dogs, to his long career in marine mammal training, all the way up to his current role leading up Karen P…
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Following the description of the war between the flesh and the Spirit, Paul transitions to a list of the acts of the flesh. This list isn’t to be kept legalistically, but to understand what kind of life the flesh produces. It’s important to understand the flesh, because it is one of the major enemies of the Christian. Ken and Mike define the flesh …
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In our continuing quest to collect the entire AZA Professional Development Committee on the show, we're excited to be joined by Jennifer Charette, Zoo Community Impact Manager at Tessere! Jen shares her unique path from birthday party host to zoo industry professional, the importance of committee service and understanding your "resource engine", ho…
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In 2 short verses, Paul succinctly describes the interplay between the flesh and the Spirit. He follows that up by once again describing the either or relationship between living by the Spirit and living under the law. Follow along with Mike and Ken as they discuss the enemies that affect Christians, what it is to live by the Spirit, the battle bet…
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With Ari away having some extended Labor Day Weekend fun with family, Chris is joined by NEI's Samm Griffin! We chat about the path through the animal care field that brought Samm to NEI (take note, aspiring future animal care professionals), the importance of - and the advantages of working for - smaller zoological institutions, and how the suppor…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard conclude their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. Ken, a former Baptist pastor, Kenny, a former Pentecostal pastor, and Matt, who comes from a Wesleyan background, each take a principle from "Dei Verbum," and show how it has enriched and expanded their unde…
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Verse 13 begins the high point of the Galatian letter, which will continue until verse 26. In 13-26, Paul will describe how the Holy Spirit enables us to live free. In this episode, Ken and Mike will only tackle verses 13-15. Focusing on what Paul writes, they discuss grace misunderstood, which produces freedom turned to selfishness, what happens w…
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Uncommon Fruit that transforms the world This message is about the power of being fruitful. ******************** This message and more are also available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@churchunlimitedau ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.churchunlimited.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Ari is busy getting ready to visit our team in Rhode Island, so this week Chris is joined by returning co-host Adam Geltz to welcome back to the show two of our favorite people in the animal care world, Shelby Jecius and Kyle Alexander from Bearizona Wildlife Park! The four of us chat about their recent experience of moving from being supervisors i…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. They continue their discussion of how God's Word should infuse, inform, and inspire God's people, not only through the formal liturgy of the Church, but also through private study and devotion. Matt, Ken, an…
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In this next section, Paul uses visual descriptions to drive his point home to the Galatians. One about running, one about baking, and one about a surgical procedure. From these, Mike and Ken discuss running well, what keeps us on track and gets us off track. What yeast is and the influence it has in our own lives and the life of our Christian comm…
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This message is part of our Taking Ground series for the month of August ******************** This message and more are also available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@churchunlimitedau ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.churchunlimited.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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The TEC Talk Podcast is super excited to invite Rick Hester to the show! Rick joins us to talk about the journey that brought him to his current role as Curator of Behavioral Husbandry at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo, the important ways his understanding of training and behavior were moved ahead by formative experiences with both NEI and Dr Susan Friedman…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. Given everything that the Catholic Church teaches about the importance of Scripture, how should it function in the lives of Christians, both corporately and individually? Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at what Va…
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Galatians 5 starts off with a bang. Paul declares, it is for freedom that Christ has set us free. And for that reason he says stand firm and don’t be burdened with a yoke of slavery. Ken and Mike discuss being free, how that’s possible through Jesus’ death, and how we’re to stand, hold, and resist in our freedom. They also discuss Paul’s negative d…
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This message is part of our Taking Ground series for the month of August ******************** This message and more are also available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@churchunlimitedau ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.churchunlimited.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Chris is back from New Zealand and surprises Ari to share (and get her feedback on) the quotes he included in his recent ABMA presentation, "Communication and Teamwork Through the Eyes of a Trainer." Spoiler alert: she thinks they're pretty great, and has lots of great further information to share! If you have a shout-out you’d like us to share, a …
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. How should Christians understand the New Testament in the light of the entirety of God's revelation to humanity? What does Jesus tell us about what God's plan has been from the beginning? Matt, Ken, and Kenn…
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This message is part of our Taking Ground series for the month of August ******************** This message and more are also available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@churchunlimitedau ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.churchunlimited.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Paul concludes his allegory by telling the Galatians who they are in the story. And based on who they are, how they are to live and act both personally and as churches. Mike and Ken discuss what it means to be children of promise; that we can’t change or reform the flesh; the incompatibility of flesh and spirit; how a person lives free; and how our…
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Despite being separated by 8,061 miles and a 16-hour time difference, Chris and Ari are back behind their microphones to chat about the aftermath of Hurricane Debbie and Chris' adventures consulting at Hamilton Zoo in New Zealand. Sweet as! If you have a shout-out you’d like us to share, a question or a topic you’d like us to discuss, or a suggesti…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. What purpose does the Old Testament serve to Christians, who follow Jesus as the fulfillment of the law? And how does the narrative of salvation history illustrate that the incarnation has been foreshadowed fr…
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Paul continues on with his allegory of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Hagar, and Ishmael. Ken and Mike discuss which people in this passage are pictures of the things that Paul has been writing about in this letter. From understanding the who’s who, they then discuss the physical versus spiritual realities and what the implications and applications are for…
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This message is part of our Taking Ground series for the month of August ******************** This message and more are also available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@churchunlimitedau ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.churchunlimited.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Chris is flying to the future (sort of) as he heads to New Zealand to do some consulting in the land of Hobbits, so Ari hosts this episode without him, but she is not alone! Natural Encounters Senior Trainer, Nathan Hensley, joins her to talk about the many, many things he does with and for NEI. A lover of Science, he found his way into the field a…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. Who has the authority to interpret the Bible? What safeguards exist to make sure that Christians of today believe the same things about Scripture that the early Christians believed? What criteria should Chris…
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In the next verses Mike and Ken discuss, Paul, a spiritual parent, shares his broken heart over the Galatians. He longs for Jesus to be formed in them, which reveals his pastor’s heart for these congregations. Following this concern, he uses more of Abraham’s story as an allegory to illustrate the issues of law and grace. Ken and Mike discuss the t…
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Earlier this month, NEI had the priviledge of hosting the students and staff of Santa Fe College's Zoo Technology Program for an all-day field trip to our home base facility (aka "The Ranch) in Winter Haven, FL, and leave it to us to find a way to turn it into a podcast. This week's episode is the Q&A panel that Chris hosted, featuring Steve Martin…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. How does God reveal his Word to humanity? How did the Holy Spirit and the human authors of Scripture collaborate to transmit the message of salvation? By what means has this revelation been preserved and handed…
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As Paul has done in this letter, he continues to show concern for the Galatians. But he fears that his work with them has been in vain. Ken and Mike discuss Paul’s warning to the Galatians to not return to their old ways; he reminds them of how their relationship began when he was in need; and warns them about how legalists act. A listener wants to…
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With Ari away at the IAATE Midyear Meeting, Chris is joined by fellow ABMA Board Member and animal behavior podcaster, Shane Gorbett, to attempt to answer this question: how do we define a "modern zookeeper"? If you have a shout-out you’d like us to share, a question or a topic you’d like us to discuss, or a suggestion for a guest we should have on…
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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. What does it mean to say that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh? And how does that inform the way that Catholics approach the reading and proclamation of Sacred Scripture? Matt, Ken, and Kenny discuss the sim…
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Mike and Ken venture into chapter 4 of Galatians and they bite off a sizeable chunk of verses, seven in all. Paul has used many illustrations in Galatians and he includes another one here. It’s the picture of an underage child who is no different from a slave. But when the child comes of age, his status changes. Ken and Mike discuss our status pre …
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Many are familiar with the fact that the Catholic Church does not hold to the Reformation doctrine of "sola Scriptura." But what *does* the Catholic Church teach about God's Word? Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new series unpacking "Dei Verbum," the Catholic Church's official document on Divine Revelation from the Second Vatican…
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Well, this one is certainly a blast from the past! On this episode, we are extremely excited to welcome journalist and author, Amy Sutherland! Chris first met Amy 21 years ago (!) when she came to spend time with him and his classmates at Moorpark College's (then-named) Exotic Animal Training and Management Program (aka "EATM") to do research for w…
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You’ve been treated to four volumes of Best of Listener Questions, now it’s time for a new series of best of volumes. These will be from the Did You Know segments of Jesus Changes People. The time in the show when the guys share facts about the Bible, Christian History, and Christian Oddities. The Did You Knows in this volume all come from season o…
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You know what they say: you send Chris and Ari an email, you end up on the podcast. We're super happy to welcome Jeremiah Shon from John Ball Zoo to the show! Jeremiah is a recent NEI workshop attendee who reached out to share some cool training stuff that he and his team have been doing with their birds recently, so we brought him on the show to t…
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Mike and Ken wrap up chapter 3 of Galatians. In this last section, Paul uses the illustration of a child guardian to demonstrate what life was like under the law. He then reminds the Galatians, they are not under the guardian any longer, but are now living as full heirs because of Jesus. Ken and Mike discuss life under the guardian, what changes on…
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Our hosts dig into all forms of media - print, social, and electronic - to discuss the challenge of "cultures of silence" in the zoo field (which, we beg your pardon, involves us repeating a little salty language), and chat about some good advice about how positivity and leadership behaviors can help, courtesy of great recent articles in IAATE's pu…
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In this next section of Galatians, Paul asks why, then, was the law given at all? Up to this point, he’s been proving that what was promised to Abraham is all that is needed. So why have the law then, would be the next logical question someone would ask. Ken and Mike discuss three things that show why the law is not greater. It’s not greater, becau…
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With Chris stuck in traffic between work locations, Ari is joined by NEI's own Brittni Rice on the eve of her first anniversary with the company! Brittni shares her history in the field, the differences between working as a show trainer and a zoo keeper, the experience of being both a learner and a teacher, why she doesn't want to go back to marine…
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