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Inside Job

Nayla Bahri and Eric Johnson

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We’re Nayla Bahri and Eric Johnson, and we love to talk about the intersection of life and work. Why? Most of us will spend more hours of our life working than doing anything else. The relationship we have with work, and the way we make meaning of our time and experience there, serves as a great platform to explore how we show up to the rest of our lives: relationships, family and parenting, our health, our hobbies and interests, and our general attitude towards the human experience. With in ...
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"Life is a series of reinventions," says Alice Inoue, founder and Chief Happiness Officer of Happiness U. In this episode, CoveyClub founder Lesley Jane Seymour sits down with Alice to explore her extraordinary journey of continuous reinvention. From her beginnings in Taiwan and Japan to becoming a television star, an astrologer, a wedding offician…
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"I know that I was not given this gift at the age of 50 to squander," says Dana King. After 25 years in broadcast journalism, she found her true calling as an artist sculpting black bodies in bronze. "I only tell the story of African descendants and their role here in America," she tells CoveyClub founder Lesley Jane Seymour. King shares her incred…
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"Gender is between the ears, not the legs," says Wendy Cole, a Transition Mentor with a focus on self-acceptance and personal empowerment. Knowing she was a woman since childhood, Cole transitioned at age 67 and was fully able to embrace her true identity. Now she helps others navigate their own life’s changes with compassion and mindfulness. “Life…
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"There is throughout this theme of reaching a certain age and feeling like I'm entitled to the ground I'm standing on, at least," says New York Times bestselling author Ann Leary "Sometimes just being overly nice isn't authentic." CoveyClub founder Lesley Jane Seymour sits down with the writer to discuss her latest essay collection, "I've Tried Bei…
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"We should be treated like owners of our own bodies," says ER physician and CEO of Carte Clinics Dr. Gina Siddiqui. “The medical system should give you a map, and you can choose where you want to go. CoveyClub founder Lesley Jane Seymour sits down with Dr. Siddiqui to discuss her mission to transform the patient-doctor relationship. Dr. Siddiqui sh…
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"Anxiety is like a cult leader in the home—it’s controlling and demands attention, but understanding it helps break its power." – Laura Morton. In this compelling episode of the Reinvent Yourself Podcast, host Lesley Jane Seymour sits down with Laura Morton, co-director and producer of the award-winning documentary "Anxious Nation." Morton, a bests…
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“Menopause doesn't have to be a silent struggle,” says award-winning author and health expert Dr. Barbara Dehn. With humor and expertise, Dehn – known as “Nurse Barb” on NBC's California Live – demystifies the symptoms of menopause, from hot flashes and hair loss to shifts in sex drive and sleep patterns. She joins me here for a candid conversation…
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Summer is around the corner and that brings us to an announcement relating to the podcast. Take a listen to this quick episode to find out why we’re taking a break after not missing a week in over four years, what we’ll be doing over the coming months, what we hope you can learn from our break, how you can stay in touch with us, and when you can ex…
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“I always come back to passion,” says Robin Salls, the pro-age powerhouse behind Tangled Silver magazine and the #IAmSilver beauty movement. “Look at what your passion is and see if you can turn it into something else where you can build a revenue to support yourself.” In an industry where glossy pages often tell tales of youth and retouching, her …
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In one of our recent debriefs of how things are going with our coaching practices, we realized at least two sessions in the span of one week focused on the theme of it’s not me, it’s you when it comes to our clients dealing with the leadership teams at their organizations. We’ve all thought someone else was responsible for things going wrong, negat…
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“I spent years in therapy and my relationship with food was never touched,” says Jessica Procini, former ballet dancer and fashion industry professional turned emotional eating coach. “But it really is causing a lot of chaos in peoples’ relationships with food and their health.” Procini, who is the founder of Escape from Emotional Eating, opens up …
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Even though we only just met our guest for the first time a few weeks ago, we’ve quickly discovered we have a lot in common and knew we just had to have him join us on the podcast. Jeff Wetzler has been on a quarter-century quest to transform learning opportunities. Blending a unique set of leadership experiences in the fields of business and educa…
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Have you ever thought to yourself, “This job would be so much better if it weren’t for the people?” When one of Eric’s clients jokingly said this in a recent discussion, they shared a laugh about it. However, Eric later realized it’s not only something he hears often from his clients, but something he’s also said himself in the past. We thought it …
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We’re delighted today to be joined by a guest who is going to help demystify the world of executive search and recruiting. This is an area that we hear from you guys about with questions all the time, and it’s an area that we honestly feel we could use a little more education in as well. Tory Clarke is a Founder and Managing Partner of Bridge Partn…
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Is it possible to change someone’s perspective of you? If so, how do you do it? Nayla’s recently had conversations with several clients about changing other people’s perceptions of us and we’ve realized this comes up a lot in our coaching practices so it’s time we covered it on the show. Nayla even gets vulnerable and shares an example of feedback …
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"She'll hate to hear this, but I'll say it anyway: she's developing into her mother." So says Dr. Shaula Yemini of her daughter Noa Arias. In a Reinvent Yourself first, Lesley Jane Seymour interviews this mother-daughter entrepreneurial duo who founded Bloomers Intimates together in 2020. Formerly a computer science professor, Dr. Yemini was isolat…
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We’re pleased to be joined today by Lesley Jane Seymour who’s going to be talking to us about the concept of reinventing yourself. Lesley has been the Editor-in-Chief of multiple magazines including More, Marie Claire, and Redbook. When her illustrious career in the magazine world came to an end, she was forced to reinvent herself. Lesley has since…
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None of us are immune to feeling angry, but do we express it in a healthy and constructive way that minimizes the negative impact on those we work with? A recent experience with one of Eric’s clients has led to us tackling the topic of anger in the workplace from not just one angle, but two on this week’s episode of the podcast. Not only did this c…
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“If a woman drops a tampon versus drops a pencil, there's a very different reaction,” says psychologist Dr. Alicia Grandey, Professor of Psychology at Penn State University, whose research is reshaping perceptions of the “three Ms” (menstruation, maternity, and menopause) in the workplace. In this episode, Dr. Grandey discusses the challenges women…
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Ever since our conversation last week with Maricella Herrera, we’ve been talking nonstop amongst ourselves and those around us about what can be learned as a result of making big decisions in our lives; more specifically the decision to quit our job. As part of these conversations, we realized our clients frequently express a fantasy about quitting…
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Nayla’s former student and current friend, Maricella Herrera, joins us on the podcast this week to chat about her experience quitting a job and what she’s learned interviewing people on her podcast called, Sh*t I Just Quit My Job. Maricella is also a strategy consultant and advisor for mission-driven companies who has more than fifteen years of exp…
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It’s our nature to want to feel irreplaceable and that can bring up some complicated emotions whenever we hear how our former departments or organizations are holding up after we vacate a role. In fact, a recent experience with one of Eric’s clients where the workplace fell apart after she was promoted to a new role is what inspired him to suggest …
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“I’m not one to take big risks,” says Ellie Steinbrink, a Midwest marketer turned fashion maven, “but for me it was a no-brainer.” When COVID hit, Steinbrink realized that her professional success didn't create personal fulfillment.”What I'm doing in my business is helping women develop their style brand,” she says. “I'm taking that marketing exper…
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We know you’ll find this shocking, but Eric has some strong opinions on this week’s topic, and it might even lead to a rant or two. A recent meeting with the owner of his son’s racing team inspired this episode where we’re diving into what you do when you feel like you’re not being heard. This is something we’ve all dealt with in the workplace… lik…
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"Authentic ​beauty ​and ​confidence ​come ​from ​within ​and ​radiate ​out," says Nick Gavrelis, founder of ieró Beauty, a holistic skincare line devoted to unleashing the sacred spark within. After decades spent as a corporate powerhouse behind some of your favorite prestige beauty brands, including MAC and Estée Lauder, Gavrellis shifted into ent…
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In this week’s episode of the Inside Job podcast, we’re building off an interesting experience Eric had recently with a LinkedIn post where he shared an article about how to get a resume past applicant tracking systems that did not go the way he anticipated. In fact, the response to that post has us both reflecting on what we think it means to be a…
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“When you choose better men,” says author and dating coach Evan Marc Katz, “The whole world opens up the same way that if you ate healthier food versus eating junk food.” With more than 35 million readers on his blog, 2.5 million podcast downloads, and 13,000 women transformed through his Love U course, Katz is the go-to guru for smart, successful …
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The latest Green Day album kicks off our conversation today about expectations. If something fails to meet our expectations, that doesn’t always mean we set them too high, we need to lower them in the future, or we need to overcompensate to make easier for others to meet our expectations. What it might mean instead is that we need to change how we …
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"This whole idea of 50+ and reinvention – it's real. It's important," says author and speaker Jann Freed. "Because we're active, we're healthier, and we really want to continue to contribute." Freed spent 5 years transitioning out of her full-time teaching career of 30 years before shifting into entrepreneurship as a leadership development consulti…
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It’s been a little while since we’ve taken listener questions, but we’ve received a few here lately that were really good, so we wanted to take the time to answer two of them on the show this week. The first question is something that Nayla recently had some personal experience with when she spent about six weeks helping to care for her ailing moth…
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“I see the way sports were covered, and it's a lot of BS, and it's just not genuine or authentic," says Emmy-winning TV host Kelli Moore. "I also saw how toxic it was. I was a young woman in my twenties in a male dominated culture, and I dealt with sexual assault, and I didn't feel good about myself. …So I left that career because of the sexual ass…
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Do you have ghosts of work past? No, we’re not talking about the kind of ghost that comes to you covered in chains and leads you around in your old-timey nightshirt trying to get you to be less of a jerk. Our ghosts are people, events, locations, behaviors, feelings, etc. that we associate with previous jobs or careers that show up for us long afte…
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“What if I launched my company from the hospital?” This was the question Christina Langdon asked herself as she began a year of treatment for AML leukemia. “I am no different than anyone else…I’m an example of what’s possible.” After multiple career transitions leading sales and marketing brands, including a 20-year stint with Martha Stewart Living…
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Do you consider a coworker lazy if they clock-in, do the bare minimum, and clock out? Are you telling yourself a story about their motivations without knowing what they actually are? A recent experience Eric had with a client who came to terms with the fact they were being judgmental of their coworkers, led to the realization that most of us carry …
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"I don't know anybody who had what I had," says Maureen Lippe, founder and CEO of Lippe Taylor. "After losing him, I knew I was a business owner, I was a mom, but that other side of [...] my life was completely gone." What Lippe means is that when her beloved husband, Jerry, passed unexpectedly during the Covid epidemic, her life was shattered. In …
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Both of us had the chance to experience boredom on recent trips, and it sparked the idea for this week’s episode of the podcast because boredom sometimes gets a bad reputation. Boredom also comes up quite often in our work with our clients. They’re usually not sure what it means or what they’re supposed to do about it. It’s precisely those topics w…
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"All the things I loved about being a therapist got overshadowed by the pain," says Sarah Fruehling, "I wish I actually didn't know people were capable of treating another human being like that." Despite a successful career as a mental health therapist that spanned over 20 years, Fruehling found herself burned out from the trauma she was exposed to…
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If you want to be more successful, you just need to work harder… right? Asking what success means or looks like for you is one of the most foundational questions you can ask yourself. It’s something we work on often with our clients and something we frequently redefine for ourselves. Take a listen to this week’s episode to find out our thoughts on …
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TW: Sexual abuse of a child, eating disorders "I became incredibly skilled at disassociating," recalls dancer-turned-author, Antonia "Tunie" Deigan. With a lifelong passion for dance, Deigan used ballet to help herself cope with traumatic experiences at home and in school. She launched herself into a successful dance career despite trying to deal w…
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New year, new… goals? In this first episode of 2024, we reflect on the goals, or questions, we set for ourselves going into 2023. Did we achieve them? Did we under or overestimate the barriers to accomplishing our goals? Are we setting the same goals in 2024 or are we changing things up? We also explore some of the themes we noticed while working w…
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After a 40-year career in advertising, Patti Siegel decided to reinvent into a career that combined her passion and her skills: she wanted to work in the arts. "It's not for the faint of heart," she tells CoveyClub founder Lesley Jane Seymour. "I brazenly applied for three art jobs and they all turned me down." Now the executive director of ArtsATL…
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Here at The Inside Job Podcast, we a love a good year-end review. So, of course, we had to wrap up 2023 with one of our own. In this special episode, we recap the last year of the podcast and what it’s held for us, what it’s taught us, the things we’re still thinking about, our expressions of gratitude, and some things to help you catch up if you’v…
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Allie Egan is a queen of reinvention. She began her career in investing before transitioning into marketing for the beauty industry, became CEO of Cynthia Rowley – all before launching into entrepreneurship and establishing Veracity, a holistic beauty brand rooted in hormone health. "We've heard so many stories from our customers," she tells CoveyC…
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Are you using the end of the year to reflect on what it’s been like and what you want out of 2024? Is it time to channel your inner Jerry Maguire and write a mission statement? As the title of the episode suggests, we’re talking about manifestos, mission statements, and declaration. More specifically, how and whether they have a place in our person…
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"You can have permission to make sexual decisions that serve you and serve your well-being," says Dr. Candice Nicole, host of the Fuck the System podcast that aims to dismantle how we view and talk about sex, pleasure, and reproductive health. After years of reproductive trauma, including fibroids to an ectopic pregnancy, Dr. Nicole felt her sexual…
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Why are we so tired all the time? Why aren’t we getting the rest and care we need to help ourselves feel more energized? In almost every conversation with a client, exhaustion is sitting there with us and part of the conversation. Sure, we can blame the pandemic, the state of the world, etc. But, this show is called The Inside Job, after all, so le…
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“2014 was sort of a personal Apocalypse for me,” says b-untethered founder Anissa Buckley. As a Fortune 500 marketing expert turned entrepreneur, Buckley was experiencing fabulous success when in the span of eight months she experienced divorce and the loss of both her parents. “I went from being a daughter and a wife…to nothing,” she tells CoveyCl…
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Is happiness a destination you strive to reach? Does an overly positive social media post make you want to throat-punch someone? For about a year now, Eric has been wanting to talk about toxic positivity on the show, and it’s an idea we’ve tossed around quite a bit before deciding to finally bring it to you on the podcast this week. We ultimately d…
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“I think over time, I've learned an awful lot about myself, and knowing more about myself has led me to the point of being a [better] participant in the world,” says Rochelle Udell, whose career highlights have included artistic art director of Ms. magazine, art director of Harper’s Bazaar and Vogue, president and creative director of Calvin Klein'…
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Erica Keswin was just named for the Wallstreet Journal Bestseller list… again. She’s a former management consultant turned workplace strategist who helps companies improve their overall company performance through people. Erica’s third book, The Retention Revolution, was just released and she calls it the final piece of the human workplace trilogy.…
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