Best London ICC Podcasts (2024)

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20. Election special...and over & out 49:06

4M ago49:06

49:06

It’s polling day! Sayeeda and David consider what this election means for Muslims and Jews in the UK & discuss who they are voting for. This podcast is produced by Instinct Productions Executive Producers: Jemima Khan Goldsmith and Sarah Linton Series Producer: Rachel Balmer Production Manager: Sangeetha Veluru Research, fact check and social media…

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19. A Muslim & a Jew & a First Muslim First Minister of Scotland Go There 53:24

4M ago53:24

53:24

Humza Yousaf, who resigned as Scotland's First Minister in May, was the first Muslim to lead a Western democracy. Sayeeda and David talk to him about his faith, his identity and growing up in a Jewish neighbourhood. He talks movingly about his in-laws in Gaza, and how knowing that condemning Hamas's actions on October 7th could have had fatal reper…

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18. Sexual violence in conflict, denialism & intimidation of UK MPs 50:19

5M ago50:19

50:19

This Wednesday marked the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence in Conflict, and David and Sayeeda discuss the way that reports of sexual violence on and since 7 October by Hamas and by the Israeli army have been denied and weaponised by governments, the media and tribalism. Closer to home, Sayeeda and David turn to the general e…

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17. A Muslim, A Jew and The Met Commissioner Go There 52:52

5M ago52:52

52:52

Sir Mark Rowley goes there… from pro-Palestine marches to far right protests and bad faith actors, the Metropolitan Police and its Chief have faced enormous challenges over the last 8 months. Sayeeda and David ask him about accusations of ‘two tier policing', of being too ‘woke’ as well as too 'fascist' and what the next government might look at in…

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16. Biden’s peace plan, Faiza Shaheen’s deselection & festival boycotts 44:53

5M ago44:53

44:53

As the election campaign ramps up, Labour have got themselves into hot water over the deselection of candidate Faiza Shaheen. Is Labour guilty of double standards on antisemitism and Islamophobia in the party, and is there a cynical attempt to weaponise racism for factional political purposes? Sayeeda and David discuss Biden’s ceasefire plan and wh…

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15. The Muslim vote, Rafah despair and graffitied cinemas 48:00

5M ago48:00

48:00

A General Election has been called, and David & Sayeeda discuss the Muslim vote and whether Gaza will be top of the agenda for voters, and whether the election campaign will be dominated by divisive rhetoric. David & Sayeeda then reflect on the terrible images that have been coming out of Rafah this week, as well as the screening of a documentary a…

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14. A new Jew and the ICC arrest warrants 49:49

6M ago49:49

49:49

David’s away, so Sayeeda is joined by journalist and new Jew for the week Hugo Rifkind. They discuss Hugo's Scottish Jewishness, Jews as an ethnic minority and those against multiculturalism, as well as the International Criminal Court’s recent application for arrest warrants for the Israeli PM, defence minister and three Hamas leaders. Are war cri…

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13. Listener Questions: Who gets to decide if art or comedy is racist? “Do you condemn Hamas?” and do dodgy connections matter? 35:26

6M ago35:26

35:26

After receiving so many great questions, David and Sayeeda are bringing you another Q&A. Listener Questions (with approximate timecodes) Were British Muslim institutions silent after October 7th? (0:22) Who gets to be the arbiter of whether a person, work or character is perpetuating racist tropes? (13:10) Are Muslims and Jews judged equally for th…

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12. Listener Questions: Could there ever be a Muslim Book of Mormon? Is it correct to refer to the West Bank and Gaza as 'The Occupied Territories'? Is Dawkins' criticism of London's Ramadan lights Islamophobic ... 44:28

6M ago44:28

44:28

This week David and Sayeeda again take on your questions. Listen in as they go there! Q&A with timecodes (approximate) Is it correct to refer to the West Bank and Gaza as 'The Occupied Territories'? (0:26) Is it harder to leave the faith as a Muslim than it is for a Christian or Jew? (14:07) Can there ever be a Muslim equivalent to the Book of Morm…

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11. Israel & Pakistan, Netanyahu & Modi and the not so divine madness of Christian Zionism 50:13

6M ago50:13

50:13

With David in India and Sayeeda heading to Pakistan, they discuss India’s ongoing elections and what they mean for the country's 200 million Muslims. They ask whether Modi and Netanyahu are kindred spirits, and look at Pakistan and Israel’s surprisingly similar history. After that, they tackle Christian Zionism in the US and how it influences Trump…

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10. Why did the Jew cross the road…at Saturday’s Palestine protest? Columbia campus wars and defining Islamophobia 50:10

7M ago50:10

50:10

David and Sayeeda discuss the pro-Palestinian protests in London where the head of the Campaign Against Antisemitism clashed with police, as well as chaos on campus at Columbia University across the pond. Are antisemitism and Islamophobia being ‘weaponised’ to shut down debate about Israel and Islam? And is having an ‘Islamophobia’ definition doing…

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9. The Michaela Muslim Prayer Ban, Iran Attacks / Responds and the Sydney Stabbings 49:31

7M ago49:31

49:31

This week David and Sayeeda tackle Tuesday's High Court judgment on the prayer ban enforced by Britain’s strictest headteacher. Then they go there again on the Middle East and this time on Iran’s retaliatory attack on Israel, the two stabbings in Sydney and the rush to identify a culprit on social media. This podcast is produced by Instinct Product…

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8. Listener Questions: Do Muslims care more about Palestine than Yemen, China, Myanmar? Can we criticise Israel without being called antisemitic? How should Israel protect itself from Hamas? 1:03:35

7M ago1:03:35

1:03:35

This week David and Sayeeda take on your questions for the first time. Listen in as they go there! Q&A with timecodes Are Muslims exposed to more racism in the UK today versus Jews? (0:54) How can Israel protect itself from Hamas without causing a catastrophe in Gaza? (10:55) Could every Jew or Muslim who has the potential for dual citizenship pote…

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7. Eurovision & Queers for Palestine, Israeli “Pink-Washing”, Battles Over BDS & Tackling the Taliban 57:11

7M ago57:11

57:11

This week our hosts tackle the Queers for Palestine led boycott of Eurovision, gay rights in the Middle East and accusations of Israeli “pink-washing”, as well as the government's anti-BDS bill. And then they go there on an even thornier topic - the Taliban's announcement it will reintroduce public stoning for adultery and women's rights in Islam. …

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6. Conspiracy Theories, “Jewish Power” & Sayeeda Under Fire 56:49

7M ago56:49

56:49

David and Sayeeda discuss Jewish conspiracy theories, as well as Muslim ones, explore the contentious notion of “Jewish Power” and Sayeeda responds to her attackers. This podcast is produced by Instinct Productions Producers: Jemima Khan Goldsmith & Simona Rata Executive Producers: Jemima Khan Goldsmith & Sarah Linton Production Manager: Sangeetha …

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5. BBC Bias, Blasphemy and the Right to Offend 51:43

8M ago51:43

51:43

David and Sayeeda tussle with accusations thrown at the beleaguered broadcaster from all sides and then tackle the thorny subjects of freedom of speech and blasphemy. Should anything be off-limits in comedy and culture? This podcast is produced by Instinct Productions Executive Producers: Jemima Khan Goldsmith and Sarah Linton Series Producer: Rach…

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4. Controversy at the Oscars, ‘Jewface’ and why Ramadan Feels Different This Year 45:10

8M ago45:10

45:10

The Academy Awards were mired in controversy last weekend as the conflict in Gaza took centre stage. David and Sayeeda discuss director Jonathan Glazer’s speech and why there’s still a way to go when it comes to Jewish and Muslim representation on screen, from Oppenheimer to Borat. And, as Ramadan begins, Sayeeda explains why it’s taken on a new po…

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3. Gaza, Galloway and Rishi Sunak Striking a Dramatic Pose Outside No 10 47:10

8M ago47:10

47:10

A week on from George Galloway’s victory in Rochdale, Sayeeda Warsi and David Baddiel discuss why Gaza seems to be THE issue for so many British Muslims. And in a week when the Prime Minister made his state of the nation speech about extremism, is the government ready to act on threats against Jews? Or is this just a way to muzzle Muslims? This pod…

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2. Rochdale, “From the River to the Sea” and Race Rows in British Politics 50:55

8M ago50:55

50:55

From the use of the phrase “From the River to the Sea”, the Rochdale by-election and antisemitic comments made by Labour's candidate, to the Tory party’s failure to condemn Islamophobic comments and its reluctance to use that term, David Baddiel and Sayeeda Warsi discuss some of the most radioactive issues in last week’s news, through a Muslim and …

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1. Introducing a Muslim & a Jew Before They...Go There 21:58

8M ago21:58

21:58

Politician Sayeeda Warsi and comedian David Baddiel come together to discuss the topical issues affecting British Muslims and Jews in a way that others might not dare. In this introductory prologue, Baroness Warsi, who wrote the keynote speech “Muslims Don’t Matter”, and David Baddiel, author of “Jews Don’t Count”, discuss their own experiences of …

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Trailer - A Muslim & A Jew Go There 1:23

9M ago1:23

1:23

A Muslim & A Jew Go There is a brand new podcast produced by Instinct Productions, hosted by comedian David Baddiel (author of ‘Jews Don’t Count’) and politician Sayeeda Warsi (‘Muslims Don’t Matter’) who will take on whatever controversy hits the headlines each week, providing context and discussion around current political and cultural events inv…

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In Conclusion... 1:06:21

1+ y ago1:06:21

1:06:21

"An audience is in some sense timeless...an artist must trust his audience, and know that his audience trusts him and he cannot cheat that invisible one or two or multitude of people. Between him...and that audience, there is an unspoken bond, an unspoken promise not to betray..." - James Baldwin Support the show Stay updated on Aldo's current and …

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The Cult of Personality 27:13

1+ y ago27:13

27:13

My thoughts on the word cult. Support the show Stay updated on Aldo's current and future projects by signing up for his Newsletter Other Podcasts by Aldo B. Martin: Finding James Baldwin: The Magpie Years Jammin' on the One The Fatherhood Project YALD. The Podcast So...Tell Me About Your Podcast To get in touch with Aldo, you can find him on Twitte…

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The Truck Driver and the Gas Pump 49:47

1+ y ago49:47

49:47

Today we speak with Dr. Patrick Knapp, PhD who, along with is wife, Heidi Knapp, CLC, runs an organization called Becoming Free where they "assist people to better understand and recover from their unique harmful religious or spiritual experiences and the painful relational dynamics of family estrangement." Their goal is "to support people to proce…

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Personal Agency vs. Spiritual Authority 43:12

1+ y ago43:12

43:12

Today we speak with Alan Allard. Alan was a psychotherapist in private practice for 12 years in the Chicago suburbs. Since 2005 he has been a coach and is an expert in helping abuse and trauma victims take ownership of their life and begin to thrive. He works with clients who have experienced sexual abuse, abusive relationships, adverse childhood e…

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The Letter Revisited 49:34

2y ago49:34

49:34

In February 2003, the Henry Kriete Letter was released. He titled it "Honest to God." The letter's impact was immediate. Aldo has always wondered why the letter had such an impact. "Honest to God" was not the first time that criticisms of the church were penned, published, and distributed. However, those writings did not have the same impact that t…

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The London Working Group Minutes (pt II) 45:57

2y ago45:57

45:57

Long before the Henry Kriete Letter was delivered to the hands of ICOC members around the globe, the brothers and sisters of the London Church of Christ set the table. The regular disciples of that church began to speak up about the injustices that they’ve experienced. It seems that they did so because they wanted to preserve and protect the church…

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The London Working Group Minutes 33:29

2y ago33:29

33:29

Shortly before the release of Henry Kriete's letter in early 2003, the London Church of Christ experienced an upheaval. The members of the London Church of Christ spoke up and against the systemic failures of their congregation. As a result, members of the London Church of Christ formed a "Working Group." The "Working Group" was comprised of paid s…

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The Discipling Dilemma 53:31

2y ago53:31

53:31

The "Discipling Dilemma" by Dr. Flavil Yeakley Jr, is at the crux of season 3. Christina, Chris T, Jenn, and Matthew met with Aldo to discuss their views on the book. The five of them all joined the church in different years. In addition they also represent different parts of the church; London 1988, North Carolina 1990, New York City 1995 and 2000…

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Dr. Jerry Jones 53:44

2y ago53:44

53:44

Dr. Jerry Jones joined the Boston Movement in 1984. Prior to joining the Boston Movement, Dr. Jones was a member of the traditional Church of Christ. As a member of the Boston Movement, he was a bible talk leader, evangelist and was finally appointed as an elder with the Boston Church of Christ. The leadership of the Boston Movement were more than …

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Women's Day 1:10:29

2y ago1:10:29

1:10:29

Today, Elena and Christina take the wheel and speak with Tina. Tina joined the London Church of Christ in 1985. The three of them discuss the church's annual event called "Women's Day." The trio discuss the differences and similarities between the "Women's Day" events in New York City and in London. Tina also discusses her conversion as the creatio…

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Just My Thoughts 32:46

2y ago32:46

32:46

It's been a long week. This is what I think... **Disclaimer: the pending lawsuit is NOT a class action lawsuit and all accusations are alleged.** Support the show Stay updated on Aldo's current and future projects by signing up for his Newsletter Other Podcasts by Aldo B. Martin: Finding James Baldwin: The Magpie Years Jammin' on the One The Father…

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Pending... 53:23

2y ago53:23

53:23

Michele Roland and Senator Joseph Dunn sit down with us today to discuss pending litigation that has been filed against the International Church of Christ, the International Christian Church, HOPE World Wide, MERCY World Wide, and the City of Angels International Christian Church. Both Ms. Roland and Senator Dunn are a part of the case and speak to…

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Accept...Except... 55:58

2y ago55:58

55:58

**Some of the content of this episode deals with suicidal ideations and self injury. If you or anyone you now is need of support in that area, please contact the suicide and crisis lifeline** Today we meet Nicole. Nicole is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) and currently works as a psychotherapist. For a little over a decade, Nicole has had …

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Coast to Coast 58:29

2y ago58:29

58:29

Hugh became a member of the Church of Christ in 1982. He then made a cross country drive, from California to Massachusetts to join the Boston Movement in 1985. Hugh has spent time as a teen worker and eventually joined the full time ministry and became a leader with the movement. Hugh speaks with us about establishing a marriage, raising a family, …

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R.E.V.E.A.L. 47:37

2y ago47:37

47:37

Today we speak with Chris Lee. Chris is the curator of REVEAL.org. Since the 1990's, REVEAL has been a source of information and solace for the community of former members. I use the term "curator" to describe Chris because REVEAL is source where one can find a variety of articles, testimonies, and other documents that pertain to the ICOC experienc…

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Losing My Religion 52:26

2y ago52:26

52:26

Before there was a Reclamation Podcast there was the YouTube channel called “Losing My Religion.” The creator and host of the program joins us today. Her name is Helen and she too is a former member of the ICOC. She speaks to us about the idea and inspiration behind the creation of her YouTube channel. Helen also talks to us about her experience in…

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Much Unsaid 41:16

2y ago41:16

41:16

Today we speak with Chris T. Chris joined the church as a college student in the early 1990s. He remained a member for the better part of that decade. He talks about his upbringing and how it played a factor in his joining the church. Chris talks to us about his personality and how it did not necessarily fit into the culture of the section of the c…

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Like A Berean? 48:37

2y ago48:37

48:37

People leave the ICOC for a variety of reasons. Some leave because their personal believes no longer mesh with the practices of the organization. Not everyone who has left leaves with a furry of negativity. Sometimes, people leave because they simply have outgrown the organization. Today we speak with Alejandra. She was a member of the organization…

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...The More They Remain the Same. 34:45

2y ago34:45

34:45

In our second and final segment of our conversation with Melissa, she tells us more about being a student in the ICCM. She talks to us about the financial sacrifice that was expected of her and the type of effect that it had on her. She talks about feeling trapped by the ICC and their methods and how this feeling of being trapped made her feel that…

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The More Things Change... 30:44

2y ago30:44

30:44

The ICOC is birthed from the COC and the Crossroads Movement. The ICC is birthed from the ICOC. Today we meet Melissa who joined the ICC in 2019 and left recently. Melissa tells the story of a young person who was in search of belonging and community and found it in the ICC. Her story is not different from the various stores that we have heard alre…

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Read the Terms and Conditions 24:19

2y ago24:19

24:19

Ini tells us how the church helped him to get his life together. Despite this, Ini left. He begins to tell us why. Ini mentions the term “spiritual abuse” and explains why this phrase is troublesome to him as it pertains to the ICC. In states that his time with the church was very positive for the most part. However, as he witnessed the manner in w…

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Brother From Another... 25:38

2y ago25:38

25:38

Today we speak with Ini. Ini is a former member of the International Christian Church, or ICC for short. Ini tells us why he wanted to lend his voice to the collective that is the Reclamation Podcast. Ini was a part of the ICC in London, England. He was a member from 2009 up until 2013. Upon joining, he wasn’t aware of the ICC’s previous history or…

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Regardless of Time 24:20

2y ago24:20

24:20

As we recap the previous set of episodes, Elena tells us about her experience as a member of the teen ministry. She explains some of the positive and negative moments of that time in her life. She then asks Aldo on what his experience on doing this podcast has been like for the past 12 months. Support the show Stay updated on Aldo's current and fut…

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"Just A Number" 37:27

2y ago37:27

37:27

Jenn from LA rejoins us. This time, she joins us with her daughter, Amanda. Amanda, at the time of this recording is, 18 years old. Amanda wanted to join us because she wanted to discuss the teen ministry experience. Amanda, was never baptized into the church, but she was a part of teen ministry nonetheless, as she attended all of the meetings, etc…

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"It Wasn't Well Received" 27:50

2y ago27:50

27:50

*Trigger Warning* Some of the content of this episode might be disturbing to some listeners. Listener descretion is advised Carter tells us more about his experience with the church. Carter explains, in graphic detail, some of the things that he was taught. It should be noted that what Carter was taught, was not common practices through out the ICO…

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"A Culture of Works, and Not Grace" 24:04

2y ago24:04

24:04

Today we meet Carter. Carter referes to himself as a kingdom kid. I explains what this term means to him and how it was applied within the ICOC. Carter got baptized as a teenager and became a part of the teen ministry. He reflects on his time with the church and recounts the pressure that he felt. Carter describes himself as introverted and how thi…

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"Legalistic" 26:01

2y ago26:01

26:01

In our second and final segment of our interview with Nick, he begins to tell us about some of the red flags that he's noticed from time to time. Nick describes himself as a totally committed member. Despite his history of commitment, grace was not afforded to him when he decided act in his own best interest. Nick recounts instances where the cultu…

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"It Was Work" 23:23

2y ago23:23

23:23

Today we speak with Nick. Nick joined the organization in 1995 and left around 2020. During his time with the church he was a teen worker and eventually became a member of the full time ministry. Being a teen worker with the ICOC, was an exhaustive task. As a teen worker, one must dedicate the majority of their time and energy to help guide and sup…

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Sue Condon's Diary (pt II) 23:08

2y ago23:08

23:08

Christina and Aldo continue their discussion around Sue Condon's Diary. Christina shares how her views on the church have changed from the beginning of appearing on the podcast, up until now. Although the document was written many years ago, and from the perspective of one person, some of its' elements apply and seem to give validity to the experie…

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