This podcast was created for lawyers however anyone who works with people will benefit from this content. Through inspiring interviews, courageous conversations and thoughtful commentary, Myrna and her guests shine a light on a critical ethical competency lawyers missed in law school: trauma-informed lawyering. This is a do-no-further-harm, relational approach to the practice of law which benefits you, your clients, your colleagues and the legal profession generally. For lawyers and non-lawy ...
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Racial Trauma and the Rush to Innocence: a Conversation with Robert S. Wright
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Exploring Racial Trauma and Transforming Justice with Robert Seymour Wright. Join Myrna McCallum, a Métis Cree lawyer and passionate advocate for trauma-informed lawyering, in this compelling episode of The Trauma-Informed Lawyer podcast. Myrna sits down with Robert Seymour Wright, a queer, African Nova Scotian social worker and sociologist, to dis…
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Once Were Warriors: In Memory of Ty (aka Clovis) Iron
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This episode is emotional, raw, real and it isn't my regular content and deals with heavy subject matter including addiction, death, overdose, suicide, self-harm, sexual abuse, residential schools and my Indigenous lived experience. Listen with care. Seek support at 988 if you are in crisis and/or need support. RIP my brother Ty Iron. May the spiri…
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The Road Less Traveled: A Conversation with Jennifer Yong
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This episode with Jen Yong, Myrna's business partner delves into deep and meaningful topics including career changes, life changes, spiritual partnerships, friendship and healing trauma. Jen Yong is a lawyer and transformational coach. If you would like to connect with her, please email jennifer@myrnamccallum.co AND If you are interested in our upc…
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Service Without Sacrifice with Dimple Dhabalia
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Dimple Dhabalia began her career as a lawyer but after a stint at the Attorney General's office in Denver, she found her calling as an asylum officer. Working for almost two decades at the crossroads of the government and humanitarian sectors, Dimple found her job fulfilling, but it also led to vicarious trauma, compassion fatigue, moral injury, an…
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Healing Sexual Harm Through Restorative Justice: a Conversation with Marlee Liss
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In 2019, Marlee Liss's sexual assault case became the first in North America to get resolved in a restorative justice process instead of ending up in a criminal trial. Today, Marlee Liss is a restorative justice advocate, award-winning speaker, and embodiment coach. Her story is a testament that restorative justice provides a rare opportunity for s…
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[From Indictment: the Criminal Justice System on Trial] Courtroom to Campfire: Harold Johnson's Final Public Lecture for Indigenous Justice
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Today's episode is a special one. I am sharing an episode of Ben Perrin's podcast, Indictment: the Criminal Justice System on Trial which can be found here: https://indictment.simplecast.com/ In the most recent episode of Indictment, Ben shares Harold Johnson's final public talk - and what a gift it is to listen to Harold one more time. For more in…
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Unpacking Restorative Leadership and Collective Healing: A Conversation with Louise Marra
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Louise Marra is a systems healer and founder of Spirited Leadership and Unity House. By coaching companies and NGOs across sectors in New Zealand, Louise aims to create a space for what she terms "walking restorers." These individuals can foster new relationships and promote practices that help heal historical wounds that creep into today’s workpla…
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Exploring Complex Trauma for People of Colour: A Conversation with Natalie Gutierrez
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Natalie Gutierrez, author of The Pain We Carry, Healing from Complex PTSD for People of Color, is a critical POC voice in a wellness space dominated by white trauma experts. Through her personal lens and professional lens as a Puerto Rican complex trauma therapist, Natalie explains how historical and cultural trauma is experienced by Black people, …
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Putting the Criminal Justice System on Trial: A Conversation with Benjamin Perrin
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The justice system in Canada is broken. It traumatizes people who go through it and leaves them worse off. But how can we change a system that refuses to transform itself? Today, I talk with Benjamin Perrin, a law professor at the University of British Columbia Allard School of Law. We talk about how this revolutionary author is shaking up the stat…
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Kisâkihitin nitanis: Truth & Reconciliation Day 2023
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Kisâkihitin, nitanis means "I love you, my daughter" however many of my people also accept the interpretation, "I love you, my girl". This is a personal story about my mom and I. Her name was Judy Marilyn McCallum. This story is my contribution to National Truth and Reconciliation Day, 2023. One day - maybe - this story will be published among othe…
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Safety Denied: The Lives of Indigenous Women in Canada
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Ret. Police Officer Dan Jones and I discuss the disturbing trend of dehumanizing Indigenous women in Canada. The most recent case in point: the refusal of the Manitoba premiere to search for the remains of Marcedes Myran and Morgan Harris. This episode may be triggering for some as we discuss murder, violence, sexual abuse, policing, homelessness, …
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What does it mean to be visible in a job where you need to remain impartial? Today on the show, I speak with Michael Sonberg, a retired NYC judge who was one of the founding members of the International Association of LGBTQ+ Judges. We talk about Michael’s experiences as an openly gay judge and how the Association is helping to build community for …
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What Does Truth & Reconciliation Mean To You?
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This truth and reconciliation episode with my daughter, Alicia, and Dr. Judy Jaunzems-Fernuk, is inspired by a recent event which transpired at a local Women of Distinction awards ceremony in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.By Alicia Hrbachek, Dr. Judy Jaunzems-Fernuk
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LoveBack: Healing Indigenous Trauma with Vina Brown
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Myrna's conversation with Vina Brown of Copper Canoe Woman Creations will uplift and inspire you. Vina Brown is a force, a healer, a helper, an artist and a successful Indigenous business owner. This conversation explores healing trauma for Indigenous people including the long-silenced/secret many carry: childhood sexual abuse (trigger warning) and…
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Myrna discusses why psychological safety is an imperative in all our relationships and invites listeners to prioritize the same. She also shares a recent experience where no safety was present or promised, as well as, an entirely different experience with a group of Indigenous people who knew exactly how to hold a safe space for her and each other.…
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Retreat, Regulate and Repair with Myrna and Dr. Dhall
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Season 3 is here thanks to a generous gift from the BC Law Foundation! Thank you BC Law Foundation. Dr. Amar Dhall is back for round 2 to talk about introception, bio-hacking the nervous system, the importance of trauma-informed practice, emotional intelligence and to share details on our upcoming retreat in Whistler BC from April 11-13, 2023. Join…
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Myrna recaps 2022 and highlights holiday depression, suicidal ideation, grief, gratitude, Gabor Mate and the healing we need in the legal profession. Caution: Myrna also drops a couple F bombs.By Myrna McCallum
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How We Teach is How They Will Practice: a Conversation with Natalie Netzel
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Natalie Netzel of Mitchell Hamline Law School explains why trauma-informed lawyering is the way forward for law schools, legal educators and future lawyers.By Myrna McCallum
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Boundaries: a TLABC Talk Given at Whistler BC
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Bonus episode. Myrna gave a talk to the women of the Trial Lawyers Association of BC in Whistler, BC on October 22, 2022. She discussed boundaries, self-regulation, the consequences of never saying no and feeling like a smeagol in a room full of frodos. Enjoy!By Myrna McCallum
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Small Doses at High Frequency: A Conversation with Justice Patrice Band
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Ontario Court of Justice Patrice Band discusses trauma in the courtroom and his decision in R. v. Marratt which is the first of its kind to comment on vicarious trauma in the courtroom in the context of CP cases. This episode is Justice Band's call for everyone in the legal profession to learn more about trauma, its impacts on all of us and to expl…
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This is an emotional episode which discusses Indian Residential Schools, child rape, the memories that haunt us and the hard stories we have to tell. It also focuses on healing and empathy and the choices we must make in order to heal. This episode also offers listeners ideas on how they can connect to Canada's Day for Truth and Reconciliation. Sup…
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This episode discusses the recent murders which occurred on James Smith Cree Nation and the town of Weldon in Saskatchewan. The focus of this conversation with Dan Jones is primarily on the subject of racism and stereotyping Indigenous communities as we have sometimes seen in the justice system, media reports and Corrections Canada as well as the N…
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From Retribution to Restoration: A Conversation about Restorative Justice with Vanessa Slater
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"The retributive focus of the colonial legal system results in much trauma, particularly with respect to criminal justice. The enlightenment that comes with becoming trauma-informed can assist lawyers, decision makers and others involved in addressing conflict to overcome deep-rooted systemic hurdles. Viewing conflict through a relational lens whic…
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Emotional Intelligence & the Art of Living: a Conversation with Dr. Amar Dhall
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Dr. Amar Dhall shares his wisdom, insights and data on emotional intelligence and the art of living. The conversation is critical for those in occupations which value IQ over EQ.By Myrna McCallum
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Myrna and a few of her friends and colleagues are delivering a course on trauma-informed justice which will be delivered via Zoom Events from July 20-22. This course is for everyone, not just lawyers. This course is open for registration. Register today at www.myrnamccallum.coBy Myrna McCallum
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Dan and Nicole: A Story of Hope and Healing in the Criminal Justice System and Beyond
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Dan Jones and Nicole Whiskeyjack share their story of hope and healing in the criminal justice system. Nicole was sent to prison for kidnapping and Dan was the officer who arrested her. Many years later, Dan has become Nicole's father and the two of them educate law makers, law students, police officers and lawyers on the importance of possibility,…
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Closing Keynote for the Law Society of Ontario's 16th Family Law Summit
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This episode is a reproduction of Myrna's closing Keynote for the 16th Annual Family Law Summit sponsored by the Law Society of Ontario and their Continuing Professional Development Department, originally delivered via Zoom on March 29, 2022.By Myrna McCallum
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The Duty to Do Better: The Law Professor Version
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This episode reflects on an earlier episode called, The Duty to Do Better: The Law Student Version. Law professors and instructors offer their perspectives on teaching in a trauma-informed way, lawyer and law student mental health, and modern legal education in Canada and the USA. This conversation includes Claudia Pena (UCLA), Anna Lund (UofA), Sa…
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To Dehumanize is to Traumatize: My Conversation with Fritzi Horstman of the Compassion Prison Project
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Fritzi Horstman of the Compassion Prison Project discusses prisoners, policing, trauma, ACES, intergenerational trauma, the justice system, racism, and how our humanity can get lost in our occupations. This episode references acts of violence.By Fritzi Horstman
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The Duty to Decolonize the (Criminal) Justice System: Advice from Chantel Sparklingeyes
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Chantel Sparklingeyes offers criminal court actors advice on how to decolonize the unjust legal system known for its dehumanizing practices when working with Indigenous people as victims, survivors, offenders and witnesses. CW: This talk covers subjects of sexual abuse, IPV and intergenerational trauma.…
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Lawyers as Humble Healers: A Solo Episode
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This solo episode explores concepts of healing, humility, humanity and collective trauma put forward by Thomas Hubl, Sherri Mitchell, CJ Robert Bauman, US Supreme Court Justice Warren Burger and Nelson Mandela.By Myrna McCallum
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A Court of Refuge: Judge Ginger Lerner-Wren of America's First Mental Health Court
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Judge Ginger Lerner-Wren describes her pathway to creating the first Mental Health Court in America and offers compelling insight into how education, understanding, compassion and dignity can transform lives for lawyers, judges and defendants who appear in her courtroom. This episode discusses mental illness, mental health, decriminalization and ju…
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Honouring Resilience: A Conversation with Supt. Scott Jones of the Edmonton Police Service
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This episode includes a discussion about mental health, wellness, vicarious trauma, mindfulness, yoga and collective care practices among police officers within the Edmonton Police Service.By Scott Jones
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Ahkameyimok (Don't Give Up): One Survival Story - A Truth & Reconciliation Day Bonus Episode
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CW: This episode mentions suicide, sexual abuse of children and other acts of violence.By Myrna McCallum
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Life Interrupted: Maria Mitousis on Survival, Resilience & Mental Health Among Lawyers
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CW: This episode discusses violence and victimization.By Maria Mitousis
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September 30th is Truth and Reconciliation Day in Canada, will you be a witness?By Myrna McCallum
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Indigenous Women and Girls Continue to Call for Justice: A Conversation with Chief Commissioner Marion Buller
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The episode discusses Canada's genocide against Indigenous people, sexual assault cases and culture as healing tool for Indigenous people.By Marion Buller
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The Duty to Do Better: The Law Student Version
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This episode discusses racism, sterotyping and the harm legal educators and legal institutions can sometimes cause racialized, Black and Indigenous law students - as well as those experiencing mental health challenges.By Will O'Hanley, Dustin Fox, Brittany Scott, Jessica Mayhew, Marjorie Florestal, Sofia Sherrin, Romi Laskin, Nicole Freeman, Alexia Manchon, Lauren Mar, Saul Brown, Vyas Saran
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Myrna invites listeners/lawyers to reflect on what they offer and what they don't when engaging with clients, the courts and each other.By Myrna McCallum
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Trauma and Transformation In the Judiciary: A Conversation with Judge Kael McKenzie
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This episode covers topics including transgender issues, vicarious trauma, trauma education for judges, resilience strategies and positive transformation in the judiciary and legal profession.By Judge Kael McKenzie
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Residential Schools, Reconciliation & The Indigenous Voice: A Conversation with Elder Garnet Angeconeb
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This episode discusses generally the abuses Indigenous children experienced at residential schools, trauma, healing and reconciliation from the Anishinabe perspective.By Garnet Angeconeb
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Trauma-Informed Law: A Primer for Lawyers in Practice
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CW: our discussion briefly mentions suicide and murderBy Helgi Maki, Marjorie Florestal, J. Kim Wright
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Practicing Smart Justice in Scotland: My Conversation with Iain Smith
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In this episode, Iain Smith shares how becoming trauma aware has changed his approach to practice and the way in which he relates to his clients. He also explains why justice systems everywhere need trauma informed education to effectively reduce crime and criminalization. CW: Some discussion of child abuse is had with no details provided. The focu…
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Evolving Police Services Through Trauma Informed Practice: A Conversation with Inspector Dan Jones
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This episode touches on sensitive subject matter including sexual assault, suicide, PTSD, mental health and murder.By Myrna McCallum
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Courageous Conversations & The Stories We Tell Ourselves
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It is time to courageously reflect on how you show up, how you impact others, how others impact you and why we all need to make space for psychological safety and boundaries in our workplaces.By Myrna McCallum
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Re-envisioning the Lawyer's Role: A Conversation with UCLA Law's Claudia Pena and Alicia Virani
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This episode discusses vulnerability, vicarious trauma, restorative justice, harm, healing, debriefing, personal trauma and the missing link between current legal education and the practice of law.By Claudia Pena, Alicia Virani
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One is the Loneliest Number: Justice Harry LaForme's Advice for Indigenous Judges and Those Who Appoint Them
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This episode discusses racism, colonization and intentional Indigenous exclusion from the Canadian judiciary.By Justice Harry LaForme
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Practising Cultural Humility in Human Rights Advocacy: A Debrief Session with Amber Prince
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This episode explores what advocacy looks like from the perspective of lawyers who understand and practice cultural humility from a trauma-informed lensBy Amber Prince, Myrna McCallum
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Making Space for Trauma and Diversity in Family Law: A Conversation with Zara Suleman
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In this episode, we discuss relational client engagement, racism, trauma, and the value of bringing a racially diverse lived experience to the counsel table and the courtroom.By Myrna McCallum, Zara Suleman
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Aligning With Your Values: A Conversation with Doron Gold
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This episode addresses vicarious trauma in the legal profession and the personal traumas that can sometimes interfere with our ability to connect with each other and live in alignment with our core values.By Myrna McCallum, Doron Gold
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