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Deep conversations with interesting people. Santiago Ramones gets to know people on a deeper level: Why they do what they do and why they believe what they believe. Bit Depth lies at the intersection of creativity and philosophy, striving to establish a culture of nuance, empathy, and growth. A musician himself, he speaks with other musicians, creatives, outliers, and any sort of interesting person interested in deep conversation. Still going strong after seven years and hundreds of episodes ...
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The Lunar Laugh was a power pop band based in Oklahoma City. Their final album, In The Black, was released on November 3rd, 2023. The album features Jared Lekites (guitar, vocals), Connor Anderson (guitar, vocals), Campbell Young (guitar, vocals), Triston Lightner (bass, vocals), and Levi Sherman (drums, vocals). On this podcast, we heard from Jare…
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No Justice, No Peace is a one-act opera composed by Chris Prather and co-written by Kenneth Ray Woods and Megan Prather that presents the real-life effects of police brutality on families and communities, specifically following one fictional family. We talked about how the opera began as a 10-minute opera, how it grew into a full one-act opera, the…
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Ryan Smith and Nich Allen met doing compost-adjacent things. When Nich heard Ryan play his music, he knew he wanted to play music with him, somehow. They’ve been playing together for some time. They both frequent the Red Dirt Poetry Open Mic, at which I was playing, too. I actually know Ryan through mutual friends, and I went to the same high schoo…
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Benjamin Rosfeld is back and we mostly talk about artificial intelligence, but we also end up talking about music. Some things we touch on include ChatGPT, personhood and life, the nature of the algorithms we’re dealing with, free will, ethics surrounding artificial intelligence, video games, music theory and music education, signal to noise ratio …
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Benjamin Rosfeld is a composer, performer, and listener. Their primary instruments are piano and cello, but they are also an avid electronic musician and has a number of synthesizers, along with a modular synth system they’ve built. You can see them playing around Oklahoma City for various functions such as church services, weddings, etc. but they’…
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Rowan Weathers and I discuss love: loving intentionally, passionately, actively, with friends and romantically. We also talked about the dating scene of today, participating in communities, friends, the gray areas of romance and friendship, therapy and what can come from it, and our own queer experiences, including pronouns, nonbinary, labeling (or…
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Rowan Weathers is a self-proclaimed “Jackass of All Trades”. They draw, do improv, comedy, write poetry and scripts, music- a lot of stuff! Because of this, we don’t just get into the things themselves, but we get into the communities surrounding those things. We also talked about spirituality and religion, morality, and their time doing disability…
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Caleb Collins returns and we talked about comedy in media, metamodernism, how the medium of media affects the message, nuance, and the Taking Back Sunday/Brand New beef in the 2000s. You can follow Caleb Collins on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/fosterbread The song playing at the end of the podcast is “Ain’t Nobody” by The Nghiems: https://…
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Caleb Collins is a comedian. He hosts an open mic night at Fair-Weather Friend Brewery on Mondays. We talked about comedy, how he got into it, what it’s like in Oklahoma City, and the usual Bit Depth philosophical mumbo-jumbo. Get to know Caleb Collins! You can follow him on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/fosterbread The song playing at the …
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Stefani Heller is a producer, manager, and audio engineer, among other things. She started Heller Music Group, started Women In The Studio, and this is her third time on Bit Depth. We talked about what she’s done since the last time she was on, like working at Castle Row, managing artists, going to law school, and more. There’s some great music bus…
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Uh, oh. We’re getting into the weeds here. exmaxhina and I compare and discuss music production techniques in Ableton Live. We also talked about hearing loss, making albums, fears, goals, and more! You can find exmaxhina and his things here: https://distantether.com/ The track by him playing at the end is “princess parking” featuring Mitzie: https:…
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“Dark lofi dreams. Fragments of a memory. Producer from Oklahoma City with influences from artists like Bonobo, Emancipator, and trxxshed. From eerie soundscapes to vibing melodies, exmaxhina becomes a prime flavor in a new space. Pioneering a unique sub-culture of low fidelity music, exmaxhina creates “dark lofi glitch”, a fresh take on an already…
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Hello, 2023! Bit Depth is not dead and I’m excited to kick it off with the one and only Jabee! “Jabee is a rapper from Oklahoma City whose music, according to Chuck D. from Public Enemy, ‘has the potential to change the world.’” Now Santiago’s words: He also helped bring Eastside Pizza House to his community, a local pizza place on the East side of…
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Chase Hampton, also known by his artist name, Generation Lossless, is a composer, producer, and musician from Enid, Oklahoma. He has been on the podcast before, a long time ago, but a seemingly common theme in this podcast is “getting people on the podcast that have not yet emerged from the Chrysalis.” With his second album, Advertising Films, Chas…
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Jordan Vargas of Burl is back and we talked about cultural expectations, dealing with prejudiced and racist people, musical opinions, the nature of consciousness, and just taking it easy and not making a big deal out of things that aren’t worth your time or energy. Granted, we’re speaking from a place of privilege, being two cis dudes, but still, i…
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Jordan Vargas is a musician, songwriter, producer, and Burlian, as in he fronts the band Burl. He also makes and enjoys beer quite a lot. We talked about music, guitar, the music industry and business, spirituality, morality, and beer. Get to know Jordan Vargas of Burl! You can find Burl things on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/buurrl The Bu…
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Jazmin Bryan is a podcast producer at Possibilities, Inc. She’s also a musician at heart, and she aims to bring communities together through education, advocacy, and a reunion of spiritual/healing practices through the arts. This time, Jaz asked most of the questions, so I ended up talking more. We talked about creativity, why we’re not enjoying th…
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Jazmin Bryan is a podcast producer at Possibilities, Inc. She’s also a musician at heart, and she aims to bring communities together through education, advocacy, and a reunion of spiritual/healing practices through the arts. We talked about music, podcasting, DJing, community, morality, religion, and more. Get to know Jaz! The music playing at the …
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Warren Realrider, TickSuck, is back and we talked about noise - getting into it, the culture surrounding it, the performance of it, and other stories Warren has about it. I surprised myself with how much I could talk about noise. Enjoy this fun conversation! You can find links to Warren’s stuff here: https://linktr.ee/wrealrider.ticksuck.sound The …
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Warren Realrider, also known as TickSuck, is a Pawnee/Crow noise artist. I had the pleasure of playing the same night as TickSuck at The Sanctuary and got to experience Warren's cool sounds in person. We talked about visual art, his upbringing being surrounded by art, sound art, Pawnee culture, spirituality, morality, and more! Get to know TickSuck…
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Chloe-Beth is back and we talked about… chairs? And systems, patriarchy, how religion contributes to patriarchy, The Handmaid’s Tale, Roe v. Wade being overturned and how she feels about it, psychology, and more! You can find her and her things on her website: https://www.chloebethmusic.com/ Her song playing at the end is “Good Will”, which you can…
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Chloe-Beth is a singer-songwriter in Oklahoma City who “possesses some kind of innocent wisdom”, which are the words of the person that wrote the bio on her website, and I agree. We talked about music, growing up in church, going to school at ACM@UCO, singing, writing songs, spirituality, religion, Yoga and meditation, and gluten-free science. Get …
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Nicole Poole, executive director of SPARK! Creative Lab, is back and we talked about art as a transformative practice, what music and art is, my background in music education, improvisation, creation, living as an artist, and more! You can find out more about SPARK! Creative Lab here: https://sparklahoma.org/ Bit Depth: https://santiagoramones.com/…
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Nicole Poole is a visual and performing artist, live composer, producer, speaker and educator working across the fields of advocacy, arts and public engagement. She is the founder and Executive Director of SPARK! Creative Lab, a member of Oklahoma Contemporary Art Center’s Performance Committee. We talked about her journey through art, SPARK!, and …
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I’ll be honest - I haven’t been prioritizing Bit Depth in the way that I’d like. There wasn’t an episode last week. Sometimes scheduling issues happen. Sometimes I’m being lazy. By putting this out into the ether, I’m holding myself accountable to prioritize this thing. This is my fault, and I’m holding myself to it. So, while I schedule people to …
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Rat F!nk is back! Since it’s two music producers in a studio, we talked about music production quite a bit, but we also talked about burnout, musical inspirations, audio techniques, how our culture puts too much pressure on romance, sex work, Kanye West, and more! You can find Rat F!nk on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/ratfinkx The song by R…
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Rat F!nk is an Oklahoma City-based artist and producer. He makes what's described as "endearingly simple romantic slacker-pop songs". We talked about music, genre, spirituality, religion, morality, and more. Let's get to know Rat F!nk! You can find Rat F!nk and his things on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/ratfinkx The track by Rat F!nk playi…
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K.O. is back and we talk about music, the music business, legacy, talent and skill, virality, and a little bit on conspiracy theories. It was a really fun episode and K.O. keeps it real. Enjoy! You can follow K.O. on her Instagram here: https://instagram.com/sheisko The song playing at the end is “Summertime Fine” by K.O.: https://open.spotify.com/…
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K.O. is a rapper and singer originally from Enid, OK now based in Oklahoma City. The “Illest Bitch Alive” has dropped 5 albums and done countless features throughout the rap scene. We talked about music, where she came from, and of course, spirituality and religion. Get to know K.O.! You can follow K.O. on her Instagram here: https://instagram.com/…
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Brandon Ross is back and we talked about feeling hopeless about the state of the world, politics, comparing Evangelical Protestant Christianity to Roman Catholicism, and what we can possibly do about the state of the world. I say many things that can be controversially taken out of context in this episode, and it’s up to you to make sure that you p…
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Brandon Ross is the front person of Grandpa Vern, a local punk band. We talked about Grandpa Vern, the name of it, how they got started in music, spirituality, Brandon’s journey out of the church, morality, politics, and more! Get to know Brandon! You can find Brandon’s band, Grandpa Vern here: https://www.instagram.com/grand_pa_vern/ The song play…
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Benji Skaloot of SHIFT is back and we talk about Timelines - the SHIFT album, music and music education, whether or not it’s worth it to go to music school in today’s day and age (in THIS economy?!), talent and skill, and some of Benji’s favorite bassists. Enjoy! You can find Ben on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/b.skaloot https://instagram.…
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Ben Askren, also known as Benji Skaloot, is a composer and bassist. He plays in the band SHIFT, which just had an album come out: Timelines. We talked about music, SHIFT, the album, spirituality and religion, morality, and more! Get to know Benji Skaloot! You can find Ben’s Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/b.skaloot/ You can find SHIFT’s I…
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Don Data returns once again and we discuss how white people are portrayed the villains in today’s media, race and history, our inability to impact political and economic circumstances, existential risk and how technology could destroy us, interplanetary travel, and even more! You can find Don Data on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/gas_lit_ok…
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Donald James, Don Data, Don Eisenberg, is a drummer, radio host, and a general speaker of hard truths on his social media. He plays drums in Lust Online and with Tim Buchanan. He’s the host of No One Man on The Spy, 91.7FM, a show that features the music of hip hop culture. You should definitely tune in (the literal meaning of tune in, in this cont…
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Psych The Wordsmith asked about conspiracy theories, so we dive into what makes most conspiracy theories not make sense like 9-11 Truth or Satanic Panic, how we create our own hysterias like with the mark of the beast, treating spiritual things as spiritual rather than literal, and then we talk about shows we’ve been watching. You can find Psych Th…
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Clint Blackwell Jr., better known as Psych The Wordsmith, is an Oklahoma-based rapper, poet, performer, actor, and much more! We talked about music, theater, being a black man in a white theater world, spirituality and religion, the future, conspiracy theories, and more! Get to know Psych The Wordsmith! You can find Psych The Wordsmith on Instagram…
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In this rather unique episode, I got to sit down with Aaron Newberry and Michael Trepagnier at Cardinal Song - Michael’s amazing studio in OKC’s backyard. We recorded this just after recording an episode of their podcast, 15 Minutes Of…, where we discussed a topic for… fifteen minutes. That’s their podcast and it’s great and you should listen to it…
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David Hanon is back and we talked about spiritual materialism, power structures, free will, morality, and more! Yes, it seems like I’m always talking about free will, but it’s always a conversation worth having. Even after we stopped recording, we kept on talking about music and spirituality and more, but that’s just for us. Enjoy! You can find him…
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David Hanon is a multi-instrumentalist, audio engineer, educator, and musician in general. He plays with Gonzo LeBronzo and Neon Cathedral. We talked about his musical journey, career, his spiritual journey, morality, and more! Dave is a great guy and I’m really glad to have had him on, since we had been messaging back and forth and the medium of t…
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300 is an arbitrary milestone, but it is a milestone that is valued nonetheless. This episode is unlike any other - I am interviewed by Evan Jarvicks, Chief Executive Weirdo of makeoklahomaweirder.com and he asks his own questions, separate from the usual deep questions on Bit Depth. Once Evan was out of questions, I opened the floor to questions f…
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Jon McMillan is back and we talked about takes: not everyone has to have a vocal opinion about everything! We also talked about sex, honesty, relationships, puns, and more! You can find him on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/jokesbyjon The track at the end is “Bank Job” by Teflo Dollar: https://open.spotify.com/track/5fUbPK5bNGLvCMJCekCKQh?si…
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Jessica “Justice Cow” Kion is back and we go all over the place talking about family, comedy, YouTube, social media, metamodernism, decentralized agriculture, and how we must worship the almighty ALGORITHM or be banished. Jessica is a Boston-based songwriter, singer, artist, animator, YouTuber, and multi-instrumentalist. I am a big fan of her music…
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Jessica Kion, also known as Justice Cow, is a Boston-based songwriter, singer, artist, animator, YouTuber, and multi-instrumentalist. I am a big fan of her music. She plays bass in Bent Knee and has collaborated with many other artists like Ben Levin (her husband), Adam Neely, Trust Fund Ozu, Cory Wong, Aimee Nolte, Sam Greenfield, Nick Krueger, Ky…
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Thomas Who? is back again and he asks me a lot of stuff! We talked about metamodernism and discussed how complex systems have emergent properties, how that applies to racism, building systems towards an ideal, and then we got into why I don’t smoke weed and why he does, drug regulations, free will, and more! It’s quite the trip, and we totally coul…
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Rodrick Thomas, AKA Thomas Who?, is an Oklahoma based rapper who raps better than you. We discuss how he goes from gifted kid, to selling drugs, to how rap became his therapy, to loving father and husband, and to releasing one track a week for an entire year. Like always, we discussed spirituality, religion, morality, and more. Get to know Thomas W…
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According to him, “Jon McMillan is a United States Congressman who does not accept letters. He often launders drug money through the entertainment industry with endeavors such as stand up comedy, record producing and onlyfans. A huge fan of Star Trek mcmillan plans to move to outer space with the rest of the worlds billionaires, leaving lower incom…
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Xantheartist is back and we talk about philosophy, making music, how we analyze musical creation, convergent and divergent thinking, this new thing called Metamodernism and how it compares to traditionalism, modernism, and post-modernism. Among other things! You can find Xantheartist on Instagram: https://instagram.com/xantheartist The song by Xant…
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Xantheartist is an alternative musician from Oklahoma City. He talks about how he got involved in music, who he is, spirituality and religion, doing good in the world, about his time in the military, and being transgender. Get to know Xantheartist! You can find links to his stuff on his website: https://xantheartist.com/ The song by him playing at …
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Caleb Gray and I went in deep for more music conversation! We talked about making music, sharing it with others, marketing, performing, the amount of data we produce as a culture, the cost of music equipment, the minute details we put into our music that no one will hear, and being willing to hand your creation to someone else to finalize it. It wa…
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