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Beyond the Studio - A Podcast for Artists
Amanda Adams and Nicole Mueller: Artists and Creative Entrepreneurs
Beyond the Studio is a podcast about the career paths of working contemporary artists. Co-hosted by artists Nicole Mueller and Amanda Adams, and featuring interviews with visual artists, makers, and art world professionals, Beyond the Studio aims to bring more transparency to the arts through candid conversations about their business practices, time management, financial planning, and how they’re making a living, creatively—in other words, all of the work that happens “beyond the studio”
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Volume 1 - The first 999 episodes featuring the best new music by Female Indie Artists and Female-Fronted Bands in all genres hand-picked by Bree Noble. Women of Substance Radio has provided a platform for female Indie talent since 2007 and was transitioned into a Podcast in 2014. Each show features 10 - 15 songs and Host Beth Matthew provides interesting tidbits about the artists.
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Lianne Pflug talks Patreon, Connecting Over Shared Interests, and Working with Chronic Illness
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Hear more from Lianne Pflug on graduating from art school into the pandemic, how’s she’s built a community of engaged followers online, connecting with her audience through Patreon while social media becomes more unreliable, staying attuned to her needs as an artist working with chronic illness, and how she’s promoting eco-friendly practices in her…
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Teri Henderson talks Carving Out Space, Creating Platforms for Community, and Balancing Creative Energy
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Hear more from Teri Henderson on allowing her career to develop organically while pivoting from law school to a career as an arts writer, curator, and now Arts and Culture Editor at the Baltimore Beat, overcoming imposter syndrome and carving out her own space, platforming other artists through her curatorial work and Instagram page turned book Bla…
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BTS x Creatives Rebuild New York - Guaranteed Income for Artists
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Hear more from Sarah Calderon and Maura Cuffie-Peterson from Creatives Rebuild New York on how they’re building a movement around guaranteed income for artists, the value in regular, no-strings-attached cash payments, how this differs from other sources of funding like grants, redefining the way we think about artists’ work, what CRNY has learned i…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Financial Transparency in the Arts
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole as they get real about their own numbers, what it costs to sustain a full-time studio practice, the importance of financial transparency in the arts, and aligning your goals to your personal values. - Find links to resources mentioned throughout the episode here in our show notes: beyondthe.studio - Submit to our Li…
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BTS x Inversion Art - Investing in the Future of Artists’ Careers
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Hear more from Inversion Art co-founders Joey Flores and Jonathan Neil, along with artist John Houck, on how they’re combining the art and tech worlds to imagine new ways of investing in artists’ careers, applying a venture capital approach to working with artists, bridging the gap between professional development and capital investment in support …
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Alex Paik talks Growing a Network of Artist-Run Galleries, the Myth of Balance, and Prioritizing Relationships
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Hear more from Alex Paik on the origins of Tiger Strikes Asteroid and how they’re growing a network of artist-run galleries around the country, building an alternative model centered on community, the myth of balance and letting go of control, and what it means to grow horizontally vs. vertically. - Find links to resources mentioned throughout the …
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Christopher Martin talks the Importance of Environment, Power of Osmosis, and Rituals of Self-Care
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Hear more from Christopher Martin on the importance of proximity and the power of showing up, finding the people and places that will lead to opportunities organically, the daily rituals and self-care routines that support his creative work, and learning to love every part of the process. - Find links to resources mentioned throughout the episode h…
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Griff Williams talks Building a Career vs. a Life in the Arts, Community Over Capital, and Treating Everything Like an Art Project
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Hear more from Griff Williams on the process of making his documentary "Tell Them We Were Here," what the stories of artists in the Bay Area can tell us about the struggles of artists universally, why artists choose to stay in places like it despite the high cost of living, sustaining Gallery 16 for more than 30 years in San Francisco by prioritizi…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Craft Shows: Selling Work at In-Person Events
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole as they dive into selling work at craft shows, maker fairs, and pop-ups through Amanda's 10 years of experience at over 100 events, her evolving criteria, red flags, how they fit into her overall business model, the ultimate craft show checklist, and maximizing the experience for sales and new audience members. - Fi…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Public Art: Fabrication and Installation
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole as they debrief on Nicole’s recently finished mosaic and glass project in Tempe, AZ, fabricating and installing large-scale public projects, choosing whether to fabricate a piece yourself vs. outsource, knowing when and how to hire help, juggling multiple projects at once, and staying flexible to the changing needs …
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on why they hit pause on the podcast, evolving as artists while experiencing good growing pains, continually redefining definitions of success, avoiding burnout and adapting your practice when life throws you curveballs, and the importance of community care. Find links to resources mentioned throughout the episode h…
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Paddy Johnson talks Art World Taboos, Internalized Beliefs, and the Myths that Might Be Holding You Back
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Hear more from Paddy Johnson, founder of VVrkshop & Netvvrk, on why artists tend to underprice their work, how artistic production is supported, the emotional toll that systemic issues cause and how community can be the antidote to the structural challenges artists face, and the power of collective knowledge. Beyond the Studio listeners can use the…
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BTS x Serpentine - The Future of Art and Technology
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Hear more from Serpentine Arts Technologies curators Tamar Clarke-Brown & Eva Jäger about their upcoming exhibition “Third World: The Bottom Dimension” featuring Gabriel Massan, how emerging technologies are changing the working conditions of artists and ideas of collective ownership, differentiating between the current use of technologies and thei…
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Adam Holofcener talks Ethics of Copyright, Artist Rights Within Capitalism, and Collective Organizing
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Hear more from Adam on why understanding the law is crucial to creating the more equitable future artists desire, viewing legal writing as a really strange form of poetry, his unique point of view on copyright as both a practicing musician and Executive Director of Maryland Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts, artist rights within capitalism especially …
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Natalie Baxter talks Embracing Uncertainty, Exhibiting Work, and How Being a Mother Changes Everything
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Hear more from Natalie on pivoting from a background in video to building a studio practice around her soft sculpture, what she’s learned from her husband’s career as a freelance photographer about embracing uncertainty, her criteria for saying yes to exhibition opportunities, the realization that being a parent changes everything, moving from the …
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Morel Doucet talks Community-Building, the Power of Storytelling, and Diversifying Your Skillsets
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Hear more from Morel on the impact of diversifying his skills & network as an artist, self-funding projects early in his career leading to collaborations with big brands and gallery representation, using every project to further support his friends and community, storytelling as a political act, and creating more equity in the arts through self-adv…
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Bean Gilsdorf talks Staying Nimble, the Importance of Language, and the Working Conditions of Artists
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Hear more from Bean on balancing a practice as both an arts writer and visual artist, building and rebuilding community when moving from San Francisco to Poland to Portland, the existential nature of defining success in the arts, using a grant from The Andy Warhol Foundation to study the working conditions of artists in Portland and beyond, and the…
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Sarah Thibault talks Patrons, Power Dynamics, and Valuing Your Work
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Hear more from Sarah as we unpack an email exchange with a potential collector that leads to a larger conversation about power dynamics in the art world, the hidden dangers of giving up control over your own market, retaining agency as an artist, valuing your self and work, and how to make ends meet without selling your soul. Annie’s Kit Clubs — Po…
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Ruby Lerner talks Founding Creative Capital, Building an Infrastructure of Support for Artists, and Reflections on a Career of Advocating for the Arts
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Hear more from Ruby Lerner, founding Executive Director of Creative Capital, as she reflects back on her 40 year career advocating for the arts and artists, her advice for emerging arts leaders today, the importance of archiving and personal finance, what it would take to build a nationwide infrastructure of support for artists, and why she remains…
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Christine Wang talks Teaching as Political Action, the Unspoken Rules of the Art World, and Financial Exhibitionism
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Hear more from Christine on the realities of running a studio collective fresh out of art school, her motivations for going to grad school, navigating the unspoken rules of the art world, teaching as as an extension of her political organizing, and being the most naked by sharing her financial breakdown and tax returns. Annie’s Kit Clubs — Podcast …
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Jocelyn Tsaih talks Personal Style, the Emotional Ups and Downs of Being a Freelancer, and Feeding Your Creativity
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Hear more from Jocelyn Tsaih on using day jobs at WeWork and Nickelodeon to launch her career as a freelance artist, navigating the emotional ups and downs of working for herself, honing her personal style to get bigger clients and projects, learning when to say no, and continuing to expand into new disciplines including graphic design, illustratio…
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Amanda and Nicole Talk Visualizing Your Finances as an Artist
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on why it’s important for artists to talk about money, their various income streams as artists, how they gain clarity on their finances through various charts, and the visualization tools they use that all artists can adapt to help reach their financial goals. Annie’s Kit Clubs — Podcast sponsor, delivering creativi…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Public Art: Proposals and Project Budgets
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole as they shed light into the public art process, discuss Nicole’s largest permanent public project to date in Tempe, AZ, how to craft a competitive proposal, streamlining applications, and building a budget that will sustain you. Annie’s Kit Clubs — Podcast sponsor, delivering creativity right to your mailbox with a …
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on what they’ve been up to since taking a break from the podcast last year, how each of their careers have grown, stepping into new disciplines while achieving better work/life balance, and what’s ahead for Beyond the Studio this year. beyondthe.studio Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio Intro and Ad Music by: Suahn…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Boundaries, Burnout, and Shifting Expectations
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on Beyond the Studio’s “summer break,” resisting the urge to self-sacrifice for their creative work, the real effects of burnout on artists, prioritizing care over hustle, how to be flexible with yourself and your goals, and keeping long-term sustainability in mind when it comes to building a creative life. Astropad…
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Taili Wu talks Personal Projects, Collaborating with Others, and Choosing Work That Makes You Happy
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Hear more from Taili Wu on discovering stop-motion animation, building her portfolio through personal projects, allowing work to come to her by focusing on the work that brings her happiness, collaborating with other independent animators, and the importance of open communication. Astropad Studio — Podcast sponsor, the ultimate iPad app for artists…
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Jen Hewett talks Pivoting Your Business, Staying Small and Sustainable, and Setting Boundaries
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Hear more from Jen Hewett on aligning her business with her personal values, the willingness to pivot and make big career changes, resisting the hustle mindset and prioritizing care, slow and consistent growth over time as the key to her success, and navigating the worlds of licensing and book publishing. Astropad Studio — Podcast sponsor, the ulti…
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Ash Keating talks Being Resourceful, Making Massive Work, and Creating Art for Public Spaces
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Hear more from Ash Keating on making massive, environmentally scaled paintings, being resourceful early on in his career, using storytelling to gain community support while working with limited resources, leveraging small opportunities and budgets to create larger ones, and balancing personal and commercial projects when working in public spaces. A…
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We're taking the week off but asking for listener questions and feedback! beyondthestudiopodcast@gmail.com Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad Music by: Suahn Branding by: David ColsonBy Beyond the Studio
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Marie Watt talks Expanding Your Team, Running Your Practice Like a Business, and Navigating Life as a Mid-Career Artist
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Hear more from Marie Watt on leaving the safety net of teaching to pursue her artistic practice full-time, what she learned about professional practices by teaching it to her students, expanding her team, navigating life as a mid-career artist, the importance of archiving, and finding support for community-driven work. beyondthestudiopodcast@gmail.…
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BTS x The Side Woo - Balancing the Spiritual and Practical Sides of a Creative Career
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Hear more from Amanda & Nicole, along with Sarah Thibault & Liz Bernstein, co-hosts of The Side Woo, in our first podcaster roundtable, on cultivating our inner voice to make better decisions, manifesting money, using tarot and astrology to better understand ourselves and our work, and balancing the spiritual and the practical while building a crea…
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Laura Baisden talks Discovering Printmaking, Making Art Fun, and Finding Belonging
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Hear more from Laura Baisden on not fitting in at art school, caught between the pressure to make serious conceptual art and a desire to make art for pure fun and a love of craft, discovering letterpress on first moving to Nashville, finding belonging within the printmaking community, cutting her teeth at big-name studios before starting her own bu…
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Artists Over Institutions: LIVE! from Institute of Contemporary Art San Francisco
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Hear more from Beyond the Studio’s first live and in-person podcast recording at the Institute of Contemporary Art San Francisco, titled “Artists Over Institutions: How Can Arts Organizations Support the Needs of Living, Working Artists?” featuring a lineup of panelists including ICA SF’s Krieger Family Director Alison Gass, Tammy Johnson, Project …
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Maria Brito talks Keys to Creativity, Embracing Risk-Taking, and the Patterns of Successful Artists
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Hear more from Maria Brito, author of “How Creativity Rules the World,” on the overlap between successful artists and entrepreneurs, what we can learn from art history about what it takes for artists to succeed, cultivating a spirit of risk-taking, how to overcome self-limitations, and the small daily practices that can lead to enormous creative br…
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Kiana Honarmand talks Adaptability, Making Big Moves, and Finding Space for Your Work
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Hear more from Kiana Honarmand on growing up in Iran with limited access to art as a woman, making big moves from Iran to the United States and from the east to west coast, adjusting to living and working abroad, being adaptable, finding space to create and store artwork in a city with high cost of living, and having patience while building career.…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Expectations vs. Realities of Being a Full-Time Artist
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on debunking the myths around expectations vs. realities of being a full-time artist, how the boring work is the work, how to adopt the 80/20 rule when it comes to time management, and why adaptability is the most important trait for any artist’s career. Register here for our first LIVE podcast recording at the Inst…
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole as they celebrate their 100th episode of the podcast, announce a giveaway for listeners in partnership with Art World Learning, and share listener insights on the future of the art world. beyondthestudiopodcast@gmail.com Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad Music by: Suahn Branding by: D…
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Amanda and Nicole talk Creativity and Growth Mindsets with their Partners Mike and Dave
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole and their partners Mike and Dave on allowing your creative impulses to shape your life choices, adopting a growth mindset at every stage of your career, how to accelerate learning by taking risks, and finding people that share your vision to help bring creative projects to life. For our 100th episode of the podcast,…
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What do Artists Envision for the Future of the Art World?
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Hear more from Amanda and Nicole on the end of Season 3, their first live in person event in collaboration with ICA SF, and upcoming 100th episode. For our 100th episode of the podcast, we’re asking listeners to email us a short audio recording sharing one thing they’d like to see in the art world, as we imagine a better future. Please keep the rec…
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Josh Cochran talks Self-Discovery, Pushing Creative Within Client Work, and Using Routine to Stay Grounded
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Hear more from Josh on how being in touch with his past informs his work and sense of self, balancing work as a freelance illustrator, teacher, and muralist, how he continually introduces variety and experimentation into professional projects, and the small daily routines that keep him grounded. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio …
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Marcus Maddox talks Materializing Your Inner Vision, Staying Curious, and Supporting a Creative Practice
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Hear more from Marcus on getting his start photographing musicians in Nashville, normalizing day jobs on the road to becoming a full-time freelance photographer, chronicling different chapters of youth with moves to Philadelphia and New York, how he remains curious, and focused on materializing his inner vision. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio …
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Katty Huertas talks Freelance Illustration, the Importance of Professionalism, and Carving out Space for Rest and Creative Outlets
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Hear more from Katty on getting started as a freelance illustrator, practical advice learned from working on the other side as an art director and editorial designer, why she’s holding onto her day job, and how to make space for creative outlets when your passion is your profession. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad …
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Se Jong Cho talks Art and Science, Embracing All Aspects of Identity, and Pursuing Your Curiosities
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Hear more from Se Jong on rediscovering painting while pursuing her PhD in environmental engineering, discovering the unique intersections between art and science, embracing all her interests as a core part of her identity, and the need for more cross-disciplinary collaboration. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad Musi…
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Katie Pumphrey talks Connecting with Collectors, Experimenting In and Out of the Studio, and Diving in Head First
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Hear more from Katie on balancing both the business and artistic sides of career growth simultaneously, navigating the roller coaster of being a full-time artist, making it easy for people to collect her work while forming genuine connections with collectors and galleries, and diving in head first when it comes to experimenting in and outside of th…
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Hear more from Amanda & Nicole on where the podcast is headed in 2022, takeaways from our current season, and redefining what it means to have conversations "beyond the studio" when work and life are so intertwined for artists. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad Music by: Suahn Branding by: David Colson…
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Nicole Mueller talks Managing Large-Scale Projects, Pricing Commissions, and Leaving Behind a Day Job
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Hear more from co-host Nicole Mueller on pricing strategies for commissioned work, managing the logistics of large-scale projects, making the transition to becoming a full-time painter, and the importance of financial transparency in the arts. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro and Ad Music by: Suahn Branding by: David Colso…
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Amanda Adams talks Mental Health, Setting Healthier Boundaries, and Aligning Your Business with Personal Values
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Hear more from co-host Amanda on learning to prioritize mental health as a creative small business owner, how she’s shifting the business model of Close Call Studio to create better work-life boundaries, setting new expectations for customers, and injecting more humanity into her business. Listener Spotlight @beyondthestudio beyondthe.studio Intro …
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If you're new to Beyond the Studio here's a list of great episodes to get you started! "Amanda Adams talks Mental Health, Setting Healthier Boundaries, and Aligning Your Business with Personal Values" "Nicole Mueller talks Managing Large-Scale Projects, Pricing Commissions, and Leaving Behind a Day Job" "Amy Whitaker talks Using Business as a Tool,…
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