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Deconstructing Mamas

Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz

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If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive unde ...
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In this episode I tell the stories of both Hanna Barbera’s 1973 “Charlotte’s Web” and E.B. White’s “Charlotte’s Web”. This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of t…
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In this episode I tell the stories of both Hanna Barbera’s 1973 “Charlotte’s Web” and E.B. White’s “Charlotte’s Web”. This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of t…
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We tend to look for answers outside ourselves. From books. Church. From friends or family. Even from society. We are called deeper, to sink down inside ourselves, where what we need is intertwined with what the Divine has to offer us. The place where we can trust and rest and then go and do. (Esther Goetz) Our guest this week is our very own Esther…
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“We are meaning-making machines. Chaos is uncomfortable, and thinking that everything that happens to us is due to random chance feels cold and impersonal. The brain seeks out patterns and order when they are not necessarily present.” Sarah Henn Hayward Our guest this week is Sarah Henn Hayward. Sarah is a mom of two, an author and our first self-p…
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate. - Malynda Hale Malynda Hale, mom, activist, singer, author and actress, is our guest this week. Malynda uses her voice through her music and social media presence as an educating activist to effect change within social justice, female empowerment, LGBTQ+ rights, the Black Lives Matter movement…
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In this episode I tell the stories of both Disney’s “Frozen” and Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Snow Queen” to illustrate the vast difference between Disney’s movie and the source material. This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith …
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The Church needs to be called out and take responsibility for the damage it has done to people. The survivors should be heard. So no, I don't always talk about the good. Because until the darkness is exposed, and more people are removed from power that absolutely should not be in it, I will not be quiet. - Amber Schultz Amber Schultz, founder of Fu…
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Deconstruction invites us to become really honest about what we believe, why we hold those beliefs sacred, how they influence the way we relate to our creator, and who is actually served by our beliefs. If we trust the process enough to lower our walls and honestly engage with our questions, deconstruction promises to reveal undiscovered bias, limi…
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The question we need to ask is this one: Am I being pushed by fear or led by love? (Emily P. Freeman) We are absolutely thrilled to have Emily P. Freeman join us on the podcast this week. Emily is a New York Times best-selling author, a mom to three, a spiritual director and podcast hostess. Her most important work is to help create soul space and …
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Comparing and contrasting Silver Pictures’/20th Century Fox’s “Die Hard” with the novel “Nothing Lasts Forever” by Roderick Thorp This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Sect…
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I want to be a voice for the invisibles. (Leslie Nease) What do a Survivor contestant, deconstructing mama of four bigs, former Christian radio broadcaster, life and faith transitions coach, author and newly-minted podcast hostess have in common? They are all named Leslie Nease, our podcast guest this week. Leslie is quick-witted, well-spoken and p…
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*trigger warning* “My passion is to have a kinder and gentler world for our little people in faith spaces.” (Matt Shantz) Meet Matt Shantz, husband, dad, social worker in child and adolescent mental health, and spiritual mentor. Matt is our podcast guest this week and we are so grateful to have had one of the most complicated, difficult and needed …
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I’m trying to be in alignment with what I understand what the true principles of love to actually be. (Stephanie Stalvey) The passionate and kind Stephanie Stalvey is our guest this week on the podcast. Stephanie is a deconstructing mama of one, high school art teacher, and painter writer and comic book artist extraordinaire. She loves music and an…
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“God is like a fort, strong and secure with walls that are mighty and safe. Inside, there are hidden places to hold you when you’re scared or need a quiet place to rest.” What is God Like (Matthew Paul Turner & Rachel Held Evans) The spunky and amazing Matthew Paul Turner is our guest this week on the podcast. Matthew is a dad of three, New York Ti…
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“You aren't going to mess up your kids' theology." (Sarah Swartzendruber) The brilliant Sarah Swartzendruber is our guest this week on the podcast. Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith curriculum creator (Zippee) and cohort leader for Parenting After Deconstruction. Most of the parents who reach out to her know what they don't want to teach their k…
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“Self-discovery is the goal. Self-compassion is the vibe." (Trisha Wilkerson) We start off Season Five with Trisha Wilkerson as our guest this week on the podcast. And it's really good! Trisha is a deconstructing mama, author, former pastor's wife turned certified Nutrition Coach. She works with individuals and groups, guiding a behavioral change p…
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Comparing and contrasting Silver Pictures’/20th Century Fox’s “Die Hard” with the novel “Nothing Lasts Forever” by Roderick Thorp This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Sect…
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Comparing and contrasting Silver Pictures’/20th Century Fox’s “Die Hard” with the novel “Nothing Lasts Forever” by Roderick Thorp This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Sect…
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“Chronic trauma can overwhelm our internal coping resources. Trauma disrupts the same system that regulates our body’s stress response causing a hyperactive fight-or-flight reaction. It’s not just all in our head. It’s in our bodies too. (Brittany Moses) Guess what??? The guests on our podcasts this week are...drum roll please... us. We are closing…
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Comparing and contrasting Shamley Productions/Paramount Pictures “PSYCHO” with the novel “PSYCHO” by Robert Bloch This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of the C…
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“Admitting we could be wrong about the things we are most convinced of, that are so fundamental to who we are, is painful and becoming someone new is scary.” (an excerpt from Godbreathed, Zack Hunt) Zack Hunt (sometimes known as Zaack Hunt around the internet, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, prolific author and BBQ magician extraordinaire, is …
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“My love, God is here when you choose goodness and are living from your heart. When you follow the path of love, God is with you from the start. And God is there when you mess up, if you make a choice that isn’t best. It doesn’t mean you’re bad; it just means you’re human-like all the rest.” (an excerpt from My Love, God is Everywhere) Victoria Rob…
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Comparing and contrasting Shamley Productions/Paramount Pictures “PSYCHO” with the novel “PSYCHO” by Robert Bloch This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of the C…
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"I would hope never to feel so confident in my theology as not to be willing to correct a wrong view once presented with compelling evidence." Chad Bahl (Deconstructing Hell) Chad Bahl is our podcast guest this week. Chad is a theologian, step-dad and author. Chad is also a kind, humble, deep, brilliant soul who is on a personal mission to seek the…
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“In a time when we love to keep ourselves separated from one another with our ideologies and beliefs, liminality asks how we exist in those in between spaces.” - Kaitlin Curtis (Living Resistance) Kaitlin Curtice is our podcast guest this week. Kaitlin is an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, and public speaker. As an enrolled citizen of the P…
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“Following Jesus out of the entanglements of Christian supremacy and white supremacy are deep convictions. We believe God desires so much more from the Church than the frequently empty religiosity and hypocrisy we have become adjusted to.” --Dr. Drew Hart Dr. Drew Hart, black activist, racial reconciliation expert, biblical studies professor and fa…
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit The Battle of the Five Armies” with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use…
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Kyndall Rae Rothaus, a preacher, poet, feminist theologian, spiritual director, and preaching coach, is our guest this week. She is the author of Thy Queendom Come: Breaking Free from Patriarchy to Save Your Soul (2021) and Preacher Breath (2015). She is the co-founder and Executive Director of Nevertheless She Preached, a national, ecumenical prea…
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This Week on the Podcast: Dr. Glenn Siepert, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, author and podcast host of the What If Project, is our guest this week.Glenn creates a safe space for people to explore this idea: What if there are ways of thinking about God and faith that are different than what our traditions have handed us? . On this episode, we …
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Tara Teng, an Embodiment Coach who works in the intersections of spirituality and sexuality, is our guest this week. Tara helps people find their way back to their bodies, overcome shame, heal trauma and dismantle purity culture in a way that is in alignment with their values and beliefs so that they can build a healthy, sexual ethic and thrive in …
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit The Battle of the Five Armies” with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the […] The …
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Ericka Graham, freelance pastor and Bible-nerd extraordinaire, mama to two littles, recovering 12-stepper, and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. Ericka has a passion for reframing the Bible to be a source of life and healing and spreading that word far and wide. On this episode, we dive deep into the hard spaces of OCD manifested in scrupulo…
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Dr. Eric Seibert, Old Testament scholar and professor, dad of tweens and teens, prolific author and Minecraft guru, (yes, you read that right) is our guest this week. Eric is passionate against churchce sanctioned violenebecause he is troubled by how much violence Christians condone and sometimes participate in. I do NOT believe this is what God in…
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We continue Season Four with Mary DeJong. Mary lives in Seattle, Washington's Rainier Valley in Columbia City, at Hedgewood, a home that for over a decade has hosted community connection through the reclamation and restoration of a neighborhood forest. Mary finds herself an eco-theologian and urban naturalist who delves into why place matters, the …
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit And Unexpected Journey” with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctri…
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We are so excited to launch Season Four with Dr. Laura E. Anderson, the author of that wisdom. Dr. Laura is a psychotherapist, trauma resolution coach and consultant, writer and educator specializing in complex and developmental trauma, dynamics of power and control and religious trauma. She views herself as still a work in progress. She believes h…
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit And Unexpected Journey” with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctri…
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit And Unexpected Journey” with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctri…
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit And Unexpected Journey with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrin…
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Annalise Hume, is our guest on our perfectly-timed summer bonus episode. Annalise is a passionate, creative, down-to-earth mover who loves listening and asking questions to help others recognize the movement of God in their life. After growing up in Boise, Idaho, she earned a BFA in Dance, spending a year touring with a performing-arts organization…
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Comparing and contrasting New Line Cinema/MGM’s “The Hobbit And Unexpected Journey with the classic novel “The Hobbit” by J.R.R. Tolkien This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrin…
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Comparing and contrasting Disney’s “James and the Giant Peach” with the classic children’s novel by Roald Dahl This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of the […] …
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Bekah McNeel is our final guest of Season Three. Bekah is a native of San Antonio, Texas, where she has been a reporter for nine years. Her work has appeared in print with Christianity Today, The San Antonio Current, and the Public Justice Review, as well as online with the Christian Science Monitor, Sojourners, the Texas Tribune, the Hechinger Rep…
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Matt Mattson, the "starter" of both the BETWEEN community and Today I Pray For You project on Instagram and Facebook, is our guest this week. Matt dreams of creating a global relational religious movement. Matt believes “church” (and faith exploration) can and should happen in our conversations with others. He's passionate that the space between us…
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Liz Mall, apologist (fancy word for someone who uses "argument" and "reason" to make a point that something is or isn't true and she has her masters in this area of expertise), deconstructing mama of three littles and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. She and her cohost provide incredible resources for both faith deconstruction and reconstru…
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Melissa Neeb, author, deconstructing mama of two teens, avid photographer, and podcast hostess is our guest this week. Her mantra is "love big, live kind" and there could be nothing truer about Melissa. She's highly committed to loving without strings, inclusive of everyone who walks into her home or her life and kindness is her main squeeze. When …
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Comparing and contrasting Disney’s “James and the Giant Peach” with the classic children’s novel by Roald Dahl This podcast contains certain copyrighted works that were not specifically authorized to be used by the copyright holder(s), but which we believe in good faith are protected by federal law and the fair use doctrine (Section 107 of the […] …
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Mike Morrell, coauthor of the Divine Dance with Richard Rohr (a pretty big deal), dad of two, an opti-mystic (which he likes to call himself), and Dudeist Priest (look it up here), is our guest this week. He's a contemplative-in-process, seeking a more grounded experience of God, life, himself and the world, not because of grand mystical aspiration…
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Dr. Camden Morgante, psychologist, coach, writer, and fellow mama is passionate about purity culture recovery, egalitarianism and reconstruction. She currently lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband and her two beautiful children. We know what is wrong with purity culture—now we need to know how to heal. As a licensed psychologist specializing in …
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