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Human trafficking involves using force, fraud, or coercion to compel a person into commercial sex acts or labor against their will. I’m Penny Ronning, the daughter of a trafficking survivor. I co-founded the Yellowstone Human Trafficking Task Force with Stephanie Baucus, the FBI, and the United States Attorney’s Office District of Montana. Our podcast exposes the dark world of modern-day slavery. We refuse to turn a blind eye to this crime. In our podcast, we expose traffickers and buyers, d ...
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The Witch Wave

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The Witch Wave is a podcast for bewitching conversation about magic, creativity, and culture. On each episode, host Pam Grossman speaks with a leading visionary about art and Craft.
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Join me on a journey through some of the most heinous, macabre, and enigmatic murders from across the globe and throughout history in this immersive exploration of solved and unsolved shocking true crime cases. In this independently run show, I dive deep into the stories of the victims, as well as the killers and the detectives who put them behind bars, bringing to life detailed, vivid, and objective re-tellings of disturbing murders.
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Jan Edwards from the Paving the Way Foundation discusses the strategy of disrupting the cycle of child trafficking and online exploitation through education and awareness programs. She emphasizes the prevalence of child trafficking and exploitation, both in rural and urban areas, and the role of online platforms (Big Tech) in facilitating these cri…
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This season finale of The Witch Wave features Suranne Jones, the award-winning English actor, producer, and series creator. She’s been nominated for several awards for acting and won a BAFTA for her starring role in the hit series Doctor Foster: A Woman Scorned. Some highlights from her decades long television career include starring roles in Gentl…
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Rebekah Hope shares her personal story of surviving childhood sexual abuse, gang activity, and human trafficking. Rebekah’s story begins at a young age in Billings, Montana, takes her to Atlanta, Georgia where she escapes with her life, and follows her back to Montana where she begins her healing journey. In this conversation, Rebekah emphasizes th…
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In this uplifting conversation, Rosemary Smith, from the Getting Better Foundation, discusses with Penny Ronning the positive impact of media literacy and critical thinking skills on combating human trafficking and strengthening democracy. Rosemary shares the story of Edgar Welch and Pizzagate to illustrate how misinformation can lead to violence a…
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Cat Willett is a Brooklyn-based artist. She has written, illustrated, and published two full-length books. The first is The Queen of Wands: The Story of Pamela Colman Smith, the Artist Behind the Rider-Waite Tarot Deck. Her newest book, Women of Tarot, An Illustrated History of Divinators, Card Readers, and Mystics is out next week. Cat is fascinat…
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Julia Lillethun bravely shares her story of resilience and healing after surviving a brutally and sexually violent attack by a serial rapist. She talks about the physical and emotional trauma she experienced, as well as the judgment and victim-blaming she faced. Julia also discusses the challenges of overcoming self-blame and accepting what happene…
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In this episode, Louie Greek from TAT (Truckers Against Trafficking), focuses on the efforts being made in the trucking industry to fight sex trafficking. The conversation covers various topics such as what sex trafficking looks like on American highways, the crucial role played by truck drivers in combating trafficking, the significance of survivo…
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Kimberly Rodriguez (@poetagoddess) is a first-generation Indigenous Mexican artist and writer based in the Bay Area, CA. Her art reflects her journey toward reclaiming her indigenous roots and exploring different forms of self-expression. As an artist, Kimberly is deeply committed to creating work that is inclusive and accessible to all. She believ…
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Prior to Interview: Clip of Chris McKenna testifying before the United States Congress. In this conversation, Chris McKenna, the founder of Protect Young Eyes, stresses the essential role of parents in educating their children about technology and the digital world. He emphasizes the importance of building a strong foundation of trust and communica…
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Singer-songwriter and actress, Juliette Angelo, shares her story of survival, including experiences of child exploitation and abuse. She sheds light on the lack of protection and enforcement of child labor laws in the entertainment industry, particularly in theater and dance. Juliette highlights the sexualization of child actors and the disturbing …
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Pati Dubroff is an iconic, world-renowned makeup artist. She has worked with such glamazons as Margot Robbie, Kirsten Dunst, Elizabeth Olsen, Laura Dern, Christy Turlington, Priyanka Chopra, and Emma Watson to name but a few. She’s also collaborated with such photographic phenoms as Annie Leibovitz, Peter Lindbergh, and Tom Munro, and her artistry …
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Jessica Kay shares her personal story of being trafficked and the challenges she faced on her journey towards healing. She underlines the need for stronger safety measures for at-risk youth and other vulnerable populations, as well as the importance of educational programs on prevention in schools and systems. In this episode Jessica highlights the…
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Jenna McKaye is a survivor leader and advocate who shares her story, healing journey, and work done to stay on her path of healing. In this episode, she talks of being trafficked at a young age by someone she trusted, and the importance of healthcare providers being educated in identifying trafficking victims and providing resources to leave their …
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Christopher Marmolejo is a Brown, queer, and trans writer, diviner, and educator. They use divination to promote a literacy of liberation, and their new book Red Tarot: A Decolonial Guide to Divinatory Literacy is an in-depth exploration of how tarot can be a tool of freedom, magical interrogation, and energetic support for anyone, and particularly…
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Ron Regé, Jr. is a Los Angeles-based cartoonist who began drawing and self-publishing comics in the early 1990s in Cambridge, MA. Though he came out of zine culture and the underground comics scene, his work took a distinctly mystical turn thanks to a spiritual awakening he had the early 2000s. From that point on, his comics turned cosmic, explorin…
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Jodi Wille is a director and producer of the critically acclaimed documentary The Source Family and her brand new feature documentary Welcome Space Brothers which is about The Unarius Academy of Science. Her work explores people whose extraordinary true stories and creations leave us with new ways of seeing, and she has a special interest in so-cal…
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Penny Slinger is a Los Angeles–based artist whose work investigates the feminine, the magical and the erotic. In the late 1960s, her encounters with the work of Max Ernst initiated an enduring involvement with both the Surrealist movement and the medium of collage. Her groundbreaking publications such as 50% The Visible Woman (1971) and An Exorcism…
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Robin Ha is an award-winning author and illustrator of several graphic novels including the best-selling comic recipe book Cook Korean!: A Comic Book With Recipes and the illustrated memoir Almost American Girl which is about her move from South Korea to America when she was 14. Robin’s new graphic novel, The Fox Maidens is her first foray into fic…
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Soull & Dynasty Ogun are identical twins who together are the forces behind their design and thought incubator, L’Enchanteur, which they founded in 2017. L'Enchanteur is a multifaceted design house, creating unique and ethereal fine jewelry, accessories, and garments which draw from esoterica and alchemical symbolism, the mystical practices of thei…
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Dr. Amy Hale is an Atlanta-based writer, curator, critic, ethnographer, and folklorist, who focuses on esoteric history, magic, art, culture, women, and Cornwall. She has written widely on the surrealist and occultist Ithell Colquhoun, and in 2009 she received a grant from the Paul Mellon Foundation for her research. Her biography of Colquhoun, Ith…
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Chelsea Wolfe is a critically-acclaimed singer, guitarist, and songwriter, who has been hailed by Guitar World as “the queen of gothic industrial guitar.” Her dark and dreamy music has also been described as doom-folk and goth-folk, though her albums have spanned genre from rock to electronica. She’s been celebrated for her solo offerings and her c…
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It was inevitable that George Joseph Smith would end up in jail one day. The only question was, how long would it take for his cunning crimes to be uncovered? George was a master of deception who swindled a string of lovers out of their life savings and ensured he was named as the beneficiary in the wills of his many wives. He had a curious obsessi…
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Lisa Stardust (they/she) is a New York City-based astrologer who has been part of the astrology community for over 15 years. She writes columns for O Magazine, Teen Vogue, The Hoodwitch, Cosmo, Bust, British Vogue, and more. She has also been featured in Vice, Refinery29, Bustle, The Daily Mail, and InStyle to name a few. Lisa is the author of the …
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When Shelly Walsh dropped her kids off at her dad’s on the evening of 30th June 2008, she had no idea it would be the last time she would ever see her son, daughter, and mother alive. What made an ordinary, loving grandfather in New South Wales, Australia, turn into a mass murderer overnight, killing his entire family without warning? Thanks for li…
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Renowned image alchemist Stephen Ellcock is a London-based curator, writer, researcher, and online collector of images who has spent the last decade creating an ever-expanding virtual museum of art that is open to all via social media, attracting more than 600,000 followers worldwide. He is the author of many art books including All Good Things, Th…
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What happened to 14-year-old Thora Chamberlain, who was abducted on the way to watch a school football game one Friday afternoon? The main suspect, who had a cunning ruse and a bold disguise, went on the run across America with the FBI hot on his trail. Even after he was captured, he continued to protest his innocence until the end. My Website Twit…
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In 1984, a serial burglar and rapist was at large in England, his crimes spanning several Home Counties as well as the northeast of the country. He was armed, masked and dangerous, and he had an unusual calling card – in every house he broke into, he built himself a blanket fort in the living room and made himself at home, watching television and d…
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Nikoo Bafti is an Iranian-British visual artist and illustrator currently based in Rome, Italy. After graduating with an honors BA degree in Illustration from the Arts University of Bournemouth, Nikoo began her early career as an animation intern at Disney Channel UK, and has since been working independently as an illustrator as well as exhibiting …
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In this episode, I’m bringing you a collection of short but grisly cases from the 1800s, which on their own would be too short for an episode, but they’re too intriguing not to share so I’ve put three of them together. Let’s go back in time for a whistle-stop tour of three crimes ranging from the brutal to the mysterious. If you’re looking for murd…
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Juliet Diaz returns to The Witch Wave! She is an Indigenous Taino Cubana from a long line of brujx and spiritualists. She is also a Behike, which is medicine woman and keeper of the Higuayagua Taino tribe. She is also a spiritual & literary activist, an award-winning writer, and a remarkable seven-time bestselling author, with her works being trans…
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When a pair of legs washed up in Clifford Pier Harbour in Singapore, the police knew something was very wrong. That same week, a South African tourist who had travelled to the country to buy the latest electronics was reported missing. He would never make it home. Somehow, in a country with one of the lowest crime rates in the world and a draconian…
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Ketzirah Lesser, haMa’agelet (The Circle Maker), is a maker and teacher of the sacred arts who is an ordained Kohenet and Celebrant as well as holding a BFA from the University of Miami. Through Devotaj Sacred Arts, she explores Jewishly-rooted making, mussar, and magick to connect past, present, & possible future(s); cræfting artifacts for a forgo…
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What kind of killer could chisel out the panel of a door and creep inside without waking a soul? How was he so light on his feet that nobody heard him coming on the dark, moonless nights on which he struck? That’s what the people of New Orleans were asking themselves when their city was terrorised by a mysterious Axeman who targeted Italian grocers…
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Bri Luna returns to the show in celebration of her new book, BLOOD, SEX, MAGIC, a gorgeous visual grimoire teeming with spells, photography, artwork, and personal anecdotes meant to inspire the reader’s own witchcraft and self-expression. Luna is the founder of The HoodWitch, a web platform and lifestyle brand dedicated to empowering, educating, an…
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Anjette Donovan Lyles ran a popular diner in downtown Macon, Georgia and she oozed Southern charm, wowing customers with her lemon pie and banana pudding. But behind the home-cooked meals and the bright red lipstick-smile, lurked a dangerous killer from whom none of her family members were safe… Thanks for listening! Here's how to get in touch with…
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Welcome to Season 7 of The Witch Wave! Chris Fleming is an American comedian whose viral videos and standup specials have earned him millions of fans. His blend of gender-bending fashion, elastic physicality, obscure observations, addictively silly original songs, and adoration of unhinged puppets is an irresistible comedic brew. He is perhaps best…
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Ronald Ruse was a happy, easy-going young man who enjoyed surfing and softball in his home state of sunny California. But when he met girlfriend Linda Ricchio, everything changed for the worse. This is a sad and alarming story of obsession and stalking that culminated in disaster and ruined more than one life. Thanks for listening! Here’s how you c…
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When a family man desperate for excitement in his mundane life created a fake online persona and swiped right on a beautiful young woman on Tinder, he intended to take advantage of her naivety and hook up with her for casual sex. But neither of them knew it would be a match made in hell...and it was only a matter of time before deception escalated …
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When a WWII veteran was approached in Philadelphia by a man in a distinctive alpine hat, the two seemed to hit it off. But by the next morning, one of them would be dead and the other would become the object of a manhunt after a grisly discovery was made inside an abandoned footlocker. But was the case as clear cut as it seemed? Thanks for listenin…
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Why did it take so long for the killer of 16-year-old Lynn Siddons to be brought to justice? This case involved a man who was obsessed with Jack the Ripper and blamed his crimes on his stepson, and a police force who were woefully inefficient in tackling the case. Lynn’s tenacious grandmother was forced to fight for the truth, in an 18-year legal b…
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It should have been obvious that for school cleaner Vincent Stanford, spying on girls in the bathroom was just the beginning. When he began stalking a 12-year-old pupil and amassed hundreds of photos of her, it was only a matter of time before he escalated to rape and murder. His victim was dedicated teacher Stephanie Scott, whose life he cut short…
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In the Peak District in 1977, the ‘Year of the Knife’ continued with a robbery that shocked a quiet village, culminating in the murder of a bank clerk and the kidnap of his colleague. Could the police find her in time before the cold night drew in across the freezing Gunn Hill moorland? Thanks for listening! Here’s how you can get in touch with com…
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A birdwatching getaway in the Peak District that should have been uneventful was the inspiration for this episode, with my wife and I accidentally choosing to stay just a few hundred yards from the scene of a notorious set of murders, which we learned about by chance. It seems that true crime follows me everywhere… (my wife still doesn’t believe th…
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In this episode, we look at the tragic case of young mother Denise Amber Lee who was abducted from her own home in broad daylight, and the advanced forensics that led to the successful conviction of her captor. Could Denise have been saved if the police had responded more quickly to information provided by a witness? Thanks for listening! Here’s ho…
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When Laura Black landed her dream job in Silicon Valley, she had no idea that she would become the object of a co-worker’s obsessive desires. Everywhere she went, Richard Farley seemed to be there. Everything she did, Richard Farley was watching. Finally, the sustained stalking episode culminated in a violent showdown that became one of California’…
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It was Christmas of 1970, and Charles King and Christopher Lowery were watching a motorcycle race at Mack Park in Hamilton, Australia. Most 18-year-olds at the race that day were innocently chatting about bikes and beer. But Lowery and King were not most 18-year-olds, and they were talking about what it would be like to kill a girl. It was only a m…
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In this episode, we’ll be tackling a cross-border killer who sparked an investigation on both sides of the English Channel, involving both the British and French police. This case includes science experiments, missing bodies, bin bags, chickens and frogs…not to mention the clever forensics that put this quirky perpetrator behind bars. Here’s how yo…
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We’ve made it to the end of a gruelling, terrifying, emotional journey through London’s East End in the Autumn of Terror of 1888. Thank you so much for joining me as we explored each of the Jack the Ripper murders and the historical context of the time. Now, we conclude by reviewing some of the key suspects in this mini-series wrap-up. Can we ever …
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Sadie Dupuis is the guitarist, songwriter, and singer of rock band Speedy Ortiz, whose albums include Major Arcana, Foil Deer, Twerp Verse, and their forthcoming album, Rabbit Rabbit which is about to be released on Sept 1 of this year. She is also the producer and multi-instrumentalist behind the pop project Sad13, through which she’s released the…
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