“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.
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The Zee Marketing Podcast features insightful conversations about marketing, sales, entrepreneurship, and more with top experts, authors, and business leaders. Hosted by Zev Gotkin, founder/CEO of ZEV Media, a premier, boutique digital marketing agency.
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Our previous two seasons began with a guest named Scott. This year we start with a Stamp and we couldn't be happier! Jack Stamp stops in to share his journey from being a seventh-grade percussionist to becoming a composer and conductor. He reveals his experiences in the music industry, including his work with various ensembles and publishers. Jack …
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Peter Shankman is a serial entrepreneur, author, speaker, podcaster, and thought leader in marketing and public relations. Ever wanted to be quoted in a major news outlet as an authority or an expert in your space? Now, you can get valuable PR placements for free. In this conversation, we talked about Peter’s free new online service, Source of Sour…
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Make no mistake; people don't just buy the product. They're also buying YOU. When you're selling anything, remember that you're also selling yourself. One man who has done a great job selling himself -- and B2B solutions -- is our guest, Luca Giorgiantonio. To succeed in sales, your prospect needs to feel that you're passionate about what you're se…
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Hey Commuters - We are back for another season! This episode is especially bad as it contains no guests! Instead, you can listen to Phil, Peter, and Chris reunite after an eventful summer filled with medical visits, witness relocation programs, and new seasons resolutions. This is definitely an espisode to skip but I guess you've come this far...wh…
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Sell Like a Badass, Not Like a Douche with Coach Dan Gordon
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Coach Dan Gordon is a sales trainer, podcaster, and the author of No Douchebag Selling “Sell like a badass…Not like a douche!” Dan Gordon’s training and workshops (link below) are designed for badass entrepreneurs who want more clients, but selling makes them feel sick. Coach Dan Gordon is here to help you reframe how you look at sales and selling …
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Transforming Business Travel with Ardor Trip
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My guest is Ardor Technologies Head of Sales (North America), Brian Hellgeth. Business travel can be difficult. Last-minute schedule changes, new cities to visit, clients to support, etc. Wouldn't it be great for your travel partner to support you? Ardor is a next-generation all-in-one business travel and expense management platform focused on busi…
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Unique Luxury Travel Experiences with Matt Stein
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Matt Stein is the Founder and President of Unique Luxury Travels, a custom travel consultancy where he combines his knowledge and expertise in luxury experiences with his deep-rooted love for art and wine. Driven by his unwavering passion for exploration and voracious curiosity about other cultures, Matt Stein made the daring choice to leave an ill…
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Behind the Brand of Tommy Bahama with CEO Doug Wood
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Doug Wood is the CEO of Tommy Bahama, the world-renowned American fashion and lifestyle brand. Tommy Bahama sells tropical island-inspired casual clothing, accessories, footwear, and home furnishings for men and women. Toward the end of 2023, the brand opened Tommy Bahama Miramonte Resort & Spa, a luxury resort in Indian Wells, California. Learn Mo…
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How to Stop Being Boring with Rochelle Lisner
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Rochelle Lisner is the founder of Dynamic Business Growth. She is a sales and customer service coach who has worked with corporations, entrepreneurs, small business owners, and solopreneurs for two decades, helping them perfect their elevator pitches, be more interesting, and, as she puts it, “story tell” rather than “boring tell.” Rochelle Lisner …
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Tracking Real Consumer Reactions with EmotionTrac
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Aaron Itzkowitz is the founder and CEO of EmotionTrac. EmotionTrac is an AI-driven AdTech tool that replaces the need for a focus group. Using insights from real people combined with AI, EmotionTrac uncovers the emotional triggers that tell you how people respond to your ad. In this episode, Aaron Itzkowitz describes how EmotionTrac works and outli…
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Brand Strategy and Messaging with Marty Katz
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Marty Katz is a Marketing Consultant with over 40 years of experience specializing in brand messaging. He is also the founder of Connectors 360. Marty Katz helps retail, entertainment, and packaged goods companies develop a message that connects them with their audience, creates engagement, and generates sales. In this episode, Mary Katz and I disc…
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Digital Media Strategy with Darryl Haberman
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In this episode, we sit down with Darryl Haberman, a digital media strategist, consultant, and fractional COO with a passion for driving business growth through innovative content and collaboration. With over 25 years of experience working with industry giants like Disney+, ESPN, Major League Baseball, and the National Hockey League, Darryl shares …
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The Season 2 Finale is here! As you will hear, we end the season with more of a whimper than a bang. Regardless, thank you for sticking with us through another season. We are tremendously grateful to all of our guests this past season as well as our six listeners. Have a great summer! We look forward to subjecting you to more mind numbing banter ne…
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Our final guest of season 2 is Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin, the 29th Director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band! Our conversation covers Ryan's career path from public school music teacher to staff arranger and now Director of "The President's Own." We learn more about his work in this role as well as collaborations with Beyoncé, Kelly Cl…
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In this episode, we talk to Peter about his trip to Panama. No, it is not part of the witness protection program...well, not this time. Our guests, Tim and Christine Baumann share with us their amazing journey in music education (and the planet). They talk about their experiences teaching music in Hong Kong and their roles as co-directors of the In…
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Neco Turkienicz is the president and CEO of Leib Productions, a video marketing agency that specializes in shooting testimonial videos remotely. He is an experienced videographer and marketer who has shot documentaries and commercials for big brands and offers his remote testimonial video packages at refreshingly affordable, reasonable rates. In th…
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In this episode, Phil turns 50. Don’t worry, his status with AARP doesn’t affect his podcasting ability. Thankfully, Jeff Ball stops by for a chat. Jeff is the Director of Bands and Coordinator of Performing Arts at the Grand Street Campus (GSC) High Schools in the Bushwick neighborhood of Brooklyn, NY. He is also the Founder, Artistic Director and…
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Dr. Josh Becker, a trombone player and elementary school teacher, shares his experiences and insights. He teaches fifth grade and coordinates the elementary band program in the Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District in Minnesota. He also runs an instrument donation program, providing instruments to students who cannot afford them. Dr. Becker …
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This week's guest is John Mackey. It is worth the listen even with the three hosts still involved. Yet, it is important to note an interesting development - the software we use to produce this podcast now offers AI episode summary and "takeaways". This week's takeaways were too good not to share: Takeaways Sometimes it's necessary to hide in a clos…
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If you can make it through today's banter which covers hockey skate sharpening, lawn care, tea parties, and changing a tires, you are in for a treat. Today we welcome the "Mandan Dynasty" Jon & Sara Baumann. John and Sarah Bauman, are music educators from Mandan, North Dakota, known for their contributions to the All State Band Program and their su…
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Shortest Show Ever!! You are welcome! See you next week with TWO fabulous guests! Support the Show.By Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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Well they said it would never happen --Erin Gleason, fabulous music educator, flautist, and spouse of Chris, in a moment of weakness or sympathy, joins us on the show. In an episode that could be subtitled, "tell us what you really think", Erin gives us her honest opinion of the show, grills, clutter, bad banter, and band-o-ramas. In what some migh…
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After a well-deserved break from us, we are back to interrupt your life with more mind-numbing banter. This week, we have no guests……but wait….before you hit the delete button consider listening to this episode featuring some of our favorite moments over the past two years. As you will hear in our pre-banter banter, we hesitate to call this a “best…
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Josef Katz is a senior-level marketer and CMO known for his expertise in helping startups grow. Nicknamed the “Direct Maestro” and the “Startup Marketing Guy”, Josef Katz is specialized in building strategic and growth marketing programs for startups. Josef Katz is the Director of Marketing and Communications at the Jewish Learning Initiative on Ca…
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Transforming, Healing, and Cultivating Connection
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Sydney Campos believes social media can be better and live up to its potential. Join us for a lively conversation about social media, community, and human connection! Sydney Campos is an accomplished author, serial entrepreneur, and the founder of Ascend as well as the Chief of Staff of Mattermore. She is passionate about mental health, human conne…
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Here to celebrate St. Patrick's Day is our favorite Irish loving composer, Michael Sweeney! Even our below average banter session didn't sway Michael from sharing a wonderful hour looking back at his start as a musician and composer. We get his perspective on what has changed in composition over the course of his career and learn more about the Hal…
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Building a Profitable Business You Can Sell
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In this episode, we're joined by Tina Liu, a seasoned financial professional based out of San Diego, California, and President of TSL Partner, a consultancy that provides fractional accounting and financial advisory services to guide entrepreneurs through every phase of their company's growth and journey. They say you should start with the end in m…
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In this episode of Beyond Artless, we sit down with the remarkable Dr. Shauna Pickens, an esteemed educator/conductor, trombonist, and Professor at Texas Tech University. Once we get the trombone jokes out of the way, we learn a lot from Dr. Pickens about her later journey through music education, teaching in a low SES school, mentors, and her supp…
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An Ode to Writing in the Age of AI Part II
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Recorded June 8th, 2023 Zev Gotkin in conversation with Adam Karofsky. Two content writers continue their conversation about AI and its impact on the written word. Adam Karofsky is a professional content writer and editor, and the owner of the business, ASK Writes. Adam specializes in creating content, such as articles, blogs, and books that are tr…
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Get Over Yourself and Delegate with Dave Kerpen
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In his new book titled Get Over Yourself: How to Lead and Delegate Effectively for More Time, More Freedom, and More Success, Dave Kerpen teaches effective strategies for leadership and delegation. Written in a quick and readable style for the modern-day entrepreneur, manager, or leader operating in our new world of hybrid and remote work, this use…
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The competition for dullest pre-guest banter continues on. Following closely behind pre-guest banter is dull post-guest banter. Thankfully, we’re able to steal Peter away from his tour for a few minutes. Chris and Phil have nothing important to be stolen away from. Our guest this week is clearly the most comfortable commentator we have ever had on …
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Ever wonder who organizes that big get-together during the holidays? No, I’m not talking about your family’s holiday bash at your Uncle Louie’s house. I’m talking about the Midwest Clinic in Chicago. Kelly Bell is the Executive Director of the Midwest Clinic. She joins us for a wonderful chat about the inner workings of the Clinic, her time at Conn…
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In celebration of the Minnesota Music Educators Association (MMEA) Conference this past week, we are pleased to have the fantastic Minnesota music educator Paul Kile with us. Paul shares his upbringing, including the LaCrosse Boys Choir, cymbals, and a skiff (you'll just have to listen). We talk about his amazing work teaching high school band at E…
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Commuters who have been with us since the beginning have grown to appreciate the “homespun” nature of the podcast. Well, maybe not appreciate, but gently tolerate? Phil learns the value of restarting his laptop and pays the price by offering very little for the first half of the episode (shut out). We learn about Ferryville, Wisconsin and surroundi…
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Mike George is a legendary figure in the arts education community in Wisconsin and beyond. His leadership has impacted thousands of people over his highly successful career. What an honor to spend an hour with Mike as he shares his childhood experiences and passion for music, discussing his teaching career, involvement in polka bands, and fine arts…
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This man is Non-Stop! The podcast continues this week by exploring the stories and journey of an extraordinary individual in the world of arts and music - Buddy Deshler. A former Dallas Brass musician, Professor at Furman University, and all-around crazy trumpeter. We dive into Buddy’s early experiences with music, his time with the Dallas Brass, h…
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Lessons in Leadership from the Great Books
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Today my guest is Jesan Sorrells, a management consultant and the dynamic CEO of Leadership Toolbox, the host of the “Leadership Lessons From The Great Books” Podcast, author of 12 Rules for Leaders: The Foundation of Intentional Leadership, and a trusted mentor and adviser to numerous startups. With over a decade of hands-on experience, Jesan has …
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Sales Strategy Secrets with Thomas Helfrich
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Thomas Helfrich is a professional sales trainer, B2B marketer, and lead generation expert. He is also the Chief Executive Officer of InstantlyRelevant.com and the author of Never Been Promoted. On this episode, we talk about how to be relevant and capture the attention and interest of your target prospects. Learn more: https://www.instantlyrelevant…
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On this week's show is a man with many skills - from writing drills to building decks; Mark Davison can do it all. He is a gentle giant whose passion continues to nurture all those who get the privilege of working with him. In our conversation, Mark talks about his experience as a private instructor and band director. He shares his experiences with…
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There is a great quote that states, “Older siblings: the only people who will pick on you for their own entertainment and beat up anyone else who tries.” This week’s guest is none other than Chris’s big brother, Tim Gleason. Our discussion explores Tim’s amazing teaching and coaching career, mentors, and great books. Learn more than you want to kno…
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Beyond Artless has gone International! Peter brings Dr. Jacqueline Dawson, Director of Bands at the University of Manitoba, on for our international debut. Of course, Jacquie is respectful, patient, vulnerable, honest, trustworthy, genuine, we-not-me, and all other things Canadian…which is exactly what Peter, Phil, and Chris are not. Despite the be…
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Tips from a Tech PR Pro with Scott Rosenblum
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Scott Rosenblum is the President and founder of LEVEL PR, a tech-focused PR agency. His course, “PR Toolkit for Tech Startups,” can be found here: https://courses.levelpr.co/ Zee Learning Podcast listeners will get 25% off whenever they register for any of Scott’s courses by using the coupon code, zev25. This discount code is exclusively offered to…
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Turning The Tables with Claire, Mariah, & Maddie
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This week we turn the tables on the hosts and they become the guests! Phil, Chris, and Peter will have to answer questions from Dr. Haberman’s students and…daughter! A role reversal that brings out the amazing talent and insight from Chris and Phil, and leaves a bit to be desired from Peter. Learn about the amazing Dr. Ostrander and his ability to …
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This week’s guest aligns perfectly with the conclusion of the 77th Midwest Clinic held in Chicago. Our guest is the amazing educator, tubist, father, leader, human, friend, and fish catcher, Dr. Paul Budde. His Midwest presentation with co-presenter Erin Holmes (Season 1, Episode 10), called “Why Teach, Why Now”, inspires music educators to reconne…
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Today we have the honor of learning from the renowned Dr. Ward Miller, a musical luminary whose influence reaches far beyond the podium. He shares insights into the profound impact of his mentor, Myron Welch, on his music journey. Commuters will gain valuable perspectives on the importance of mentorship and why Dr. Miller has never been to Idaho! T…
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In an effort to improve the quality of this podcast we have not one but two amazing guests with us this week. Adam and Kate Hardt are an amazing music education couple. Our conversation with them covers their busy lives as parents and music educators, mentors Fred Sturm and Mallory Thompson, jazz improvisation tips, reflections of amazing students,…
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This week’s guest is like a rare gem; she is multifaceted and priceless! Alex Shapiro is an amazing composer, photographer, speaker, author, activist, naturalist, former python breeder, and member of the herpetological society. (Read that last part again.) This is the only music podcast that contains a “Snake Q & A Session.” Not only will you learn…
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Finally. A guest that delivers some honest and thoughtful feedback about improving the podcast. One would think that our hosts would be able to operate a stopwatch, but apparently not. This operates under the assumption that our hosts are interested in making improvements. Or intelligent enough to make improvements to the podcast. What exactly does…
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Finally, an episode that has it all. Phil finally has some articulate questions, but is ridiculed anyways. Three Disney All-American College Band alumni at once. Mystery corn sprouting from the fields of Lake Geneva. The wife/husband team of Beth and Steve Peterson have educated countless band students at both the University of Illinois and Ithaca …
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In today's episode, we chat with Wisconsin legend Glenn Hayes. Glenn is in his 37th year as Director of Bands at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater. We had the opportunity to learn more about his start in music, current educational changes, influential mentors, his amazing family, what he does to unwind, and an unbelievable story regarding COVI…
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