‘Mint & Burn’ offers an academic analysis of the decentralised digital economy, including blockchain and other decentralised technologies. Hosted by Kelsie Nabben and the RMIT University Blockchain Innovation Hub, we bring you interesting guests, publications, and experts to test frontier ideas in these critical and emerging industries. This podcast is for academics, industry, policymakers, and anyone interested in a deeper understanding of the digital age.
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Mint & Burn Episode 48: The Validator Commons (live) w. Ellie Rennie, Eric Alston, and Kelsie Nabben
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In this episode, we discuss ‘The Validator Commons’, an initiative that was started via Metagov.org to create a space for blockchain validators to coordinate and cooperate in their role as operators and governors of public blockchains. This exciting conversation covers some of the dynamics, challenges, and controversies of blockchain validators - a…
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Mint & Burn Episode 47: Digital Ethnography in Blockchain & Governance Reading Group 3. 'Speculative Fiction' w. Ellie Rennie, Kola Heyward-Rotimi, hosted by Kelsie Nabben, Tara Merk, & Cent Hosten
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In this special episode as the third installment in the ‘Digital Ethnography in Blockchain & Governance Reading Group, we’re joined by ethnographer Ellie Rennie and speculative fiction scholar Kola Heyward-Rotimi to discuss a co-authored piece that took place at ‘Decentralized Web Camp’ in 2022. We discuss speculative fiction as a method, “LARPing”…
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Mint & Burn Episode 46: Dane Lund, AllianceDAO & Dr Aaron Lane on DAOs and the Law
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In this episode, we’re joined by Dane Lund from AllianceDAO and resident legal scholar Dr. Aaron Lane to talk about DAO labour and the legal risks of participating in DAOs, DAO policy developments, and the future possibilities of DAOs. Please note that none of this episode is intended as legal advice.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 45: Digital Ethnography in Blockchain & Governance Reading Group 2 w. Kelsie Nabben, Tara Merk, Cent Hosten & Quinn DuPont
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We’re back, with the ‘Digital Ethnography in Blockchain Reading Group’, session 2. Kelsie, Tara & CEnt are joined by Quinn DuPont, author of a number of quintessential blockchain studies, including “Experiments in algorithmic governance: A history and ethnography of “The DAO”, a failed decentralised autonomous organization”. Learn about ethnographi…
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Mint & Burn Episode 44: The New Economy w. Thomas Hardjono (MIT), Jason Potts, & Kelsie Nabben
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In this wide-ranging and engaging episode we are joined by computer scientists Dr Thomas Hardjono from MIT Connection Science lab . We discuss Web3.0, data, cooperative data governance models, identity, and trust from an interdisciplinary perspective. “At the end of the day it’s about human beings, it's about societies, it's about communities. It's…
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Mint & Burn Episode 43: Token Engineering w. Angela Kreitenweis & Dr Imon Palit
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In this episode, we’re joined by Angela Kreitenweis, Founder Token Engineering Academy and Dr Imon Palit to discuss token engineering as an interdisciplinary method and the launch of the token engineering academy. Don’t miss the launch of the Token Engineering Academy at Tokenengineering.org
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Mint & Burn Episode 42: Digital Ethnography in Blockchain & Governance Reading Group 1 w. Tara Merk, Cent Hosten, & Wassim Alsindi
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In this special episode, we share the recording from the kick off of the ‘Digital Ethnography in Blockchain & Governance’ Reading group, co-organised by Kelsie Nabben, RMIT University, Tara Merk, BlockchainGov, & Cent Hosten from Metagov. We’re joined by guest Wassim Alsindi, who is a seasoned researcher, designer, and critical thinker - involved i…
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Mint & Burn Episode 41: Token Mapping, Tax & Law Update w. Dr Elizabeth Morton, Dr Aaron Lane, & Danny Talwar
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In this episode, we continue to endeavour to max tax fun with an update on the Australian Federal Government's announced 'token mapping' exercise and updates on the Board of Taxation. We also focus overseas on legal insights into the Tornado Cash situation. Our RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub experts are joined by Danny Talwar from the crypto tax pl…
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Mint & Burn Episode 40: A Revisionist History of Blockchain w. Associate Prof. Chris Berg from RMIT University Blockchain Innovation Hub
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What does it mean that Bitcoin was able to achieve "a reliable system out of unreliable parts"? In this episode, we take a historical look at the development of permissionless blockchain technologies, including the Byzantine Fault Tolerant problem and the application of economic market theory to computational science. We also touch on recent events…
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Mint & Burn Episode 39: EOFY crypto tax w. Dr Elizabeth Morton from RMIT, Lisa Greig from Perigee Advisors & James Carey from Prime Partners
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In this episode, we explore some essential end of financial year crypto considerations, including airdrops, DAO tokens, and the shifting tax landscape. Please note, this is not formal tax advice.
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Mint & Burn Episode 38: Engineering Methods in Web3 & Sub-DAOs of DAOs w. Danilo Lessa Bernardineli from BlockScience & Kelsie Nabben
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In this dynamic episode, we discuss engineering methods in Web3, algorithmic systems, what are DAOs, the governance of algorithmic processes, and applied examples of governing machine learning processes in a sub-DAO of GitcoinDAO with engineering expert Danilo Lessa Bernardineli from BlockScience.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 37: Blockchain & Environmental Sustainability w. Zane Griffin Talley Cooper and Kelsie Nabben
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In this episode, we're joined by PhD graduate Zane Griffin Talley Cooper to discuss his research on BIT, COIN, RARE EARTH, blockchain and the environment, and what sustainability means in Web3.0. A not to miss episode!By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 36: Blockchain Governance and Game Theory with Dr Peyman Khezr and Associate Professor Chris Berg
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In this episode, we're joined by RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub economist Dr Peyman Khezr to discuss cryptoeconomics and game theory. We explore the utility of blockchains, how to think about how to choose governance mechanisms in blockchain systems, and some specific mechanisms, including quadratic voting, time, and bond voting. By analyzing relat…
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Mint & Burn Episode 35: The Valuation of Virtual Land and the Metaverse with Mitchell Goldberg, Prof. Jason Potts and Kelsie Nabben
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In this episode, we explore some of the economic principles of the Metaverse in a discussion of how people are valuing land in virtual worlds, such as Decentraland. Based on a working paper, we ask what drives prices of virtual land and how this is linked to business applications, and explore what this might mean for virtual spaces and their busine…
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Mint & Burn Episode 34: Intellectual Property Rights in Crypto Cyberspace with Prof. Sinclair Davidson, Prof. Jason Potts, and Kelsie Nabben
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In this episode, we discuss intellectual property, IP rights, and what this means in the context of blockchain and crypto states. We talk about whether property rights are granted by nation-states or by community consensus. We also discuss the possibilities of composability and the limitations of property rights in Web3.0.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 33: Surveying a City - methods and futures in the Digital CBD project with Annette Markham & Alexia Maddox
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In this episode, we're joined by Professor Annette Markham and Dr Alexia Maddox to discuss the "Digital CBD" project. We explore quantitative and qualitative ethnographic research methods in an exploration of what it means to gather data and imagine the future of a city post-COVID. A link to the Digital CBD Survey is in the show notes!…
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Mint & Burn Episode 32: DAO tooling & DeFi w. Dr Darcy Allen and Tulley Kearney
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In this episode, we're joined by RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub team members Dr Darcy Allen and Tulley Kearney to discuss DAO tooling and some of the latest trends in Decentralised Finance (DeFi). Darcy outlines his approach to "DAO toolkits" as composable enablers of innovation economies, the political possibilities of "cryptodemocracy", and ecosy…
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Mint & Burn Episode 31: Blockchain meets Quantum Computing w. Dr Peter Rohde, Jason Potts, Sinclair Davidson & Darcy Allen
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Quantum computing is coming. What does this mean for blockchain security? In this fascinating and dynamic episode, we explore what is quantum computing, is it a threat to blockchain, and what are the timelines. We also explore some potential antidotes, including post-quantum cryptography and "quantum crypto-economics".…
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Mint & Burn Episode 30: Research Frontiers for 2022 (law & tax) w. Aaron Lane, Elizabeth Morton & Marta Poblet
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In this "part 2" on some of the research areas that RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub team members are focused on in 2022, we speak with Dr Aaron Lane, Dr Elizabeth Morton and Associate Professor Marta Poblet on DAO law in Australia, moving beyond CGT to a tax framework for the digital economy, and DAOs as "autonomous" organisations. Hosted by Kelsie …
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Mint & Burn Episode 29: Research Frontiers for 2022 with Jason Potts & Chris Berg (pt.1)
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In this episode, we talk about some of the research areas that RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub team members are focused on in 2022. Professor Jason Potts and Professor Chris Berg discuss DAOs as economic phenomena of enquiry, and the competitive dynamics of layer 1 blockchains. Hosted by Kelsie Nabben.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 28: 'Algorithms as Policy' with Dr Michael Zargham and Prof. Ellie Rennie.
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In this insightful and far reaching conversation, we speak with Dr Micharl Zargham, Founder and Lead Researcher at Blockscience, alongside Professor Ellie Rennie from RMIT University on "Algorithms as Policy". We discuss policy making as a governance process in algorithmic systems. This episode includes insights on system design and ethnographic ob…
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Mint & Burn Episode 27: 'Australia as a Digital Asset Hub' with Senator Andrew Bragg, Dr Aaron Lane, & Dr Elizabeth Morton
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In this episode, we get insightful first hand perspectives on the Australian Parliamentary Enquiry into Blockchain and Digital Assets from Senator Andrew Bragg, alongside RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub team members that contributed to the open call for submissions. We cover the high level recommendations, the possible tax reform implications, and w…
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Mint & Burn Episode 26: 'Blockchains as Clubs' with Professor Alain Marciano, Prof. Sinclair Davidson, & D. Prof. Jason Potts
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In this episode, we explore the economic theory of clubs and club goods and apply it to blockchains as a type of knowledge club. We're joined by renowned Professor Alain Marciano to take a deep dive into this area of theory, as well as some of the RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub to apply this theory to blockchain and DAOs.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 25: 'The Decentralization Formula' with Dr Thibault Schrepel, Dr Aaron Lane & D. Prof. Jason Potts
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In this episode, we catch up with legal scholar Dr Thibault Schrepel to discuss his new book, "Blockchain + Antitrust". We dive in to competition law and policy, explore why blockchain and antitrust law have the same agenda for decentralization, and why they are ultimately complimentary.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 24: 'Building Opensource Blockchain Economies' with Prof. Sinclair Davidson, D. Prof. Jason Potts, Prof. Chris Berg, & Kelsie Nabben
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This episode is on ""Building Opensource Blockchain Economies" with Professor Sinclair Davidson, Distinguished Professor Jason Potts, and Professor Chris Berg from the RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub (ranked the second best University for blockchain in the world by CoinDesk!). We discuss opensource business models and the evolution from industrial t…
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Mint & Burn Episode 23: 'Blockchain Community Building as a Sport' with Professor Heath McDonald, Prof. Chis Berg, Prof. Jason Potts, and Kelsie Nabben
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In this episode, we're joined by Professor Heath McDonald from RMIT University to understand how insights from the research field of sports marketing apply to blockchain community building. We discuss why members are better than fans, why belonging matters, how to grow your community by engaging lite users, why creating opportunities for people to …
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Mint & Burn Episode 22: 'Ethereum's Political Philosophy Explained' with Dr Paul Dylan-Ennis
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In this episode, Dr. Paul Dylan-Ennis from University College Dublin draws on his first-hand cryptocurrency community experience and philosophy background to outline Ethereum's political philosophy. Why has it not been well articulated before now? We explore a number of his recent publications, including work on politics, DAOs, and NFTs.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 21: 'Blockchain and the Evolution of Money' with Dr Michael Peneder, Prof. Jason Potts, & Dr Trent MacDonald
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In this episode, we speak with Dr Michael Peneder from the Austrian Institute of Economic Research, alongside Prof Jason Potts and Dr Trent MacDonald, on "Blockchain and the evolution of money". We cover evolutionary economics, Schumpeter's theory of innovation, and the bridge to the cryptocurrency innovation ecosystem. See more at rmitblockchain.i…
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Mint & Burn Episode 20: 'Evolutionary economics & blockchain' with A. Prof. William Luther, Prof. Jason Potts, Prof. Sinclair Davidson, & Prof. Chris Berg
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In this episode, we speak with William Luther, early academic researcher into the economics of cryptocurrency on what schools of economic thought influence cryptocurrencies and how these are evolving. We refer to key concepts of currency acceptance, stable coins, CBDCs, and the future. William Luther is an Associate Professor of economics at Florid…
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Mint & Burn Episode 19: 'Grants, Foundations, & Treasury Management' with Prof. Jason Potts, Prof. Sinclair Davidson, & Dr Darcy Allen
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A special episode on topical research by the RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub team on "Governing blockchain treasuries", A better design for DeFi grant programs", and "Deciding how to spend your treasury". Join us for this discussion of economic theory on funding public goods and grants applied to blockchain communities. For more on these topics, mak…
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Mint & Burn Episode 18: 'Blockchains & Dark Markets' with Dr Alexia Maddox
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In this episode, we explore the connection between "dark markets" and blockchains with Alexia Maddox. Alexia is a "netnographer" of frontier, digital communities. Her work on dark markets not only leads to fascinating research findings, but also pioneering qualitative research methods for engaging with online communities. We discuss her experience …
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Mint & Burn Episode 17: 'Crypto-politics - an update' with Dr Jaya Klara Brekke & Dr Darcy Allen
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In this episode, we speak with political economist and geographer Dr. Jaya Klara Brekke for "an update" on crypto-politics. We discuss decentralization, governance, consensus and dissensus, and potential futures of zero-knowledge proofs and AI. Don't miss this.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 16: 'Building Decentralised NFTs - Deep Dive' with Bokky Poobah, Prof. Jason Potts, Dr Lizzie Morton, & Dr Aaron Lane
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We are capturing and recording digital data for posterity. "Some of the most important information will probably end up being tied to the Ethereum blockchain, including NFTs". How do we make this data last? We take a deep dive with software programmer and Aussie Ethereum community champion Bokky Poobah on what comprises an NFT and how this bundle o…
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Mint & Burn Episode 15: 'Developments in DAOs' with Prof. Alex Sims & Dr Aaron Lane
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In this episode on "Unpacking Recent Developments in DAOs", we are joined by Professor Alex Sims from The University of Auckland in New Zealand and Dr Aaron Lane from RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub. We cover DAO legislation in Wyoming and other jurisdictions, corporate structures, corporate governance, and open challenges to DAOs (noting this shoul…
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Mint & Burn Episode 14: 'Purpose Driven Tokens & DAOs' with Shermin Voshmgir & Prof. Sinclair Davidson
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In this episode, we're joined by Shermin Voshmgir from Token Kitchen, to discuss cryptoeconomic foundations, token design patterns, and the institutional behaviour of "Decentralised Autonomous Organisations". Learn why "initial conditions count" in this insightful conversationBy RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 13: 'Decentralised Autonomous Organisations and the Law' with Prof. Aaron Wright & Dr. Aaron Lane
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In this insightful episode, we engage with Professor Aaron Wright on all things "Decentralised Autonomous Organisations" (DAOs) and the law. Aaron shares on the meaning of DAOs, the evolution of DAOs in the blockchain community (including NFT DAOs), regulatory updates in the State of Wyoming, and the future. Do not miss this episode!…
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Mint & Burn Episode 12: 'The Governance of Digital Spaces' with Prof. Nathan Schneider & Prof. Ellie Rennie
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In this thoughtful conversation between media scholars, we discuss cultural approaches to the governance of digital spaces, highlight observations about how the blockchain space relates to other examples of community, point to alternative sources of relevant literature for approaching this, and highlight the subjectivity of 'decentralisation' and e…
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Mint & Burn Episode 11: 'The Politics of Digital Encryption' with Dr Linda Monsees & As. Prof. Chris Berg
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In this dynamic episode, we discuss the hugely relevant social sciences topic of 'the politics of digital encryption'. Digital encryption is a security technology that is fundamental to the functioning of public blockchains. We speak with Dr Linda Monsees on history, politics, stakeholders, winners, & losers, based on her book "Cryptopolitics"…
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Mint & Burn Episode 10: 'DeFi & Data Markets' with Oasis Labs Luca Cosentino, Dist. Professor Jason Potts, & As. Prof. Chris Berg
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In this episode, we discuss decentralised finance and the future of data markets with Luca Cosentino, early hire at Oasis Labs project, from Berkeley University. We talk about data tokens, the user control web, privacy, and regulation.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 9: 'The Law & Taxation of NFTs' with Prof. Marta Poblet, Dr Aaron Lane, & Dr Lizzie Morton
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In this NFTs special episode, members of the RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub explore the legal and taxation treatment of these digital assets, including classification, questions, and issues. Are they property? Are they capital gains tax events? Note: this is not to be regarded as financial or legal advice.…
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Mint & Burn Episode 8: 'NFTs as New Markets' with Prof. Jason Potts, Prof. Ellie Rennie, A. Prof. Chris Berg & Prof. Sinclair Davidson
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"Non-fungible tokens" or "NFTs" have exploded as a new market in terms of adoption and mainstream awareness in recent weeks. After doing numerous radio and TV interviews, members of the RMIT team comes together to explore economic and cultural perspectives on how to explain this trend in adoption, opportunities, potential risks, and possibilities i…
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Mint & Burn Episode 7: 'Constitutions, Blockchains, & Governance' with Dr Eric Alston & Dr Darcy Allen
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In this fantastic conversation, Eric describes the practice of constitutional design and how blockchain-based systems can operate as constitutions. We cover constitutional amendments in this context, entry and exit costs, 'permissionless' blockchains, and some of Ostrom's approach to governing the commons for an approachable, insightful discussion …
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Mint & Burn Episode 6: 'Digital Identity & Blockchain' with Kaliya Young, Prof. Jason Potts, & Prof. Ellie Rennie
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In this episode, we speak with "identity woman" Kaliya Young, who has been working on decentralised identifiers for over 15 years, a more expressive data type for self-certification on the web.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 5: 'Ethereum & Financial Alchemy' with Dan Robinson & Dr Vijay Mohan
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Dan is a researcher at Paradigm, a lawyer, and a software developer. In this episode, we partner him up with economist Vijay to discuss the state of Ethereum 'as a dark forest', Uniswap's financial alchemy, and coming developments in DeFi; including decentralised exchanges (DEXs) and automatic market makers (AMMs).…
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Mint & Burn Episode 4: 'Designing Agoric Markets' with Mark Miller, Bill Tulloh, Prof. Jason Potts, & Prof. Sinclair Davidson
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This episode takes a deep dive into the "Agoric papers" of the 1980s, the computational and market mechanisms behind Agoric markets, cryptoeconomic design, and blockchain security with incredible insights from early cypherpunk and computer programmer Mark Miller, and economist Bill Tulloh.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 3: 'Blockchain Governance & Ethics' with Prof. Kevin Werbach & Dr Chris Berg
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Well known author and legal scholar Kevin Werbach discusses 'Blockchain Governance & Ethics' with us, including blockchain and the law, government approaches to blockchain, and the geo-politics of blockchains.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 2: 'Blockchain Code as Antitrust Law' with Dr Thibault Schrepel and Dr Aaron Lane
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Episode 2 covers 'blockchain code as antitrust law', including how the law can supplement competition to enhance competition in technology and other markets for a healthy society.By RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub
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Mint & Burn Episode 1: 'Intro to Cryptoeconomics' with Professor Jason Potts and Professor Sinclair Davidson
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This episode introduces the concepts of 'cryptoeconomics' and 'the digital economy' with Professor Jason Potts and Professor Sinclair Davidson from RMIT University in Melbourne, hosted by Kelsie Nabben. 'Mint & Burn' offers an academic analysis of the decentralised digital economy, including blockchain and other decentralised technologies. We inter…
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