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๐ฐ๐ช yield(RC2, 1st GopherCon in Africa, LLMs, Dreams of code, and more)
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News this week: ๐ rc2 is out Google Groups notice The actual Merge List ๐ฐ๐ช GopherCon Africa Oct 18-19 Does Go benefit more from copilot than other languages? Range-over-func demystified Zach Musgrave's post from dolthub; Go range iterators demystified John's take on it; First impressions of Go 1.23's range-over-func feature โก๏ธ Lightning round "Thisโฆ
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โฒ๏ธ โก๏ธ That feeling when your timer returns the wrong time & new ๐ฉ๏ธ lightning round!
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Conferences & CFPs ๐ฎ๐ฑ GopherCon Israel, Sept 9 @ Tel Aviv CFP open until Jul 15 ๐ฆ๐บ GopherCon AU, No CFP open until Sept 15 ๐ฎ๐ณ GopherCon India, Dec 1 @ Jaipur ๐ฉ๐ช Fyne Conf, Sept 20 @ Berlin CFP open until Aug 16 ๐ธ๐ฌ GopherCon Singapore, October TBD CFP open until Aug 19 Go 1.23 draft release notes โฒ๏ธ Blog: Resetting timers in Go by Anton Zhiyanov ๐ฉ๏ธ โฆ
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The Go release that was completely Expected, conferences, and cookies! ๐ช๐ช๐ช
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Go 1.22.5 & 1.21.12 released Conferences ๐ฎ๐ฑ GopherCon Israel, Sept 9 @ Tel Aviv CFP open until Jul 15 ๐ฆ๐บ GopherCon AU, No CFP open until Sept 15 ๐ฎ๐ณ GopherCon India, Dec 1 @ Jaipur New proposal: include abandoned packages in list of deprecations Blog post: gRPC: The Good Parts by Kevin McDonald ๐ช New package: github.com/syntaqx/cookie Found on Reddiโฆ
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๐น As simple as Do, Re, Mi, Go 1.23 (rc1), baby, you and me!
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Visit our homepage - cupogo.dev - for links to our Patreon, Store, past episodes, and more. ๐ข Releases 1.23 RC1 released 1.22.5 & 1.21.12 pre-release announcement Proposals 1๏ธโฃ Accepted: cmd/gofmt: change -d to exit 1 if diffs exist ๐ Accepted: list deprecations and newer available dep versions ๐ชข Accepted: spec: allow range-over-func to omit iteratโฆ
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Thanks, Erik Dubbelboer, John Basila, Suchith, and Hiji, for co-hosting the episode! Which GUI library to choose? Caesar, a new Go Web Framework "How to prove I am good at Go apart from having work experience?" "Where should I learn Go?" Learn Go with TestsBy Jonathan Hall & Shay Nehmad
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๐ฎ Gaby, help me learn 5 tips about Game Development in Go and goreleaser them
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Visit our homepage - cupogo.dev - for links to our Patreon, Swag Store, and more. Next week, on June 19th, we're doing a physical meetup! Join #amsterdam on the Gopher Slack to join up. ๐ฉ๐ช GopherCon Europe next week, June 17-20 Canโt afford to attend online? Fill in this form: https://forms.gle/gcDGxnRJvjXbVPuZ6 ๐ฒ math/rand: make global seed a no-oโฆ
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โI don't have money, but I do have a very particular set of ~skills~ connectorsโ โ Ashley Jeffs
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Go 1.22.4 & 1.21.11 released Proposals New: safer file open functions github.com/google/safeopen alternative openat man page New: allow range-over-func to omit iteration variables Blog: Flaky Tests Overhaul at Uber Blog: Redpanda acquires Benthos to expand its end-to-end streaming data platform Interview with Ashley Jeffs Twitter LinkedIn GitHub Anโฆ
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Go, meet hugging face ๐ค, interview with Riccardo Pinosio
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Go 1.22.4 & 1.21.11 coming Tuesday, June 4 Community events Golang Atlanta meetup, June 13 Cup o' Go Meetup in Amsterdam, June 19 Golang Tilburg meetup, June 20 Proposal accepted and implemented: new iterator functions in maps package coming in 1.23 Reddit: What software shouldn't you write in Go? Blog: Blazingly Fast Shadow Stacks for Go by Felix โฆ
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๐ธ๏ธ With great power comes great responsibility, or why not to use the linkname directive ๐
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Proposals Accepted: require Linux 3.17 kernel for Go 1.24 Previous discussion: Episode 61 Accepted: add encoding.AppendText and encoding.AppendBinary Previous discussion: Episode 62 Accepted: add HostLayout directive type ๐ช Accepted: Normalize line endings in example output comparisons Conference updates ๐ฎ๐ฑ GopherCon Isreael CFP open until June 30 โฆ
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This just in! When is a constructor that returns an interface appropriate? ๐ค
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Upcoming conferences ๐ฏ๐ต June 8: Go Conference 2024 @ Tokyo, Japan ๐ฉ๐ช June 17-20: GopherCon EU @ Berlin, Germany ๐ณ๐ฑ June 19-21: DevOps Days @ Amsterdam, Netherlands ๐ท๐บ June 24-25: Golang Conf 2024 @ St. Petersburg, Russia Proposals ๐ Accepted: go telemetry subcommand Previous discussion on Episode 62 โ Declined: Notify of new major dependency versioโฆ
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A quick tour of some proposals, and a long chat about OpenAPI with Jamie Tanna
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Go 1.22.3 & 1.22.10 released Proposals Accepted: add binary.Append function Likely accept: new `go telemetry` subcommand Likely decline: Notify about new major versions of dependencies Packt book bundle Interview with Jamie Tanna Blog: Creating a more sustainable model for `oapi-codegen` in the future Blog: oapi-codegen is moving to its own org on โฆ
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๐คน Pick any number, but not like that! Bartek Nowotarski talks Go vulnerability research
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Consider supporting the show by joining our Patreon! ๐ Releases Go 1.22.3 & 1.21.10 coming Tuesday ๐ช Conferences GopherCon Brazil, May 9 & 10 GopherDay Taiwan, May 25 ๐คน Secure Randomness Blog: Evolving the Go Standard Library with math/rand/v2 Blog: Secure Randomness in Go 1.22 by Russ Cox new proposal: Require Linux kernel 3.17 for Go 1.24 ๐งโ๐ฌ Intโฆ
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๐ช Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar? Plus Paul Jolly talks about CUE
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Proposals ๐ช Accepted: support partitioned cookies Article: Prepare for thrid-party cookie restrictions New: add reflect.AssertTo Declined: builtin is[T any](any) bool Meetups & Conferences ๐จ๐ฟ Prague Go Meetup, April 23 ๐ณ๐ฑ Rotterdam Go Meetup, April 23 ๐ Conf42 Golang, April 25, Online ๐ฌ๐ง GopherCon UK CFP closes May 17 ๐ฎ๐น GoLab CFP closes May 6 Blogโฆ
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All about community - Dev Survey, Meetup Roundup, and talking with Bill Kennedy
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For more info, transcripts, and all the links, visit https://cupogo.dev. ๐ณ๏ธ 2024 Go Developer Survey Hugot, Huggingface pipelines for Go Why is NPS bad? A blogpost by Jonathan ๐ Meetups ๐บ๐ธ Denver ๐บ๐ธ Atlanta ๐ณ๐ฑ Amsterdam ๐ฎ๐ฑ Israel ๐ง An interview with Bill Kennedy Twitter https://twitter.com/goinggodotnet LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-โฆ
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๐ Avoid HTTP/2 floods, ๐ค don't log your secrets, and ๐ฃ๏ธ upcoming conferences
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Go 1.22.2 & 1.21.9 released Blog: HTTP/2 CONTINUATION Flood by Bartek Nowotarski Blog: HTTP/2 CONTINUATION Flood: Technical Details by Bartek Nowotarski ๐ฃ๏ธ Conferences & CFPs Official Go "Wiki" conferences list ๐ด Go West, October TBD @ Lehi, Utah CFP ๐ Conf42 Golang, April 24 @ Online ๐ง๐ท GopherCon Brazil, May 9-10 @ Florianรณpolis, SC Around the comโฆ
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๐ฒ Bikeshedding about bikeshedding, and Go Community Roundup
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Proposals (re)accepted: add slices.Repeat function accepted: report use of too-new standard library symbols with go vet From around the community Blog: Context-induced performance bottleneck in Go by Gabriel Augendre New community Q&A site: godev.com, powerd by Apache Answer Blog: Go Enums Still Suck by Steven McCutcheon On Redditโฆ
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Links: my little whisper.cpp bug fix why the logits were calculated inconsistently wav2vec2 on arxiv and huggingface the openai whisper asr model announcement beam search patience top notch guide to CTC the bitter lesson (and in meme form) And one erratum: I referred in the show to LLMs as encoder-decoder models. Most modern LLMs are decoder-only.โฆ
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๐ซ Computer says "No" ๐ง Plus one shell to rule them all with xiaq
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๐ฎ๐น GoLab 2024 coming up Nov 11-13 in Florence Itally CFP open through May 1 Proposals ๐ซ Declined: time.Parse: letter-based formats ๐ซ Declined: support int(bool) conversions ๐จ๏ธ Active: add builtin function is[T any](any) bool ๐ซ Declined: range over nil function should panic Work with Jonathan Hall Interview with xiaq ๐ง Elvish web site zsh user manuaโฆ
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What makes a first-class Go port? Plus ๐ธ OpenAPI tools fit for a princess, with quobix
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๐ฌ๐ง Manchester Go Meetup, April 3 Proposals ๐ Declined: time: add "1136214245" as layout string for unix timestamp ๐ช Active: promote windows/arm64 to first class port Go Blog: More powerful Go execution traces Design document: Execution tracer overhaul Neovim plugin for gopls documentation links On Reddit ๐ธ Interview with quobix Personal site Princeโฆ
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๐ก๏ธ Focus on security & crypto w/ Filippo Valsorda
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๐ก๏ธ Security releases. Upgrade now! Go 1.22.1 & 1.21.8 google.golang.org/protobuf v1.33.0 ๐ญ Happy International Women's Day! Upcoming meetups & events ๐ฌ๐ง London Gophers, March 20 ๐ฎ๐ฑ Go Israel, March 12 ๐ฌ๐ง GopherCon UK Conference, August 14-16 CFP is open! Accepted proposals: Migrate x/crypto packages into the standard library Around the community Goโฆ
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Gleefully announcing new releases and projects from around the ๐ GopherVerse & GopherJS interview with Grant Nelson
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๐ก๏ธ Security updates coming on Tuesday Go 1.22.1 & 1.21.8 google.golang.org/protobuf and github.com/google/protobuf ๐ง Open proposal: use SwissTable to improve hash map performance Related releases GopherJS 1.19 beta1 with Go 1.19 support (w/o generics) TinyGo 0.31.0 with Go 1.22 support Around the community Upcoming Go Isreal Meetup, March 12 @ Orcaโฆ
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Meet the hosts Meet Shay: ๐ฎ๐ฑ Go Israel Meetup, March 12 @ Orca Meet Jonathan: ๐ณ๐ฑ Go Amsterdam Meetup, Feb 27 @ Creative Fabrica Proposals Declined: ๐ค archive/zip: support for encrypted archives Accepted: ๐ iter: new package for iterators Accepted: ๐บ๏ธ maps: add iterator-related functions Likely accept: ๐ slices: add iterator-related functions Likelyโฆ
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slices.Pete and slices.Repeat sat on a fence, and interview with Daniel Martรญ
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Proposals: new: add slices.Repeat function accepted: deprecate runtime.GOROOT From the Go blog: Routing Enhancements for Go 1.22 How I write HTTP services in Go after 13 years by Mat Ryer Weaveworks shutting down On Reddit: Go 1.22 yielding a 18% regression in single-threading performance On YouTube: Why I Use Golang in 2024 by ThePrimeTime Interviโฆ
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In which I ramble about randomness and random algorithms. Now with theme music! Paper Cuts planned reading: Habitability and Piecemeal Growth, in Patterns of Software (just pages 7โ16 of the book, which is pages 25-32 of the PDF) Selected links: * SIEVE cache replacement algorithm * Power of two random choices * Marc Brooker's blog * Random forestsโฆ
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๐ Most of what you need to know about Go 1.22
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New releases โฌ Go 1.21.7 and 1.20.14 released ๐งน golangci-lint 1.56.1 released, including support for `--show-stats` and John's bugfix Conferences and Meetups ๐ฎ๐ฑ Go Israel March 2024 hosted by Orca Security Go 1.22 Feature Rundown Official announcement, release notes, and download link Cool interactive release notes by Anton Zhiyanov The Loopvar bugโฆ
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Shay Nehmad on how writing is the key to becoming a better engineer, how to do it, and more. Links: * Cup O' Go podcast * Code Complete book * Shay's blog * Obsidian and LogseqBy Josh Bleecher Snyder
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๐งโ๐ For our 1st anniversary, we debate about (white)space in Muxers for a looooong time
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Happy 1st anniversary to Cup o' Go! ๐ฅณ Proposals go build -json accepted allow append(nil, arg) declined (playground link), because of existing alternative go vet: warn about recover in non-deferred function declined, because of lack of data allow multiple spaces between method and path in mux: new proposal Releases gofumpt 0.6.0 go-elasticsearch v8โฆ
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Preview for the Cup o' Go podcast - keep up to date with the Go (golang) community in 15 minutes per week, with Jonathan Hall and Shay Nehmad!By Jonathan Hall & Shay Nehmad
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A bunch ๐ of grape things are happening
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This show is supported by you! Consider joining as a Patreon member to support the show. Go 1.22RC2 released Take the new Go developer survey Learning Go, 2nd edition now available for e-purchase, print coming soon Listen to our interview with the author in Episode 44 GopherCon talk by Russ Cox: Go Changes Highlighting tools goimportcycle typex Redโฆ
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This was a fun and decidedly humbling conversation with Ben Johnson about SQLite, databases, Litestream, and LiteFS. Links: Ben on GitHub Litestream LiteFSBy Josh Bleecher Snyder
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This show is supported by you! Consider joining as a Patreon member to support the show. Thanks Yarden for coming on the show! Proposals Declined: ASCII output in Go tools, PowerShell investigation underway Likely Accept: `-json` flag for go build The new Range syntax Go Wiki: Rangefunc Experiment Range over int, over func proposal Go 1.22 range fuโฆ
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๐ค I think this IS a big deal & a whole bunch ๐ of community projects
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You can now sponsor the show directly, via Patreon! Go 1.21.6 & 1.20.13 released Conferences GoFunc 2024, March 14-15 online, in Russian FOSDEM, Go Devroom Feb 3-4 in Brussels, Belgium GopherCon EU, Athens, Feb 6-8 in Athens, Greece Video/transcript of talk by Rob Pike: What We Got Right, What We Got Wrong Around the community GitHub's move to geneโฆ
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๐ A new year, and a ๐ new pure-go SQLite library, with Ross Light
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Go 1.22RC1 is out Draft release notes golang.org/x/crypto/ssh vulnerability fixed CUE 0.7.0 released CUE web site Announcing River: fast and reliable background jobs for Go Reddit: Why is reinventing the wheel so prominent in Go? Reddit: Is it stupid to have a Go backend and NextJs frontend? SQLite GitHub: Benchmarks for Golang SQLite Drivers zombiโฆ
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No guest for this inaugural episode--just me this round. I cover the basics of rolling hashes and FastCDC, which appears to be the state of the art in content defined chunking. Mentioned in the episode: 8 bit hash bug FastCDC paper Perkeep (once called Camlistore, oops) bup rsync I know the audio is slightly subpar (to say nothing of the content). โฆ
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๐๏ธ Go 1.22RC1 next week; ๐ show analytics year in review, and chat with Jon Bodner, ๐ author of Learning Go, 2nd Ed.
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๐ golang.org/x/crypto/ssh fix pre-announcement, upgrade Monday, December 18 The Go wiki has moved! ๐๏ธ Go 1.22RC1 coming Tuesday, December 19 Proposals ๐ declined: cmd/compile: allow compile-time override of constants ๐ declined: cmd/go: add language localization support to go doc Go blog: Finding unreachable functions with deadcode ๐ณ Docker whale-cโฆ
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Go developer survey says, everybody uses Linux! And discussion on data engineering in Go
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Go 1.21.5 & 1.20.12 released Go Developer 2023H2 survey results are in Proposals accepted: deadcode command is on the way new: Add localization support to go doc new: Allow compile-time override of constants Blog: Optimizing Go string operations with practical examples by Alex Bledea This week's sponsor: Jonathan Hall's Fractional Gopher service Inโฆ
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๐ณ๐ DON'T PANIC! We have a bunch of good blogs for you, plus Sam Lown talks invoicing with Go
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Announcements ๐ Go 1.21.5 & 1.20.12 pre-announcement ๐ง Go 1.22 frozen, this time for real Community โ๏ธ Mattproud's great Reddit answer for Java developers ๐ Another good blog post from Preslav about Python vs Go Rich Hickey's talk about a similar subject ๐ฆช Ralf Steube developed a really cool tool for shell completions ๐คซ Small Atom from Brandur abouโฆ
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The plan: Guests teach me substantive topics in software engineering, and I ask dumb questions. Please send guest suggestions, topic ideas, excitement, and monopoly money to josh@sigpod.devBy Josh Bleecher Snyder
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๐ Shay has had it with these flippin' snakes on this flippin' show! + Canopy interview with Webb Morris
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CFPs ๐ฉ๐ช GopherCon Europe, Berlin. Conference dates June 17-20, 2024 CFP open until Feb 18, 2024 Paged Out CFP open until Nov 25, 2023 Proposals ๐ accepted: cmd/doc: support 'go doc package@version' syntax Releases ๐ cobra v1.8.0 released Hugo v0.120.0 vscode-go v0.40.0 From around the community NilAway: Practical Nil Panic Detection for Go ๐ค Go-speโฆ
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๐ฆ Giving thanks for the Go Rorschach test, and chat with Ultimate Go Tour translator, Lucio Moraes
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Backend Banter! Conferences & CFPs ๐ง๐ช FOSDEM '24, Feb 3&4 @ Brussels Go Devroom CFP through December 1 ๐ฌ๐ท GopherCon EU, Athens, Feb 6-8 CFP Through November 19 ๐ง๐ท Ultimate Go Tour from Arden labs now available in Portuguese The original: A Tour of Go Proposals โ๏ธ Accepted: cmd/go: add support for dealing with flakyโฆ
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Backend Banter! ๐ Happy birthday, Go! Go was announced 14 years ago Watch Russ Cox's intro video Go 1.21.4 & 1.20.11 released with important Windows security fixes Proposals Make deadcode a supported command Memory arenas on hold indefinitely Releases ๐ฆ Gorilla v1.8.1 sqlc v1.23.0 Related: Announcing sqlc-gen-go saโฆ
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โ๏ธ Be unique, just like everyone else & interview with ๐ฆ testcontainers maintainer Manuel de la Peรฑa
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Backend Banter! ๐ก๏ธ Security pre-release announcement Go 1.21.4 and 1.20.11 coming on Tuesday, November 7 Conferences ๐ฎ๐ช GopherCon Ireland yesterday ๐ธ๐ฌ GopherCon Singapore ongoing, yesterday and today ๐ฌ๐ง Fyne Conf today ๐ฆ๐บ GopherCon AU, November 10-11 ๐จ๐ณ GopherChina, November 19 ๐ฎ๐น GoLab, Italy, November 19-21 Propoโฆ
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๐ Home on the Range over ints and funcs & ๐ก๏ธ Go security with Juho Nurminen
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Backend Banter! Proposals Accepted: spec: add range over int, range over func Range over int targeted for Go 1.22 Range over func targeted for Go 1.22 behind the GOEXPERIMENT=rangefunc flag Accepted: go/version: package for handling Go version strings Accepted: io/fs, net/http: new interface for automatic ETag servโฆ
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๐ gopls 0.14 with opt-in telemetry is coming! And Eliav Lavi talks about some challenges with JSON
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! gopls v0.14.0-pre4 released Previous discussion about opt-in telemetry in episode 12 GopherCon Brazil Conference: May 9, 2024 in Florianรณpolis, SC CFP open until December 15, 2023 "Forward compatibility" pains Go modules initialised by go1.21.1 cannot be built using go1.20.8 Using go mod tidy on v1.21+ breakโฆ
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๐ก๏ธ HTTP/2 security fix, ๐ซ no more untyped zero, and hacking ๐งฌ DNA in Go with Timothy Stiles
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! Go 1.21.3 and 1.20.10 released Proposals Retracted: untyped builtin zero Accepted: Move wiki to x/website Related discussion (closed for now): Should the Go project stop importing GitHub PRs? Ongoing discussion: encoding/json/v2 Checkout last week's episode for related interview with Joe Tsai Viper v1.17 relโฆ
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Clothe your returns ๐ and all about encoding/json/v2 with Joe Tsai
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! Go 1.21.2 & 1.20.9 released. Upgrade yesterday! ๐ป Hacktoberfest is happening now How to participate Go projects participating Proposals ๐ Accepted: testing: shuffle seed should be different when -shuffle=on and -count flag is set Previously discussed in episode 32 ๐งฎ Accepted: math/rand/v2: revised API for maโฆ
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๐ค โ Your job is safe from AI and interns, & interview with Ian Smith: a new way to write Go microservices
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! Go 1.21.2 & 1.20.9 to release Oct 5 Conferences ๐บ๐ธ Go West Conference, Lehi, Utah, USA & Online, October 27 ๐ Go-perf Meetup, CFP closes Oct 7, event early November Proposals & Bug Reports โ Active: Add intern package ๐๏ธ Closed: cmd/go: 1.21 regression in test times with -race Blog posts โ๏ธ Forward Compatibiโฆ
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๐ Shuffle your tests, ๐ WHY IS YOUR CAPSLOCK ON? and interview with Wilken Rivera of GDN
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! ๐บ๐ธ GopherCon, San Diego, CA, USA, September 25-28 OpenTofu (formerly OpenTF) officially joins the Linux Foundation Blog post: OpenTF is NOT the fork ๐ Proposal: testing: shuffle seed should be different when -shuffle=on and -count flag is set Blog posts โฟ Go blog: Fixing For Loops in Go 1.22 Go blog: Backwarโฆ
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Conferences galore for Q4, Alien Abduction ๐ธ, and interview with Peter Seebach aka Seebs on Go performance
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! So many conferences! ๐บ๐ธ GopherCon, San Diego, CA, USA, September 25-28 ๐๏ธ Tickets still available ๐จ Hotel discount extended to Monday, September 18 ๐ฎ๐ช GopherCon Ireland, Dublin, November 2 ๐ด Fyne Conf, Edinburgh, November 3 CFP open until October 6 ๐ธ๐ฌ GopherCon Singapore, November 2-3 ๐ฆ๐บ GopherConAU, Sydney,โฆ
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Tool{chain}s of the trade, meetup war stories, and OpenTF/HashiCorp discussion with env0 CEO Ohad Maislish
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Thank you to this week's sponsor, Koyeb! ๐ Go 1.21.1 & 1.20.8 released โ๏ธ Related: Tool dependencies proposal has been accepted, and here's the design document link. We got you covered ;) ๐ซ Conference updates ๐ฎ๐ณ GopherCon India TOMORROW - shoutout Rishi Chandwani for bringing it to our attention ๐ฌ๐ง Fyne Conf Nov 3rd in the UK, CFP open until Oct 6 โฆ
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