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Deep Waters

Kenneth Shelton

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Deep Waters is about understanding and how to apply what's in the Bible. We need the absolute revelation, not interpretation, of God's written voice. Bible and ministry ignorance is one of the greatest plagues we are facing today, (also known as the Laodicean Church age) and I have the most earnest desire to eradicate this plague from our earthly church today. If you want entry level Bible teaching, or no teaching at all then you can attend your local church, but if you want to get to know G ...
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Stephen Grootes speaks to CEO of Sappi Stephen Binnie about Sappi and Finland-based UPM-Kymmene Corporation’s plan to create an independent 50/50 joint venture for graphic paper, combining their European and American operations to address structural changes in the industry and strengthen long-term resilience. In other interviews, Chantal Marx, Head…
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Motheo Khoaripe speaks to Isaah Mhlanga, Chief Economist at RMB about the recent uptick in South African business confidence and what it means for the economy going forward. In other interviews, FNB CEO Harry Kellan, talks about his career from audit manager at Arthur Andersen to HSBC associate director, joining FNB in 2005, becoming CFO at 35, ser…
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Stephen Grootes in conversation with Mark Swilling, Commissioner of the NPC about the findings of the report, Transformation of South Africa’s Monetary Architecture, 1983–2024, exploring why South Africa remains deeply unequal, why Gross Fixed Capital Formation lags far behind the National Development Plan target, and how reconfiguring balance shee…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Goolam Ballim, Chief Economist at Standard Bank, about South Africa’s economy growing by 0.5% in the third quarter, marking the fourth consecutive quarter of growth and what the latest GDP data reveals about sector performance and investment trends. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio pres…
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Send us a text Vision for the timeline of God and Prophesy are determined and based in part on which rung of the ladder you are standing on. Not all believers have the same God vision as we are all in different places with Him. This is important to say because what happens is that we fall into the idea-trap that we are smarter than others without a…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Busi Mavuso, CEO of Business Leadership South Africa, about why the upcoming appointment of the National Director of Public Prosecutions is pivotal for South Africa’s business climate, highlighting how rule of law failures drive up transaction costs and why structural reforms are essential to empower the new NDPP beyond ju…
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Stephen Grootes spoke to Thembani Bukula on his journey in the energy sector, Warren Ingram on how investors can take advantage of the positive economic outlook of the country, Marelize van Zyl on her journey in the arts and leading a creative institution, and Graeme Codrington on some of the key insights at the 2026 Dubai Futures Forum. The Money …
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Stephen Grootes speaks with Eskom’s Chief Financial Officer, Calib Cassim, about the utility’s FY 2026 interim results. Continued execution of their turnaround plan drove the group’s profitability and sustainability, resulting in profit after tax increase of R24.3 billion for the first 6 months. This is to be reinvested in critical infrastructure. …
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Stephen Grootes welcomes CEO of Cell C, Jorge Mendes, to reflect on Cell C making a strong debut on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange as shares rise 4% on first trading day. In other interviews, Stephen Grootes is joined by broadcaster, entrepreneur, and former Miss South Africa, Liesl Laurie-Mthombeni, who has also completed the Momentum Money Finge…
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Send us a text This is just one more testimony of a financial breakthrough that God had thought of and sent to me to invoke. Now I will have to provide some background as this is a testimony journey that has sub-testimonies, and will eventually culminate into a life-changing testimony in which one could consider it a promotion from the Lord. Now do…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Tiger Brands CEO, Tjaart Kruger, about the company having improved overall revenue by 2.7% to R34.4 billion and increased gross margin from 29.1% to 31.3% against prior year on a comparable basis. This result is based on continuous improvement initiatives, including value engineering, logistics optimisation, and factory ef…
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Stephen speaks to Oupa Pilane, Former Chairperson of the SA Tourism board on the investigations against the SA Tourism board on the allegations of maladministration and improper conduct. In other interviews, Stephen Grootes in conversation with Ramasela Ganda, Zeda CEO on Zeda recording strong growth across leasing, heavy commercial, greater Africa…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to African Bank Group CEO Kennedy Bungane about the Bank’s 2025 annual financial results, highlighting its transformation into a diversified, customer-centric institution and its strong performance despite a challenging environment. In other interviews, Stephen Grootes gets to know Marelize van Zyl’s inspiring career journey …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Charlotte Otter on her book We Need New Leaders and how reputation equity helps diverse CEOs thrive; Warren Ingram on why sports betting is not an investment; Wendy Knowler on the uncertainty of electric vehicle sales in South Africa and the challenges of battery component availability; and Barry van Zyl on how his journey…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Dr. Mzwanele Ntswanti, G20 Senior Researcher at the Institute for Economic Justice, and Dr. Dale McKinley, Independent Political Economist, about what the G20 means for global power, economic stability, and South Africa’s role in shaping international decisions. In other interviews, Kgothatso Moloto, Founder of Niche Parfu…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Sim Tshabalala, Standard Bank CEO and B20 Finance and Infrastructure Task Force co-chair, about overcoming geopolitical divisions to push G20 investment recommendations and close the global infrastructure gap, as Tshabalala also slams credit rating agencies for mispricing African debt. In other interviews, Isaah Mhlanga, C…
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Send us a text What throws us Christians off in our walk in life is that we don't immediately receive the love-of-God-correction or perceive it and so we develop the nasty habit of assuming, be it intentional or from a position of ignorance, that we did the dastardly deed while God was sleeping or, what is even worse, which is nothing more than avo…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Southern Sun CEO Marcel von Aulock. about Southern Sun’s record-breaking October, with occupancy hitting 73.3% and revenue soaring past even World Cup levels. In other interviews, Koketso Mano, Senior economist at FNB, discusses whether the Reserve Bank will cut the repo rate after inflation edged up to 3.6% in October. Th…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Ms Nonkululeko Dlamini Group CFO of Telkom about their strong interim results for the first half of its 2026 financial year, driven by cost optimisation and a surge in mobile data subscribers despite modest revenue growth. In other interviews, Warren Ingram, financial advisor and Co-Founder of Galileo Capital, unpacks why …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Astral CEO Gary Arnold about Astral Foods’ strong 2025 financial results, as South Africa’s largest poultry producer turned a challenging first half into a robust second-half performance, driving revenue up 10.4% to R22.6 billion and declaring a final dividend of 880 cents per share. In other interviews, Faan van der Walt,…
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Send us a text So this isn’t your typical message that will make some feeble attempt to try and explain what hell will be like and why you will see nobody there if you choose to go there. It isn’t going to be like, “hey bro what’s up?” Now we can do whatever we want now that we are in this place. Nope, Bud Light isn’t going to give to a life time, …
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Stephen Grootes spoke to Dr. Reza Mia about his journey in aesthetic medicine, Dion Chang on his book A Pawfect Life and modern pet trends, Wendy Knowler on hidden car insurance risks, and Vincent Anthonyrajah and Hlelo Giyose on how South African insurers make money and whether they’re worth investing in. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Dr Boitshoko Ntshabele, CEO of the CGA about how Southern African citrus exporters smashed expectations this year, packing a record 203.4 million cartons for global markets, a 22% surge that signals major growth potential for SA agriculture. In other interviews, Donnavan Linley, one of the inquiry's Technical Leads unpacks…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Gold Fields CEO Mike Fraser about the miner’s plan to boost output to three-million ounces by 2030, sustain production for decades, and return up to $500-million to shareholders through buybacks and special dividends. In other interviews, Hilton Kallner, CEO of Discovery Bank, chats about how the bank combines core banking…
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Send us a text Well I am back from San Diego visiting my sister and it as usual was a great time of filling and overflowing refreshment. And so but then after getting another ten messages yet to be recorded to my near 700 still waiting to be recorded, I picked up a book titled, “The Four Horsemen Of the apocalypse the greatest warning of the next 1…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Duncan Pieterse, Director-General of the National Treasury, and SARS commissioner, Edward Kieswetter about the mid-term budget delivered by Finance Minister Enoch Godongwana. Pieterse discusses the budget’s key priorities, including fiscal consolidation, infrastructure investment, and balancing social spending with economi…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Duncan Pieterse, Director General of the National Treasury, and SARS Commissioner Edward Kieswetter about the Mid-Term Budget delivered by Finance Minister Enoch Godongwana. Pieterse discusses the budget’s key priorities, including fiscal consolidation, infrastructure investment, and balancing social spending with economic…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Taz Hadjigeorgiou, CEO of LottoStar, about the rapid growth of online betting and gambling in South Africa. Hadjigeorgiou highlights how the sector has ballooned in recent years, driven by technology, mobile accessibility, and shifting consumer habits. He warns that while the industry offers convenience and entertainment, …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Machete Rakabe, Senior Researcher for Political Economy at MISTRA, about South Africa’s e-commerce boom. Rakabe shares insights from the company’s latest report, highlighting shifting consumer habits, the rise of mobile purchases and how local players are competing with global giants. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Vodacom Group CEO Shameel Joosub about the company’s impressive half-year results. Vodacom now serves 223.2 million customers, including 93.7 million in financial services, with revenue up 10.9% to R81.6 billion and EBITDA climbing 14.7% to R30.5 billion. In other interviews, Dion Chang, CEO and Co-Founder of FluxTrends, c…
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Stephen Grootes chats with Mpumi Tyikwe on leadership in insurance, Warren Ingram on boosting your credit score, Tshepo Matlou on the rise of executive coaching, and Ian Mann on Steven Pinker’s Rationality and the value of clear thinking today. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He expl…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Emile Stipp, Global Chief Actuary and Managing Director of Vitality AI, about how Discovery Group’s new partnership with Google Cloud is transforming health management. Through the launch of Vitality AI, the insurer is using artificial intelligence to deliver hyper-personalised, proactive health recommendations to millions…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Jason Lightfoot, Senior Portfolio Manager at Futuregrowth Asset Management, about why bankability, rather than capital availability, remains the main challenge in addressing South Africa’s water infrastructure crisis. Lightfoot explains that while institutional investors have billions ready to deploy, funding will only flo…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Ayabonga Cawe, Chief Commissioner of ITAC, about South Africa’s plan to ban cash sales of scrap steel. Three major recycling bodies have rejected ITAC’s amendments to the Price Preference System for scrap metal, calling them unfair and damaging to the recycling industry. They argue that the changes, including cutting the f…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Jayati Ghosh, Professor of Economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, about the G20’s first inequality report. Led by Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz and commissioned under South Africa’s G20 presidency, the report warns of an “inequality emergency” threatening democracy. In other interviews, Tshifhiwa Tshivhengw…
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Send us a text I am getting ready to visit my sister and spend sometime refreshing and growing spiritually. I leave you with a message that I came across in a little booklet titled, “I Am An Idea written by Dr Jack Hyles. But before I get into this, I would recommend you can use the next 8-days beginning Nov 4th to get caught up on some of the prev…
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Stephen Grootes interviews Andrew König, CEO of Redefine Properties, and Werner Kapp, CEO of Altron, to unpack their companies' financial results and explore the outlook for South Africa’s commercial property and technology sectors amid economic challenges. In other interviews,Norman Raad, CEO of Broll Auctions and Sales, speaks about one of South …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to investigative journalist and author Pauli van Wyk about her new book Malema – Money. Power. Patronage. The book takes an unflinching look at the rise of Economic Freedom Fighters leader Julius Malema, tracing how his political influence, business dealings, and network of allies have shaped South Africa’s political and econ…
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Send us a text Ok so if we grab a hold of this concept it could keep us from becoming hyper-religious like the Pharisees, Scribes, Sadducees, teachers, lawyers, and some Samaritan's in the days of Jesus. Oh, and if you think anything has changed in humanity in these days you would be mistaken. Where do you think the Catholic Church, denominations, …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Andrew Fulton, Director at Eighty20, about the growing footprint of gambling in South Africa and its impact on the economy. Once limited to casinos, the industry has ballooned into a R75 billion giant spanning sportsbooks, slot machines, and online platforms. In other Interviews: Stephen Grootes speaks to Reshni Singh, CEO…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Geoffrey Nolting, senior economist at the Public Investment Corporation (PIC) and co-author of a new research paper, about how South Africa could create 250,000 jobs and generate R100 billion in economic uplift over the next five years by doubling down on re-industrialisation efforts. In other Interviews: Stephen Grootes s…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Joe Cavatoni, Market Strategist at the World Gold Council, about the World Gold Demand Trends Q3 report, which highlights how central bank buying, resilient investment demand, and strong consumer interest in jewellery continued to support the gold market amid global economic uncertainty. The Money Show is a podcast hosted …
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Ruse Moleshe, Energy Expert, about the controversy surrounding NERSA’s stance that the public has no right to know how much municipalities pay for electricity. In other Interviews: Stephen Grootes speaks to Shergeran Naidoo, Head of Stakeholder Engagements at PayInc about the latest PayInc Net Salary Index, which shows tha…
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Stephen Grootes speaks to Faan van der Walt, Founder and Executive Director at WeBuyCars, about the JSE-listed company’s profit warning that sent its share price tumbling 14%, wiping out R2.76 billion in market value. In other Interviews: Stephen Grootes speaks to Old Mutual CEO Jurie Strydom as the Group unveils its refreshed strategy at its 2025 …
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Send us a text Welcome back to part two of a four-part series on the 7-raptures. In truth the totality of these scriptures is a 100% completely supported activity which will take place. Continue to follow this series and send the links out to any of your friends who are open to the idea if they in fact currently believe they will incur a second jud…
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Send us a text Up front reminder to send these messages out to your friends and those in whom you might be ministering or discipling. Let’s work together as many hands make light work. We are currently in 125 countries which represent 64% of the planet. But this isn’t the whole picture. We are over 8-billion people on this planet and so the laborer…
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Send us a text Welcome back to part four of a four-part series on the 7-raptures. So no doubt you have learned that there have been and will be raptures. It’s not magic or escapism. It is the plan of God as He is building His kingdom for all of eternity. I hope you have paid close attention to some of the scriptures provided as if you continue in i…
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Send us a text Welcome back to part three of a four-part series on the 7-raptures. If your noodle hasn’t been at least a little excited by the revelations contained in this series of messages then I recommend listening to them again with your bible open right up beside you. Continue to follow this series and send the links out to any of your friend…
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Stephen Grootes Stephen Grootes speaks to Pick n Pay CEO Sean Summers about the retailer’s interim results for the 26 weeks ended 31 August 2025, which show steady progress in its turnaround strategy. In other Interviews: Stephen Grootes speaks to Ismail Momoniat, official at the National Treasury, about South Africa’s removal from the Financial Ac…
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Stephen Grootes spoke to Mannee de Wet about building Planet Fitness, Mike Stopforth about leadership through better questions, Wendy Knowler about FNB’s eBucks shake-up, and Melvyn Lubega about scaling African tech innovation. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest e…
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