Theologians today talk about “participation” in Christ and the need for “catechesis” — but what do these terms actually mean? Dr. Alex Fogleman joins us to talk about how the early church understood discipleship, sacraments, justification, and the nature of the church. We also discuss how modern day Christians can draw on the wisdom of the past to …

Churches rightly warn against gossip, but also the need to hold people accountable for their sins. Matthew Lee Anderson of Mere Fidelity argues for that certain specific circumstances may permit the use of gossip to protect a vulnerable third party. He draws from the moral and theological tradition of the church to identify specific criteria for th…

A quick update on posting schedule: we’re changing our episode schedule from every week to twice a month. We also provide a preview of upcoming interviews with Michael Lynch on the Reformation and Modernity, Matthew Lee Anderson on the Morality of Gossip, and Alex Fogleman on the Patristics. Show Notes Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io…

Acts features a lot of events that puzzle our modern ears: flaming tongues, exorcisms, miraculous jailbreaks and sweeping revivals, but a closer inspection reveals the story of God doing extraordinary things through ordinary means. Dr. Robert Cara joins us help shed light on the narrative of Acts as well as give us categories for understanding both…

If you’re thinking through baptism for yourself or your family check out this episode! We get into the controversial debate over the proper subjects of baptism. Dr. Steve Wellum from Southern Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky makes the case that baptism is only for men and women who make a credible profession of faith over and against th…

There’s a long-standing tensions between the academic disciplines of Systematic theology and Biblical theology. In this episode, Derek Rishmawy from the Mere Fidelity podcast joins us to try to bridge the gap by appreciating the insights of both. We talk about the role and importance of systematics not only in giving us conceptual clarity, but also…

If you’ve noticed a shift in Evangelicalism over the past five years you’re not alone. Aaron Renn, host of the Aaron Renn Show, joins us to talk about his book Life in the Negative World: Confronting Challenges in an Anti-Christian Culture. We talk about the why figures like Jordan Peterson and Jocko Willink draw the attention of many Christian you…

Stories shape us in powerful ways and remain one of the greatest mediums for communicating truth. Renowned eye surgeon Dr. Ming Wang joins us to talk about his story from persecution in China to freedom in America as well as his conversion from atheism to Christianity. We talk about his revolutionary work in the field of eye surgery to restore sigh…

In this episode we discuss a compelling case from the Scriptures and church theologians like John Calvin, Thomas Aquinas, and others about whether taking from the wealthy to feed the poor constitutes theft. We lay out a compelling case that God intends his creation to sustain the basic needs of his creatures. Therefore, every creature made in God’s…

There’s a lot of talk today about the ethics of frozen embryos in light of current events. This controversial subject deserves clear thinking that’s both sensitive to the real situations people encounter and the witness of the Scriptures. Paul and Bryan discuss recent documents from the Roman Catholic church, Donum Vitae and Dignitas Personae which…

What Bible did the Apostle Paul grow up reading? This complex question demonstrates the need for understanding the Septuagint, a fancy name for a stream of translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek. Dr. Greg Lanier joins us to discuss what the Septuagint is and why it matters today. We talk about common misconceptions about the Septuagint as well…

A summary of my interview with Dr. Michael Haykin plus some additional thoughts Check out the original interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thatll-preach/id1585680895?i=1000633986083 Show Notes Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube ChannelBy thatllpreachpodcast

Jesus died on the cross for our sins, but that’s not the end of the story. Theologian and pastor Jeremy Treat joins us to talk about all the cross accomplished on our behalf and how that changes the way we communicate the gospel to a post-Christian world. We go through the three main theories of the atonement: Christus Victor, penal substitutionary…

Everybody today talks about the polarization of America. We’re caught up in reactivity and this creates an anxiety that seeps into churches today. Where can we turn for wisdom? The Reformed Anglican theologian Richard Hooker. Dr. Brad Littlejohn joins us to talk about how Hooker navigated tensions within the Reformation between Presbyterians and Ep…

We naturally understand that the phrase “God is wise” differs from “God is a rock”. One speaks formally about God and the other informally or metaphorically, but what about a less clear phrase like “God is angry?” Ryan Hurd from the Davenant Institute joins us for a provocative conversation about how God possesses zero wrath and why both “God is an…

Get a crash course on John Calvin’s theology based off our interview with Dr. Peter Lillback of Westminster Theological Seminary! Check out the original interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thatll-preach/id1585680895?i=1000642621821 Show Notes Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube Channel…

Pastors often find themselves ill-equipped to lead churches after seminary. Charlie Wingard of RTS Jackson wants to change all that. He joins us to talk about the challenges young pastors face as they take on a lead role in a church as well as pitfalls that lead to burnout. He also provides practical ways pastors can develop elders, deacons, and le…

We often think about Classical Christian Education in terms of what it’s against. It’s against public schools, secularism, and bad social influences. But what is a classical Christian education for? Dale Stenberg who hosts the Pilgrim Faith podcast and serves as headmaster of Pietas Classical Christian school join us to talk about the positive visi…

The name John Calvin sends a cold chill down the spine of some Christians. The famous Reformer seems cold, detached, and authoritarian due to his teachings on predestination, election, and his role in the execution of the heretic Servetus. But there’s more to Calvin’s story than meets the eye. What if we’ve misunderstood him completely? Dr. Peter L…

How should Christians think about contentment in all situations of life. When times are good there’s a temptation to complacency. When times are difficult we struggle with despair and bitterness. Calvin encourages Christians to meditate on the fragility and temporary nature of life in order to cultivate eternal hope. Website: thatllpreach.io IG: @t…

Roman Catholics often critique the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura because it devolves into subjectivity and ignores the witness of church history. In this episode, Sean Luke of Anglican Aesthetics challenges those critiques by looking at what both the Church Fathers and the Reformers actually believed. He also advocates for the position of “…

We continue our series on John Calvin’s A Little Book on the Christian Life by looking at the Reformer’s insights on suffering and trials. We learn about the way suffering contributes to our salvation, forges in us the virtue of patience, and spurs us on toward greater joy. Website: thatllpreach.io IG: @thatllpreachpodcast…

Onsi Kamel joins us to talk about how his study of Roman Catholicism made him Protestant. In this episode we discuss the ways Roman Catholicism appealed to his need for certainty and hunger for historical rootedness. He also talks candidly about the influence of the famous Anglican-turned-Roman Catholic theologian John Henry Newman. He shares ways …

Do you or someone you love suffer from “Cage-Stage Calvinism?” We have the antidote from the original Calvinist himself, John Calvin. In this episode we look at the first two chapters of his classic work A Little Book on the Christian Life to hear practical and pastoral advice from Calvin on connecting doctrine to life, loving self-sacrificially, a…

This is the first episode of a new segment called “Podcast Recap” which summarizes key points of guest interviews in a distilled and accessible way. This episode look at the main points of an interview with Chris Castaldo on Why Protestants Become Catholics. Check out the full podcast episode here Visit our website: thatllpreach.io Follow us on Ins…

Dr. Matt Hoskin of the Davenant Institute joins the show to talk about how Protestants can benefit from the Desert Fathers. The Desert Fathers left civilization in order to seek God with a single mind. They fasted, took vows of celibacy, and fought the occasional demon. Our modern eyes look at the Desert Fathers with cynicism, but that betrays a la…

Pastor Chris Castaldo of New Covenant Church, Naperville joins us to talk about reasons why Protestants convert to Roman Catholicism. In this episode we discuss the psychological, theological, and sociological factors that compel Protestants to “cross the Tiber” to Rome as well as the ways the Protestant tradition fills those needs. Chris draws upo…

In this episode we discuss Martin Luther’s theological breakthrough that set the stage for the Reformation. He did not set out to start a movement, but rather wanted to debate with integrity and honesty the malpractice of the Roman Catholic church. This desire led him down a path that pit him against the Catholic church, the Pope, and the Holy Roma…

John Henry Newman once remarked that, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.” Dr. Michael Haykin of Southern Seminary disagrees. Join us for a fascinating conversation on what Church Fathers like Cyprian, Athanasius, Augustine, Ignatius, Irenaeus, Clement, and others thought about baptism, the Lord’s Supper, and polity. We also talk a…

We’re starting a new series on Protestantism in honor of Reformation day. In this episode we discuss the appeal of Roman Catholicism in a post-Christian age and the necessity of the Protestant Reformation. We talk about common misunderstandings Protestants have of Catholics as well as ways Catholics misrepresent Protestants. We also talk about the …

We welcome Pastor Steven Lee of the North Church in Minneapolis, MI to share his insights on the subject of conflict within the church. We discuss the importance of feedback among leaders and staff as well as the importance of having a thick skin when engaging difficult topics. Steven shares his own experience of leading a large church through the …

Dr. Gray Sutanto of Reformed Theological Seminary in Washington DC joins us to discuss the relevance of Herman Bavinck's theology of revelation in today’s post-Christian world. Herman Bavinck, the renowned Dutch theologian of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, has much to teach us about divine revelation in a contemporary context. Dr. Sutanto …

We are privileged to have Dr. James Strasburg as our guest to help explore a compelling facet of American history: the profound influence of theological perspectives concerning the "end times" or "eschatology." Our discussion commences with a historical overview of the theological landscape. During America's nascent years, the prevailing theologica…

Mike Glodo of Reformed Theological Seminary, Orlando joins us to discuss his new book The Lord Bless You and Keep You: The Promise of the Gospel in the Aaronic Blessing. We discuss the role of the benediction in the church service and how it assures God’s people of his love for them. The Aaronic blessing also contains within it a rich biblical theo…

Our special guest, Dr. Guy Waters, a distinguished theologian and professor at Reformed Theological Seminary, brings his deep insights and extensive knowledge to the subject of death. Dr. Waters is a widely respected figure in the world of Reformed theology, known for his thoughtful and compassionate approach to complex spiritual matters. In this p…

Rev. Michael Petty of St. Peter's Anglican church joins us for an informative podcast on spiritual formation. We discuss a variety of topics from developing a life of prayer, reading Scripture in community, engaging Christians with their spiritual gifts, and the causes and cures for pastoral burnout. Michael also shares personal anecdotes of the wa…

In this episode of That'll Preach we take an intriguing journey into the heart of biblical scholarship to scrutinize the reliability of the Old Testament. Join us as we engage in a captivating conversation with distinguished Old Testament scholar, Professor Peter Lee, from RTS (Reformed Theological Seminary). We delve deep into the questions that h…

Pastor Les Newsom of Christ Presbyterian Church in Oxford, Mississippi joins us to talk about the importance of preaching in the formation of Christians in the church. He goes into the way he thinks through connecting the Bible with the congregation though imagination and rhetoric. He also speaks to the need for preaching in the midst of an increas…

Welcome to another episode of "That'll Preach"! In this thought-provoking installment, we dive into a topic that has ignited centuries of debate and reflection: "Has the Church Replaced Israel?" Join us as we explore the historical and theological dimensions of this complex issue, shedding light on its significance within Christianity. Dr. McDermot…

On this episode of That'll Preach we will hear from Dr. Greg Allison of Southern Seminary on the differences between Roman Catholic and Protestant approaches to Scripture, authority, and tradition. Allison argues that Catholicism's "three stools" of Scripture, tradition, and the Magisterium stand at odds with the classic Protestant vision of Sola S…

We wrap up our series on Chesterton's classic Orthodoxy by exploring the common arguments against Christianity. Chesterton does not argue from a standard apologetics approach, but instead utilizes common sense to show how our faith in Christianity rests not upon one "slam dunk" argument, but rather the accumulation of a thousand little pieces of ev…

In this episode we look at Chesterton's profound exploration of the essence and allure of orthodox Christian beliefs. He celebrates the paradoxical nature of truth, highlighting how orthodox Christianity, with all its enchanting mysteries, brings a fresh vitality to the world. Chesterton argues that while modernity may be filled with wild and waste…

Our series in Orthodoxy continues as we look at Chesterton's interesting perspective on wealthy people, the aristocracy, and placing too much trust in the government. He also points out the fundamental flawed assumption of progressivism: that things left to themselves will progress rather than decay. "Open-mindedness" does not automatically lead to…

Dr. Michael Lynch of the Davenant Institute joins us to discuss the controversial topic of the atonement. Theologians throughout church history have debated over the nature and extent of Jesus's death on the cross. Did God unjustly punish an innocent man? Did Jesus's death make forgiveness of sins actual or merely possible? How do we understand the…

We continue our series in Chesterton's classic Orthodoxy by looking at his famous chapter on the paradox of Christianity. Chesterton writes about how the strangeness of Christianity bolsters its credibility as truth. We should not expect divine revelation to make complete sense to our minds. He also points out that the hostility of the modern world…

Bryan and Paul discuss chapter five of G.K. Chesterton's Orthodoxy entitled "The Flag of the World". In this chapter, Chesterton explains why we must love a place before we critique it and the freedom that God gives to mankind. He takes shots at naturalism and so-called "progress" by helping us understand how Christianity revolutionized the world. …

Dr. Jonathan Pennington of Southern Seminary (SBTS) joins us to talk about his new book Come and See: The Journey of Knowing God Through Scripture. We talk about three ways of reading Scripture well: informationally, theologically, and transformationally. Each of these stages challenges us to grow in our understanding of the word of God in practica…

We’re back in Chesterton’s Orthodoxy looking at his take on how fairy tales inform our virtues and teach us about joy. Our modern craving for novelty reveals a weakness rather than a strength for God continues to do the same things over and over again, but finds joy in them. Children find joy in repetition because they do not lose their wonder for …

We continue our discussion of G.K. Chesterton's book Orthodoxy with his third chapter on how modernity's abandonment of Christianity not only lets vices go wild, but also virtues. We also discuss how Chesterton identifies modern false humility that remains skeptical about everything except its own skepticism. Here are some solid quotes from chapter…

Ryan Hurd from the Davenant Institute joins us to talk about the "spiritual" and "literal" readings of Scripture. Evangelicals often misunderstand the "literal" sense as referring only to the historicity of the Bible. But the church throughout the ages understood the literal sense in terms of the "letters" of the text in addition to its historicity…