Podcast Perspectives helps you understand the ever-changing podcast industry. Hosted by Jeff Umbro, founder and CEO of The Podglomerate, a podcast services agency focused on production, audience growth, and monetization for some of the biggest podcasts in the world, this Signal Award winning show speaks to leaders in the podcast space through longform interviews and panel discussions. The goal is to walk through not only the important news and issues of the day in the podcast landscape, but ...
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An investigative podcast hosted by world-renowned literary critic and publishing insider Bethanne Patrick. Book bans are on the rise across America. With the rise of social media, book publishers are losing their power as the industry gatekeepers. More and more celebrities and influencers are publishing books with ghostwriters. Writing communities are splintering because members are at cross purposes about their mission. Missing Pages is an investigative podcast about the book publishing ind ...
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Building a Media Empire: Ballen Studios’ Nick Witters
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39:31What does it take to manage top names in podcasting and YouTube? Nick Witters is the CEO of Ballen Studios, the new media company best known for the MrBallen YouTube channel. Nick joins the podcast to share his insights on content creation, business growth, and strategic partnerships in YouTube, podcasting, and other media ventures. He recounts his…
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A Legacy Comedy Podcast Network Shifts to Video with Forever Dog’s Joe Cilio
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44:24How can you grow your podcast company in the wake of bigger media companies like Spotify? Joe Cilio is co-founder and CEO of Forever Dog Productions, a prominent podcast production company known for alt comedy. He joins the podcast to share the origins and evolution of Forever Dog, the success of launching shows like Bowen Yang’s “Las Culturistas,”…
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Unlocking Podcast Legalities: Klaris Law’s Alexia Bedat
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35:53How can you protect the podcast that you own? Alexia Bedat is a lawyer and partner at Klaris Law, leading its podcast and audio team. She joins the podcast to share her expert insights on the evolving legal landscape of podcasting. Alexia discusses the significance of negotiating clear contracts, especially in the growing areas of video and social …
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Finding Your Audience: Sounds Profitable's Tom Webster
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42:39How do you grow your podcast audience? Tom Webster is a partner at Sounds Profitable and has spent over 25 years researching audio. He joins the podcast to discuss his new book, “The Audience is Listening.” Tom shares his insights into understanding and developing podcast audiences, He and I explore listener behaviors, the challenges of monetizing …
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Introducing The Podcast Advertising Playbook
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30:42This week on the podcast, we’re excited to share an episode from The Podcast Advertising Playbook, hosted by Heather Osgood, founder and CEO of True Native Media. In this episode, Heather sits down with Maggie Beyer, Associate Director, Digital Media at Veritone One, to discuss the future of podcast advertising and how emerging technologies are res…
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From Impact to Acquisition: Wonder Media Network Co-Founder and ACast SVP of Development Shira Atkins
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41:15What will Wonder Media Network look like after its acquisition by Acast? Co-founder of Wonder Media Network Shira Atkins joins the podcast to discuss the history and growth of WMN and its acquisition by Acast. Shira discusses Wonder’s early challenges in monetization and distribution and how the company adapted to find success. Shira and I also tal…
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Podcast Marketing 101 with The Podglomerate and The Webby Awards
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57:45What’s in the “secret marketing sauce” for podcasts from Netflix and PBS to hit the top of the charts, reach target audiences, and win coveted awards? Whether you’re interested in launching a podcast or want to scale up your current show’s audience growth strategy, today’s episode is for you. Last month, The Podglomerate co-hosted a special Podcast…
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The Business Side of Podcasting: Insights from Room Tone's Co-Founder Ben Riskin
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45:26Are podcast creators overlooking some business aspects of a growing industry? Ben Riskin, co-founder of Room Tone, joins me to discuss his advisory firm, which focuses on podcasting's business development side. We explore Ben’s journey from lawyer to podcast producer to professional services. He also elaborates on Room Tone’s three tiers of strateg…
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How to Create a Podcast Interview That Doesn’t Suck Featuring Jeff Umbro, Fatima Zaidi, Jennifer Moss, Annalise Nielsen, and Quincy de Vries
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36:55In this special episode we're bringing you a panel from Podcast Movement 2024 featuring our own CEO and Founder, Jeff Umbro! We’ve all tuned into awkward interviews – maybe the guest wasn’t prepped correctly, maybe the host went too far off-script – either way, they can be entertaining to watch, but when you’re in the hot seat it’s a completely dif…
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Stop Paying for Audience: Master The Power of Organic Marketing Featuring Joni Deutsch, Christy Mirabel, Lauren Passell, Pierre Bouvard, and Odile Beniflah
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36:41In this special episode we're bringing you a panel from Podcast Movement 2024 featuring our own SVP of Podcast Marketing and Audience Development, Joni Deutsch! Paid marketing isn’t the only way to grow a show. Discover the immense value of non-paid strategies to grow your audience. Join Ausha’s Odile Beniflah and her panel of top podcast marketing…
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In today’s episode, we’re sharing an episode of Feed the Queue, the ultimate podcast discovery podcast from Tink Media, the award-winning podcast marketing and PR company. If you’ve experienced the struggle of finding new podcasts, then you’ll love Feed the Queue! It’s a podcast dedicated to sharing new and unique podcasts with you. Each episode fe…
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Where to Start With Advertising Attribution in Podcasting with Pete Birsinger and Cameron Hendrix
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48:30Podcast advertising is unique in the world of advertising. Impact can be challenging to gauge and Chartable, a leading product in this space, is sunsetting. To understand the world of ad performance and measurement now, I’m joined in this episode by Pete Birsinger, the founder and CEO of Podscribe, and Cameron Hendrix, founder and CEO of Magellan A…
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Introducing The Sound Off Podcast: Jeff Umbro
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51:00In this episode of The Sound Off Podcast, Podcast Perspectives host (and The Podglomerate's CEO/Founder) Jeff Umbro discusses his transition from book publicist to podcasting, highlighting The Podglomerate's evolution since 2017. He emphasizes the importance of podcast promotion, noting that cross-promos are effective but should not be the sole str…
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Predictions and Retrospectives with 19 Podcast Industry Leaders
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39:04As we look towards the New Year, we’ve gathered some of the brightest minds in podcasting to reflect on a transformative year. From indie creators to network executives, our guests share their most humbling lessons, unexpected wins, and the moments that made them rethink everything. Plus, they reveal what’s keeping them up at night – and what’s get…
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How has iHeart Reigned Supreme? with Will Pearson
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42:04How has iHeartMedia reigned supreme in podcasting? Will Pearson, president of iHeartPodcasts, joins me to discuss how curiosity and collaboration have shaped his career and approach to creative development. From starting Mental Floss to holding executive roles at HowStuffWorks and now iHeart, we explore how Will and his team at iHeart have put the …
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The Audio Intrapreneur with Molly Barton of Realm
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39:32Are audiobooks the key to landing big-time clients like Marvel and DC Comics? My guest, Molly Barton, Realm's co-founder and CEO, has done just that. She dove into the world of audio after leaving her job at Penguin Random House to co-found Serial Box, an audio story company that reimagined what an audiobook could be. In 2021, Serial Box was rebran…
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The Journey to CEO with Gretta Cohn of Pushkin Industries
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46:11Gretta Cohn, CEO of Pushkin Industries, has had a fascinating career path, from cellist for Cursive and Bright Eyes to intern at the Village Voice, to producer at WNYC and Earwolf, to founding her own company. We discuss what she's learned throughout her career, her experience founding the production company Transmitter in 2017, her feelings about …
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The Importance of Story with Hyperfixed’s Alex Goldman
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38:58How does it feel to go from being a podcast co-host to the owner of a brand-new podcast venture? My guest, Alex Goldman, host and creator of Hyperfixed, shares his experience of taking the big leap to podcast ownership. We discuss his previous show, Reply All, how he's built his new business with a lean team, the role Supporting Cast subscribers pl…
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The Wild West of Podcast Development with WaitWhat’s Leital Molad
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44:55What’s the next frontier of podcasting? My guest, Leital Molad, the Head of Podcasts at WaitWhat and podcast trailblazer, has some answers. We discuss her approach to developing groundbreaking shows, like Paul McCartney’s A Life in Lyrics and A Slight Change of Plans. I also get her thoughts on AI – including her insight into WaitWhat’s Listener’s …
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Navigating the Evolution of Ads with TWiT.tv’s Lisa Laporte
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30:03How do you create a meaningful podcast advertising campaign in today's market? In this episode, I’m talking with Lisa, CEO of TWiT.tv. She's led the company for 16 years and has witnessed many ebbs and flows, especially when it comes to ad sales. Lisa and I talk about the range of podcast advertising options, her approach to sales partnerships, and…
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Panel: Community in Audio with Jemma Rose Brown, Davy Gardner, and Chioke I’Anson
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45:15Podcasts are intimate. Listening to them is often a solitary experience, and although fandoms emerge, building community within the industry can be a challenge. In this episode, I’m talking with three guests who have extensive experience developing community in the podcast world through festivals and awards: Jemma Rose Brown, general manager of the…
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What do wrestling and podcasting have in common? Jason Hoch, who ran WWE’s digital team during the early social media days and is now a leading podcast producer. In this episode, I talk with Jason, now the CEO and Chief Creative Officer at Wavland. Jason and I chat about his experience at the WWE, what it was like to work at HowStuffWorks on the hi…
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The Client Whisperer with Pod People’s Rachael King
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36:42The podcast industry, like all media and entertainment, is undergoing a course correction. In this episode, I speak with Rachael King, CEO of Pod People. Rachael and I chat about podcast marketing strategies, team building advice, her latest predictions for the future, and why her first question to client has nothing to do with podcasts. To learn m…
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From Private Equity to Podcasting with Blanchard House’s Hassan Chaudhry
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44:15Storytelling podcasts are a unique subsection of podcasting, and one with many obstacles and challenges to overcome. In this episode, I’m talking with Hassan Chaudhry, head of partnerships and strategy at Blanchard House, a UK-based independent podcast company which focuses on storytelling. Hassan is the former director of business and strategy wit…
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The Power of Predictive Podcast Analytics with Flightpath’s Sean Howard
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39:37The podcast world is growing rapidly, and podcasters can fall behind without a glimpse of the future. Predictive analytics have become vital for podcasts to survive and flourish. In this episode, I’m talking with Sean Howard, the founder and CEO of Flightpath, a predictive analytics platform for podcasting. He’s also the founder of Fable and Folly,…
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Cinematic Sound Design with Garrett Tiedemann of Campside Media
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26:45On today’s episode we’re doing something different: Chris Boniello, the Podglomerate’s VP of Production Services, is taking over the host seat to discuss the production side of podcasting. He chats with Garrett Tiedemann, Mix Engineer and Sound Designer at Campside Media. This year, Garrett was nominated for ‘Best Production and Sound Design’ at th…
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Bringing SEO to Podcasting with Ausha’s Odile Beniflah
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31:56There are many unknowns when it comes to podcast marketing. This is because ‘podcast marketers’ are often podcasters who become marketers, rather than professional marketers who got into podcasting. In this episode, I’m speaking with someone from the latter category: Odile Beniflah, Head of US at Ausha. Ausha is a podcast hosting platform with an i…
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Since its founding in 2014, Acast has become a global, publicly-traded company. Their business has touched many facets of the podcasting landscape – from building a hosting platform used by more than 125,000 podcasts to acquiring companies like Pippa, RadioPublic, and Podchaser. Acast also launched and shuttered its own app. In this episode, Acast’…
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The Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) can be a confusing organization for the podcasting industry. They’re an influential player that many recognize by name, but it's not often clear to the everyday podcaster what they actually do. The IAB’s main objective is to develop and establish the ‘rules and regulations of podcasting’ – namely determining…
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Mission-Driven Development with Wonder Media Network’s Emily Rudder
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31:07Wonder Media Network was founded in 2018 to “introduce empathy into politics, business, and culture.” Since then, they’ve grown into a sizable independent network, creating award-winning originals and branded series for clients. To walk me through the secrets to Wonder Media’s success, I talk with their Head of Development, Emily Rudder. Emily has …
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Slate’s Most Profitable Year Ever with VP of Audio Alicia Montgomery
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31:58The 27-year-old Slate Magazine just had its most profitable year ever, and it credits podcasting for much of its success. Slate has been publishing podcasts since the 2005 launch of Political Gabfest, and they’ve built on that success ever since. Today, they have dozens of successful shows, a thriving subscription business in Slate Plus, and they r…
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Building a Podcasting Cooperative with Maximum Fun CEO Bikram Chatterji
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38:12In March of 2023 the podcast agency Maximum Fun announced the company would convert to a worker-owned model. At the same time, Maximum Fun’s founder, Jesse Thorn, would be stepping down as CEO after nearly 20 years at the company (though would still work at MaxFun). On this episode, I'm checking in with their current CEO Bikram Chatterji to see how…
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Tenderfoot TV in 2024 with CEO Donald Albright
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39:32Since the launch of Up and Vanished Season 1 in 2016, Tenderfoot TV has steadily grown into one of the most impactful companies in the podcast industry. To explain how Tenderfoot TV got to where it is today, CEO Donald Albright joins me to talk about Tenderfoot’s unique approach to podcast marketing, how they leveraged the success of Up and Vanishe…
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The Bull Case for Podcasting with DWNLOAD Media’s Chris Peterson
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33:29Chris Peterson is betting big on the podcast industry in 2024. The ex-iHeart executive founded DWNLOAD Media, a podcast roll-up aimed at buying and operationalizing existing podcast companies to compete with the giants in the space. He’s currently in the early stages of development, pitching investors and audio companies on the idea. To promote his…
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Writing Communities: The Man Who Played Hache Carrillo
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44:04We take a look at the case of Hache Carrillo, who lied about his ethnicity, and put it in context with his contributions to the communities he worked in. We talk to former colleagues Luis Bayard and Lisa Page, and Bethanne reveals her first-hand experience working with Hache on the board of the PEN Faulkner Foundation. Website: https://listen.podgl…
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Writing Communities: The Bad Art Friend Saga
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39:41We cover the story behind Bad Art Friend. In this episode, we plan to observe how the publishing industry is built on trust and investigate what happens when that trust is broken. We speak with Rebecca Meacham, a fiction writer who wrote about literary theft and its consequences, and Becky Tuch, a former member of the now-infamous Chunky Monkeys wr…
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Running a Small but Mighty Podcast Operation with Podcamp Media’s Dusty Weis
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34:27Today I’m chatting with Dusty Weis, Founder and President of the B2B podcast production company Podcamp Media. Podcamp is a small but mighty firm based in Wisconsin. They largely works with companies, brands, and trade associations also based in the Midwest. Dusty does for brands what typically takes a whole team – from conceptualizing to producing…
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We’ve been talking a lot about ghost writing, because ghosting – that’s the industry term – is BIG business. This is a bonus episode of our series about ghostwriting. In this episode, you’ll hear from Madeleine Morel who is an agent for ghostwriters and Andrew Crofts, a successful ghostwriter. Website: https://listen.podglomerate.com/show/missing-p…
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How does a ghostwriter capture the subject’s voice when writing a cookbook? And for the ghostwriters behind the stories, how does ghostwriting cookbooks differ from non-fiction? We talk to JJ Goode, a Brooklyn-based food writer, to get inside the mind of a cookbook ghostwriter. Website: https://listen.podglomerate.com/show/missing-pages/ YouTube: h…
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Podcast Perspectives: The State of the Audiobook Industry
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34:36Today we’re looking at audiobooks. While the explosive growth of podcasting has dominated headlines in the audio world, the audiobooks market has slowly and steadily grown alongside it. Today, the international audiobook industry can claim $5 billion in revenue, while podcasting boasts around $2 billion. So how did this happen? What can we in podca…
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Ghostwriting: Fiction - Will The Real Tom Clancy Please Stand Up?
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28:35We explore what ghostwriting looks like for fiction. For genres like spy novels and fantasy, how does book publishing capitalize on ghostwriters to unlock lucrative IP extensions on streaming? We talk to Jeff Rovin, who has written Tom Clancy novels, and Andrew Crofts, who wrote the memoir Confessions of a Ghostwriter, to get the scoop. Website: ht…
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QCODE Media’s Steve Wilson on Bringing “Prestige” to Fiction Podcasts
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32:25The antiquated radio drama is making a comeback, now rebranded as “fiction podcasts,” and agencies like QCODE Media are leading the way in making these shows marquee programming. Their production is up there with the best, the artwork has the iconic look of an HBO original, and they’ve cast A-list Hollywood stars like Rami Malek, Kerry Washington, …
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Ghostwriting: Non-Fiction - The Literary Chameleon
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30:04In this episode of Missing Pages we examine the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghostwriting and all its thorny edges, with a focus on what the elusive and often secretive practice means for a publishing industry ever on the brink of combustion. We talk to ghostwriting veterans like Daniel Paisner, Jon Sternfeld, Daniel Gerstein as well as cookboo…
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Today we’re shifting our focus away from podcasts and toward its sister industry: audiobooks. While the explosive growth of podcasting has dominated headlines in the audio world, the audiobooks market has slowly and steadily grown alongside it. Today, the international audiobook industry can claim $5 billion in revenue, while podcasting boasts arou…
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This week we're excited to share an episode from Nerdette, a fun weekly interview show produced by our friends at WBEZ. In this episode, fellow professional book lovers Miwa Messer and Andrew Limbong joined Nerdette host Greta Johnsen to discuss their top picks for the year. Here are the books mentioned in the episode. For pictures, links and more …
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Double Elvis’s Brady Sadler and the Business Behind Disgraceland
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30:49Music and podcasting, in many ways, are a natural combo. Today, they’re often even consumed on the same platform. The music podcast subgenre is brimming with opportunity for interesting new collaborations, formats, and technologies. The result: this niche within podcasting is producing some of the most innovative projects out there. Today I’m chatt…
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Bans & Violence: Bonus - Gaby Wood Interview
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26:55We look into the results of censorship in extreme cases, using Salman Rushdie as a case study. Does extreme censorship of books lead to violence? We spoke with Gaby Wood, the Chief Executive of the Booker Prize Foundation, to find out more. Website: https://listen.podglomerate.com/show/missing-pages/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xe_qmL…
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Why Audacy’s Jenna Weiss-Berman is Optimistic About the Podcast Industry
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38:172023 has been a tough year for a lot of people in the podcast industry. Years of investment in the space looks to be slowing down, and dozens of companies are reeling because of it. It’s clear to most that the business side of podcasting will have to be more intentional moving forward. To discuss this transition, I’m speaking with Jenna Weiss-Berma…
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Bans & Violence: Bonus - The Full Jodi Picoult Interview
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33:13If you listened to our episodes about the rise of book banning, you heard about the efforts around the U.S. to censor books on sexual or racial grounds. However it seems there's a lot more going on than that. One of the guests that we spoke with – NYTs Bestselling author Jodi Picoult – has firsthand experience with book banning. Picoult's book, 19 …
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Studio Ochenta CEO Lory Martinez on Adapting Podcasts for an International Market
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32:41Like the rest of the world, podcasting is becoming a global business. However here in the Anglophone world, we don’t hear much about what’s going on in other podcasting markets like LATAM, India, China, let alone create content to serve these markets. Folks like Lory Martinez, founder and CEO of Studio Ochenta, are here to help bridge that gap. Stu…
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