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Two Think Minimum

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Podcast of the Technology Policy Institute of Washington, D.C. The Technology Policy Institute is a think tank that focuses on the economics of innovation, technological change, and related regulation in the United States and around the world. Our mission is to advance knowledge and inform policymakers by producing independent, rigorous research and by sponsoring educational programs and conferences on major issues affecting information technology and communications policy.
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A casual podcast featuring two teenage hosts: Bryli and Denise. Listen to hear our thoughts on high school, society, pop culture, our lives, and just about anything else you can think about.
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Nicolas Petit, Chair in Competition Law at the European University Institute, joins hosts Tom Lenard, Scott Wallsten, and Sarah Oh Lam to explore the pressing challenges facing European competitiveness. Drawing insights from the recent Draghi Report, Petit discusses Europe's innovation gaps, the role of big tec…
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On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, TPI hosts Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten explore the world of polls and prediction markets with Aristotle CEO John Phillips and General Counsel David Mason. Aristotle helps run PredictIt, a platform which enables research into how markets can forecast events in real-time. The conversation co…
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This week, we sort of rushed through a recording so I (Yvgenii) could go be democratic. Before that though, we talked about certain pen drama of old, inks that look like drinks, and the loss of one of my favorite papers. Oh, Urban is also MacGyver. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the co…
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This week, the guys get really sidetracked by school…or the process of going back to it. Also, this episode was recorded before the news about a particular pen retailer and their unfolding issues emerged. I just forgot to post this episode in a timely manner. Urban and I will probably be discussing it next episode. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Ch…
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This week, Urban is back from vacation and has been rather busy working on FPC Ink. At the time of release, I can already tell you that I regret the things I suggested in this episode. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the code “2guys”, and take advantage of some amazing deals and a site …
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This week, the guys stick to their schedule, record an episode on time, and manage to get off topic so many times that it was both really easy and really hard to pick a title for this one. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the code “2guys”, and take advantage of some amazing deals and a s…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Ellen P. Goodman, a distinguished professor of law at Rutgers Law School and former Senior Advisor for Algorithmic Justice at NTIA, U.S. Department of Commerce discusses artificial intelligence accountability policy. The podcast revolves around the NTIA AI Accountability Policy Report, which was released in Mar…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, MIT Professor Catherine Tucker discusses her research on competition policy and artificial intelligence. The discussion focuses on how AI's unique cost structures differs from that of traditional digital economics, how economists think about AI, and the implications of AI for competition policy and antitrust en…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Caroline Cecot, an associate professor of law at Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, talks about her recent article "The Meaning of ‘Silence.’" The discussion focuses on the potential consequences of narrowing the applicability of the Chevron doctrine and consequences on the major questions do…
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The latest episode of the TPI Two Think Minimum podcast featured guest Megan McArdle, discussing pressing issues at the intersection of technology and society. The podcast covered several topics related to technology, policy, and societal impact, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of the implications of technological advancements and re…
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Holy Carp! It’s two episodes in two months! Sorry for the clickbait on the last title. The podcast isn’t going anywhere. If anything, Urban and I are planning on bringing more episodes to you this year and beyond. This time around, we discuss Lamy shenanigans and I try to describe Palworld without feeling like a horrible human being. Sponsor: Pen C…
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The journey to implementing spectrum auctions was not without its challenges. Evan Kwerel shed light on the initial resistance, particularly from the broadcasting industry and legislators. Concerns about market concentration and the potential costs of spectrum use were at the forefront of the debate. Despite these hurdles, the need for government r…
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This week we talk about burnout, where we’ve been, and some things other than pens. The show notes are short for this one. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the code “2guys”, and take advantage of some amazing deals and a site wide coupon. Thank you to Pen Chalet for sponsoring 2 Guys 0 P…
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On the most recent episode of TPI's podcast "Two Think Minimum," Dr. Meicen Sun, assistant professor in the School of Information Sciences at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign joined TPI's Scott Wallsten to discuss her research on the effects of a country's decision to control international internet traffic. She finds that China's Great F…
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On the latest episode of TPI's podcast "Two Think Minimum," Xiaomeng Lu, a director at Eurasia Group, discussed the evolving dynamics of US-China relations related to technology policy with TPI's Scott Wallsten and Sarah Oh Lam. The discussion included implications of the CHIPS Act, strategic competition, semiconductor manufacturing, and the broade…
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In the most recent episode of TPI's "Two Think Minimum" podcast, Michael Katz, Professor Emeritus at the Haas School of Business & Department of Economics, joined Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten to discuss the intricacies of antitrust in light of current cases. The dialogue covered exclusionary behavior, with Katz highlighting potentia…
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This week we talk about a whole bunch of randomness from video games, to Guinea Pigs, to pens arriving late. It was a good conversation and it’s nice to see we can do one of these per month again! YAY! Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the code “2guys”, and take advantage of some amazing …
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On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, Technology Policy Institute Senior Fellow Sarah Oh Lam and President and Senior Fellow Scott Wallsten welcomed Eugene Volokh, a distinguished law professor at UCLA School of Law, to discuss his new law review article on LLMs and liability for AI output. This episode focuses on the legal implications of AI…
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Hey! It didn’t take us 7 months to get to this episode. Join us as we talk about AI, Pen Sales, Dog Fur, and other Randomness. I really don’t know why I capitalized those words, but I’m just going to run with it. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Podcast link at the top of the page. Enter the code “2guys”, and take advantage of so…
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On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, TPI President and Senior Fellow Scott Wallsten and Senior Fellow Sarah Oh Lam interviewed Google’s Head of Economic Policy Research, Dr. Guy Ben-Ishai, about the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on economic performance and policy. They delve into AI’s impacts on productivity and how the technology’s…
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Has it really been almost 7 months since the last episode?!?! I guess it has. Thank you for hanging in there during our pseudo-hiatus. I think we have a recording on the calendar here soon, so join us for this brief “what have we been doing” episode and let’s see if we can get another one in the can sooner rather than later. Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go…
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On the latest TPI Two Think Minimum podcast, Tom Lenard and Sarah Oh Lam interview John Samples from the Oversight Board about the board's policy advisory opinion on COVID-19 misinformation. The podcast covers the challenges of content moderation on a large platform like Facebook, with millions of pieces of content needing to be dealt with daily an…
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On this episode of Two Think Minimum we welcome Professor Kristina McElheran. We explore the impact of artificial intelligence and related technologies on workers, workplaces, and productivity. Dr. McElheran shares her expertise on the economics and strategic management of technological change and how digitization is changing how firms innovate and…
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On this episode of Two Think Minimum, we welcome Greg Ip, Chief Economics Commentator at the Washington Post, to discuss the topic of industrial policy. Greg shares his insights on the role of government in shaping and directing economic activity in key sectors, such as manufacturing, technology, and energy. He explores the history of industrial po…
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This episode of Two Think Minimum focuses on prediction markets and their regulation. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission recently tried to shut down Predictit, a leading prediction market, but the Fifth Circuit granted a temporary injunction to allow the site to continue operating. We interview two executives of Aristotle, the firm that incub…
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Jane Horvath joins Two Think Minimum to chat about privacy policy. She shares the serendipitous way she became a privacy expert in the early days at a technology start up. She also discusses the need for a baseline omnibus privacy law in the US. Jane recently became a partner at Gibson Dunn, where she is co-chair of the Privacy, Cybersecurity, and …
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Urban and I recorded this about 3 weeks ago now, and the episode has been done for 2.5 weeks. So why am I just now posting it? I don’t know. Well, that’s a lie, I do know, but we don’t talk about it here. Maybe that planner will do me some good! Oh yeah, Urban bought some cheap pens again too! Sponsor: Pen Chalet: Go to Pen Chalet. Click on the Pod…
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Sujit Raman discusses the current state, regulatory framework, and future of cryptocurrency with us on Two Think Minimum. Sujit is General Counsel at TRM Labs, a leading blockchain and Web3analytics company that helps organizations detect, assess, and investigate crypto related fraud and financial crime. Previously, he was a partner at Sidley Austi…
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Stuart Brotman joins Two Think Minimum to discuss the most recent Texas and Florida litigation concerning content moderation and the First Amendement. He shares ideas for creating cultural change around our nation's value of free speech. Stuart is the inaugural Howard Distinguished Endowed Professor of Media Management and Law and Beaman Professor …
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Guest Avi Goldfarb discusses AI as prediction technology likely to transform our systems over a long period of time. Goldfarb is the Rotman Chair of Artificial Intelligence and Healthcare and a Professor of Marketing at the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto. He's also Chief Data Scientist at the Creative Destruction Lab, a Fa…
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Jay Bhattacharya joins Two Think Minimum for a look at the responses of public health and economic experts to Covid-19. He asserts the need for a retrospective to learn from it, discussing his own criticisms of the professional communities. Jay is a professor of health policy at Stanford University and a research associate at the National Bureau of…
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Michael Smith joins Two Think Minimum to discuss his work on video streaming, how traditional studios adapted to technological changes, and draws parallels to the future of higher education. He argues that technological change will disrupt the standard model of higher ed, which has barely changed in centuries. He says the current system is financia…
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Michael Rosenbaum is founder and executive chairman of Catalyte, a recognized leader in onshore agile application services working with clients onsite or from development centers in Baltimore, Md. and Portland, Ore., and CEO of Arena.Prior to starting Catalyte, Mike received an Irving R. Kaufman Fellowship to build the first version of what is now …
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So, Urban and I took a bit of a break. Good news is, we hit record, talked about it, and then I didn’t delete the audio this time. Due to the massive amount of Rabbit Trails though, this episode is sans Show Notes. Urban and I both agreed it was for the best. Oh yeah, if you want to support the show and maybe even the YouTube channel, consider beco…
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Cathryn Ross is Strategy and Regulatory Affairs Director at Thames Water. She is responsible for shaping and embedding a strategy to ensure that Thames Water delivers for customers, communities and the environment. She is an experienced regulatory and competition economist and has worked across a number of different sectors advising on economic, re…
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Julie Owono is the Executive Director of Internet Sans Frontières (Internet Without Borders), an inaugural member of the Facebook Oversight Board, and the Executive Director of the Content Policy & Society Lab, a project of the Progam on Democracy and the Internet at Stanford University. At the intersection of Business and Human Rights, her work fo…
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Hey, guys! Today, we relaxed a bit and took some Buzzfeed quizzes together! Feel free to listen to our episode as background noise if you wish... we hope you enjoy listening! :) Vi's YouTube: Vi (Click for link) Denise's Spotify: @de.niseeeee (Click for link) Recorded on June 19, 2022 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/…
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