The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren't "fit" for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game. Let the fun begin!
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S4E29 - What Happens in the Barbershop
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In this episode Chris and Kyle interview Chris' former barber--John--to discuss the sacred confessional of the barbershop. We discuss why people feel so comfortable opening up to their barber, the secrets that get shared and the good-natured ribbing that takes place between a close-knit group of barbers and their regular customers. Chris admits tha…
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S4E28 - Plato's Cave - Parable of the Mysteries
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In this episode Chris delivers Opinion Scholarship on the meaning of Plato's famous Cave Allegory. He shows through the words of Plato and the ancient Greek Poet Pindar that the secret goings-on of the Eleusinian Mysteries share a hell of a lot with the experience of the prisoner freed from Plato's cave. He then posits that the secrecy surrounding …
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S4E27 - Religious Restoration and Kamala as POTUS
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In this episode Chris asks Kyle about the Indo-European influences on Judaism and Christianity and whether that impacts his personal faith. From there we pivot to a discussion of Chris' latest solo podcast entitled--Paleo Deo--on the subject of primitive monotheism. Then things get political. We discuss the libertarian and conservative revolutions …
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S4E26 - Paleo Deo - Primitive Monotheism
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In this episode Chris highlights the ideas of German Anthropologist--Wilhelm Schmidt--and makes the case for a form of Monotheism as the original expression of religious feeling and intuition. We explore Occam's Razor, look for evidence of any true historical polytheistic faiths and discuss the problem of Henotheism. We also explore the Supreme Bei…
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S4E25 - Praise and Blame with Daniel Torridon
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In this episode we cross-over with friend of the show Daniel Torridon of the Onion Unlimited podcast to talk about praise and blame. We discuss the power of positive and negative reinforcement and reflect on those peculiar memories of praise and blame that showed us a mirror of our selves or others impacted our behavior or worldview. We don't concl…
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S4E24 - Saint Hermes - Hermeticism and the Holy Scriptures
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In this episode Chris brings some Opinion Scholarship on the Greco-Egyptian tradition of Hermes Trismegistus, who bestowed great and secret wisdom upon humanity. We compare Biblical verses to the famous Hermetic dictum "As Above, So Below," and explore why a group of early Christians in Egyptian would have hid away Hermetic writings along with doze…
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S4E23 - The Assassination of Donald Trump by the Coward Matthew Crooks
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss this past weeks' attempted assassination attempt on former President Donald J. Trump. We give our "first impressions" on the media's reaction as well as the reaction of ordinary people on Twitter. We discuss the many conspiracy theories already exploding from the left and point to the great hypocrisy of the do…
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In this episode Chris is brining you Opinion Scholarship on the myth of the Great Flood. While it's widely known that the deluge story appears all over the world, from every continent, very few people ever read the original sources to see just how similar they are. Today, I have remedied that! We read through the flood account from Ovid's Metamorph…
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S4E21 - Orphic Mysteries Unveiled - The Derveni Papyrus
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Have you ever wondered what is meant by the phrase "mystery religions"? Ever wonder, just what the hell this "mystery" is? Are you frustrated by the deafening silence of the ancient writers on this subject? Titillated by the hints left by Plato and the pre-Socratics? Yeah, you're not alone. While the mysteries of Eleusis and the cults of Mithras an…
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In this episode Chris is bringing you Opinion Scholarship on the religion of the Omaha tribe, indigenous to the Ohio Valley in the United States. More specifically, on their conception of God, whom they call Wakonda and their Sioux cousins call Wakan Tanka. We explore the fascinating form of henotheism or even monotheism that the Omaha practice and…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss the first Presidential Debate of 2024--Trump v Biden. This was a difficult conversation, but we pulled no punches, calling it as we saw it. Was there a lack of substance in the debate? Yes. Did it devolve into ad hominems and name calling? Of course, it did. But did we learn anything we didn't already know? We…
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In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the virgin prophetesses of Ancient Greece--the Sibyls. We discuss first-hand spiritual and mystical experiences versus communal one's like those embodied in organized religions, and how they fit together. From here we turn to shamanism and the mystery cults of the ancient world and describe the…
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S4E17 - Walter Russell and the Universal One
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This episode was inspired by Terrance Howard's recent conversation with Joe Rogan on the JRE podcast (episode 2152), where Terrance proposes a new understanding of science, which could resolve the mysteries of modern physics. He introduces the work of Walter Russell, American artist, author and mystic would wrote extensively on this new science. In…
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S4E16 - Andrew Wilson vs Dave Smith Breakdown
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss The Crucible debate between Paleo-Conservative Andrew Wilson and Libertarian Dave Smith. We highlight the key arguments they tackle surrounding the meaning of "ownership," the application of the "non-aggression principle" and just how closely aligned Libertarian's are to Leftists. We suggest some alternate pat…
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S4E15 - Darryl Cooper and the New Jerusalem
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss an absolutely classic history podcast series entitled Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem by Darryl Cooper of the Martyr Made podcast. This one goes back to 2015, but given the actively raging Israeli-Gaza conflict circa 2024, it seems well worth a re-visit. We discuss the many historical facts about the hi…
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In this episode Chris discusses an episode of the YouTube channel "Mr. Mythos" entitled "Evidence YHWH was a Dragon." We examine the prominent role dragons hold in world mythology and explore evidence in the Bible that describes God as a dragon. We then expand on Mr. Mythos' work to incorporate Jordan Peterson's discussion of the Babylonian "dragon…
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S4E13 - The Origins of the World's Mythologies
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In this episode Chris explores Professor E.J. Michael Witzel's theory on the source and origin of all the mythologies of the world. A single explanation? Yes, indeed! Witzel uses a historical approach to comparative religion, aided by the latest in linguistic, archeological and DNA evidence to trace the myths of the world back to two distinct group…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a month of scheduling conflicts. We discuss the solo content each of us produced in the interim, including Kyle's episode with his Eastern Orthodox friends and Chris' piece on Jesus as a "shapeshifter." We catch-up on just about everything else: discussing HBO's latest season of "True Detective," whether…
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In this episode Chris explores what it means to be a 'Shaman' and how the term relates to the great world religions of the modern day. He asks the questions: Is a priest, technically, a Shaman? What about a Prophet? What about Jesus Christ? And this last question takes us on a journey through long-lost Christian scriptures, folklore, Paleolithic ca…
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S4E10 - Angels, Spirits and Gods with a Lowercase 'g'
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In this episode Chris riffs on whether or not angels and demons actually exist. He asks the question, just what the hell is an angel or a demon? How do these ideas from our monotheistic traditions compare to the older, classical idea of 'gods' with a lowercase 'g', or to the even older animistic idea of the 'spirits of nature'? Lastly he tries to e…
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S4E9 - The First Men - Europe's Myths Before Indo-European Migration
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In this episode we examine a myth from the Basque people of Spain and France. Why? Because I love stories, but also because the Basque people are unique among the ethnicities, cultures and languages of Europe. They do not descend from the Indo-European migration, which so heavily influenced the rest of Europe and do not speak an Indo-European langu…
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S4E8 - Graham, Rogan and Dibble's Sleeves
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In this episode Chris and Kyle conduct a post-mortem on episode 2136 of the Joe Rogan Experience where Graham Hancock finally gets to defend his ideas of a forgotten civilization against a mainstream archeologist. Enjoy ;)By twotonguespodcast
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after an extra week's hiatus...and they had lots to talk about! We cover Kyle's recent experience as a debate moderator on The Crucible and Chris' latest solo episode on the book Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. But we don't stop there. We hash out a theological disagreement about the origin of religi…
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In this episode Chris presents Opinion Scholarship on an influential book by a Christian Orthodox Father--Seraphim Rose--titled Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. This exploration was sparked by Kyle's interest in Eastern Orthodox Christianity and on the recommendation of an Orthodox friend of the show--Jason Mironchuck--of the 2Bit Podcast.…
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S4E5 - Ashtavakra Gita, The Heart of Awareness
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In this episode Chris brings you Opinion Scholarship on a Hindu holy book called the Ashtavakra Gita, which expounds the non-dual philosophy of the Upanishads and Advaita Vedanta. This text is profound and poetic, but as good as it is in describing the nature of God, it fails in other ways to account for the realities of the world and our place in …
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This episode originally aired March, 24th on the Onion Unlimited Podcast. It was another classic chat between Chris and Daniel Torridon on the nature of God and of spirit. We discuss the mythological motif of the "Silver Cord" (Ecclesiastes 12:5-7) or "Silver Thread" (Greco-Roman Moirai), which is said to bind the divine spirit to the material body…
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S4E3 - The Spirit of the Vengeful Son with Jason Mironchuck
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In this episode Kyle and Chris chat with Jason Mironchuck of the 2Bit Podcast about a shift in the societal zeitgeist. We all feel that change is in the air. It's both fearful and hopeful. We discuss the archetype that best describes the totalitarianism and warful nationalism of the 20th century--the Tyrannical Father--and our current age of both g…
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In this episode we attempt to redeem the ideas of the physicist Amit Goswami who made a strong impression on Chris (and even inspired the podcast's logo), but had a terrible showing on the Joe Rogan Experience back in 2013 (JRE 334), sabotaging his opportunity for broader appeal. His ideas may not have hit the mainstream, but his book The Self Awar…
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One part alternative history, one part social commentary, we kick off season 4 with an exploration of Asha Logos' YouTube channel entitled "Our Subverted History." This one is where common sense intersects with political correctness. We discuss Indo-European as a historical ethnic and linguistic family and how it's been maligned by modern notions o…
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In this episode Chris explores Charles Darwin's great work "The Origin of Species" and asks the question: Was Darwin an atheist? We explore Charles Darwin's influences, including his infamous grandfather--Erasmus Darwin--and dig into unexpected quotes from the book. Did you know Charles Darwin used the term 'The Creator' in the book? Did you know h…
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In this episode Chris discusses a document from 1980's which exposed a U.S. Military program called "The Gateway Process," aimed at harnessing such extrasensory phenomena as "remote viewing." We all know the world of espionage is dark and cut-throat, but when it comes packaged up in the language of biochemistry and quantum physics, it's got my atte…
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In this episode Chris explores the mathematical patterns behind forms in nature. We discuss the Mandelbrot Set and Vortex Math and a strange phenomena that connects them--the Cartoid? What is a Cartoid? What does it represent? Are there mystical parallels? How about natural ones? You betcha! Strap in for a myth that describes how the infinite can b…
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S3E54 - Dispensaries, Awe and the Mysteries of Nature
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In this episode Chris and Kyle reconnect after the holiday break. We reminisce about nearly 3 years of podcasting, discuss the strange realities of incorporating cannabis dispensaries in our towns and cities and ponder the meaning of the awe experience. Enjoy ;)By twotonguespodcast
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This episode concludes our exploration of the religious philosophy of Walter Stace. We discuss the difference between first-hand religious experience and the second-hand version we commonly call organized religion. We explore how religious symbols are used to evoke first-hand religious experience and thereby preserve the value of organized religion…
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S3E52 - Time and Eternity Part Deux
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In this episode we continue exploring the philosopher Walter Stace's book "Time and Eternity." In this one we focus on the other half of the religious paradox; what Stace calls the Positive Divine. We discuss what it means to know the unknowable and how that can be achieved. We discuss the role of symbols and contemplate whether the world of our ex…
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In this episode Chris introduces us to Walter Stace, Princeton professor of philosophy from the turn of the century who believed personal, mystic experience is the origin of all religions. We focus on what Stace calls the "Negative Divine," to understand how God must "be" and "not be" simultaneously; how God must be a paradox, a contradiction. How …
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a month off. We compare various types of psychedelic experiences and their religious implications. Chris focuses on the "meaning" or "messages" these experiences are commonly held to provide. Then we pivot to a discussion of Jonathan Pageau's new show on The Daily Wire called "The End of The World" and C…
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In this episode we read the surviving fragments of the philosophy of Empedocles and explore the shamanistic and mystical foundations of Western thought. Empedocles carries on the Orphic and Pythagorean tradition in his quest for Ultimate Reality, for which Aristotle grants him the title of 'Natural Philosopher'. But a strange kind of natural philos…
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In this episode we explore the fragments of the works of Parmenides that survive to modern times, with a focus on the mystical, shamanistic tradition expressed in them. In Parmenides, like Pythagoras before him, we find a mystic seeking a personal experience of the divine; we also find an honest-to-God Shaman, who visits the divine realm, speaks to…
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In this episode we take a break from religion and current events to reminisce with our old friend Matthew from "Ohio Toy Kick." We discuss old times, the state of art and creativity in modern America, music, professional wrestling, and, of course, Matthew's artistic expression in the form of toy photography. Don't knock it 'til you've seen it. The …
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S3E46 - C.S. Lewis in Space Part 2 - Perelandra
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In this episode we tackle the second novel in C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy. We explore Venus as a new and innocent paradise, meet the mirror or our primordial Mother--Eve--and get to watch as she's tempted by the Devil. But this time...this time, there's another presence in the garden, our hero--Elwin Ransom--and he's hungry for serpent! Lewis weaves …
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S3E45 - Semiotics, Symbology and a Couple of Langdon’s
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In this episode Chris reunites with good friend of the show--Daniel Torridon of the Onion Unlimited Podcast. We had a blast assuming a Robert Langdon persona and delivering the most epic exploration of religious symbols known to mankind. Enjoy ;)By twotonguespodcast
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In this episode Kyle and Chris host professional trauma counselor Ross Hyslop, all the way from across the pond and through the misty moors of Scotland. A long-time fan of the podcast, Ross, not only reached out to make our connection reciprocal, but journeyed to Cleveland to join us in our studio in-person. We talk about his background, Cognitive …
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reconnect after 2 weeks. We catch up on current events, but not before reminiscing about the 2000s Pop Punk scene and exploring ethnic stereotypes. We then culminate with a discussion of the current Israeli-Gaza conflict, demonstrating the importance of history and the destructive power of revenge. Enjoy ;)…
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This episode rounds out our exploration of Ed Edinger's "Psyche in Antiquity." We cover 200 years of Greek thought from Anaxagoras to Zeno, focusing on their cosmological ideas and chasing the "arche." This chase becomes a Jungian circumambulation around the idea of incarnation. Mind, Form and Soul are all said to incarnate into matter or as matter…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a long hiatus. Two Tongues once again! We talk C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy, touch on Russell Brand and Danny Masterson, drink a few beers and be merry. Join us won't you?By twotonguespodcast
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S3E40 - Seeking the Arche - When Philosophy was Mysticism
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In this episode we track the first 100 years of Pre-Socratic philosophy with an eye toward it's insights into human psychology and the origins of religion. We take this tour with the great Jungian psychologist Edward Edinger, through his book "The Psyche in Antiquity." From Thales to Parmenides we trace their search for the "Arche," the generative …
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S3E39 - C.S. Lewis in Space - Out of the Silent Planet
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In this episode we discuss the first book in C.S. Lewis' little-known "Space Trilogy" titled--Out of the Silent Planet. We discuss Lewis' relationship with JRR Tolkien and their united effort to publish powerful myths for the modern age. I treat this book as a fairytale and analysis it Von Franz-style to uncloak the religious and mythological symbo…
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S3E38 - Dualism and Free Will with Daniel Torridon
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This episode was a livestream interview on the Onion Unlimited Podcast from 9/10. Daniel Torridon, host of Onion Unlimited, is a long-time friend of the show and a regular guest. In this one we catch up after many months and discuss what we've explored since our last discussion. I choose the topic of "Dualism" and speak about body and soul; Daniel …
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In this episode we round out our Return to Edinger series and his book Ego and Archetype with a discussion of blood and alchemy. We talk about blood as a symbol for life and the carrier of consciousness. We explore the connections to religious sacrifice, the cult of Dionysus and, of course, the blood of Christ. From here we pivot to the mysteries o…
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