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The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren't "fit" for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game. Let the fun begin!
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In this episode Chris is bringing you Opinion Scholarship on the religion of the Omaha tribe, indigenous to the Ohio Valley in the United States. More specifically, on their conception of God, whom they call Wakonda and their Sioux cousins call Wakan Tanka. We explore the fascinating form of henotheism or even monotheism that the Omaha practice and…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss the first Presidential Debate of 2024--Trump v Biden. This was a difficult conversation, but we pulled no punches, calling it as we saw it. Was there a lack of substance in the debate? Yes. Did it devolve into ad hominems and name calling? Of course, it did. But did we learn anything we didn't already know? We…
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In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the virgin prophetesses of Ancient Greece--the Sibyls. We discuss first-hand spiritual and mystical experiences versus communal one's like those embodied in organized religions, and how they fit together. From here we turn to shamanism and the mystery cults of the ancient world and describe the…
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This episode was inspired by Terrance Howard's recent conversation with Joe Rogan on the JRE podcast (episode 2152), where Terrance proposes a new understanding of science, which could resolve the mysteries of modern physics. He introduces the work of Walter Russell, American artist, author and mystic would wrote extensively on this new science. In…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss The Crucible debate between Paleo-Conservative Andrew Wilson and Libertarian Dave Smith. We highlight the key arguments they tackle surrounding the meaning of "ownership," the application of the "non-aggression principle" and just how closely aligned Libertarian's are to Leftists. We suggest some alternate pat…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss an absolutely classic history podcast series entitled Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem by Darryl Cooper of the Martyr Made podcast. This one goes back to 2015, but given the actively raging Israeli-Gaza conflict circa 2024, it seems well worth a re-visit. We discuss the many historical facts about the hi…
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In this episode Chris discusses an episode of the YouTube channel "Mr. Mythos" entitled "Evidence YHWH was a Dragon." We examine the prominent role dragons hold in world mythology and explore evidence in the Bible that describes God as a dragon. We then expand on Mr. Mythos' work to incorporate Jordan Peterson's discussion of the Babylonian "dragon…
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In this episode Chris explores Professor E.J. Michael Witzel's theory on the source and origin of all the mythologies of the world. A single explanation? Yes, indeed! Witzel uses a historical approach to comparative religion, aided by the latest in linguistic, archeological and DNA evidence to trace the myths of the world back to two distinct group…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a month of scheduling conflicts. We discuss the solo content each of us produced in the interim, including Kyle's episode with his Eastern Orthodox friends and Chris' piece on Jesus as a "shapeshifter." We catch-up on just about everything else: discussing HBO's latest season of "True Detective," whether…
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In this episode Chris explores what it means to be a 'Shaman' and how the term relates to the great world religions of the modern day. He asks the questions: Is a priest, technically, a Shaman? What about a Prophet? What about Jesus Christ? And this last question takes us on a journey through long-lost Christian scriptures, folklore, Paleolithic ca…
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In this episode Chris riffs on whether or not angels and demons actually exist. He asks the question, just what the hell is an angel or a demon? How do these ideas from our monotheistic traditions compare to the older, classical idea of 'gods' with a lowercase 'g', or to the even older animistic idea of the 'spirits of nature'? Lastly he tries to e…
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In this episode we examine a myth from the Basque people of Spain and France. Why? Because I love stories, but also because the Basque people are unique among the ethnicities, cultures and languages of Europe. They do not descend from the Indo-European migration, which so heavily influenced the rest of Europe and do not speak an Indo-European langu…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after an extra week's hiatus...and they had lots to talk about! We cover Kyle's recent experience as a debate moderator on The Crucible and Chris' latest solo episode on the book Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. But we don't stop there. We hash out a theological disagreement about the origin of religi…
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In this episode Chris presents Opinion Scholarship on an influential book by a Christian Orthodox Father--Seraphim Rose--titled Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. This exploration was sparked by Kyle's interest in Eastern Orthodox Christianity and on the recommendation of an Orthodox friend of the show--Jason Mironchuck--of the 2Bit Podcast.…
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In this episode Chris brings you Opinion Scholarship on a Hindu holy book called the Ashtavakra Gita, which expounds the non-dual philosophy of the Upanishads and Advaita Vedanta. This text is profound and poetic, but as good as it is in describing the nature of God, it fails in other ways to account for the realities of the world and our place in …
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This episode originally aired March, 24th on the Onion Unlimited Podcast. It was another classic chat between Chris and Daniel Torridon on the nature of God and of spirit. We discuss the mythological motif of the "Silver Cord" (Ecclesiastes 12:5-7) or "Silver Thread" (Greco-Roman Moirai), which is said to bind the divine spirit to the material body…
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In this episode Kyle and Chris chat with Jason Mironchuck of the 2Bit Podcast about a shift in the societal zeitgeist. We all feel that change is in the air. It's both fearful and hopeful. We discuss the archetype that best describes the totalitarianism and warful nationalism of the 20th century--the Tyrannical Father--and our current age of both g…
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In this episode we attempt to redeem the ideas of the physicist Amit Goswami who made a strong impression on Chris (and even inspired the podcast's logo), but had a terrible showing on the Joe Rogan Experience back in 2013 (JRE 334), sabotaging his opportunity for broader appeal. His ideas may not have hit the mainstream, but his book The Self Awar…
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One part alternative history, one part social commentary, we kick off season 4 with an exploration of Asha Logos' YouTube channel entitled "Our Subverted History." This one is where common sense intersects with political correctness. We discuss Indo-European as a historical ethnic and linguistic family and how it's been maligned by modern notions o…
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In this episode Chris explores Charles Darwin's great work "The Origin of Species" and asks the question: Was Darwin an atheist? We explore Charles Darwin's influences, including his infamous grandfather--Erasmus Darwin--and dig into unexpected quotes from the book. Did you know Charles Darwin used the term 'The Creator' in the book? Did you know h…
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In this episode Chris discusses a document from 1980's which exposed a U.S. Military program called "The Gateway Process," aimed at harnessing such extrasensory phenomena as "remote viewing." We all know the world of espionage is dark and cut-throat, but when it comes packaged up in the language of biochemistry and quantum physics, it's got my atte…
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In this episode Chris explores the mathematical patterns behind forms in nature. We discuss the Mandelbrot Set and Vortex Math and a strange phenomena that connects them--the Cartoid? What is a Cartoid? What does it represent? Are there mystical parallels? How about natural ones? You betcha! Strap in for a myth that describes how the infinite can b…
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This episode concludes our exploration of the religious philosophy of Walter Stace. We discuss the difference between first-hand religious experience and the second-hand version we commonly call organized religion. We explore how religious symbols are used to evoke first-hand religious experience and thereby preserve the value of organized religion…
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In this episode we continue exploring the philosopher Walter Stace's book "Time and Eternity." In this one we focus on the other half of the religious paradox; what Stace calls the Positive Divine. We discuss what it means to know the unknowable and how that can be achieved. We discuss the role of symbols and contemplate whether the world of our ex…
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In this episode Chris introduces us to Walter Stace, Princeton professor of philosophy from the turn of the century who believed personal, mystic experience is the origin of all religions. We focus on what Stace calls the "Negative Divine," to understand how God must "be" and "not be" simultaneously; how God must be a paradox, a contradiction. How …
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a month off. We compare various types of psychedelic experiences and their religious implications. Chris focuses on the "meaning" or "messages" these experiences are commonly held to provide. Then we pivot to a discussion of Jonathan Pageau's new show on The Daily Wire called "The End of The World" and C…
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In this episode we read the surviving fragments of the philosophy of Empedocles and explore the shamanistic and mystical foundations of Western thought. Empedocles carries on the Orphic and Pythagorean tradition in his quest for Ultimate Reality, for which Aristotle grants him the title of 'Natural Philosopher'. But a strange kind of natural philos…
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In this episode we explore the fragments of the works of Parmenides that survive to modern times, with a focus on the mystical, shamanistic tradition expressed in them. In Parmenides, like Pythagoras before him, we find a mystic seeking a personal experience of the divine; we also find an honest-to-God Shaman, who visits the divine realm, speaks to…
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In this episode we take a break from religion and current events to reminisce with our old friend Matthew from "Ohio Toy Kick." We discuss old times, the state of art and creativity in modern America, music, professional wrestling, and, of course, Matthew's artistic expression in the form of toy photography. Don't knock it 'til you've seen it. The …
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In this episode we tackle the second novel in C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy. We explore Venus as a new and innocent paradise, meet the mirror or our primordial Mother--Eve--and get to watch as she's tempted by the Devil. But this time...this time, there's another presence in the garden, our hero--Elwin Ransom--and he's hungry for serpent! Lewis weaves …
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In this episode Kyle and Chris host professional trauma counselor Ross Hyslop, all the way from across the pond and through the misty moors of Scotland. A long-time fan of the podcast, Ross, not only reached out to make our connection reciprocal, but journeyed to Cleveland to join us in our studio in-person. We talk about his background, Cognitive …
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In this episode Kyle and Chris reconnect after 2 weeks. We catch up on current events, but not before reminiscing about the 2000s Pop Punk scene and exploring ethnic stereotypes. We then culminate with a discussion of the current Israeli-Gaza conflict, demonstrating the importance of history and the destructive power of revenge. Enjoy ;)…
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This episode rounds out our exploration of Ed Edinger's "Psyche in Antiquity." We cover 200 years of Greek thought from Anaxagoras to Zeno, focusing on their cosmological ideas and chasing the "arche." This chase becomes a Jungian circumambulation around the idea of incarnation. Mind, Form and Soul are all said to incarnate into matter or as matter…
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In this episode we track the first 100 years of Pre-Socratic philosophy with an eye toward it's insights into human psychology and the origins of religion. We take this tour with the great Jungian psychologist Edward Edinger, through his book "The Psyche in Antiquity." From Thales to Parmenides we trace their search for the "Arche," the generative …
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In this episode we discuss the first book in C.S. Lewis' little-known "Space Trilogy" titled--Out of the Silent Planet. We discuss Lewis' relationship with JRR Tolkien and their united effort to publish powerful myths for the modern age. I treat this book as a fairytale and analysis it Von Franz-style to uncloak the religious and mythological symbo…
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This episode was a livestream interview on the Onion Unlimited Podcast from 9/10. Daniel Torridon, host of Onion Unlimited, is a long-time friend of the show and a regular guest. In this one we catch up after many months and discuss what we've explored since our last discussion. I choose the topic of "Dualism" and speak about body and soul; Daniel …
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In this episode we round out our Return to Edinger series and his book Ego and Archetype with a discussion of blood and alchemy. We talk about blood as a symbol for life and the carrier of consciousness. We explore the connections to religious sacrifice, the cult of Dionysus and, of course, the blood of Christ. From here we pivot to the mysteries o…
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This episode is Part 3 of our "Return to Edinger" series on his book Ego and Archetype. In this one we discuss what it means to be an "individual" and explore the age-old philosophical paradox of "the One and the many." We cover Pythagorean number symbolism, the Christian Trinity and how they tie in to Carl Jung's psychology of the Unconscious. Enj…
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This is part 2 in the "Return to Edinger" series where we discuss his book Ego and Archetype. In this one, we discuss the difference between 'signs' and 'symbols' in order to understand what an 'Archetype' is. With this accomplished, we go on to show how Jesus' words from the Gospels can be understood psychologically...and how Jesus himself can be …
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In this episode Chris discusses a mysterious stone monument that was erected in Zurich, Switzerland with strange and cryptic inscriptions carved into it. While older, this monument shares several features in common with another mysterious monument called the Georgia Guidestones. Both contain strange messages, written in both ancient and modern lang…
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As the title suggests, we're returning to Edward Edinger for this episode, exploring his book "Ego & Archetype." We explore natural psychological development and how the stages of development influence our understanding of God and its expression in religion and myth. We explore the possibility of encountering the "Self," the fullness of our psyche …
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In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the philosopher David Hume thorough his "Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion". Just as Hume famously asked "can we derive an ought from an is?" here he asks: Is there anything about the facts of the world that can tell us anything about God? Does God exist? If so, how? What does God want? Doe…
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In this episode Chris explores 2 questions, which have been haunting him. The first: Is there a difference between what we ARE and what we Do? The second: Is there a difference between WHAT we are and WHO we are? We squeeze mysticism, theology, quantum mechanics and logic all into this 20 minute monologue. What could go wrong? Enjoy ;)…
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In this episode we bring you more Opinion Scholarship...this time on one of the primary and most mysterious works of Christian Mysticism--The Cloud of Unknowing. Its mystery comes from the fact that its author is unknown and that, while borderline heretical, it has survived in Catholic and Orthodox Christianity to this day. This work is unique in t…
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In this episode Chris brings us more Opinion Scholarship; this time on the great Astrophysicist Arthur Eddington's lecture--Science and the Unseen World. We hear Eddington's critique of the scientific method and its insufficiencies in exploring the non-physical aspects of our reality. He provides a defense of religious experience as well as a new p…
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In this episode Chris finishes off his Opinion Scholarship on Alan Watts book Beyond Theology. He focuses in on the meaning of sacrifice from a Hindu and Christian prospective, their respective religious practices and how they create two uniquely different paths to spiritual awakening. In the end, Alan Watts proposes a new interpretation of Christi…
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