Best Warren Throckmorton Podcasts (2024)

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What's So Good About Separation of Church and State? 44:00

5d ago44:00

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Often debates focus on Christian nationalism and the problems which come from blurring the line between church and state. In this episode, I end the Telling Jefferson Lies series with some thoughts and testimony from experts about what is good about separation. Helping me close out the series are: Randall Balmer, John Phillips Chair in Religion, Da…

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The O'Connor Question 56:54

19d ago56:54

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In 2005, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor asked an important question for those who would erode separation of church and state: "Why would we trade a system that has served us so well for one that has served others so poorly? " I spend much of this episode affirming that we should not trade. Much of this series has been raising alarm about Christian nat…

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Losing Our Religion 50:44

13d ago50:44

50:44

In this segment, I argue that Christian nationalism is bad for religion in general and bad for Christianity in the specific case. This segment sets up the finale which argues that separation of church and state is a benefit to the United States and should be strengthened. If you like experts and multiple voices, this is the segment for you. Here is…

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110: Jason Kirk: Hell is a World Without You and Nevaeh is Just Heaven Spelled Backwards 1:13:02

13d ago1:13:02

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Burn this episode to the top blank CD on your spindle and throw it in your anti-skip discman, because writer and podcaster Jason Kirk joins the VCW hall to talk about his new novel, Hell is a World Without You, a coming-of-age story set in early 2000s evangelical youth group culture, and chock full of the rapture anxiety, purity culture, retreats, …

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America is Not a Christian Nation - Bonus Episode with Randall Balmer 11:04

15d ago11:04

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In this short bonus episode, Dartmouth College professor Randall Balmer provides an introduction to reasons why he doesn't see the U.S. as a Christian nation. Dr. Balmer is the John Phillips Chair in Religion at Dartmouth College. He has spoken at numerous colleges and universities, including where I met him, Grove City College. Balmer has publishe…

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Consequences of Christian Nationalism 54:32

1M ago54:32

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In general terms, I believe Christian nationalism is bad history, bad politics, and bad religion. In prior episodes, I have concentrated on the bad history. In this segment and the next, I focus mainly on the bad politics. Around the world, religious nationalism is associated with state sponsored violence against citizens, use of force to take poli…

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Sally Hemings Bonus Episode, Whitewashing Jefferson, Part Three 23:14

29d ago23:14

23:14

As promised, here is the completion of my examination of David Barton's whitewashing of Thomas Jefferson. In our book Getting Jefferson Right: Fact-Checking Claims About Thomas Jefferson, Michael Coulter and I assume the position held by most scholars and the Thomas Jefferson Foundation when it comes to the paternity of Sally Hemings children, i.e.…

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109: The Ballot and the Bible: Kaitlyn Schiess 1:03:31

1M ago1:03:31

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Co-Host of the Holy Post podcast, Kaitlyn Schiess stops by the VCW hall to talk about her new book, The Ballot and the Bible. She discusses points of American history and how the Bible was interpreted on multiple sides of an issue by Christians- sometimes for good, sometimes for bad, and sometimes for really ugly evil. Support the show on Patreon: …

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The True Story of the False Origins of the Seven Mountains Message - Bonus Episode 31:18

2M ago31:18

31:18

This supplements episode 10, Still Searching for Christian America, Part Two. You can listen to this first, but I definitely encourage you to go back and catch up if you do. Everybody in Christian nationalism is talking about the seven mountains message. The message is at the root of much violent rhetoric coming from Christian nationalists but acco…

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Still Searching for Christian America, Part Two 49:58

1M ago49:58

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Note: Earlier versions of this segment had a low quality version of a speech by Jerry Falwell. The audio problem has been corrected. In this episode, I describe the National Prayer Breakfast movement, right-wing Christian nationalists, Reconstructionists, and non-denominational charismatic Christian nationalists. My guests for this episode are: Jul…

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108: Jewish Voices for Peace: Dr. Alice Rothchild and Abby Brockman 1:10:34

1M ago1:10:34

1:10:34

With Israel's brutal war against Gaza still raging, Dr. Alice Rothchild and Abby Brockman join the VCW hall to talk about the horror of Israel's war, to talk about their interactions with Palestinian people and the hospitality they experienced as well as speaking about their perspectives on Jewish faith and values. Read Dr. Rothchild's articles: Th…

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Still Searching for Christian America, Part One 44:41

2M ago44:41

44:41

In 1983, Mark Noll, Nathan Hatch, and George Marsden published a book titled The Search for Christian America. They concluded that there was nothing uniquely Christian in the founding of the United States and there is no Christian America to which to return. In this episode, both Drs. Noll and Marsden join me to say they believe today they were rig…

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Wolfe in Wolf's Clothing 49:47

2M ago49:47

49:47

Stephen Wolfe's book The Case for Christian Nationalism ignited a firestorm of controversy when it was released in 2022. In the book, Wolfe calls for revolt against tyranny and for Christians to mobilize at the state and local level to enact self-conscious Christian governments. In principle, according to Wolfe, Christian state's could use violence…

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107: Theologizin' Bigger With Trey Ferguson 1:04:59

2M ago1:04:59

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Pastor Trey Ferguson joins the VCW hall to talk about Theologizin' Bigger, his new book out now. We talk about theology and imagination, Biblical inerrancy including the 1978 Chicago statement, an Ark in Kentucky and much more. Get Pastor Trey's book right here: https://www.lakedrivebooks.com/books/theologizin-bigger/ Listen to The New Living Treys…

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The Capitol Tour Explained - Bonus Episode 28:09

2M ago28:09

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SHOW NOTES: This bonus episode is a supplement to Conspiracy of Silence (Episode Seven of Telling Jefferson Lies). It provides the audio of the Family Research Council Capitol Tour led by David Barton followed by the the response of 35 historians and social scientists who, in 2013, asked FRC to remove the video from social media. You can watch the …

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106: Our Favorite Movies of 2023 Part 2 with Jeffrey Overstreet and Dr Mary McCampbell 1:54:34

2M ago1:54:34

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Part 2 of the big annual pre-Oscars dive into our favorite movies of the year and the Oscar nominees. Part 2 covers the top 7 films on each our our top 10 lists, which we'd started going through toward the end of Part 1. Jeffrey Overstreet returns and brings with him new VCW guest Dr Mary McCampbell, an author, professor, and speaker who focuses on…

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Conspiracy of Silence 48:20

2M ago48:20

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After David Barton's book The Jefferson Lies was pulled from publication in August, 2012, some Christian organizations wrote critical articles and publicly distanced themselves from Barton and Wallbuilders. Other groups some were caught off guard. The leaders of these groups knew they had false and misleading material being offered to their constit…

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105: Our Favorite Movies of 2023 Part 1 with Jeffrey Overstreet and Dr Mary McCampbell 1:33:52

2M ago1:33:52

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Our big annual pre-Oscars dive into our favorite movies of the year and the Oscar nominees is back! Jeffrey Overstreet returns and brings with him new VCW guest Dr Mary McCampbell, an author, professor, and speaker who focuses on the theological significance of popular music, film, and literature. Subscribe to Mary's Substack The Empathetic Imagina…

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Whitewashing Jefferson, Part Two 47:38

2M ago47:38

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This is a continuation of last week's episode on whitewashing Jefferson. Today, we specifically take on Barton's contention that Jefferson was a civil rights hero for African Americans and was a strong anti-slavery advocate during his entire life. In fact, after 1784, Jefferson's promising beginning as an opponent of slavery faded away. While he co…

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Whitewashing Jefferson, Part One 45:09

3M ago45:09

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Why did Thomas Nelson pull David Barton's book The Jefferson Lies from publication in 2012? Last week, we started to answer that question. This week we continue to provide specific illustrations of the historical errors which triggered that unprecedented move by Thomas Nelson. In this episode, we focus on the errors regarding race and slavery. We s…

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104: Warren Throckmorton on David Barton's Christian Nationalist Lies 1:04:09

3M ago1:04:09

1:04:09

Warren Throckmorton returns to the VCW hall to talk about his new podcast Telling Jefferson Lies, a companion to the recently released updated version of his 2012 book with Michael Coulter, Getting Jefferson Right. We talk about the conservative pseudo-historian David Barton, and how he distorts history to uphold and further a White Christian Natio…

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God's Honest Truth - Bonus Episode 25:25

3M ago25:25

25:25

Since the founding era, Christian nationalists have told and believed myths about the founders and their religious views. Paul Matzko, historian and researcher with the Cato Institute and Anna Berkes, librarian at Monticello's Jefferson Library talk to me about the persistence of these stories throughout the history of the U.S. Then, I fact-check a…

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103: Mason Mennenga Sinks Into the Youth Group Couch 1:10:09

3M ago1:10:09

1:10:09

Dave reveals that he has moved from "still an evangelical" to "committed Christian", and Mason Mennenga joins the show to talk about process theology, being funny online, heavy Christian music, purity culture, and of course, Veggie Tales. Follow Mason Mennenga and get into his work including podcasts, YouTube videos and more by going to his website…

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Getting Jefferson Right 44:24

3M ago44:24

44:24

What was so wrong with The Jefferson Lies that Thomas Nelson decided to pull the book from publication? In this episode, Michael Coulter and Warren Throckmorton start answering that question by pulling material from their book, Getting Jefferson Right. In this episode, we take long looks into Barton’s handling of the Danbury Baptist letter to Thoma…

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102: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: Dr. Leah Payne 1:07:10

3M ago1:07:10

1:07:10

Dr Leah Payne joins the show to talk about the her brand new book God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music. Also, Zach reveals the results of his research into exactly when and where in Disneyland Carman became a Christian. Buy Leah's book: https://www.amazon.com/God-Gave-Rock-Roll-You/dp/0197555241 Support the show …

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The Cataclysm 56:52

3M ago56:52

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In 2012, only four months after release, publisher Thomas Nelson removed David Barton's book The Jefferson Lies from publication. Many people blamed or credited a book by Warren Throckmorton and Michael Coulter titled Getting Jefferson Right for moving the publisher in that direction. What happened? Building on the foundation of the first two episo…

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Where's Waldo the Anointed? 43:27

3M ago43:27

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"You know, he is the where's Waldo of the movement. He's a little bit everywhere." Katherine Stewart, author of Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Christian Nationalism. "He's managed to create a kind of brand in a way for himself through Wallbuilders of being a trusted authority on the American past." Randall Stephens, professor of Am…

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America's Premier Historian: Origin Story 51:09

4M ago51:09

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In April 2012, Thomas Nelson published The Jefferson Lies, a book about Thomas Jefferson written by David Barton. By August of the same year, the publisher had removed the book from publication. What happened? This series tells that story and so much more. Just over a decade later, the Speaker of the House of Representatives declared his thanks to …

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Telling Jefferson Lies Preview: January 6 Edition 3:37

4M ago3:37

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Telling Jefferson Lies not only documents the role of revisionist history in the maintenance of Christian nationalism, it addresses what Christian nationalism is about. This weekend seems like a good time to preview that aspect of the series. The series starts in two weeks with a look at the origin story of America's Premier Historian, followed by …

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Preview of Telling Jefferson Lies 4:17

5M ago4:17

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A brief preview of the upcoming series Telling Jefferson Lies. Telling Jefferson Lies chronicles how history can be hijacked for ideological and political purposes. We begin with the extraordinary story of how David Barton’s best-selling book about Thomas Jefferson was pulled from publication due to historical errors. After telling that backstory, …

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101: Holly Jolly X'masu and Christmas Underground: Scott Leopold and Jim Goodwin 1:07:51

5M ago1:07:51

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Niche Christmas music enthusiasts Scott Leopold of the Japanese Christmas music podcast "Holly Jolly X'masu" and Jim Goodwin of the contemporary indie rock Christmas music blog "Christmas Underground" help spread some Christmas cheer around the VCW hall by podcasting loud for all to hear. Scott shares a couple of his favorite songs he's covered on …

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Introduction to Telling Jefferson Lies 2:31

5M ago2:31

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This is the first teaser/trailer for the podcast series which begins in January, 2024. Show Notes: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill by Christianity Today, hosted by Mike Cosper, from Episode 11, The Tempest. https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/tempest-mars-hill-driscoll.html. Music by Warren Throckmorton For more …

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100: Leaving the Fold with Dr Marlene Winell 1:10:17

5M ago1:10:17

1:10:17

Dr. Marlene Winell is the author of the highly influential book Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion, and originated the term "Religious Trauma Syndrome", which she defined as "the condition experienced by people who are struggling with leaving an authoritarian, dogmatic religion and coping with the…

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099: Dave White of Linoleum Knife on Fundamentalism, Coming Out, Movies, and Christmas 1:28:01

6M ago1:28:01

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Dave White, co-host of the movie podcast Linoleum Knife, visits the VCW to talk about his background with Evangelical Christianity and coming out. We discuss some of his favoritie movies of the year (so far) and also Christmas. Listen to the Linoleum Knife podcast right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/id/podcast/linoleum-knife/id403079737 Linoleum…

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098: Chris and Mendi Tackett are For Public Schools and Against Christian Nationalism 1:13:10

6M ago1:13:10

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Advocates for education, Chris and Mendi Tackett join the VCW hall to talk about current attempts to weaken and dismantle the public school system. We discuss "school choice" (moving toward privatizing education) and the ramifications if that type of policy was more widely adopted. David Barton also comes up as we dialogue about his many ways to in…

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097: Death Doula: Virginia Spotts on Grief, Loss, Religious Trauma, Queerness, and Horror 1:19:07

6M ago1:19:07

1:19:07

Podcast performer and producer Virginia Spotts (The Sheridan Tapes) stops by the VCW hall to talk about her Evangelical story, including her time at Mark Driscoll's Mars Hill Church, and Acts 29 church after that. She talks about realizing she was suffering from religious trauma as well as deep grief and loss (due to extremely painful life experien…

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096: A Palestinian Christian Speaks on the Horror in Gaza: Rula Khoury 1:16:09

6M ago1:16:09

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Rula Khoury, who is Palestinian-American-Christian, stops by the VCW hall to speak boldly about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank with the current war. She talks about her family's history and we also talk about Christian Zionism (often fueled by forms of dispensational theology in America) which make it far more difficult for people to f…

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095: Power, Fear, and Violence: Andrew Whitehead on Christian Nationalism and American Idolatry 58:25

6M ago58:25

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Dr. Andrew Whitehead stops by the VCW hall to chat about his new book "American Idolatry" chronicling the current manifestations of Christian Nationalism in our country. He talks about the main pillars of Christian Nationalism: power, fear and violence. He also discusses how Christians can think about the Great Commission minus a colonial mindset o…

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094: REAP On God's Campus: Erin Green and Paul Carlos Southwick 59:18

7M ago59:18

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Erin Green and Paul Carlos Southwick of REAP (The Religious Exemption Accountability Project) visit the VCW hall to talk about their work organizing and fighting for LGBTQ+ equality at overwhelmingly white, taxpayer-supported religious schools and colleges, and their new podcast for the Axis Mundi network, On God's Campus. Learn more about REAP at …

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093: RL Stollar on Child Liberation Theology and Homeschooling 1:26:59

7M ago1:26:59

1:26:59

R.L. Stollar joins the show to talk about his new book The Kingdom of Children: A Liberation Theology, the homeschooling movement, and his work as an advocate for homeschool survivors. We discuss Mr Rogers, considering scripture stories involving children through the child's perspective, such as the binding of Isaac, and whether evangelism is an in…

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092: The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: Robert P Jones 1:02:44

7M ago1:02:44

1:02:44

Founder and president of the Public Religion Research Institute and author Robert P Jones joins the VCW hall to talk about his New York Times bestselling new book The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy and the Path to a Shared American Future, which traces the underknown but outsized impact of the Doctrine of Discovery on minority and marginalized gro…

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091: Josh Larsen Gives Us Nightmares 1:04:35

8M ago1:04:35

1:04:35

Film critic Josh Larsen (Filmspotting, Think Christian) joins us to discuss his new book Fear Not! A Christian Appreciation of Horror Movies. We discuss frightful movies which have left a lasting impression and given him a deeper understanding of spirituality and human nature, covering multiple subgenres of horror, including slashers, psychological…

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090: Back from Summer Break with Tiki Drinks 43:03

8M ago43:03

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Zach and Dave are changing lightbulbs and deep cleaning the carpets of the VCW Hall, getting it ready for the new season. They talk about trips they took this summer (including Zach's visit to a naked spa and the body positivity/body neutrality/embodiment stuff that involves), while also discussing Zach's recent realization that after 41 years of n…

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089: The Adventures of Mr. Whitaker: Tim Whitaker (The New Evangelicals) 1:01:46

11M ago1:01:46

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Podcaster and social media star Tim Whitaker, with The New Evangelicals, expands on his story with Evangelical Christianity including his process of becoming LGBTQIA affirming. He discusses attending the Asbury Revival and also going to Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA conference. We also talk about where we think Evangelicalism is headed in the fu…

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088: American Prophets of the Religious Left: Jack Jenkins 1:21:55

11M ago1:21:55

1:21:55

Religion News Service national reporter Jack Jenkins joins the VCW to talk about his most recent book "American Prophets: The Religious Roots of Progressive Politics and the Ongoing Fight for the Soul of the Country". We contrast the religious right and the religious left and discuss progressive political movements of the last 20 years and how they…

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087: DisneyLand Mayfield: DL and Krispin Mayfield 1:32:50

12M ago1:32:50

1:32:50

DL "DisneyLand" Mayfield (at least for the purposes of this episode) and Krispin "Krispin" Mayfield join the show to talk about Disneyland, which Zach recently visited and is very excited to discuss and use as a jumping off point for talking about embodiment, being present, time and growth, our evangelical childhoods, neurodivergent experiences, fe…

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086: Come & See the Great Films: Elijah Davidson 1:40:32

12M ago1:40:32

1:40:32

Author and film lover, Elijah Davidson, joins the VCW hall to share his Evangelical story and also talk about his new book "Come & See: A Christian Guide to the Greatest Films of All Time". We discuss some of these historic films and also chat about the Christian movie industry. Pick up the book right here: https://elijahdavidson.com/books/come-see…

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085: The Psychology of Christian Nationalism: Dr. Pamela Cooper-White and Dr. Marcia Pally 1:22:51

1y ago1:22:51

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Dr. Marcia Pally (author of White Evangelicals and Right-Wing Populism: How Did We Get Here?) returns to the VCW hall with her friend, Dr. Pamela Cooper- White. We discuss Dr. Cooper-White's new book, "The Psychology of Christian Nationalism: Why People Are Drawn In And How to Talk Across the Divide". Buy Dr. Pamela Cooper-White's book right here: …

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084: Culture War on Trans People: Billie Hoard 1:11:44

1y ago1:11:44

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Writer, advocate and teacher Billie Hoard joins the VCW to share her story within Evangelicalism, her exit from those spaces and finding herself in a Mennonite church as an anarcho-pacifist. She also discusses coming out as trans to her family and school where she teaches. We also talk about how trans people have become targets in the ferocity of t…

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083: Asian-American Apostate: R. Scott Okamoto 1:29:44

1y ago1:29:44

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Writer and podcaster R. Scott Okamoto returns to the VCW hall to talk about his new memoir Asian-American Apostate: Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University (out on April 18th, 2023). He discusses the process of getting it published, responds to some of the early reviews, and we of course talk about the book itself, which chr…

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