Loyle Carner’s 1am rule

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Musician Loyle Carner drops in for a chat this week. He talks to De-Graft about what it’s like being a dad, identity and his ADHD. He also reveals his top tips in life… remember “nothing good happens after 1 am”.

Also, Stephanie Phillips from punk band Big Joanie takes us through the black cultural roots of rock music. The Nova Twins stop by too, to tell us how they had to fight stereotypes to make the music they want.

And with another new prime minister in Downing Street, we catch up with Andrew, a young black member of the Conservative Party.

Presenter: De-Graft Mensah Producers: Kamilah McInnis and Amy Elizabeth Researchers: Khadra Salad and Paige Neal-Holder Sound: Kamilah McInnis and Dave O’Neill Editor: Alison Gee