Unlearning Fatphobia

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Ep 32 starts off with Susie's daughter's team winning their first volleyball game... until a mother ruined the celebratory moment right at the end of the game with criticism towards her daughter about not being "too cocky"... reminiscent from the scene from the Barbie movie with America Ferrera's monologue about what it is to be a women... "be confident but don't be cocky". Ed had a rollercoaster of a week with the first anniversary of Dexter's passing followed up by Colt's 4th birthday the day after. Colt got a KBBQ 4th Birthday celebration. "Your dog is a piece of your world; but you're their whole world." Ed sleeps through the new iPhone 15 drop. Susie and Ed both hate the term "butter face" and Ed talks about the creator - Butterface Lunch Lady. Susie is trying to make more positive content - esp after seeing the impact of MaryFran video and the fake "looking out for their health" excuse to be fatphobic. Susie and Ed talk about fatphobia and debate about how to unlearn fatphobic programming... as well as not projecting our learned fatphobia onto the next generation. Fatphobic people are a reinforcement of how what people say is really about them more than the person they are directing it towards. Ed talks about how he became conditioned to be fatphobic and his journey to undo that trauma - like his mother telling him he "sounds like he gained weight" over the phone. Susie struggles with 2 daughters with 2 completely different body types and her struggle to teach her daughters how to be healthy without it becoming fatphobia. They discuss their relationships with food - the culture, the history, the memories/nostalgia, the comfort, etc. Susie and Ed discuss eating in front of a camera. Ed's grandmother's afterschool egg and cheese sandwiches. Susie's daughters core memory making holiday brie with Susie. Ed's core memory making kimbap with his grandmother. Susie's core memory of making kimchi with her mother. And how Asian parents show love through food but still need to communicate their love as well.

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