Go offline with the Player FM app!
Episode 316 - PowerScripting Podcast - Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on Open Sourced PowerShell v6
Manage episode 159025204 series 1971
Slack Chatroom
Interview
- The announcement
- YouTube video with PowerShell on Linux demos
- The PowerShell Repository
- New PowerShell learning info
Chatroom Highlights
## What about ARM?
is ## for questions?
## @halr9000 did you find a goat to come on the show as a special guest?
## jsnover needs more edge in his life
## PowerShell is dating bikers.
##Jeffrey, where were y'all hiding Ken Van Hyning all these years?
##jeffrey where did you get inspired to bulid powershell?
ok, if you have q’s, then as sqlvariant has shown, please add ## to the front!
## Is that all?
## ARM support?
## SSHRM
## remember OneGet and the legal team? :stuck_out_tongue:
juneb: prefix questions w/ ##
## Please tell us more about the governance model.
## how did legal allow MIT license?
## Were there lessons learned working with legal/folks unfamiliar with OSS? I know Chef offers a webinar for legal folks, it seems like it would be helpful for large orgs like Microsoft to help sell and teach this
## Will the roles of team members change?
## How can I get paid to work on open source powershell? :-P
## I second Rich's question: what's with the release timing?
## When will core help be open-sourced?
## wait, is that why CIM?
## Can we get an explaination on the Powershell RFC Process for changes ##
## since we're now taking comments, is the team aware that some nuget packages (like Microsoft.Management.Infrastrucutre) are missing XML doc files?
## For bugs should we still use uservoice, connect, or github issues now?
### We noticed version 6 on PowerShell for Linux, when can we expect ver 6 on Winders ###
### is there any PowerShell features that don't work in PS Core?
## For Linux services would you expect to use Get-Services or a new cmdlet like Get-LinuxServices?
##This is why we need Out-DataTable to be in PowerShell core!! :slightly_smiling_face:
## when might we see remoting to Azure/Office 365 tenants from Mac/Linux?
## will powershell run hurd
###I need mah winforms in Linux, can we get System.Windows.Forms ports to linux plz
## my thing about XML doc files
## yeah but what about rasbian
## Raspbian!
## Yes, it was around Raspbian/linux
## NEED ARM!
## need xml doc files in all the nuget pkgs
## Sooooo, how do I get PowerShell on my Chromebook?
## Do we use UserVoice or GitHub issues?
## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
### will script block loging work with syslog?
## Well SQL Server is on Linux so they have a business case :champagne:
## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
## what is next for Snover and team? e.g. Drawbridge, rewriting kernel, on-premise DSC mgmt system
## e.g., right now I have to manually load 32 or 64 bit native dlls in my modules; will I need to manually load linux vs windows as well?
## any thoughts on deeper PS integration with Python etc, beyond strings?
## will get a restapi for AD, and will we get Join domains cmdlets for powershell on mac
## OOH. DSC using powershell on linux, instead of the separate DSC package???
##Have there been any advancements in DSC on Linux?
## DSC will we see a revamp of the DSC for linux to kill off python ##
##Are you aware of any other vendors writing psmodules for Linux right now?
##Snover, was PSDirect one of the drivers for PSnix? Being able to manage Win/Nix on Nano server Hyper-V with one language
##or MAC?
## will we see modules to manage bind9 or dhcpd or other services or MYSQL?
##Forgive me if this was already answered, but can we now powershell remote to Linux?
## do we require !#/usr/local/bash
## will there ever be a means to #! powershell in a script
## what about text enconding
## what can we expect in the next 6, 12 months
## Yes, upcoming roadmap??
## what about an update to the conhost terminal in windows ? Will it support more then 256 colour?
## ONE MORE! What's next for Snover and team?
##Ask about Ken Van Hyning (SQL Tools team) where were they hiding him?!?!
## What question is he up to? One thing on an island?
## Oh you guys don't ask the last question any more?
###Whats next, will they take DIR away from us?
## As of PS5+, does Write-Host write to stream or no?
###Found it
## Is the redirect operator modified in linux or does it behave as per normal?
## Wouldn't this be the role of .NET Standard??
jonwalz uploaded a file: Pasted image at 2016-08-18, 8:51 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/jonwalz/F22RNF6UQ/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_51_pm.png and commented: Anyone else seeing PowerShell as the top trending topic on Facebook?
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/src/Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimCmdlets
Governance model: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md
btw PowerShell going open source is trending on facebook :) https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windows-Powershell/109314949087498?source=whfrt&position=2&trqid=6320345599904818250
@foxde https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/installation/windows.md#msi
halr9000 uploaded a file: Untitled https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F22S025RC/-.pl
https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerShell/comments/4yb5yb/who_is_the_mystery_guest_tonight_and_what_might/d6mgixw
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/
@whatevergeek https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/getstarted
I liked this thread in hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314653 - nice demonstration of why, even if you *can* use text, you might prefer objects
Linus actually is cool with systemd: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question
https://gist.github.com/Jaykul/15a6982aad9b6197a537f1ce5a786723
regarding Aliases there is an open issue here at https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929
here's the PR @jsnover mentioned https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901
I've suggested this as a resolution https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929#issuecomment-239697927
ARM!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/HJN39I1q6EBKE/giphy.gif
@itadder the hard part is that other than ASP.NET http://ASP.NET Core there is no presentation stack for .NET Core. VSCode gets a pass because it uses Electron / Chromium / Html / JS
And you can actually write Electron using C#: https://github.com/kexplo/electron-edge
possible alternate to ogv, don't know if works on the new stuff yet https://github.com/dfinke/PowerShellSlackathon/tree/master/ExportDataTable
also https://github.com/Pash-Project/Pash/issues/429
Is .ps a TLD? RedHat should get RedHatLoves.ps http://RedHatLoves.ps
First book should be written in the open on https://www.gitbook.com/
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1103
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1390
https://cloud.google.com/tools/powershell/docs/
dereksonthejob http://prnt.sc/c7jmuo
Explor .NET API Catalog: http://apisof.net/catalog/System
dereksonthejob uploaded a file: Screen Shot 2016-08-18 at 10.41.10 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SKJQLR/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: here we go
@jonwalz Can you include in the show notes that SQL Server got 3 new cmdlets, and people can get the new SqlServer module by installing SSMS 16.3 http://sqlps.io/dl
dereksonthejob uploaded a file: @r_keith_hill https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SRLC02/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: I have it now, thx to @itadder
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1621
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/706
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1273
Oh, here's a video we did last month if people need to catch up to speed on what's going on with SQL PowerShell in 2016: https://youtu.be/rc6lwiTE9GI
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/695/where-does-mac-os-x-come-from
r_keith_hill uploaded a file: RE line endings: https://powershell.slack.com/files/r_keith_hill/F22SHCYDB/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_54_pm.png and commented: Just a LF but concerns me the default encoding is unicode for out-file still
346 episodes
Manage episode 159025204 series 1971
Slack Chatroom
Interview
- The announcement
- YouTube video with PowerShell on Linux demos
- The PowerShell Repository
- New PowerShell learning info
Chatroom Highlights
## What about ARM?
is ## for questions?
## @halr9000 did you find a goat to come on the show as a special guest?
## jsnover needs more edge in his life
## PowerShell is dating bikers.
##Jeffrey, where were y'all hiding Ken Van Hyning all these years?
##jeffrey where did you get inspired to bulid powershell?
ok, if you have q’s, then as sqlvariant has shown, please add ## to the front!
## Is that all?
## ARM support?
## SSHRM
## remember OneGet and the legal team? :stuck_out_tongue:
juneb: prefix questions w/ ##
## Please tell us more about the governance model.
## how did legal allow MIT license?
## Were there lessons learned working with legal/folks unfamiliar with OSS? I know Chef offers a webinar for legal folks, it seems like it would be helpful for large orgs like Microsoft to help sell and teach this
## Will the roles of team members change?
## How can I get paid to work on open source powershell? :-P
## I second Rich's question: what's with the release timing?
## When will core help be open-sourced?
## wait, is that why CIM?
## Can we get an explaination on the Powershell RFC Process for changes ##
## since we're now taking comments, is the team aware that some nuget packages (like Microsoft.Management.Infrastrucutre) are missing XML doc files?
## For bugs should we still use uservoice, connect, or github issues now?
### We noticed version 6 on PowerShell for Linux, when can we expect ver 6 on Winders ###
### is there any PowerShell features that don't work in PS Core?
## For Linux services would you expect to use Get-Services or a new cmdlet like Get-LinuxServices?
##This is why we need Out-DataTable to be in PowerShell core!! :slightly_smiling_face:
## when might we see remoting to Azure/Office 365 tenants from Mac/Linux?
## will powershell run hurd
###I need mah winforms in Linux, can we get System.Windows.Forms ports to linux plz
## my thing about XML doc files
## yeah but what about rasbian
## Raspbian!
## Yes, it was around Raspbian/linux
## NEED ARM!
## need xml doc files in all the nuget pkgs
## Sooooo, how do I get PowerShell on my Chromebook?
## Do we use UserVoice or GitHub issues?
## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
### will script block loging work with syslog?
## Well SQL Server is on Linux so they have a business case :champagne:
## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
## what is next for Snover and team? e.g. Drawbridge, rewriting kernel, on-premise DSC mgmt system
## e.g., right now I have to manually load 32 or 64 bit native dlls in my modules; will I need to manually load linux vs windows as well?
## any thoughts on deeper PS integration with Python etc, beyond strings?
## will get a restapi for AD, and will we get Join domains cmdlets for powershell on mac
## OOH. DSC using powershell on linux, instead of the separate DSC package???
##Have there been any advancements in DSC on Linux?
## DSC will we see a revamp of the DSC for linux to kill off python ##
##Are you aware of any other vendors writing psmodules for Linux right now?
##Snover, was PSDirect one of the drivers for PSnix? Being able to manage Win/Nix on Nano server Hyper-V with one language
##or MAC?
## will we see modules to manage bind9 or dhcpd or other services or MYSQL?
##Forgive me if this was already answered, but can we now powershell remote to Linux?
## do we require !#/usr/local/bash
## will there ever be a means to #! powershell in a script
## what about text enconding
## what can we expect in the next 6, 12 months
## Yes, upcoming roadmap??
## what about an update to the conhost terminal in windows ? Will it support more then 256 colour?
## ONE MORE! What's next for Snover and team?
##Ask about Ken Van Hyning (SQL Tools team) where were they hiding him?!?!
## What question is he up to? One thing on an island?
## Oh you guys don't ask the last question any more?
###Whats next, will they take DIR away from us?
## As of PS5+, does Write-Host write to stream or no?
###Found it
## Is the redirect operator modified in linux or does it behave as per normal?
## Wouldn't this be the role of .NET Standard??
jonwalz uploaded a file: Pasted image at 2016-08-18, 8:51 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/jonwalz/F22RNF6UQ/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_51_pm.png and commented: Anyone else seeing PowerShell as the top trending topic on Facebook?
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/src/Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimCmdlets
Governance model: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md
btw PowerShell going open source is trending on facebook :) https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windows-Powershell/109314949087498?source=whfrt&position=2&trqid=6320345599904818250
@foxde https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/installation/windows.md#msi
halr9000 uploaded a file: Untitled https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F22S025RC/-.pl
https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerShell/comments/4yb5yb/who_is_the_mystery_guest_tonight_and_what_might/d6mgixw
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/
@whatevergeek https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/getstarted
I liked this thread in hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314653 - nice demonstration of why, even if you *can* use text, you might prefer objects
Linus actually is cool with systemd: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question
https://gist.github.com/Jaykul/15a6982aad9b6197a537f1ce5a786723
regarding Aliases there is an open issue here at https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929
here's the PR @jsnover mentioned https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901
I've suggested this as a resolution https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929#issuecomment-239697927
ARM!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/HJN39I1q6EBKE/giphy.gif
@itadder the hard part is that other than ASP.NET http://ASP.NET Core there is no presentation stack for .NET Core. VSCode gets a pass because it uses Electron / Chromium / Html / JS
And you can actually write Electron using C#: https://github.com/kexplo/electron-edge
possible alternate to ogv, don't know if works on the new stuff yet https://github.com/dfinke/PowerShellSlackathon/tree/master/ExportDataTable
also https://github.com/Pash-Project/Pash/issues/429
Is .ps a TLD? RedHat should get RedHatLoves.ps http://RedHatLoves.ps
First book should be written in the open on https://www.gitbook.com/
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1103
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1390
https://cloud.google.com/tools/powershell/docs/
dereksonthejob http://prnt.sc/c7jmuo
Explor .NET API Catalog: http://apisof.net/catalog/System
dereksonthejob uploaded a file: Screen Shot 2016-08-18 at 10.41.10 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SKJQLR/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: here we go
@jonwalz Can you include in the show notes that SQL Server got 3 new cmdlets, and people can get the new SqlServer module by installing SSMS 16.3 http://sqlps.io/dl
dereksonthejob uploaded a file: @r_keith_hill https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SRLC02/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: I have it now, thx to @itadder
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1621
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/706
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1273
Oh, here's a video we did last month if people need to catch up to speed on what's going on with SQL PowerShell in 2016: https://youtu.be/rc6lwiTE9GI
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/695/where-does-mac-os-x-come-from
r_keith_hill uploaded a file: RE line endings: https://powershell.slack.com/files/r_keith_hill/F22SHCYDB/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_54_pm.png and commented: Just a LF but concerns me the default encoding is unicode for out-file still
346 episodes
All episodes
×Welcome to Player FM!
Player FM is scanning the web for high-quality podcasts for you to enjoy right now. It's the best podcast app and works on Android, iPhone, and the web. Signup to sync subscriptions across devices.