In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk about a book that has made a big impact on Les in recent days called Indistractable: How To Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life by Nir Ayal. Les lays out some of the big ideas from the book as he and Jon talk about the importance of learning to be more focused and present in our …

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Joel Bromley about the business/ministry he and his wife Kaitlin are building in the arena of financial coaching. Joel works as a full-time firefighter and Kaitlin serves on staff in their local church, but they are both passionate about helping other people not only experience fina…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aaron Hansz about his journey from working in the marketplace into vocational pastoral ministry. Aaron shares his unique perspective of some of the more noteworthy observations he made coming into the church world as compared to the corporate marketplace. And while Aaron is very exc…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Rich Sanders about his new book The Christian Capitalist. Rich is a pastor, small business owner, healthcare attorney, retired adjunct professor at Emory University, and former intelligence officer in the U.S. Navy. He and his wife, Rebekah, met at church in 1996, have been blessed …

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Tim Walker about his incredible church planting journey as well as an exciting business he is building. Tim planted Restored Church 12 years ago in Wilkes Barre, PA. Tim describes Restored Church as an urban church that is primarily of and for the poor. They’ve seen God do incredibl…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les dive into the heartfelt journeys of Rusty Roberts and Sean Murphy. Rusty, motivated by his mother’s miraculous recovery from stage 4 cancer, founded Brio Medical Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. His work, deeply rooted in his faith, is guided by scriptures from Psalms and a desire to help other…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les talk with Whitney Johnson about how she is finding opportunities for ministry everywhere as a result of her service-based business. In recent years, Whitney has launched her own cleaning business with a focus of specifically serving the elderly. She shares how this is a community that is often…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we share the story of our friend Tyson Priest who has been on an incredible journey over the past few years. Tyson planted and led a church in rural Indiana for a season, until it became apparent that the time had come to close the doors of the church. While on one hand this certainly represents the death…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we are celebrating the powerful question of “Why?” Jon shares how so often we simply accept the status quo as it is because it’s what has been handed down to us and no one has really challenged the old paradigms by asking WHY. But when we pause long enough to ask the question of WHY, we can open our minds…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les celebrate the three-year anniversary of EntrePastors by each sharing some of the defining moments in their own lives which played a large role in their decisions to think and act differently as it pertains to the financial model with which they approach pastoral ministry. They want you the lis…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Les talks with long-time pastor Dan Scott. Dan served Christ Church during a season in which a powerful move of the Holy Spirit took place as people were inspired, equipped, and released to go into the world and lean into their God-given gifts and talents in the marketplace. Dan captures many of the amazi…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon is going to dive into a subject that might be tough for some pastors to hear. We’re going to talk about how to overcome a spirit of entitlement. At first glance, this might not seem to have much to do with you…or does it? Jon unpacks how living in poverty can ultimately produce people who come to feel…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we talk with Mike Henry, founder of Follower of One, a nonprofit that helps believers integrate their faith with their work in the marketplace. Mike shares his story of coming to Christ years ago and feeling passionate about his new found faith, yet frustrated with the disconnect he often felt between the…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we're joined by Dustin Heiner, a real estate investment expert who transitioned from being a pastor to achieving financial independence through real estate. In this episode, Dustin delves into the nuts and bolts of building a successful real estate investment business, from finding the right city and prop…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, hosts Jon and Les are joined by Elaine Lankford, founder of She Steps Forward Coaching and She Steps Forward International. Elaine's incredible journey from a nursing career to empowering Christian female entrepreneurs is nothing short of remarkable. We'll dive into her personal story of transition, the …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Michael Shafer, co-founder and Executive Director of G6 Allies. Not only has Michael served in pastoral ministry for his entire adult life, he has especially grown to have a heart for serving pastors. He is keenly aware of how church leaders and their families are often overwhelmed b…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les have a conversation with pastor, business coach, and leadership expert Kevin Elworth. Kevin unpacks a powerful principle that, “Your future is designed by the questions you’re willing to answer.” Often in our lives and ministries, we find ourselves experiencing less than amazing results becaus…

On this special Independence Day episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we pause for a moment to not only celebrate our nation’s independence, but to recognize the reality that many people are still living in bondage in a free society…even pastors! The truth is we encounter pastors every week who are trapped in a system of pastoral poverty and often …

On this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes dive into a rich conversation with their guest, Devin Schurbert. Devin shares his extraordinary journey of faith, fatherhood, and entrepreneurship. From adoption to creating successful youth ministries and multi-million-dollar businesses, Devin’s path is nothing short of …

How often have you heard the phrase, “Just have faith,” in regards to pastors and their financial situation? In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk about this often-used cliche and some of the underlying problems with it. Even though at first blush this advice sounds very spiritual, there are many other variables to consider w…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we're thrilled to dive deep into the inspiring journey of Trevor Hislop, a former pastor who transitioned into the entrepreneurial world of mental health care. Join hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes as they explore how Trevor founded LiveWell Behavioral Health to address crucial gaps in community mental h…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we are excited to have Rob Wentz join us in a dynamic conversation about leadership coaching and effective communication. Rob, a seasoned leadership coach with 20 years of experience in radio broadcasting, sheds light on his journey from struggling with self-expression to becoming a communication expert.…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les sit down with Dawn Marasco to talk about the ministry/business she is building as she is serving others who are in need of deep healing like God has done for her. Dawn shares her powerful story of how God met her at a place of deep pain and trauma in her past and brought healing and wholeness …

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon talks with returning guest Greg Reed about his journey from pastoring to an incredible new season of ministry called “workplace life coaching.” With over four decades of pastoral ministry experience and a passion for reaching others, Greg transitioned to a workplace life coach role, bringing faith int…

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes have an incredible conversation with Pastor Danny Holwerda. They talk about how pastors, with their unique people skills, can thrive in business. Danny shares his journey of balancing ministry, entrepreneurship, and overcoming financial struggles while maintaining a heart of se…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les welcome back returning guest Joshua Brown…aka “The Pressure Washing Pastor,” to wrestle with the question of whether or not pastors lack the grit to make good entrepreneurs. Joshua unpacks some of his thoughts about how the traditional model of vocational ministry has helped to reinforce a spi…

On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Lori Sheldon, author of the best-selling book Change of Heart in which she writes about caring for and walking alongside her husband through his heart transplant journey. Lori also shares the story of how God brought her into contact with Jon and Les and the role that EntrePastors pl…

On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon Sanders and Les Hughes welcome guest Joseph Bennett, who shares his journey from the medical field to full-time ministry on a foreign mission field, and then from life in Honduras to returning to the United States where he now balances serving a pastor along with running a commercial cleaning business…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Ray Hilbert, founder of The Kingdom Factor, about the integration of faith and business. Ray shares the journey of his career and how he has navigated the challenges of aligning Christian values in corporate environments. Ray, Jon, and Les examine the American church's historical de…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Ryan Follis shares the story of his amazing transition journey from a corporate role with Target in which he honed significant skills in leadership and business acumen into the world of pastoral ministry. Ryan unpacks some of the struggles and frustrations he experienced as he made that transition and how…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast we welcome Scott Tharp, a bi-vocational pastor and financial coach, who shares his transformative journey from pastoral ministry to founding his business, Krisco Coaching. Motivated by personal financial triumphs and biblical principles, Scott now aids individuals in conquering financial difficulties, cha…

In this inspiring episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aisha “Wonderful” Jackson as she shares her transformative journey from corporate CFO to self-published author and entrepreneur. Facing tech barriers and self-doubt, Aisha embraced coaching, applied crucial business strategies, and underwent a profound spiritual realignmen…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Scott Benham, founder of the Intreprenuer Academy. Scott is on a mission to help people realize their giftings and talents to show up in the marketplace as key “intreprenuers” within growing organizations. He explains that people with an intrepreneurial mindset are similar to entrepr…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon talks with Chaz Freutel, a 'kingdompreneur,' and Director of the NOBLE Foundation Group (Network of Business and Entrepreneurial Leaders) about integrating entrepreneurship with Christianity. He encourages churches to make better use of underutilized spaces by creating entrepreneur centers and support…

For anyone who might find themselves serving in a toxic ministry culture where scarcity is the prevailing mindset, yet dreaming of a day where you could be walking in freedom and abundance, this episode is going to be a huge encouragement to you! In this “Saturday Replay” episode, Jon and Les have a conversation with Eric Reploeg about his journey …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Carl Cox about embracing marketplace opportunities for ministry. Carl shares his experience of expanding his ministry beyond traditional church walls and building relationships with diverse groups, including businesses, sports teams and first responders agencies. He emphasizes …

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…

In this “Saturday Replay” episode Jon and Les will introduce you to another amazing entrepreneurial pastor. Alex Klimchuk and his wife Tanya are the founders and Lead Pastors of New Life Church in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Alex immigrated to the United States from Ukraine as a boy back in 1990. Having a life-long dream of owning his own business s…

What is the most important key to a successful business? Some might argue it is a great product or service. Others might say it is having a smart and savvy entrepreneur at the helm. Still others might suggest that it is a stellar marketing plan. While all of these elements are critical to the success of any great business, the most important key is…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Dr. David Powers about a platform he helps oversee called Passive Income Engines. David loves to see people develop streams of passive income through various activities that capitalize on their skills and passions. His true desire is to see people not only thrive financially, but to …

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Jeff Elder about his life’s journey of surrendering to God’s calling into the ministry of business. Like many others, when Jeff was younger and desired to serve God with his life, he thought the obvious way to do that was through working as a pastor. However, God clearly intervened a…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Chris Orecchio about his role as Director of Business Development with ACTION Coach in Columbus, Ohio. In our conversation Chris shares the importance and advantages of leaning into kingdom principles in building and growing a business in the marketplace. Guest Info/Links: Link…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Robert Grice about his side hustle of counseling that not only compliments his pastoral ministry, but also provides an additional stream of income for his family. Robert shares how he got into the specific niche of grief counseling and how that has opened doors for ministry bey…

In this “Saturday Replay” edition of the EntrePastors podcast, we are going all the way back to the very beginning of our EntrePastors platform. In this episode you will hear Jon and Les share a little bit about their own personal journeys and the story of how they came together to serve pastors through this new endeavor. In doing so, you will also…

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Josh Vidor about his life growing up in serious poverty in the home of a pastor’s family. While Josh’s experience as a youth didn’t drive him to a place of bitterness toward the Lord, it did have a tremendous impact on shaping his resolve that life would look different for him …

Who Not How is the second recommended book by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy. Les shares from his and Jon’s experience of implementing the principles in Who Not How. Being successful isn’t only about business principles and strategies. Success is about the right partnerships and relationships. If you’re trying to climb a mountain, it’s wise to go …

In this episode Les discusses one of two books by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy. The title sounds counter-intuitive, but 10x is Easier Than 2x is absolutely true. The authors discuss how to change your thinking and behavior to focus on the 20% of activity that’s leading to 80% of the results. Exponential growth only results in exponential thought…