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With(in)

DU Prison Arts Initiative and Colorado Department of Corrections

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With(in) is an award winning podcast committed to shifting the conversation on who is in prison, specifically within the Colorado Department of Corrections (CDOC). Through meaningful, complex and enlightening conversations with incarcerated people and others in and around the criminal justice system we are committed to revealing our shared humanity across the system. With(in) is a collaboration between the DU Prison Arts Initiative (DU PAI) and the CDOC and is recorded across three correctio ...
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Our visionary leader Mr. Dean Williams announced his departure from Executive Director of the Colorado Department of Corrections on November 9, 2022, after four years of impassioned service to thousands of incarcerated people, CDOC staff and our larger Colorado community. The following day, after his announcement, he joined the With(in) team in-per…
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In Eps 22 of With(in), Co-hosts Denise Presson and Andrew Draper ponder the question of sentencing laws, how do we give justice to the victims and also hold space for the humanity of the perpetrators of those crimes with the same hands? Their discussion lands on the fact that cookie-cutter laws only take into account the crime, and not the reason b…
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In episode 21 of With(in) -- Pattycake to Prison -- we explore what we are calling the pipeline to prison, specifically unpacking the correlation between juvenile detention and adult imprisonment. Ashley Ratliff, a public defense attorney specializing in children at risk of adult prosecution, speaks with Co-host Andrew Draper about the traumatic ef…
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In the 20th episode of With(in) -- Still a Citizen -- co-hosts Denise Presson and Andrew Draper explore what it means to be both a felon and an American citizen. First, Denise interviews Denver Women’s Correctional Facility resident Tiffany McCoy about her inspiration for creating better policy within the Colorado Department of Corrections and usin…
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Episode 19 of With(in) -- The Stone Catcher -- is a very special episode! In The Stone Catcher we witness a conversation between social justice advocate, lawyer, and author Bryan Stevenson and our incarcerated With(in) and DU Prison Arts Initiative team. Our team is thrilled to have been able to speak to Mr. Stevenson, the author of the best sellin…
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Episode 18 of With(in) -- Vital Diagnosis -- dives into the intricacies of recognizing and treating mental health issues inside of prison. Associate Producer Sarah Berry and With(in) Co-Host Denise Presson interview Mental Health Supervisor for Denver Women’s Correctional facility Ms. Abeyta. They discuss the disparity between the percentage of wom…
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In Episode 17 of With(in) -- Same Planet, Different Worlds -- we delve into the ways people look at the world and how our own preconceived paradigms shape that perception, especially when it comes to race, privilege and economic disparity. With(in) Music Producer Travis Barnes (incarcerated at Denver Reception Diagnostic Center) explains why, in th…
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In episode 16 of With(in) -- The Great Bridge -- we traverse the idea of bridging our differences, and what it will take to make real change in our country. Associate Producer Sean Marshall (incarcerated at Denver Regional Diagnostic Center) and Segment Host Brett Phillips (incarcerated at Sterling Correctional Facility) delve into what it means to…
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Episode 15 of With(in) journeys into today’s social climate, as Associate Producer Sean Marshall (incarcerated at Denver Reception and Diagnostic Center) opens by laying down a framework describing the facts about the origination of two seemingly polarizing organizations: Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter. Sean then interviews Cyrus Clarkson…
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In episode 14 of With(in) segment host Matthew LaBonte (incarcerated at Sterling Correctional Facility) chats with Professor Wayne Gilbert about coping with the painful dance between solitude and engagement in the claustrophobic new world of "lockdown" that the pandemic has created. Then, Denver Women’s Correctional Facility Sergeant Dejoire Cooper…
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In the first episode of Season 2 of With(in), "The Way Back", we begin by sharing a bit about our team's journey over the past two years, creating Season 2 of With(in)-- virtually -- during the Covid19 pandemic, across three prisons in the Colorado Department of Corrections. We then share glimpses of the Season to come in a trailer of the upcoming …
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In our final episode of season 1, we complete our story on dying in prison by speaking with Nick Jones, an incarcerated man in his 60s, dying from cancer in the infirmary at DRDC. A woodworker, Mr. Jones shares with us the legacy he’d like to leave behind – a wooden toy chest filled with toys for children in hospitals. Mr. Jones sadly passed away t…
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This week, we begin our two-part story on dying in prison. With so many of our team members serving long or life sentences, this subject was a particularly difficult one for us. Today, we sit down with Damon Davis, an offender care aide (OCA) serving a life plus 480-year sentence. He explains the offender care vocational program, why he chose to ge…
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In today’s episode, we continue our mission to shift the conversation on who is in prison, by speaking to the Warden of the Denver Complex. Warden Ryan Long has spent a significant amount of his professional career in Colorado’s prisons, working his way from correctional officer, to case manager, to warden. Currently, Warden Long oversees the multi…
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You’ve heard his work all season, and today you finally get to hear from the man himself. This week on With(in), Denise, Draper, and Ashley speak with our resident poet, William S. Graham, about the role art has had in his life. Unlike the story you heard from our Reverberations Newsletter Liaison, Terry Mosley Jr., a couple weeks ago, Graham’s rel…
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On this week’s episode, we explore the extremely difficult subject of domestic violence. Denise, Draper, and Ashley first speak with Jamiylah Nelson, a resident of Denver Women’s Correctional facility serving a life without parole sentence. Jamiylah shares her story of being in an abusive relationship and how she’s come to recognize the type of lov…
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This week, we hear from our very own Terry Mosley Jr. on his experiences with arts practices in prison and how his work with the DU Prison Arts Initiative has changed his perspective on what it means to be an artist and to live in prison. Terry is our Reverberations from With(in) liaison and a DU PAI group leader at Sterling Correctional Facility. …
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In the second part of Rory and Otis’ story into and out of violence, we hear how their plan to escape Centennial Correctional Facility failed, and the consequences they both faced as a result of their attempt. This week, they tell us about their experiences in solitary confinement, where they spent a combined total of nearly 40 years. Rory and Otis…
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This week, we introduce you to two infamous men inside Colorado’s Department of Corrections. Rory Atkins, resident of the Denver Reception and Diagnostic Center (DRDC) and Otis Bell, resident of Limon Correctional Facility, met three decades ago, while both were residing at Centennial Correctional Facility in Canon City, Colorado. When Rory entered…
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This week, Denise, Draper, and Ashley sit down with criminologist, professor and DU Prison Arts Initiative (DU PAI) faculty advisor, Dr. Jeff Lin. Dr. Lin is interested in the ways that criminal outcomes are impacted by systemic arrangements of policy and practice. Using quantitative and comparative methods, he has examined these dynamics among juv…
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When our Associate Producer, Sarah Berry, came to prison, her crime determined how she was treated by other women in the facility. Media coverage of her case and gossip within the prison walls created a narrative about Sarah before she had even set foot inside a state prison. This week on With(in), we speak with Sarah and the woman who gave her the…
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In this week’s episode of With(in), Draper reflects on his experiences growing up in and living life in an East Denver gang and the vicious cycle of violence that largely goes unnoticed. Sharing personal stories of what his life looked like when he ran with the Crips, Draper shows the harm perpetuated by gang culture and how his experiences have le…
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On our very first episode of With(in) our hosts, Denise, Draper, and Ashley sit down with the Executive Director of the Colorado Department of Corrections (CDOC), Dean Williams. Mr. Williams was appointed to lead the CDOC by Governor Jared Polis in January of 2019. In today’s episode, he outlines his plans to implement normalization efforts within …
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With(in) is a podcast that is committed to shifting the conversation on who is in prison through meaningful, complex and enlightening conversations with incarcerated people in Colorado and other's in and around the system. With(in) is a collaboration between the DU Prison Arts Initiative (DU PAI) and the Colorado Department of Corrections. With(in)…
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