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What’s That Noise?!

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What’s That Noise?! The podcast about confusion! Tune in for marginally intelligent discussions on a variety of topics with academics, researchers, community leaders, musicians, and noisemakers of all kinds. Follow us on Twitter @WTNcast and @whatsthatdata.
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In Episode 8 Tommy and Lawrence chat with the venerable James Delorme, VP of Community Development at Salish Elements. James is one of our most fun yet most insightful guests. He brings a wealth of knowledge and insight into helping us understand what is meant by an Indigenous lens on all things technology, collaboration, innovation, and co-operati…
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In Episode 7 we speak to Melissa Giles-Hardy, owner, President, and CEO of ORIGIN - a company that design, develops, and delivers technology experiences to drive employment while also protecting and promoting culture for Indigenous peoples across Turtle Island. It's no surprise that Melissa is recipient of multiple awards, including the 2021 RBC In…
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In Episode 6 we speak to Matthew Norris, Senior Policy Analyst at the British Columbia Assembly of First Nations, and President of the Urban Native Youth Association. As a former candidate for Vancouver city council and a PhD student in UBC's Department of Political Science, Matthew has and continues to be exposed to numerous important intersecting…
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In Episode 5 of One Feather Two Pens we speak with the award winning actor, director, producer, writer, and storyteller, Elle-Máijá Tailfeathers. Member of the Kinai First Nation as well as Sámi from Norway, Elle-Máijá joins us to discuss her Rogers Audience Award winning documentary, Kímmapiiyipitssini: The Meaning of Empathy. The powerful film is…
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In our latest episode on One Feather, Two Pens we have the privilege and honor to chat with Mary Teegee and Matt Smiley, the Directors of For Love on Netflix. As an Indigenous woman and non-Indigenous man, Mary and Matt have worked closely together since before their powerful piece Highway of Tears. The two reflect on their journeys, learnings, and…
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We are very excited to have Josh Nilson, Co-Founder of East Side Games, recent winner of the BC Tech Association's Person of the Year Award (and a Producer of one of Tommy's all time favourite games, Company of Heroes!), to talk about the value and importance of reconciliation through the inclusion of Indigenous peoples in the tech sector. Josh sha…
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In our second episode of this new special series, we are honoured to be joined by Chief Dr. Robert Joseph, OC, OBC. Dr. Joseph is a hereditary Chief of the Gwawaenuk First Nation, is Ambassador for Reconciliation Canada where he has guided the Canadian Federal government through their residential school response. Dr. Joseph is a survivor of St. Mic…
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Once upon a time on What's That Noise?! we asked: wouldn't it be wonderful to launch a special series with their new friend and former guest, Lawrence Lewis? That time has arrived! Al, Tommy, and Lawrence are so very pleased to present One Feather Two Pens, a special series that interviews Indigenous thought and technology leaders about functioning…
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Before the pandemic, AI was growing in Canada. Throughout the pandemic, AI has exploded in Canada. Through working from home and online schooling to the abundance of location, health, medical, and interaction data around us at all times, the last half decade truly has witnessed institutions moving rapidly toward AI to make money, increase efficienc…
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Hey friends! Hope your summer is swell! It sure has been for us - perhaps a bit too good? While it's been rather tough to find time to record together, we're really pumped to finish off the summer with two new episodes. Today's chat is with Tommy's dear friend, Fernando Leiva - an analytics developer at the Centre for Advanced Computing at Queen's …
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More than ever people are questioning whether or not their job is the best fit. How many of us have found themselves in this position, particularly during the pandemic? How many of us have wondered what it takes to change ship, how much courage would be required to do so - and whether or not the grass is truly 'greener' on the other side? In this e…
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Tommy and Al are excited to bring a fantastic piece filled with both confusion and clarity around a tremendously important subject: Indigenous Digital Identity. What's That Noise?! is honoured to speak with Lawrence Lewis, Founder and CEO of OneFeather: an Indigenous technology company that designs specialized software solutions for Indigenous peop…
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Almost immediately after the #warinukraine began, the Western world told Ukrainians: "our borders are open". When a humanitarian crisis unfolds, such as the largest exodus of a population occurs since the end of world war two, it's logical that a country would open its borders to those in need, no? Not so fast. The world's borders - how they are ma…
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Fact: for the week of March 28, the top 20 global Google search trends do not include the #pandemic, the #warinUkraine, #residentialschools. Will Smith, Jada Smith, Chris Rock, and celebrity reactions dominated. Why? What happened to the rest of the world? Where did it go? Is Western society seriously this obsessed with celebrity drama? Could it be…
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Part 2 of our chat about neurotechnology delves a bit deeper... If people have fluid identities, can neurotech capture them? What does it mean to enhance a body and a mind that are constantly changing? What happens when people are uncomfortable, unconfident, and uncertain about who they are, what they are doing and where they are heading? Can neuro…
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Our hearts are with Ukraine. The situation is incomprehensibly horrific. As the world watches, many of us feel helpless. There's a ton of confusion around what it means to be a passive observer. Even if you wanted to help, could you? What would that look like? Is there any way to support Ukrainians in their time of urgent need beyond memes, hashtag…
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What do you get when you combine "nervous system" with "technology"? Confusion, evidently! What is neurotech, exactly? Sure, it is technology that is attached to the body's neural activity... But what part of the body? Does it affect the body, and if so - how? Why even build this technology? Who builds, and for what reasons? And as ever, what are t…
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What is the connection between bedsheet-related incidents and the consumption of cheese? Hopefully none. That would be confusing, and weird. However! There might be a correlation between those unusually paired items! Correlations, correlations. Part two is about the wonderfully bizarre world of data correlations. Is it not correlations at the heart…
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Today we chat Dr. Dillon Mahmoudi, Professor of Geography and Environmental Systems at the University of Maryland Baltimore County about his confusion with AI and advertising! Join Tommy, Al and Dillon in this first episode of a two-part series that explores the complexities of how targeted advertisements show up in your smartphone. Even with his b…
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Happy New Year, everyone! I am so grateful for two things! First, we have a new co-host! It's truly my pleasure to introduce my dear friend, Al Coombs to you. Al is a seasoned radio broadcaster who hosted and co-hosted shows in London, Ontario for over a decade. He joins us at WTNCast as a freshly-minted public school teacher, too! His warmth and i…
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This latest episode is a special one. Tommy has wanted to explore predictive policing for a while. He had the opportunity to do so as a sample case study for one of the classes he teaches at Queen's University: AI, Ethics & Society - a Masters of Engineering course where students use any media format they wish to explore the social and ethical impl…
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In association with the University of Texas Press, the third instalment of the My Shadow Is My Skin: Voices from the Iranian Diaspora special series features, Prof. Mehdi Tavana Okasi and Dr. Roger Sedarat. Mehdi is Professor of Creative Writing at Purchase College of the State University of New York, who was born in Iran and became a refugee of th…
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In this second instalment of our special series, in association with the University of Texas Press, Tommy speaks with Dr. Babak Elahi, Head of Department, Liberal Studies at Kettering University. Dr. Elahi is a special contributor to My Shadow Is My Skin: Voices from the Iranian Diaspora, not only as the musical talent behind the series' music, but…
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From the vault of unpublished episodes comes with a fascinating conversation with Desmond Cox, an IT and software development professional who has a fresh and often competing take on Tommy's understandings and perspectives about data, privacy and ethics. During a trip to Germany in 2019, Tommy and his wife visited Des and Chrissy - good friends who…
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"In the four decades since the Iranian Revolution in 1979, Iranian-Americans have made sense of their lives and reconciled their sense of belonging and not belonging through writing, first through poetry and memoir in the immediacy of migration and exile, and later in a developing and rich explosion of fiction. In the past decade, we have seen a bl…
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In today's chat, Tommy sits down with his wife, Cristina, and his new second-cousins, Georgi and Florin Stancu, to share their incredible journey. Born, raised, and built lives in Bucharest, Romania, Cristina translates between Tommy and his new family to discuss their decision to leave Romania in search of better opportunities and a better for lif…
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Thank you for joining us on the most important episode we've published to date, and perhaps will be the most important episode we will publish - for more reasons than we could possibly articulate here in written text. In this episode, we discuss the inescapably difficult but exceedingly important matter of quality versus quantity life - when given …
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Happy New Year, everyone! Derek and I are excited to bring you our first episode of 2020. Today's chat is a follow-up to the last episode of 2019. If you haven't heard it yet, you'll want to go back and check it out or this episode will leave you feeling as confused as Tommy was after Episode 28: Kawhi Leonard and the Expectation of Privacy in the …
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After the Toronto Raptors won their first championship in franchise history, attention quickly shifted from celebration to discussions of whether or not the team’s star player and finals MVP, Kawhi Leonard, would resign with the team. What ensued was commonly referred to by media as the “Kawhi Watch,” which captivated the city, and perhaps even all…
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Imagine spending 24.5 years in a specific laboratory. And then imagine switching, to seemingly start all over again. In this show Tommy chats with Dr. Karen Rees-Milton, a veteran bench scientist who is expertly versed in protein biochemistry, enzyme kinetics, classical biochemistry, immunology, microbiology, molecular biology, cell culture, and gl…
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In this episode, we continue discussing a long-standing theme of the show: how government develops, mobilizes, and uses surveillance technologies abroad and at home. More specifically, we focus on a program called the "Real Time Regional Gateway," a secretive data processing and mining system introduced by the NSA and deployed during American milit…
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Tommy sits down with Dr. Midori Ogasawara, Banting Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Ottawa, and one of the premiere investigative journalists on surveillance in Japan. For nearly twenty years, Midori has researched the legacy of surveillance in Japan, and is the only reporter from Japan to have interviewed NSA whistle blower, Edward Snowden…
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This episode is centered on the theme of representation and authority in the public sphere. Can we trust what authorities tell us about how we use our digital technologies, or how laws and public policies are developed and mobilized? How can we make sense of official justifications for interventions that are increasingly intrusive in our daily live…
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It's been so long! But we're back! Derek and I have reconnected and we've got a great run of new content coming your way. Today, we begin by touching base - to see where we've been to figure out where we're heading. A big focus of our reconnection is something that has kept Tommy really busy this past half year. In what we might otherwise call "A D…
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An episode to begin the term, and one to close off. Thank you so much, and our deepest apologies, for our hiatus! It has been a great calendar year thus far, and also an exceptionally busy one. In today's episode, Tommy sits down with Dr. Samer Abboud, Associate Professor of Global Interdisciplinary Studies at Villanova University to chat about lan…
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Happy New Year, everyone! We're so very excited to share our first episode of the New Year, feat. John Hannant-Minchel, a Masters student of Kinesiology at Queen's University. After meeting at a local breakfast hotspot in the beautiful city of Kingston, Ontario, Canada, John and Tommy found time to sit down again - over another coffee - to explore …
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In Volume 20, Derek and Tommy sit down with Cale Sutherland, an Associate Lawyer practicing injury and health law at Lerner's LLP in the beautiful city of London, Ontario, Canada. Mr. Sutherland helps our co-hosts not only debunk some preconceived ideas they had about how much the law is like our favourite tv shoe, Suits. Cale also helps them debun…
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In this week's episode, Derek and Tommy chat about application privacy on iOS and Android. New technologies such as the Samsung Galaxy, Pixel, and iPhone have become so heavily relied upon for communication that it is almost unfathomable to be fully 'disconnected' from the social world. But our phones are not simply communication devices - they are…
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Tommy is back! After a summer spent researching data privacy in Bochum, Germany (and traversing the Swiss alps with his newly-engaged parter), Tommy is back in studio to chat with Derek about his research project on visualizing data flows in smartphones. In many ways our cell phones are the most important communication tool in our daily lives. Not …
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The ASA annual meeting is almost upon us! In our final pre-ASA episode, Derek chats with one of his own mentors, Dr. Carla Pfeffer, Associate Professor of Sociology and Women's and Gender Studies at the University of South Carolina (Derek's alma mater!), about her book Queering Families: The Postmodern Partnerships of Cisgender Women and Transgende…
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Welcome to the second episode of our little University of Toronto mini-series! As we ramp up for the ASA annual meeting this weekend in Philadelphia, Derek chats with Dr. Jooyoung Lee (PhD UCLA), Associate Professor in the Deparment of Sociology at the University of Toronto and faculty member at the Centre for the Study of the United States in the …
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Following a few weeks off, we are finally back in the groove in the leadup to the American Sociolocial Association's annual meeting in Philly! In this week's episode, Derek sits down with a long time twitter-friend Dr. Neda Maghbouleh (PhD University of California), Assistant Professor in the Department of Sociology at the University of Toronto, to…
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In this long overdue episode, Tommy and Derek finally reunite to reflect upon the podcast's first episodes while chatting about the past, present, and future direction of What's That Noise. We also have some REALLY, REALLY BIG NEWS to share about @thomasncooke's personal life! Tune in as we discuss the confusion and noisiness surrounding the produc…
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In our second episode from Germany, co-host @thomasncooke planned to chat with a new friend and colleague about her summer research project at the Centre for Advanced Internet Studies (@CAIS). That will have to wait, as our guest @julirone - a recent Social and Political Sciences PhD graduate of the European University Institute, Florence, Italy - …
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Over the past few years we have experienced the notable reemergence of a white nationalist movement within the public sphere. From the Emanuel AME shooting to Charlottesville, VA and beyond, white nationalism seems to be undergoing a rebranding of sorts - moving out of the darkness of the internet and into the limelight of public discourse. While m…
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Volume 11 marks the beginning of a unique side series for @WTNcast, as Tommy conducts numerous interviews during his summerlong Fellowship at the Centre for Advanced Internet Studies (CAIS) in Bochum, Germany. In this episode, Tommy sits Max Brenker to learn about life growing up, working in, and navigating around the state of North-Rhein Westfalia…
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On this week's episode, Derek chats with Dr. Jeff Preston, Assistant Professor of disability studies at King's University College, to discuss his work on representations of disability in popular culture. From Jimmy Brooks (a.k.a. Drake) in Degrassi to Artie Abrams (Kevin McHale) in Glee, mass media tends to paint a relatively simple and uniform pic…
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In another very special episde, Derek travels to Winnipeg to sit down with Dr. Jeffrey Monaghan, Assistant Professor in the Institute for Criminology and Criminal Justice at Carleton University, and Fahad Ahmad, PhD candidate in public policy at Carleton, to discuss their work on radicalization and some of the challenges with so-called "radicalizat…
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In today's very special episode, Derek travels to Winnipeg to sit down with Dr. Kevin Walby, Associate Professor in the Department of Criminology at the University of Winnipeg, and Alex Luscombe, PhD student in the Centre for Criminology at the University of Toronto, to discuss their work using Access to Information (ATI) and Freedom of Information…
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In this special episode, Tommy and Derek sit down with long-time high school teacher Danny Clarke to discuss neoliberalism and education, bureaucracy, standardization, and the utility of metrics. Tune in for our discussion of Education, Inc. and some of the problems with "juking the stats" in our efforts to 'educate' our youth. You can follow the s…
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