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ShrinkChicks

Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT

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Emmalee Bierly, LMFT and Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT, owners and co-founders of The Therapy Group (@thetherapygrp), bring you the ShrinkChicks Podcast. ShrinkChicks is on a mission to make therapy and therapeutic topics more relatable and accessible. Each Monday, Emmalee and Jen will explore different mental health topics and invite you to sit in on their insight, humor, and knowledge, leaving the psychobabble behind.
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From her TikTok and Instagram, @findingmrheight, dating coach Ali Jackson is joined by friend & stand up comedian Erica Spera (@spericaa) to bring you their positive and practical dating approach in podcast form. Their straightforward attitudes, often with some humor on the side, will help you tackle modern dating issues while building confidence and staying authentic to your true self. Follow along @findingmrheight for even more content!
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Erica & Ali could not HELP but let this interview with ShrinkChicks (aka Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT & Emmalee Bierly, LMFT) run a bit long because, y’all, it is incredible. The foursome starts off discussing how difficult it can be to find a therapist and offer some advice for navigating that journey. Then, we move into our most popular listener submis…
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On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are covering a topic that they differ greatly on: when to speak up (what Jen works on) and when to bite your tongue (what Em works on). So whether you are an Em or a Jen - they got you! They discuss questions to ask yourself when debating whether to say something, harming yourself by staying q…
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It’s our first time doing Ask A 40-Something Man, featuring Erica’s good friend and standup comedian Charles McBee. We asked our listeners: “What’s something you’ve always wanted to ask a man?” and y’all did not disappoint! Tune in for Charles’s thoughts things like: moving on after a breakup, how much men share with their friends, and whether you …
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This week's episode is a re-release of one of Emmalee and Jen's favorite episodes. They want to model what they often share, which is the importance of resting and taking breaks in order to continue to show up as the best versions of themselves. The topic is one that constantly receives questions: what to do when the people in your life aren't "doi…
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Ali & Erica switch it up this week with a new episode format: discussing scenes from Sex And The City and how they apply to life today (complete with some voice acting!). We discuss lending money to friends, whether friends can be your true soulmates, & what to do if you hate going down. In Updates, Erica gets her Don’t Tell set back and works on s…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are explaining the difference between having empathy for someone vs. enabling someone, as they can feel very similar. They start off the episode by sharing ways to recognize the line between the two and speak on why it can be challenging to shift the dynamic in a relationship where we're enabling. Emmalee …
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Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by two incredible guests, Dr. Sophia Brandstetter and Karen Smith, LCSW! Both Sophia and Karen are therapists who have advanced training in and specialize in Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP). Together, they discuss who is a candidate for KAP, a detailed explanation of what KAP looks like, KAP i…
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Erica & Ali are back answering your questions in a Hot Topics episode this week! We counsel a listener who is nervous about having sex for the first time. Then, a listener is struggling with a guy who’s chronically late and recently stood her up. Third, Erica gives advice on navigating a herpes disclosure in your relationship. And finally, a listen…
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about anticipatory anxiety. They begin by explaining the different reasons and scenarios where we might experience anticipatory anxiety, along with what could trigger it for us. Emmalee and Jen share their own personal experiences with anticipatory anxiety and how it manifests for …
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We’re back with another debate team episode, where Ali & Erica debate topics submitted by our listeners! We’ve got four topics up for debate this week. Let us know where you stand! Marathon dates early in the game - yay or nay? Is it okay to be late for a date? Can you date someone you work with? And finally, should you go ring shopping with your p…
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are thrilled to sit down with Alua Arthur! Alua is a speaker, an author, and the founder of Going with Grace, a death doula training and end-of-life planning organization. The three of them discuss the often uncomfortable topic of death and how to get more comfortable with it so that it doesn't fe…
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Straight from your guest suggestions, we have Maddie Dragsbaek, host of the Emotionally Online podcast, in an amazing episode this week! Maddie has been opening up about her life online since before podcasts were a thing and this week is no exception. Our conversation focuses first on her bisexuality - what exploring that both privately and publicl…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are digging deeper into our childhood wounds and exploring how they may affect our friendships today. They start the episode by explaining the four different common core wounds to help you identify yours. Then, they share which core wound they each most identify with and how Jen's wound can trigger Emmalee…
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Erica & Ali have so many updates to share this week that we did an episode full of them (plus a lot of girl talk in between)! Erica is fresh off her third date with Tony Soprano and is on the fence about a fourth (until she accidentally pushes herself off). The gals get into a great discussion about the frustration of someone being “good on paper” …
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Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the very under-discussed topic of friendships and the difficulties that exist as we try to make new friends and nurture old friendships in adulthood. They start the episode off by sharing some interesting statistics on friendships. Then, they give us a glimpse into what their friendship was l…
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Psychotherapist Charisse Cooke is back on the pod this week and Erica & Ali could have talked to her for hours! Our conversation focuses on attachment theory, answering listener questions such as how to self soothe an anxious attachment, best strategies for navigating an anxious/avoidant dynamic, and why avoidant attachment gets such a bad rap. In …
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about what they are working on personally and professionally. They want to continue to be vulnerable with you all and share their personal goals and struggles. In the first part of the episode, Emmalee and Jen share two different personal stories about having to pivot when it comes to …
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We hear about cheating a lot, but it’s rarely from the perspective of the person who does the cheating. This week, standup comedian Chloe Radcliffe opens up about her pattern of cheating (which she wrote a solo show about!). We dive into her thoughts on the origins of cheating, what she’s learned from her pattern and is applying in her new relation…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by the incredible Dr. Danica Harris! Danica is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, facilitator, presenter, and educator. She helps folks heal from attachment wounds, sexual trauma, emotional neglect, vicarious trauma, intergenerational and identity-based trauma, and work or academic trauma. Emm…
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We had so much fun talking about our past beliefs the other week that we’re bringing it back for a series including your submissions! We discuss submissions such as “your person will complete you,” “trying hard isn’t cool,” and “you should share many common hobbies with your partner.” Let us know if you like this series and submit more of your past…
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen sit down with one of their dear friends, fellow therapist, and talented author, Elizabeth Earnshaw, LMFT! Liz is the author of I Want This to Work and has a new book available for pre-order now: Til' Stress Do Us Part: How to Heal The #1 Issue in Our Relationships. Emmalee and Jen start the episode off…
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Ali & Erica are joined this week by Kelly, a listener who wrote in to share her story about dating with depression & anxiety. Kelly shares her journey towards getting diagnosed, how depression impacted her dating, & what growing in her first serious relationship has been like. It’s a powerful, relatable story that we can’t wait to share. But first,…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are celebrating 10 years in business together by dedicating the episode to all that they've learned so far! They discuss their journey, the ways their lives have been enriched by one another, things they would change, hard decisions they had to make, and the transition away from pleasing people. Emmalee an…
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We asked for your submissions about dating philosophies or “rules” you used to believe, but don’t anymore, and WOW did you deliver! So much so that we’ll be continuing this topic in future episodes. We’re starting this week with things that Ali & Erica used to believe, but don’t anymore, such as: when you know you know, men should ask women out for…
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are discussing the information overload we all experience on a daily basis and how to move toward more conscious consumption of media, the news, etc. They answer your questions about social media's role in the overwhelm, the "shoulds" and comparison culture, how to create boundaries with consumpti…
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We’re debuting a new segment on the pod this week…Debate Team! Ali & Erica will each be assigned a side of a debate and debate each other. This week, we’re starting with “should you live together before getting engaged?” and “can you be friends with an ex?” It gets especially fun when we have to argue for the side we don’t actually agree with! But …
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Erica & Ali welcome feminist dating coach and debut author Lily Womble to the pod this week! We chat about bringing more joy into your dating life, how to narrow down your search to what Lily calls essences-based preferences, and how to reframe your mindset when you feel like you’re “too much.” Order Lily’s book, Thank You More Please, out June 11t…
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On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee is taking you on her fertility journey. The episode begins with Em's story and all the highs and lows that have come with it thus far. She talks about her recurrent miscarriage diagnosis, her misdiagnosis of PCOS, and her two recent egg retrieval experiences. Then, Jen asks Em all of your questions, such …
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It’s a slightly new Hot Topics format, with both listener questions and a couple AITA situations. First, Ali & Erica debate if a man is the a-hole for not helping his wife carry things in from the car and whether a women is the a-hole for not giving up her comfy coffee shop chair. Then, we answer two listener questions: one listener who is concerne…
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In light of the holiday weekend, today's episode is a re-release of one of Emmalee and Jen's favorites. They want to model what they often share, which is the importance of resting and taking breaks in order to continue to show up as the best versions of themselves. In the episode, Emmalee and Jen talk all about change and why it can be so challeng…
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We asked for feedback and you delivered!! This week, Ali & Erica are going through the biggest takeaways and themes from our podcast survey and previewing what’s to come for the future of the pod. We dig deep on our own opportunities for growth, taking into account both what the listeners shared as well as our own reflections. It’s a vulnerable con…
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On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are myth-busting the idea of unconditional love. They explain the difference between conditional and unconditional love and which kinds of relationships fall into either category. Then, they answer the #1 listener question: can love be unconditional in romantic relationships? Plus, they dive d…
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Back by popular demand, Therapy Jeff (aka Jeff Guenther, LPC) is on the pod answering your burning questions. We dive into topics such as: what does it mean if I attract emotionally available people? How to approach pre-marital counseling? What does it mean to “settle” and how do I know if I am? As always, Jeff’s advice is on point with some laughs…
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Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are teaching you how to build distress tolerance skills. They start the episode by explaining what distress tolerance is and where the concept comes from. Emmalee and Jen discuss the relationship between acceptance of reality and its effect on distress. They answer your questions about discomfort from other pe…
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Erica & Ali are getting deep this week, going through all sorts of questions you can use to connect on first dates, in early dating, or even when already in a relationship. We’re answering our favorite ones plus listing a few you probably shouldn’t ask. Let’s start having some more interesting conversations! In Updates, Erica meets a new man (or is…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen explain the concept of differentiation. This term is woven through the work they do and they're here to explain it in a digestible, relatable way. Emmalee and Jen list some questions to help determine if you’re differentiated and share which of the questions they resonate with most. Then, they discuss how …
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Erica & Ali are diving into the apps with dating coach & app expert Erika Ettin of @alittlenudge. We talk about whether it really matters what opener you send (hint: YES), how to deal with dating app burnout, and why Erika recommends dating NATO (not attached to outcome). But first, Erica is back from a rejuvenating Bachelorette weekend while Ali h…
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Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are thrilled to welcome back one of their favorite guests, Emily Nagoski! Emily is a sex and stress educator, researcher, activist, and an award-winning author, who has a brand new book: Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections! They discuss themes of Come Together by explor…
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Erica & Ali are bouncing around in a roundup episode this week, chatting about recent dating-related news items. First, we have some updates from last week’s ep! Then, we dive into the risks of buying a house with someone you’re not married to (Tom & Ariana, anyone?) and discuss why dating apps have been on a downswing. Erica has a “friendly” updat…
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This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen give you an inside look at their premarital counseling program by sharing specific topics to address before saying "I do!" They start the episode by giving us some marriage stats and sharing the leading causes of divorce. Then they discuss how soon to start having premarital conversations and what to focus on w…
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Ali & Erica are back for another episode about friendship, featuring incredible friendship coach, Danielle Bayard Jackson! Danielle’s upcoming book, Fighting for Our Friendships, is all about the science behind women’s relationships and she brings us SO much knowledge: from deepening your bond with an acquaintance, to the influence our friends have…
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In this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen zoom in on a specific theory in therapy called Narrative Therapy! They start the episode off by explaining what Narrative Therapy looks like and its four principles. Then Em and Jen share how to identify the narratives we each hold about ourselves, where they come from, how the narratives can …
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Ali & Erica have a first date guide for you this week! We’re breaking down everything you need to know: getting from dating app convo to date, pre-date texting guidelines, first date arrival logistics, conversation tips to avoid and awkwardness, and so much more. In Updates, Erica finds out why people call LA “Flake City” as she prepares for multip…
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Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are confronting confrontation and talking all about how to have hard conversations. They start the episode off by sharing tangible tips to teach yourself that you deserve to take up space in your relationships. Em and Jen then answer listener questions about worrying what the outcome of a conflict/confrontatio…
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Have you ever gotten the ick from a match or a date? Ali & Erica have rounded up all sorts of icks from the listeners and we’re debating them on this week’s episode. It’s a fun and silly one this week! In Updates, Ali goes on a thoughtful fourth date with Mr. Worldwide. Meanwhile, Erica is excited to be back in LA for a while, making swiping easier…
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On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen explore the topic of feeling stuck and share their insights on how to move forward! They begin the episode by listing their favorite mantras for when you're feeling stuck or resistant to change. They answer your questions about how to become unstuck, addressing the fear of failure when it comes to…
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Have you ever considered picking up and moving to a new city? Julia Mazur, host of the Pretty Much Done podcast, did just that. Having spent her whole life in Los Angeles, she moved to Austin after a break up and has never been happier. And, in addition, to her move, we get into a great discussion about hyper-independence and how it can affect rela…
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On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of their amazing colleagues and friends, Alexander Stefanini, LPC, owner of Arrive Therapy, an all-LGBTQ+ counseling practice that is trans and queer-focused. The episode begins with Alexander sharing his story of growing up transgender and his experience transitioning. Then, Emm…
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Ali & Erica are back with questions submitted by you, the listeners! We start with the age-old question: should you give a ghost a second chance? Then, a listener has a crush at work - how can she get this man on a date? Or should she give up? And lastly, we advise a listener who is about to visit a long-distance situationship. But first, Ali has q…
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